Smoke flare amnesty at Bootham Crescent

Smoke flare

Smoke flare

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AN amnesty on flares and smoke grenades will be held by North Yorkshire Police this weekend.

Football liaison officers will be at Bootham Crescent on Saturday, collecting pyrotechnic devices ahead of the match against Sheffield Wednesday.

Sergeant Colin Sutherland said: “We’ve noticed discussion on social media about the difference between a smoke grenade and a flare or firework.

"The general view of supporters appears to be that smoke grenades are a ‘bit of fun’ whereas there is a general acceptance that the use of flares in a stadium environment is dangerous. However, smoke grenades can also be dangerous and to set them off in a public place is illegal.”

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11:22am Fri 11 Jul 14

The Legend Of Keith says...

Perhaps the Press or NYP could report how many smoke grenade, flares or fireworks have been set off by home supporters in Bootham Cresent in the last 20 years?

The last time I remember a firework being set off would be when Huddersfield Town fans visited Bootham Cresent during the 1994/95 season when they kindly put their own striker off scoring.

On the face of it, they are looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist... regardless of what "chatter" may have been picked up on social media. Still, looks good on paper and must tick some pro-activity boxes.
Perhaps the Press or NYP could report how many smoke grenade, flares or fireworks have been set off by home supporters in Bootham Cresent in the last 20 years? The last time I remember a firework being set off would be when Huddersfield Town fans visited Bootham Cresent during the 1994/95 season when they kindly put their own striker off scoring. On the face of it, they are looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist... regardless of what "chatter" may have been picked up on social media. Still, looks good on paper and must tick some pro-activity boxes. The Legend Of Keith
  • Score: 11

12:25pm Fri 11 Jul 14

YorkCityLuke says...

The Legend Of Keith wrote:
Perhaps the Press or NYP could report how many smoke grenade, flares or fireworks have been set off by home supporters in Bootham Cresent in the last 20 years?

The last time I remember a firework being set off would be when Huddersfield Town fans visited Bootham Cresent during the 1994/95 season when they kindly put their own striker off scoring.

On the face of it, they are looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist... regardless of what "chatter" may have been picked up on social media. Still, looks good on paper and must tick some pro-activity boxes.
And I wonder how much extra money the club is being extorted out of for the 'added police presence'.
[quote][p][bold]The Legend Of Keith[/bold] wrote: Perhaps the Press or NYP could report how many smoke grenade, flares or fireworks have been set off by home supporters in Bootham Cresent in the last 20 years? The last time I remember a firework being set off would be when Huddersfield Town fans visited Bootham Cresent during the 1994/95 season when they kindly put their own striker off scoring. On the face of it, they are looking to solve a problem that doesn't exist... regardless of what "chatter" may have been picked up on social media. Still, looks good on paper and must tick some pro-activity boxes.[/p][/quote]And I wonder how much extra money the club is being extorted out of for the 'added police presence'. YorkCityLuke
  • Score: 3

12:35pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Gary_Mills_Haircut says...

Short memories some of you!

There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences.

Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.
Short memories some of you! There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences. Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step. Gary_Mills_Haircut
  • Score: -2

12:42pm Fri 11 Jul 14

dbrs88 says...

Gary_Mills_Haircut wrote:
Short memories some of you!

There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences.

Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.
No Rose tinted glasses here. I agreed with the sentiment of encouraging young fan to attend games safely but read the previous comments carefully.. when was the last time home fans set of flares in the longhurst?? Yeah maybe the hooligans who only attend the away games have set these of at Wembley etc. but how is that amnesty gunna stop that when its not at BC... IMO this only brings it into the mind of young fans who see it as a way to rebel against the system...
[quote][p][bold]Gary_Mills_Haircut[/bold] wrote: Short memories some of you! There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences. Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.[/p][/quote]No Rose tinted glasses here. I agreed with the sentiment of encouraging young fan to attend games safely but read the previous comments carefully.. when was the last time home fans set of flares in the longhurst?? Yeah maybe the hooligans who only attend the away games have set these of at Wembley etc. but how is that amnesty gunna stop that when its not at BC... IMO this only brings it into the mind of young fans who see it as a way to rebel against the system... dbrs88
  • Score: 6

2:55pm Fri 11 Jul 14

Edsoni says...

I find it strange that people are setting themselves against an approach that has supporter safety at its heart.
True we don't have many instances at home games although I can remember one match where a rocket crossed the pitch into supporters on the opposite side. Do we propose to wait until an injury before taking action?
I doubt if this amnesty will result in many hand ins but if it helps the idiotic, irresponsible or naive at away games to think twice; then it will have served a purpose.
I can remember instances at Rotherham and then Bolton as well as Fleetwood to go with those already mentioned.
I'm not a slave to those who want to limit personal responsibility but in the case of missiles, the person throwing is usually the least likely to suffer the horrific consequences. Burns and skin grafts are not nice.
If we want a good atmosphere encourage the drummers, musicians ,chanters and flag wavers - flares apart from obscuring visibility add nothing but risk.
I find it strange that people are setting themselves against an approach that has supporter safety at its heart. True we don't have many instances at home games although I can remember one match where a rocket crossed the pitch into supporters on the opposite side. Do we propose to wait until an injury before taking action? I doubt if this amnesty will result in many hand ins but if it helps the idiotic, irresponsible or naive at away games to think twice; then it will have served a purpose. I can remember instances at Rotherham and then Bolton as well as Fleetwood to go with those already mentioned. I'm not a slave to those who want to limit personal responsibility but in the case of missiles, the person throwing is usually the least likely to suffer the horrific consequences. Burns and skin grafts are not nice. If we want a good atmosphere encourage the drummers, musicians ,chanters and flag wavers - flares apart from obscuring visibility add nothing but risk. Edsoni
  • Score: 5

4:02pm Fri 11 Jul 14

The Legend Of Keith says...

Gary_Mills_Haircut wrote:
Short memories some of you!

There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences.

Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.
You can add Rotherham away in the cup, Woking away in the dark days of the conference too. However, and back to my original point, when was the last time you saw instances of this by home fans at Bootham Cresent?

As for encouraging younger fans to attend games, I am not sure what this will do to encourage this. I very much doubt that a young kids thought process would be "I'd best not attend a YCFC game in case a smoke grenade is let off".

The coverage of countless European leagues in which this is the norm and frequently televised by terstrial stations where the commentators lavish praise on the "brilliant atmosphere" (see Italian, Turkish and German leagues) is common. Addressing this would be more productive than an amnesty wheelie bin at a friendly game (or even stick it by the away end as this is the more likely location of anything like this).
[quote][p][bold]Gary_Mills_Haircut[/bold] wrote: Short memories some of you! There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences. Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.[/p][/quote]You can add Rotherham away in the cup, Woking away in the dark days of the conference too. However, and back to my original point, when was the last time you saw instances of this by home fans at Bootham Cresent? As for encouraging younger fans to attend games, I am not sure what this will do to encourage this. I very much doubt that a young kids thought process would be "I'd best not attend a YCFC game in case a smoke grenade is let off". The coverage of countless European leagues in which this is the norm and frequently televised by terstrial stations where the commentators lavish praise on the "brilliant atmosphere" (see Italian, Turkish and German leagues) is common. Addressing this would be more productive than an amnesty wheelie bin at a friendly game (or even stick it by the away end as this is the more likely location of anything like this). The Legend Of Keith
  • Score: 8

11:53am Sat 12 Jul 14

joejamestom says...

The Legend Of Keith wrote:
Gary_Mills_Haircut wrote:
Short memories some of you!

There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences.

Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.
You can add Rotherham away in the cup, Woking away in the dark days of the conference too. However, and back to my original point, when was the last time you saw instances of this by home fans at Bootham Cresent?

As for encouraging younger fans to attend games, I am not sure what this will do to encourage this. I very much doubt that a young kids thought process would be "I'd best not attend a YCFC game in case a smoke grenade is let off".

The coverage of countless European leagues in which this is the norm and frequently televised by terstrial stations where the commentators lavish praise on the "brilliant atmosphere" (see Italian, Turkish and German leagues) is common. Addressing this would be more productive than an amnesty wheelie bin at a friendly game (or even stick it by the away end as this is the more likely location of anything like this).
I remember the Woking one too & numerous ones since often away so its one or more of a core supporter group, luckily thus far no one has got hurt or any sanctions been taken against the club but it cannot last, hopefully no innocent party will suffer. The example set by the European club supporters is unhelpful but is a factor beyond York City to control they can only do their best to dissuade the fans & ban anyone caught which would be a shame for that person & the club.
[quote][p][bold]The Legend Of Keith[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gary_Mills_Haircut[/bold] wrote: Short memories some of you! There were flares let off by our fans at Wembley in the various games we played there. I also remember a flare set off in our end at Northampton either last season or the one before - and a few other incidences. Some people seem to have very rose-tinted spectacles. If we are to encourage younger fans to attend City games, this is a positive step.[/p][/quote]You can add Rotherham away in the cup, Woking away in the dark days of the conference too. However, and back to my original point, when was the last time you saw instances of this by home fans at Bootham Cresent? As for encouraging younger fans to attend games, I am not sure what this will do to encourage this. I very much doubt that a young kids thought process would be "I'd best not attend a YCFC game in case a smoke grenade is let off". The coverage of countless European leagues in which this is the norm and frequently televised by terstrial stations where the commentators lavish praise on the "brilliant atmosphere" (see Italian, Turkish and German leagues) is common. Addressing this would be more productive than an amnesty wheelie bin at a friendly game (or even stick it by the away end as this is the more likely location of anything like this).[/p][/quote]I remember the Woking one too & numerous ones since often away so its one or more of a core supporter group, luckily thus far no one has got hurt or any sanctions been taken against the club but it cannot last, hopefully no innocent party will suffer. The example set by the European club supporters is unhelpful but is a factor beyond York City to control they can only do their best to dissuade the fans & ban anyone caught which would be a shame for that person & the club. joejamestom
  • Score: 0

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