York City boss Nigel Worthington on 'hard decisions' after switching keepers in 2-2 draw with Cambridge United

York City boss Nigel Worthington on 'hard decisions' after switching keepers in 2-2 draw with Cambridge United

York City start their comeback when Jake Hyde slides in to bag the opener against Cambridge

Striker Jake Hyde pulls a goal back for York City in their 2-2 draw with Cambridge United

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NIGEL WORTHINGTON declared he was not afraid to take “hard decisions” after sacrificing goalkeeper Jason Mooney at half-time in York City’s 2-2 draw with Cambridge United in Sky Bet League Two.

The Minstermen manager turned to Michael Ingham at the interval after believing his summer recruit from Tranmere Rovers got more and more “nervous” as the first half went on at Bootham Crescent.

Mooney, who has played only a handful of professional matches, was tense and bullied under the high ball and Worthington said: “It was straight-forward. I had to make a change."

Asked whether he still had confidence in Mooney, Worthington added: “He’s there. When you are in this game, it is a hard game. He is one of two keepers so when the opportunity comes again he has got to go and take it.

“He has had the opportunity, it hasn’t worked for him (against Cambridge). Big people in the game bounce back. That’s what the game is about. It’s about strong characters. If you are weak in this game, you get out. It’s not a weak minded person’s game.”

He added: “Part of my job is making decisions and I am not afraid to make decisions if I think it is right for the team. I thought he looked very nervous. There is a lot of big players there – he is big himself – and he’s really got to believe in himself.

“He’s a good keeper, there is no doubt about that, but you have to make it happen. As the first half went on, I thought the more nervous he became.

“At 2-0 down, you think ‘all to gain, nothing to lose, make a change, try and keep a clean sheet and try and get back on level terms to go and win it’.

“They won’t get any sympathy off me and I am talking in general - all players . If they are not in the team, it isn’t my fault.

“It’s their own situation. I will pick the 11 I think is right for each game. I am sure I will get it wrong sometimes but I won’t be afraid to make decisions."

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11:05pm Tue 19 Aug 14

dazthecat says...

Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.
Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players. dazthecat
  • Score: 27

11:27pm Tue 19 Aug 14

yorko66 says...

I seem to remember the same happened to Andy Warrington constantly heckled he left and played in the league at a good level while we played in the conference there is a lesson to be learned. The ones calling for Ingham will be the same ones that wanted him out last season. I am an Ingham fan so it was great for let's please not throw Mooney under the bus as he will be needed before the season is finished
I seem to remember the same happened to Andy Warrington constantly heckled he left and played in the league at a good level while we played in the conference there is a lesson to be learned. The ones calling for Ingham will be the same ones that wanted him out last season. I am an Ingham fan so it was great for let's please not throw Mooney under the bus as he will be needed before the season is finished yorko66
  • Score: 36

11:55pm Tue 19 Aug 14

Some old bloke says...

yorko66 wrote:
I seem to remember the same happened to Andy Warrington constantly heckled he left and played in the league at a good level while we played in the conference there is a lesson to be learned. The ones calling for Ingham will be the same ones that wanted him out last season. I am an Ingham fan so it was great for let's please not throw Mooney under the bus as he will be needed before the season is finished
Very well put
[quote][p][bold]yorko66[/bold] wrote: I seem to remember the same happened to Andy Warrington constantly heckled he left and played in the league at a good level while we played in the conference there is a lesson to be learned. The ones calling for Ingham will be the same ones that wanted him out last season. I am an Ingham fan so it was great for let's please not throw Mooney under the bus as he will be needed before the season is finished[/p][/quote]Very well put Some old bloke
  • Score: 20

8:07am Wed 20 Aug 14

FortessBC says...

A brave move by Nigel but the right one. Mooney looked increasingly unsure and edgy as the half went on and I actually thought the incident with their striker where he was booked was a penalty to Cambridge. The stats say we had 23 shots last night but only 9 on target so to come away with a 2-2 draw after being 2-0 down was a good effort. But when oh when will our luck turn! the slightest touch on some of those crosses and we could have scored more. Got very edgy in the last 4 minutes as we seemed to get a bit sloppy again and when the ref gave a free kick with seconds left I held my breath. Never a dull moment at BC!
A brave move by Nigel but the right one. Mooney looked increasingly unsure and edgy as the half went on and I actually thought the incident with their striker where he was booked was a penalty to Cambridge. The stats say we had 23 shots last night but only 9 on target so to come away with a 2-2 draw after being 2-0 down was a good effort. But when oh when will our luck turn! the slightest touch on some of those crosses and we could have scored more. Got very edgy in the last 4 minutes as we seemed to get a bit sloppy again and when the ref gave a free kick with seconds left I held my breath. Never a dull moment at BC! FortessBC
  • Score: 10

8:10am Wed 20 Aug 14

big boy york says...

its got to be something about height n nerves, peter crouch is just about the same height as mooney n he's crap in the air just gotta see the lack of headed goals from him, mooney will get his chance again before the seasons out n if he cant take it would possibly look to move him on next season
its got to be something about height n nerves, peter crouch is just about the same height as mooney n he's crap in the air just gotta see the lack of headed goals from him, mooney will get his chance again before the seasons out n if he cant take it would possibly look to move him on next season big boy york
  • Score: -8

8:16am Wed 20 Aug 14

yorkandproud says...

dazthecat wrote:
Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.
Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.
[quote][p][bold]dazthecat[/bold] wrote: Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.[/p][/quote]Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me. yorkandproud
  • Score: 14

8:42am Wed 20 Aug 14

T.R.M1974 says...

yorkandproud wrote:
dazthecat wrote:
Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.
Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.
I honestly think that if Tom Elliott had stayed on the pitch it would of been irrelevant who stayed on or went off, the lad gave our center halves a torrid time. Everyone is focused on Mooney but what happened to Mcombe? He was well off the pace last night and Keef wasn't much better, got to say the second half was hell of a performance though, but we did let them back in the game for the last 5 minutes after all that pressure and could of blown it. It was a good job Inghams miss kick was not closer to his goal!
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazthecat[/bold] wrote: Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.[/p][/quote]Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.[/p][/quote]I honestly think that if Tom Elliott had stayed on the pitch it would of been irrelevant who stayed on or went off, the lad gave our center halves a torrid time. Everyone is focused on Mooney but what happened to Mcombe? He was well off the pace last night and Keef wasn't much better, got to say the second half was hell of a performance though, but we did let them back in the game for the last 5 minutes after all that pressure and could of blown it. It was a good job Inghams miss kick was not closer to his goal! T.R.M1974
  • Score: 9

8:44am Wed 20 Aug 14

PhilR@Strike says...

Mind good effort from the Team to come back to 2-2
:)
Mind good effort from the Team to come back to 2-2 :) PhilR@Strike
  • Score: 3

8:52am Wed 20 Aug 14

dazthecat says...

yorkandproud wrote:
dazthecat wrote:
Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.
Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.
I agree he needed to come off, his head had gone. But he's a young lad in keeper terms with little first team experience and in that situation it would be nice to see fans giving him encouragement. Shouting for Ingham was clearly only going to make the situation worse. As it happened Ingham wasn't all that convincing with the little he had to do so who they gonna shout for next week?
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazthecat[/bold] wrote: Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.[/p][/quote]Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.[/p][/quote]I agree he needed to come off, his head had gone. But he's a young lad in keeper terms with little first team experience and in that situation it would be nice to see fans giving him encouragement. Shouting for Ingham was clearly only going to make the situation worse. As it happened Ingham wasn't all that convincing with the little he had to do so who they gonna shout for next week? dazthecat
  • Score: 9

9:14am Wed 20 Aug 14

sixtyfourfive says...

Michael Ingham has in my view rarely let us down and is not far off the best number of clean sheets for a City keeper. Let us not also forget that around the turn of the year at the start of our great run to the play offs he kept 3 clean sheets which to some extent was the catalyst to our change in fortunes He at the time was very unlucky to be left out for Pope. Although some on here like to dismiss his abilities he must still have the manager's confidence to have given him a new contract.
Michael Ingham has in my view rarely let us down and is not far off the best number of clean sheets for a City keeper. Let us not also forget that around the turn of the year at the start of our great run to the play offs he kept 3 clean sheets which to some extent was the catalyst to our change in fortunes He at the time was very unlucky to be left out for Pope. Although some on here like to dismiss his abilities he must still have the manager's confidence to have given him a new contract. sixtyfourfive
  • Score: 15

9:21am Wed 20 Aug 14

RooBeck says...

Our second-half performance was both entertaining and exciting and gives you hope that we will soon settle down into one of L2's best sides. In this period, in terms of possession and movement, we should have beaten Cambridge but that final touch just eluded us! Our over-lapping, attacking wing play was especially good and once again, Meikle, Straker and Coulson stood out and Wes Fletcher is looking sharper and is a real threat up front. Though Mooney was well off his game, (and the central defenders un-characteristicall
y un-certain at times), it was a still a big decision to take him off and it suggests that there may be a little bit more to it and possibly his training might have been suffering too? NW talked to Radio York after the match about him and others in the same breath as saying, if you fail to prepare, then, you prepare to fail! A bit hard-hitting! Michael Ingham must now seize this opportunity and try and show the form that we all know he is capable of achieving, albeit he is still "ring-rusty" and other than part appearances in pre-season friendlies, he hasn't had a competitive match since Northampton away in January and when the side was completely different to the current starting XI. Got to hit the deck running on Saturday, Michael!! COYR.
Our second-half performance was both entertaining and exciting and gives you hope that we will soon settle down into one of L2's best sides. In this period, in terms of possession and movement, we should have beaten Cambridge but that final touch just eluded us! Our over-lapping, attacking wing play was especially good and once again, Meikle, Straker and Coulson stood out and Wes Fletcher is looking sharper and is a real threat up front. Though Mooney was well off his game, (and the central defenders un-characteristicall y un-certain at times), it was a still a big decision to take him off and it suggests that there may be a little bit more to it and possibly his training might have been suffering too? NW talked to Radio York after the match about him and others in the same breath as saying, if you fail to prepare, then, you prepare to fail! A bit hard-hitting! Michael Ingham must now seize this opportunity and try and show the form that we all know he is capable of achieving, albeit he is still "ring-rusty" and other than part appearances in pre-season friendlies, he hasn't had a competitive match since Northampton away in January and when the side was completely different to the current starting XI. Got to hit the deck running on Saturday, Michael!! COYR. RooBeck
  • Score: 5

9:45am Wed 20 Aug 14

bill bailey says...

I said on here commenting after the Northampton game, Mooney should be dropped and have some intensive coaching, its no good beating around the bush he isn't up to it and we havn't got time wait until he is , after seeing him in the first three games I saw he had flaws, 1, Little or no control of his area, 2 slow in getting down to ground shots. 3 he's slow coming out to high balls, all three of those are the basic attributes of a good keeper, judgement is everything, when to come what do I do if I do come, If I was NW I would either send him out on loan or transfer him. Am I too forthright ? No i'm a realist , What im saying about Mooney applies to all players. NW said it in a different way he said , They wont get any sympathy from me its their situation I will pick the best 11. At the end of the day that's the way it should be,
I said on here commenting after the Northampton game, Mooney should be dropped and have some intensive coaching, its no good beating around the bush he isn't up to it and we havn't got time wait until he is , after seeing him in the first three games I saw he had flaws, 1, Little or no control of his area, 2 slow in getting down to ground shots. 3 he's slow coming out to high balls, all three of those are the basic attributes of a good keeper, judgement is everything, when to come what do I do if I do come, If I was NW I would either send him out on loan or transfer him. Am I too forthright ? No i'm a realist , What im saying about Mooney applies to all players. NW said it in a different way he said , They wont get any sympathy from me its their situation I will pick the best 11. At the end of the day that's the way it should be, bill bailey
  • Score: 6

10:19am Wed 20 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

Good luck to the People around Jason Mooney. I hope he isn't too affected by last night's events and I'm sure he will bounce back given the right support and encouragement.

I'm sure Nigel Worthington still has confidence in his undoubted ability. Mooney came in to the game fairly late in comparison to most proffesional players. He has worked hard to get where he is and is City's goalkeeper not by accident but because he has earned the chance.

I remember former manager Bill McEwan taking off a young goalkeeper in one particular game after only 20 minutes or so. A few days later the dejected keeper was loaned out to Wakefield Emley FC - playing many leagues down the football pyramid. The keeper was non other than David Stockdale.

Stockdale bounced back in magnificent style; about 5 years later Stockdale was in the England squad and playing in the premier league. So here is an example of triumphing other adversity in footballing terms and proving doubters the wrong.

Now is the time to get behind the boy Mooney and encourage him so he can achive great things in the game because he certainly has the potential. Good luck Mooney you can do it too - just believe in yourself juyst like Stockdale did.
Good luck to the People around Jason Mooney. I hope he isn't too affected by last night's events and I'm sure he will bounce back given the right support and encouragement. I'm sure Nigel Worthington still has confidence in his undoubted ability. Mooney came in to the game fairly late in comparison to most proffesional players. He has worked hard to get where he is and is City's goalkeeper not by accident but because he has earned the chance. I remember former manager Bill McEwan taking off a young goalkeeper in one particular game after only 20 minutes or so. A few days later the dejected keeper was loaned out to Wakefield Emley FC - playing many leagues down the football pyramid. The keeper was non other than David Stockdale. Stockdale bounced back in magnificent style; about 5 years later Stockdale was in the England squad and playing in the premier league. So here is an example of triumphing other adversity in footballing terms and proving doubters the wrong. Now is the time to get behind the boy Mooney and encourage him so he can achive great things in the game because he certainly has the potential. Good luck Mooney you can do it too - just believe in yourself juyst like Stockdale did. andyjon12
  • Score: 24

10:21am Wed 20 Aug 14

joejamestom says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
yorkandproud wrote:
dazthecat wrote:
Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.
Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.
I honestly think that if Tom Elliott had stayed on the pitch it would of been irrelevant who stayed on or went off, the lad gave our center halves a torrid time. Everyone is focused on Mooney but what happened to Mcombe? He was well off the pace last night and Keef wasn't much better, got to say the second half was hell of a performance though, but we did let them back in the game for the last 5 minutes after all that pressure and could of blown it. It was a good job Inghams miss kick was not closer to his goal!
An astute comment Mr Money did us quite a favour subbing off Elliott as neither CB coped well with him if they had more runners from mid field we would have had much more trouble. Mooney for most of us should have been rested for this game as being replaced at half time has done an inexperienced keeper little good. We lacked a mobile CB would not Parslow been ok? though Winfield did well. Personally I cheered loudly for Ingy as I feel he has not had a fair deal from NW.
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazthecat[/bold] wrote: Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.[/p][/quote]Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.[/p][/quote]I honestly think that if Tom Elliott had stayed on the pitch it would of been irrelevant who stayed on or went off, the lad gave our center halves a torrid time. Everyone is focused on Mooney but what happened to Mcombe? He was well off the pace last night and Keef wasn't much better, got to say the second half was hell of a performance though, but we did let them back in the game for the last 5 minutes after all that pressure and could of blown it. It was a good job Inghams miss kick was not closer to his goal![/p][/quote]An astute comment Mr Money did us quite a favour subbing off Elliott as neither CB coped well with him if they had more runners from mid field we would have had much more trouble. Mooney for most of us should have been rested for this game as being replaced at half time has done an inexperienced keeper little good. We lacked a mobile CB would not Parslow been ok? though Winfield did well. Personally I cheered loudly for Ingy as I feel he has not had a fair deal from NW. joejamestom
  • Score: 0

10:26am Wed 20 Aug 14

ian923 says...

I thought the lads battled well to achieve a draw from 2-0 down and should have won the game. Enough has been said about Mooney but not much about Wes Fletcher who showed some subtle touches and looked dangerous when he came on. It was so good to see him back and his close control under pressure was excellent. He is also a good penalty taker and a big boost to the team as will Carson be on his eventual return. Certainly no one in the crowd could complain about the entertainment value of last nights game and we played some good football at times with our age old problem of not taking our chances. Now Wes is back that should improve and Hyde showed promise up front also. Someone( I think it was Hyde, did a Bowman i.e. failed to make contact from 2 yards out!) Bowman , by the way, never seems to learn and was sent off on Saturday.
I thought the lads battled well to achieve a draw from 2-0 down and should have won the game. Enough has been said about Mooney but not much about Wes Fletcher who showed some subtle touches and looked dangerous when he came on. It was so good to see him back and his close control under pressure was excellent. He is also a good penalty taker and a big boost to the team as will Carson be on his eventual return. Certainly no one in the crowd could complain about the entertainment value of last nights game and we played some good football at times with our age old problem of not taking our chances. Now Wes is back that should improve and Hyde showed promise up front also. Someone( I think it was Hyde, did a Bowman i.e. failed to make contact from 2 yards out!) Bowman , by the way, never seems to learn and was sent off on Saturday. ian923
  • Score: 1

10:52am Wed 20 Aug 14

OLD - HEAD says...

Last night was the best I have seen York City play in ages, certainly the best we have played this season. We should have beaten a decent Cambridge United team out of sight. The Jason Mooney situation is infortunate, but most of the fans that I talk to were unsure about him. He is a still a young lad and he will no doubt get another chance. Somerfield played like a proper mid-fielder and he made a big difference last night. For entertainment value last nights game must rate 10/10. We just need Hyde and Fletcher fully fit, Coulson wide right, Straker wide left - "Then watch us go".
Last night was the best I have seen York City play in ages, certainly the best we have played this season. We should have beaten a decent Cambridge United team out of sight. The Jason Mooney situation is infortunate, but most of the fans that I talk to were unsure about him. He is a still a young lad and he will no doubt get another chance. Somerfield played like a proper mid-fielder and he made a big difference last night. For entertainment value last nights game must rate 10/10. We just need Hyde and Fletcher fully fit, Coulson wide right, Straker wide left - "Then watch us go". OLD - HEAD
  • Score: 18

11:06am Wed 20 Aug 14

dadster says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
Last night was the best I have seen York City play in ages, certainly the best we have played this season. We should have beaten a decent Cambridge United team out of sight. The Jason Mooney situation is infortunate, but most of the fans that I talk to were unsure about him. He is a still a young lad and he will no doubt get another chance. Somerfield played like a proper mid-fielder and he made a big difference last night. For entertainment value last nights game must rate 10/10. We just need Hyde and Fletcher fully fit, Coulson wide right, Straker wide left - "Then watch us go".
I assume you mean from an attacking perspective as for long periods in the first half we were really poor defensively, bordering on shambolic and Cambridge could have scored 4 in the first half. They had a perfectly good penalty appeal turned down IMO and Mooney made a good save with his legs when their striker probably should have scored.

Agree with you regards the front 2 and wide players and I would go with Fletcher from the start at Exeter with Coulson wide right. Fletcher could then be brought off after 60mins if he's tiring and replaced with Miekle whose extra pace down the flanks with Coulson moving inside could be just the solution against a tiring Exeter defence.

Big game on Sat as we really need 3 points to kick-start the season. A clean sheet would also be extremely welcome from a confidence perspective.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: Last night was the best I have seen York City play in ages, certainly the best we have played this season. We should have beaten a decent Cambridge United team out of sight. The Jason Mooney situation is infortunate, but most of the fans that I talk to were unsure about him. He is a still a young lad and he will no doubt get another chance. Somerfield played like a proper mid-fielder and he made a big difference last night. For entertainment value last nights game must rate 10/10. We just need Hyde and Fletcher fully fit, Coulson wide right, Straker wide left - "Then watch us go".[/p][/quote]I assume you mean from an attacking perspective as for long periods in the first half we were really poor defensively, bordering on shambolic and Cambridge could have scored 4 in the first half. They had a perfectly good penalty appeal turned down IMO and Mooney made a good save with his legs when their striker probably should have scored. Agree with you regards the front 2 and wide players and I would go with Fletcher from the start at Exeter with Coulson wide right. Fletcher could then be brought off after 60mins if he's tiring and replaced with Miekle whose extra pace down the flanks with Coulson moving inside could be just the solution against a tiring Exeter defence. Big game on Sat as we really need 3 points to kick-start the season. A clean sheet would also be extremely welcome from a confidence perspective. dadster
  • Score: 3

11:34am Wed 20 Aug 14

openallhours says...

yorkandproud wrote:
dazthecat wrote:
Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.
Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.
Totally disagree. Mooney made a great one on one save and is still finding his feet. Ingham had hardly anything to do in the 2nd half (although when he did make a save he does what he always does and hoofs the ball straight back to the opposition). Has anybody seen Pope's howler from last night?
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dazthecat[/bold] wrote: Bet the idiots in the longhurst shouting for Ingham didn't do his nerves any good. Nice of fans to stick by their players.[/p][/quote]Sorry Daz, I can't agree. If Mooney was in goal in the second half, we would probably have lost. He was having a nightmare. As NW said. "It was straight forward, I had to make a change". Just because he is a keeper, the decision is no different IMO. Also I can't agree with the fans calling for Ingham. It was just the odd fan voicing their opinion, that's all . You pays your money, and it gives you an opinion if you ask me.[/p][/quote]Totally disagree. Mooney made a great one on one save and is still finding his feet. Ingham had hardly anything to do in the 2nd half (although when he did make a save he does what he always does and hoofs the ball straight back to the opposition). Has anybody seen Pope's howler from last night? openallhours
  • Score: -5

1:32pm Wed 20 Aug 14

North Lincs Minsterman says...

Well I suppose the jury is no longer out on Jason Mooney but I can't help thinking about confidence-boosting following a fall. In horse riding the common practice is to get straight back on! Should a NW be a psychologist and pick Mooney for the away game at Exeter? He certainly wouldn't if it was a home match next.

On the replacement last night, not only did Mooney make at least two errors from balls he should have claimed easily but he also spread uncertainty into the back four who could not trust him with long balls into the box. McCombe's replacement was effective, he wasn't dealing with Elliot very well and Winfield made a better job of it; he is certainly not one for taking prisoners!

On a positive note, both full backs were very good and I gave Femi man-of-the-match. Summerfield was promising though some of his more "adventurous" passes didn't come off. Both Hyde and Fletcher are making rapid progress towards being fully match fit; I have high hopes for three points at Exter.
Well I suppose the jury is no longer out on Jason Mooney but I can't help thinking about confidence-boosting following a fall. In horse riding the common practice is to get straight back on! Should a NW be a psychologist and pick Mooney for the away game at Exeter? He certainly wouldn't if it was a home match next. On the replacement last night, not only did Mooney make at least two errors from balls he should have claimed easily but he also spread uncertainty into the back four who could not trust him with long balls into the box. McCombe's replacement was effective, he wasn't dealing with Elliot very well and Winfield made a better job of it; he is certainly not one for taking prisoners! On a positive note, both full backs were very good and I gave Femi man-of-the-match. Summerfield was promising though some of his more "adventurous" passes didn't come off. Both Hyde and Fletcher are making rapid progress towards being fully match fit; I have high hopes for three points at Exter. North Lincs Minsterman
  • Score: 4

1:41pm Wed 20 Aug 14

23rdApril1966 says...

Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely.
At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed.
On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night.
But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least.
In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon?
On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses.
As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it.
Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping!
Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely. At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed. On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night. But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least. In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon? On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses. As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it. Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping! 23rdApril1966
  • Score: 9

2:05pm Wed 20 Aug 14

dadster says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely.
At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed.
On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night.
But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least.
In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon?
On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses.
As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it.
Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping!
Excellent post and agree with almost everything you've said although I'm not sure we could have scored 8 in the first half!

Like you've said and some others despite the results we are far better than this time last season and I too feel that we are going to give someone a real hiding soon. Hopefully that will be at Exeter.

If we can just sort out the keeper situation then we can be a real force this season injuries permitting.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely. At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed. On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night. But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least. In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon? On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses. As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it. Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping![/p][/quote]Excellent post and agree with almost everything you've said although I'm not sure we could have scored 8 in the first half! Like you've said and some others despite the results we are far better than this time last season and I too feel that we are going to give someone a real hiding soon. Hopefully that will be at Exeter. If we can just sort out the keeper situation then we can be a real force this season injuries permitting. dadster
  • Score: 1

2:51pm Wed 20 Aug 14

bill bailey says...

dadster wrote:
23rdApril1966 wrote:
Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely.
At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed.
On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night.
But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least.
In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon?
On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses.
As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it.
Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping!
Excellent post and agree with almost everything you've said although I'm not sure we could have scored 8 in the first half!

Like you've said and some others despite the results we are far better than this time last season and I too feel that we are going to give someone a real hiding soon. Hopefully that will be at Exeter.

If we can just sort out the keeper situation then we can be a real force this season injuries permitting.
Yes I agree a post that give all food for thought , As I said in my post for Mooney's confidence ( I hope makes good I don't like knocking players) he should be loaned out I cant see the lad making it here. With a limited squad (Money determines that) we just cant have players who clearly are not up to standard on the books.
[quote][p][bold]dadster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely. At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed. On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night. But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least. In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon? On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses. As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it. Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping![/p][/quote]Excellent post and agree with almost everything you've said although I'm not sure we could have scored 8 in the first half! Like you've said and some others despite the results we are far better than this time last season and I too feel that we are going to give someone a real hiding soon. Hopefully that will be at Exeter. If we can just sort out the keeper situation then we can be a real force this season injuries permitting.[/p][/quote]Yes I agree a post that give all food for thought , As I said in my post for Mooney's confidence ( I hope makes good I don't like knocking players) he should be loaned out I cant see the lad making it here. With a limited squad (Money determines that) we just cant have players who clearly are not up to standard on the books. bill bailey
  • Score: -1

3:45pm Wed 20 Aug 14

Fat Harry says...

The manager will select what he believes are the best 11 for the job on any given day.

If he gets it wrong or a player lets him down, he has three chances to put it right by making a susbstitution. That applies to all 11 players, be they centre-forward or centre-half, winger or goalkeeper.

The best thing we can do to help Mooney get over it is stop harping on about it and back him 100% when he gets his next chance, just as we should for every player who pulls on a City shirt.

The rest is up to him, in training and practice/reserve games.
The manager will select what he believes are the best 11 for the job on any given day. If he gets it wrong or a player lets him down, he has three chances to put it right by making a susbstitution. That applies to all 11 players, be they centre-forward or centre-half, winger or goalkeeper. The best thing we can do to help Mooney get over it is stop harping on about it and back him 100% when he gets his next chance, just as we should for every player who pulls on a City shirt. The rest is up to him, in training and practice/reserve games. Fat Harry
  • Score: 7

3:46pm Wed 20 Aug 14

PositiveFootball says...

Could only make the second half, but it was well worth the effort. Excellent entertainment, City have a good blend of exciting players and players that get stuck in when it matters. Along with the great atmosphere someone's in for a whooping soon!
Could only make the second half, but it was well worth the effort. Excellent entertainment, City have a good blend of exciting players and players that get stuck in when it matters. Along with the great atmosphere someone's in for a whooping soon! PositiveFootball
  • Score: 6

3:53pm Wed 20 Aug 14

pip007 says...

"They were good. They were very good!" - Richard Money talking about York City.
"They were good. They were very good!" - Richard Money talking about York City. pip007
  • Score: 14

6:20pm Wed 20 Aug 14

dazthecat says...

23rdApril1966 wrote:
Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely.
At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed.
On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night.
But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least.
In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon?
On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses.
As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it.
Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping!
Good point regarding Summerfield. The reason so many went to their players is because he's always looking to create something which is why he's such an important signing. I could see last night why everybody raves about his and Penn's combination at Cheltenham. They will dominate this league if they both stay fit as they did last night particularly in 2nd half. Couple that with 2 exciting wingers and 3 very talented forwards in Coulson, Hyde and Fletcher and that's the reason I'm so excited about what we can do this season.
[quote][p][bold]23rdApril1966[/bold] wrote: Must be a long time since a game divided opinions quite so acutely. At HT I texted a Plymouth mate of mine to say that we could be 8-4 up but were 2-1 down and that was largely due to another keeper howler. I then spoke to somebody who thought the first 40 mins were the worst he had seen in 7 years. So very odd indeed. On the way to the match I mused just how good we'd be feeling if we had Pope behind this squad.....ironic that by all accounts he himself dropped a clanger last night. But what can't be in doubt is that we now have a major issue with the keeper position. Last year NW tried Kettings, the fella from Wolves who dropped the clanger at Bury and then Pope, so it is hard not to conclude that he has reservations about Ingham. Season to date let's be honest Mooney has had a mare, I maintain that he should have done better with Tranmere's goal, his lining up of the wall against the Cobblers was just plain wrong and so it was a real surprise to me that he was picked last night. Within 5 mins I think all in the crowd could see that his confidence was shot. From the Main Stand I didn't hear any crowd calling of him, more a hushed silence and sharp intake of breath whenever he was called into action. His half time replacement, whilst never nice for a keeper, was simply necessary. I just don't think the manager had a choice as it seemed unlikely that we' d not concede again had he stayed on. As it happened Ingham kept a clean sheet, had little to do but still looked shaky on two occasions at least. In an ideal world Mooney would have a spell in ther reserves but in this Premier League dominated world then we have no such luxury so surely he needs to go out to a local non league club to get some match time in order to regain his confidence. No right minded supporter would wish him I'll but right now you'd be hard pressed to seeing him in the first team anytime soon? On another issue was there ever a game in which a player - Summerfield - showed such a number of excellent passes with his vision allied to such a number of woeful passes to the opposition? On balance I will take it as it is surely easier to eradicate the bad ball than teach somebody the vision and touch that he clearly possesses. As I said at the top this really was a match of mixed messages! But despite 4 winless games I've left each game happy with the performance if not the result.....23 shots last night, that's hardly a typical City effort is it. Bring on the Grecians!! My friend BH12Man maintains somebody soon is going to be on the end of a good hiding, here's hoping![/p][/quote]Good point regarding Summerfield. The reason so many went to their players is because he's always looking to create something which is why he's such an important signing. I could see last night why everybody raves about his and Penn's combination at Cheltenham. They will dominate this league if they both stay fit as they did last night particularly in 2nd half. Couple that with 2 exciting wingers and 3 very talented forwards in Coulson, Hyde and Fletcher and that's the reason I'm so excited about what we can do this season. dazthecat
  • Score: 7

11:09am Thu 21 Aug 14

ian923 says...

Looks like Neil Warnock going to Huddersfield as manager-thank God for that!
Looks like Neil Warnock going to Huddersfield as manager-thank God for that! ian923
  • Score: 0

11:28am Thu 21 Aug 14

North Lincs Minsterman says...

My son's comment after this game was that it was like our match agianst Chesterfield away last season only the roles were reversed. Chesterfield battered us but found themselves 0-2 down but then fought back for a 2-2 draw.

And look where they ended up!

Scunthorpe couldn't put teams away last season ending up as the divisions draw specialists.

And look where they ended up!
My son's comment after this game was that it was like our match agianst Chesterfield away last season only the roles were reversed. Chesterfield battered us but found themselves 0-2 down but then fought back for a 2-2 draw. And look where they ended up! Scunthorpe couldn't put teams away last season ending up as the divisions draw specialists. And look where they ended up! North Lincs Minsterman
  • Score: 6

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