York City boss Nigel Worthington targets goalscoring midfielder

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YORK City boss Nigel Worthington is hoping to add a goalscoring midfielder to his squad before the end of the week.

The City chief wants to complete his summer transfer business prior to the start of pre-season training at Wigginton Road on Monday.

With that in mind, he is in advanced talks with a target who should improve the Minstermen's potency from central areas of the pitch.

Last term, midfielders Russell Penn, Lewis Montrose, Tom Platt, Adam Reed, Craig Clay and Elliott Whitehouse only contributed one goal in 132 collective outings.

Even that effort bounced inadvertently over the line after Portsmouth keeper John Sullivan had dropped a cross on to Montrose's heel.

Reed and Clay are no longer on the Bootham Crescent books, while Whitehouse was released by Sheffield United last month after ending his loan spell with the Minstermen in mid-season.

So far, during the close season, Worthington has recruited a goalkeeper Jason Mooney, two full-backs Marvin McCoy and Femi Ilesanmi, a centre-half Dave Winfield, a winger Anthony Straker and a striker Jake Hyde.

The former Northern Ireland chief revealed, however, that adding competition for the likes of Penn, Montrose and Platt in the middle of the park is now his chief objective.

"We are working on something at the minute and are hoping to make it happen as soon as we can," Worthington explained. "We have done most of our business already but still have a bit more to do and it would be nice to get everything on place before we come back for training.

"I would definitely like to get one more player in and maybe look at another wide player. The number one target is a midfielder though and that's what we are on with at the minute.

"We are looking for somebody who has scored a few goals from that area so we can add that to the group."

City are still waiting, meanwhile, to confirm the identity of their final pre-season opponents on Saturday, August 2 - seven days before the start of the Sky Bet League Two campaign.

The Minstermen chief added: "We are just waiting for one or two clubs to come back to us."

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6:55pm Mon 23 Jun 14

T.R.M1974 says...

Any whispers who we are talking to?
Any whispers who we are talking to? T.R.M1974
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7:03pm Mon 23 Jun 14

heartbreaker says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
Any whispers who we are talking to?
No idea. Maybe that Bristol Rovers guy. O'Toole?
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Any whispers who we are talking to?[/p][/quote]No idea. Maybe that Bristol Rovers guy. O'Toole? heartbreaker
  • Score: 2

7:03pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Dave Ruddock says...

EVENING PRESS - Is this person a Mayor as i believe its York City FC or Football Club, not just York City (boss) i nearly thought it was Jimmy Alexander
EVENING PRESS - Is this person a Mayor as i believe its York City FC or Football Club, not just York City (boss) i nearly thought it was Jimmy Alexander Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -28

8:03pm Mon 23 Jun 14

T.R.M1974 says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
EVENING PRESS - Is this person a Mayor as i believe its York City FC or Football Club, not just York City (boss) i nearly thought it was Jimmy Alexander
Have you had a long day flower?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: EVENING PRESS - Is this person a Mayor as i believe its York City FC or Football Club, not just York City (boss) i nearly thought it was Jimmy Alexander[/p][/quote]Have you had a long day flower? T.R.M1974
  • Score: 8

9:17pm Mon 23 Jun 14

nudger says...

One of the papers had Frank Lampard possibly joining 'new York City'. With six recent signings might that be us?
One of the papers had Frank Lampard possibly joining 'new York City'. With six recent signings might that be us? nudger
  • Score: 7

9:23pm Mon 23 Jun 14

tips says...

Good luck to NW in completing the jigsaw hope he gets his man .For me O Toole would be ideal but I am sure NW will have his man sooner than later.
Good luck to NW in completing the jigsaw hope he gets his man .For me O Toole would be ideal but I am sure NW will have his man sooner than later. tips
  • Score: 2

9:36pm Mon 23 Jun 14

chuckabuttie says...

At one point I too thought O'Toole would be a fair choice but he didn't endure himself to his team mates by suggesting they were pants back in March (good team player then) and check his goalscoring record since then. I'm also told he was the main target of a number of supporters who were on the pitch after the Mansfield game simply because of his attitude. If that's the case (and thisis all heresay) then no thank you
At one point I too thought O'Toole would be a fair choice but he didn't endure himself to his team mates by suggesting they were pants back in March (good team player then) and check his goalscoring record since then. I'm also told he was the main target of a number of supporters who were on the pitch after the Mansfield game simply because of his attitude. If that's the case (and thisis all heresay) then no thank you chuckabuttie
  • Score: 1

10:00pm Mon 23 Jun 14

bill bailey says...

The player is a good one, I have been told , but he wants 3yr contract so a there will need some wheeling and dealing on the contract and wages, I don't think any of the players NW has signed laid demands on the table ,I think the club makes an offer that's it. That's why we have club players,
The player is a good one, I have been told , but he wants 3yr contract so a there will need some wheeling and dealing on the contract and wages, I don't think any of the players NW has signed laid demands on the table ,I think the club makes an offer that's it. That's why we have club players, bill bailey
  • Score: 1

10:08am Tue 24 Jun 14

RooBeck says...

This is definitely a part of the team which can be improved on and yes, someone who could also chip-in with a few goals over the course of the season! An energetic, driving midfielder, sitting just behind the front two, linking midfield to attack and making things happen in the final third. Someone along the lines of Antony Sarcovic of Fleetwood, who was their main man in last season's promotion success for the Cod Army. COYR.
This is definitely a part of the team which can be improved on and yes, someone who could also chip-in with a few goals over the course of the season! An energetic, driving midfielder, sitting just behind the front two, linking midfield to attack and making things happen in the final third. Someone along the lines of Antony Sarcovic of Fleetwood, who was their main man in last season's promotion success for the Cod Army. COYR. RooBeck
  • Score: 3

11:02am Tue 24 Jun 14

North Lincs Minsterman says...

Is NW in Brazil?
Is NW in Brazil? North Lincs Minsterman
  • Score: 2

12:19pm Tue 24 Jun 14

redbluelion says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
Any whispers who we are talking to?
i don't i can't hear a thing with all this whispering ..lol
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: Any whispers who we are talking to?[/p][/quote]i don't i can't hear a thing with all this whispering ..lol redbluelion
  • Score: 2

2:08pm Tue 24 Jun 14

yorkandproud says...

I thought it had been said on this forum that O toole was trouble in the dressing room. Do we need a disruptive influence ? Leopards don't change their spots. I can name you dozens of players like that over the years.
I thought it had been said on this forum that O toole was trouble in the dressing room. Do we need a disruptive influence ? Leopards don't change their spots. I can name you dozens of players like that over the years. yorkandproud
  • Score: 6

4:46pm Tue 24 Jun 14

bill bailey says...

yorkandproud wrote:
I thought it had been said on this forum that O toole was trouble in the dressing room. Do we need a disruptive influence ? Leopards don't change their spots. I can name you dozens of players like that over the years.
YEP 100% right. yes you always get players falling out but there is always one who wants to stir the smelly stuff, but it would surprise me if NW would sign a player with a history, The job is hard enough without having dissent in the hot house, I think NW digs deep before he commits the club don't you ?
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: I thought it had been said on this forum that O toole was trouble in the dressing room. Do we need a disruptive influence ? Leopards don't change their spots. I can name you dozens of players like that over the years.[/p][/quote]YEP 100% right. yes you always get players falling out but there is always one who wants to stir the smelly stuff, but it would surprise me if NW would sign a player with a history, The job is hard enough without having dissent in the hot house, I think NW digs deep before he commits the club don't you ? bill bailey
  • Score: 6

7:58pm Tue 24 Jun 14

redbluelion says...

this coming season going to be a one way ride to the promised land..
onwards and upwards......... city on the march for glory.
this coming season going to be a one way ride to the promised land.. onwards and upwards......... city on the march for glory. redbluelion
  • Score: 0

10:11am Wed 25 Jun 14

North Lincs Minsterman says...

I too was keen on O'Toole even before he became available but have heard of the "disruptive" side of his game from one or two people. I am sure that NW has sufficient experience and common sense to realise this. It has surprised me that no one has as yet snapped up O'Toole - perhaps the rumours have foundation and he is well-known for it. But a pity - the lad has qualities that we could do with.
I too was keen on O'Toole even before he became available but have heard of the "disruptive" side of his game from one or two people. I am sure that NW has sufficient experience and common sense to realise this. It has surprised me that no one has as yet snapped up O'Toole - perhaps the rumours have foundation and he is well-known for it. But a pity - the lad has qualities that we could do with. North Lincs Minsterman
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Wed 25 Jun 14

YCFC 1955 says...

Maybe the clue is in his surname?
Maybe the clue is in his surname? YCFC 1955
  • Score: 5

3:35pm Wed 25 Jun 14

bill bailey says...

GREG DYKE has made a few comments lately the has caused him to be criticised , but I heard his thoughts on young players coming through the stages of their development from 8 to 17 yr olds, as a grandfather of a talented grandson who play's in the local league , and being a pro many years ago, he gave figures of the youngsters that make IT as he said, we get a false impression of success , he used the Premier League as the example of success, how can it be when 70% of the squads are overseas players, our home grown players play bit parts but those that do play are rated by the so called pundits and the papers as world class until we see what they are realy like on the world stage, I saw the Ivory Coast the didn't play to a set formation , they improvised to the pattern set by their opponents even the keeper played as an extra defender when needed, we are obsessed by 442 433 424, half the time the players get brainwashed by the manual that is thrown at them by coaches who are full of their own importance, and who are the makers and breakers of young talent,
In every walk of life you either got it or you haven't, when a young lad has it leave him alone let him have his head let him enjoy the game , looking at the Africans they do things you cant teach that is why they are emerging as
a world threat in the game , they aren't getting the same intense coaching as our kids are , Dyke said one in 100k reach the Premier League, my answer to that is they have become the manuals zombies and it showed, are we playing catch up in the world ? yes , we will never overtake the others until clubs spot the Messi Ronaldo, and just let them have their head and embrace natural talent ,there is a lack of it in England , we see it in other countries why is it not here ?
GREG DYKE has made a few comments lately the has caused him to be criticised , but I heard his thoughts on young players coming through the stages of their development from 8 to 17 yr olds, as a grandfather of a talented grandson who play's in the local league , and being a pro many years ago, he gave figures of the youngsters that make IT as he said, we get a false impression of success , he used the Premier League as the example of success, how can it be when 70% of the squads are overseas players, our home grown players play bit parts but those that do play are rated by the so called pundits and the papers as world class until we see what they are realy like on the world stage, I saw the Ivory Coast the didn't play to a set formation , they improvised to the pattern set by their opponents even the keeper played as an extra defender when needed, we are obsessed by 442 433 424, half the time the players get brainwashed by the manual that is thrown at them by coaches who are full of their own importance, and who are the makers and breakers of young talent, In every walk of life you either got it or you haven't, when a young lad has it leave him alone let him have his head let him enjoy the game , looking at the Africans they do things you cant teach that is why they are emerging as a world threat in the game , they aren't getting the same intense coaching as our kids are , Dyke said one in 100k reach the Premier League, my answer to that is they have become the manuals zombies and it showed, are we playing catch up in the world ? yes , we will never overtake the others until clubs spot the Messi Ronaldo, and just let them have their head and embrace natural talent ,there is a lack of it in England , we see it in other countries why is it not here ? bill bailey
  • Score: 9

4:25pm Wed 25 Jun 14

redbluelion says...

bill bailey wrote:
GREG DYKE has made a few comments lately the has caused him to be criticised , but I heard his thoughts on young players coming through the stages of their development from 8 to 17 yr olds, as a grandfather of a talented grandson who play's in the local league , and being a pro many years ago, he gave figures of the youngsters that make IT as he said, we get a false impression of success , he used the Premier League as the example of success, how can it be when 70% of the squads are overseas players, our home grown players play bit parts but those that do play are rated by the so called pundits and the papers as world class until we see what they are realy like on the world stage, I saw the Ivory Coast the didn't play to a set formation , they improvised to the pattern set by their opponents even the keeper played as an extra defender when needed, we are obsessed by 442 433 424, half the time the players get brainwashed by the manual that is thrown at them by coaches who are full of their own importance, and who are the makers and breakers of young talent, In every walk of life you either got it or you haven't, when a young lad has it leave him alone let him have his head let him enjoy the game , looking at the Africans they do things you cant teach that is why they are emerging as a world threat in the game , they aren't getting the same intense coaching as our kids are , Dyke said one in 100k reach the Premier League, my answer to that is they have become the manuals zombies and it showed, are we playing catch up in the world ? yes , we will never overtake the others until clubs spot the Messi Ronaldo, and just let them have their head and embrace natural talent ,there is a lack of it in England , we see it in other countries why is it not here ?
Maybe if the fa in the lower leagues for a change they will find talent that is good enough and worthy enough to be an england player. your only a lower league player until a top club buys you.there are players around in the championship and below who i believe would do a great job for england if only they got the call.players without the big money grabbing ego the premier league players have who will play with passion and be proud to pull on the three lions shirt.. ill never watch a england game again they keep letting us down ...think its time for a change in direction with the england team. we need to develop a young team and that means picking players from other leagues.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: GREG DYKE has made a few comments lately the has caused him to be criticised , but I heard his thoughts on young players coming through the stages of their development from 8 to 17 yr olds, as a grandfather of a talented grandson who play's in the local league , and being a pro many years ago, he gave figures of the youngsters that make IT as he said, we get a false impression of success , he used the Premier League as the example of success, how can it be when 70% of the squads are overseas players, our home grown players play bit parts but those that do play are rated by the so called pundits and the papers as world class until we see what they are realy like on the world stage, I saw the Ivory Coast the didn't play to a set formation , they improvised to the pattern set by their opponents even the keeper played as an extra defender when needed, we are obsessed by 442 433 424, half the time the players get brainwashed by the manual that is thrown at them by coaches who are full of their own importance, and who are the makers and breakers of young talent, In every walk of life you either got it or you haven't, when a young lad has it leave him alone let him have his head let him enjoy the game , looking at the Africans they do things you cant teach that is why they are emerging as a world threat in the game , they aren't getting the same intense coaching as our kids are , Dyke said one in 100k reach the Premier League, my answer to that is they have become the manuals zombies and it showed, are we playing catch up in the world ? yes , we will never overtake the others until clubs spot the Messi Ronaldo, and just let them have their head and embrace natural talent ,there is a lack of it in England , we see it in other countries why is it not here ?[/p][/quote]Maybe if the fa in the lower leagues for a change they will find talent that is good enough and worthy enough to be an england player. your only a lower league player until a top club buys you.there are players around in the championship and below who i believe would do a great job for england if only they got the call.players without the big money grabbing ego the premier league players have who will play with passion and be proud to pull on the three lions shirt.. ill never watch a england game again they keep letting us down ...think its time for a change in direction with the england team. we need to develop a young team and that means picking players from other leagues. redbluelion
  • Score: 3

4:42pm Wed 25 Jun 14

bill bailey says...

redbluelion wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
GREG DYKE has made a few comments lately the has caused him to be criticised , but I heard his thoughts on young players coming through the stages of their development from 8 to 17 yr olds, as a grandfather of a talented grandson who play's in the local league , and being a pro many years ago, he gave figures of the youngsters that make IT as he said, we get a false impression of success , he used the Premier League as the example of success, how can it be when 70% of the squads are overseas players, our home grown players play bit parts but those that do play are rated by the so called pundits and the papers as world class until we see what they are realy like on the world stage, I saw the Ivory Coast the didn't play to a set formation , they improvised to the pattern set by their opponents even the keeper played as an extra defender when needed, we are obsessed by 442 433 424, half the time the players get brainwashed by the manual that is thrown at them by coaches who are full of their own importance, and who are the makers and breakers of young talent, In every walk of life you either got it or you haven't, when a young lad has it leave him alone let him have his head let him enjoy the game , looking at the Africans they do things you cant teach that is why they are emerging as a world threat in the game , they aren't getting the same intense coaching as our kids are , Dyke said one in 100k reach the Premier League, my answer to that is they have become the manuals zombies and it showed, are we playing catch up in the world ? yes , we will never overtake the others until clubs spot the Messi Ronaldo, and just let them have their head and embrace natural talent ,there is a lack of it in England , we see it in other countries why is it not here ?
Maybe if the fa in the lower leagues for a change they will find talent that is good enough and worthy enough to be an england player. your only a lower league player until a top club buys you.there are players around in the championship and below who i believe would do a great job for england if only they got the call.players without the big money grabbing ego the premier league players have who will play with passion and be proud to pull on the three lions shirt.. ill never watch a england game again they keep letting us down ...think its time for a change in direction with the england team. we need to develop a young team and that means picking players from other leagues.
Totally agree with you my friend. I get no kicks watching England any more, every game is a rerun of ones I saw twenty years ago. what I saw recently is nothing more than a slap in the face to as you say players in the lower divisions who would give their right arm for the chance to play, and they are good enough, The sponsors pick the squad end of story, Nothing since 1966.
Rooney earns in excess of 20million a year..he's not hungry enough and not good enough. One cross to assist the goal and the papers say world class. Am I missing something ??
[quote][p][bold]redbluelion[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: GREG DYKE has made a few comments lately the has caused him to be criticised , but I heard his thoughts on young players coming through the stages of their development from 8 to 17 yr olds, as a grandfather of a talented grandson who play's in the local league , and being a pro many years ago, he gave figures of the youngsters that make IT as he said, we get a false impression of success , he used the Premier League as the example of success, how can it be when 70% of the squads are overseas players, our home grown players play bit parts but those that do play are rated by the so called pundits and the papers as world class until we see what they are realy like on the world stage, I saw the Ivory Coast the didn't play to a set formation , they improvised to the pattern set by their opponents even the keeper played as an extra defender when needed, we are obsessed by 442 433 424, half the time the players get brainwashed by the manual that is thrown at them by coaches who are full of their own importance, and who are the makers and breakers of young talent, In every walk of life you either got it or you haven't, when a young lad has it leave him alone let him have his head let him enjoy the game , looking at the Africans they do things you cant teach that is why they are emerging as a world threat in the game , they aren't getting the same intense coaching as our kids are , Dyke said one in 100k reach the Premier League, my answer to that is they have become the manuals zombies and it showed, are we playing catch up in the world ? yes , we will never overtake the others until clubs spot the Messi Ronaldo, and just let them have their head and embrace natural talent ,there is a lack of it in England , we see it in other countries why is it not here ?[/p][/quote]Maybe if the fa in the lower leagues for a change they will find talent that is good enough and worthy enough to be an england player. your only a lower league player until a top club buys you.there are players around in the championship and below who i believe would do a great job for england if only they got the call.players without the big money grabbing ego the premier league players have who will play with passion and be proud to pull on the three lions shirt.. ill never watch a england game again they keep letting us down ...think its time for a change in direction with the england team. we need to develop a young team and that means picking players from other leagues.[/p][/quote]Totally agree with you my friend. I get no kicks watching England any more, every game is a rerun of ones I saw twenty years ago. what I saw recently is nothing more than a slap in the face to as you say players in the lower divisions who would give their right arm for the chance to play, and they are good enough, The sponsors pick the squad end of story, Nothing since 1966. Rooney earns in excess of 20million a year..he's not hungry enough and not good enough. One cross to assist the goal and the papers say world class. Am I missing something ?? bill bailey
  • Score: 3

4:52pm Wed 25 Jun 14

chuckabuttie says...

Agree with most of that Bill, but I still think England were unlucky in 1990. Ok, lets drag up the penalties debate but I still reckon they'd have beaten Argentina in that years final. So "something" since 66 but certainly little to offer since, shy of a bash at Euro 96
Agree with most of that Bill, but I still think England were unlucky in 1990. Ok, lets drag up the penalties debate but I still reckon they'd have beaten Argentina in that years final. So "something" since 66 but certainly little to offer since, shy of a bash at Euro 96 chuckabuttie
  • Score: 3

5:02pm Wed 25 Jun 14

NottsExile says...

I am afraid that many people's predictions are coming true. Clubs in the lower leagues recognise and nurture the emerging talent and inevitably some of the bigger clubs spot them, buy them and take them to the next level. It has been forever thus and I for one do not resent this as our club still grows and strengthens and believe me I do NOT want to see us in the Premier League, which is about six or seven of the twenty clubs battling for the prize of European football.
I enjoy watching City and have done for many years, because at our level it is GOOD, HONEST and generally equitable football.
There is now a glass ceiling that prevents the young, raw talent from advancing into the higher levels because the clubs owned by wealthy foreign owners find any overseas player (hence the 70% figure quoted earlier) and put them into their team. This stifles the home-grown talent and weakens the national squad, strangling it over time. I am not xenophobic but a realist who has, like many people, predicted this situation for a long time.
My solution - make it obligatory for the top two leagues to have at least 50% of their match day squad made up of home-grown talent. That will make these clubs nurture our own talent.
It will no doubt be picked to pieces by people who know more about the intricacies of this but that is my opinion.
IN the meantime I remain proud to support one of the 'good guys' of the football world - Come on City
I am afraid that many people's predictions are coming true. Clubs in the lower leagues recognise and nurture the emerging talent and inevitably some of the bigger clubs spot them, buy them and take them to the next level. It has been forever thus and I for one do not resent this as our club still grows and strengthens and believe me I do NOT want to see us in the Premier League, which is about six or seven of the twenty clubs battling for the prize of European football. I enjoy watching City and have done for many years, because at our level it is GOOD, HONEST and generally equitable football. There is now a glass ceiling that prevents the young, raw talent from advancing into the higher levels because the clubs owned by wealthy foreign owners find any overseas player (hence the 70% figure quoted earlier) and put them into their team. This stifles the home-grown talent and weakens the national squad, strangling it over time. I am not xenophobic but a realist who has, like many people, predicted this situation for a long time. My solution - make it obligatory for the top two leagues to have at least 50% of their match day squad made up of home-grown talent. That will make these clubs nurture our own talent. It will no doubt be picked to pieces by people who know more about the intricacies of this but that is my opinion. IN the meantime I remain proud to support one of the 'good guys' of the football world - Come on City NottsExile
  • Score: 12

6:27pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Tug job says...

chuckabuttie wrote:
Agree with most of that Bill, but I still think England were unlucky in 1990. Ok, lets drag up the penalties debate but I still reckon they'd have beaten Argentina in that years final. So "something" since 66 but certainly little to offer since, shy of a bash at Euro 96
The England team has entered 16 World Cup competitions and has qualified for the finals 13 times. England has reached the quarter finals 6 times, made one semi-finals, and won the competition once. Keeping things in perspective, the record isn't that bad. Performances this time were poor against Costa Rica and disappointing against Uruguay, but encouraging against Italy. However, this remains a better campaign than those of 1974, 1974 and 1994.
[quote][p][bold]chuckabuttie[/bold] wrote: Agree with most of that Bill, but I still think England were unlucky in 1990. Ok, lets drag up the penalties debate but I still reckon they'd have beaten Argentina in that years final. So "something" since 66 but certainly little to offer since, shy of a bash at Euro 96[/p][/quote]The England team has entered 16 World Cup competitions and has qualified for the finals 13 times. England has reached the quarter finals 6 times, made one semi-finals, and won the competition once. Keeping things in perspective, the record isn't that bad. Performances this time were poor against Costa Rica and disappointing against Uruguay, but encouraging against Italy. However, this remains a better campaign than those of 1974, 1974 and 1994. Tug job
  • Score: 5

7:04pm Wed 25 Jun 14

dazthecat says...

NottsExile wrote:
I am afraid that many people's predictions are coming true. Clubs in the lower leagues recognise and nurture the emerging talent and inevitably some of the bigger clubs spot them, buy them and take them to the next level. It has been forever thus and I for one do not resent this as our club still grows and strengthens and believe me I do NOT want to see us in the Premier League, which is about six or seven of the twenty clubs battling for the prize of European football.
I enjoy watching City and have done for many years, because at our level it is GOOD, HONEST and generally equitable football.
There is now a glass ceiling that prevents the young, raw talent from advancing into the higher levels because the clubs owned by wealthy foreign owners find any overseas player (hence the 70% figure quoted earlier) and put them into their team. This stifles the home-grown talent and weakens the national squad, strangling it over time. I am not xenophobic but a realist who has, like many people, predicted this situation for a long time.
My solution - make it obligatory for the top two leagues to have at least 50% of their match day squad made up of home-grown talent. That will make these clubs nurture our own talent.
It will no doubt be picked to pieces by people who know more about the intricacies of this but that is my opinion.
IN the meantime I remain proud to support one of the 'good guys' of the football world - Come on City
Spot on, and home grown as in eligible for England, not the current nonsense of training in England for 3 years before whatever age, which just acts as a loophole for Wenger, etc. Whether the FA has the guts to tackle the premier league on that front is a huge sticking point, it seems easier to them to rip up the lower league structure to appease the big clubs, which is precisely why it can't be allowed to happen.

Don't really buy the lack of hunger argument, I think almost all the current squad are every bit as hungry as anyone else would be, just not good enough. I accept Rooney May not be, but when you're constantly vilified whenever you put on the shirt I think it's understandable to be honest
[quote][p][bold]NottsExile[/bold] wrote: I am afraid that many people's predictions are coming true. Clubs in the lower leagues recognise and nurture the emerging talent and inevitably some of the bigger clubs spot them, buy them and take them to the next level. It has been forever thus and I for one do not resent this as our club still grows and strengthens and believe me I do NOT want to see us in the Premier League, which is about six or seven of the twenty clubs battling for the prize of European football. I enjoy watching City and have done for many years, because at our level it is GOOD, HONEST and generally equitable football. There is now a glass ceiling that prevents the young, raw talent from advancing into the higher levels because the clubs owned by wealthy foreign owners find any overseas player (hence the 70% figure quoted earlier) and put them into their team. This stifles the home-grown talent and weakens the national squad, strangling it over time. I am not xenophobic but a realist who has, like many people, predicted this situation for a long time. My solution - make it obligatory for the top two leagues to have at least 50% of their match day squad made up of home-grown talent. That will make these clubs nurture our own talent. It will no doubt be picked to pieces by people who know more about the intricacies of this but that is my opinion. IN the meantime I remain proud to support one of the 'good guys' of the football world - Come on City[/p][/quote]Spot on, and home grown as in eligible for England, not the current nonsense of training in England for 3 years before whatever age, which just acts as a loophole for Wenger, etc. Whether the FA has the guts to tackle the premier league on that front is a huge sticking point, it seems easier to them to rip up the lower league structure to appease the big clubs, which is precisely why it can't be allowed to happen. Don't really buy the lack of hunger argument, I think almost all the current squad are every bit as hungry as anyone else would be, just not good enough. I accept Rooney May not be, but when you're constantly vilified whenever you put on the shirt I think it's understandable to be honest dazthecat
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7:47pm Wed 25 Jun 14

NottsExile says...

dazthecat wrote:
NottsExile wrote:
I am afraid that many people's predictions are coming true. Clubs in the lower leagues recognise and nurture the emerging talent and inevitably some of the bigger clubs spot them, buy them and take them to the next level. It has been forever thus and I for one do not resent this as our club still grows and strengthens and believe me I do NOT want to see us in the Premier League, which is about six or seven of the twenty clubs battling for the prize of European football.
I enjoy watching City and have done for many years, because at our level it is GOOD, HONEST and generally equitable football.
There is now a glass ceiling that prevents the young, raw talent from advancing into the higher levels because the clubs owned by wealthy foreign owners find any overseas player (hence the 70% figure quoted earlier) and put them into their team. This stifles the home-grown talent and weakens the national squad, strangling it over time. I am not xenophobic but a realist who has, like many people, predicted this situation for a long time.
My solution - make it obligatory for the top two leagues to have at least 50% of their match day squad made up of home-grown talent. That will make these clubs nurture our own talent.
It will no doubt be picked to pieces by people who know more about the intricacies of this but that is my opinion.
IN the meantime I remain proud to support one of the 'good guys' of the football world - Come on City
Spot on, and home grown as in eligible for England, not the current nonsense of training in England for 3 years before whatever age, which just acts as a loophole for Wenger, etc. Whether the FA has the guts to tackle the premier league on that front is a huge sticking point, it seems easier to them to rip up the lower league structure to appease the big clubs, which is precisely why it can't be allowed to happen.

Don't really buy the lack of hunger argument, I think almost all the current squad are every bit as hungry as anyone else would be, just not good enough. I accept Rooney May not be, but when you're constantly vilified whenever you put on the shirt I think it's understandable to be honest
I agree as regards the lack of will from the Premier League to engage with anything that will impact on the income of megabucks from broadcasters but that shows what is most important to the FA - money not the national side's prospects.
To those who say the Premier League is the best in the world I say this - I bet 99% of Premier League 'fans' are from overseas who watch their best players plying their trade in our league and laugh at us for reducing our threat on the world stage.
[quote][p][bold]dazthecat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NottsExile[/bold] wrote: I am afraid that many people's predictions are coming true. Clubs in the lower leagues recognise and nurture the emerging talent and inevitably some of the bigger clubs spot them, buy them and take them to the next level. It has been forever thus and I for one do not resent this as our club still grows and strengthens and believe me I do NOT want to see us in the Premier League, which is about six or seven of the twenty clubs battling for the prize of European football. I enjoy watching City and have done for many years, because at our level it is GOOD, HONEST and generally equitable football. There is now a glass ceiling that prevents the young, raw talent from advancing into the higher levels because the clubs owned by wealthy foreign owners find any overseas player (hence the 70% figure quoted earlier) and put them into their team. This stifles the home-grown talent and weakens the national squad, strangling it over time. I am not xenophobic but a realist who has, like many people, predicted this situation for a long time. My solution - make it obligatory for the top two leagues to have at least 50% of their match day squad made up of home-grown talent. That will make these clubs nurture our own talent. It will no doubt be picked to pieces by people who know more about the intricacies of this but that is my opinion. IN the meantime I remain proud to support one of the 'good guys' of the football world - Come on City[/p][/quote]Spot on, and home grown as in eligible for England, not the current nonsense of training in England for 3 years before whatever age, which just acts as a loophole for Wenger, etc. Whether the FA has the guts to tackle the premier league on that front is a huge sticking point, it seems easier to them to rip up the lower league structure to appease the big clubs, which is precisely why it can't be allowed to happen. Don't really buy the lack of hunger argument, I think almost all the current squad are every bit as hungry as anyone else would be, just not good enough. I accept Rooney May not be, but when you're constantly vilified whenever you put on the shirt I think it's understandable to be honest[/p][/quote]I agree as regards the lack of will from the Premier League to engage with anything that will impact on the income of megabucks from broadcasters but that shows what is most important to the FA - money not the national side's prospects. To those who say the Premier League is the best in the world I say this - I bet 99% of Premier League 'fans' are from overseas who watch their best players plying their trade in our league and laugh at us for reducing our threat on the world stage. NottsExile
  • Score: 6

12:51pm Thu 26 Jun 14

bill bailey says...

Tug job wrote:
chuckabuttie wrote:
Agree with most of that Bill, but I still think England were unlucky in 1990. Ok, lets drag up the penalties debate but I still reckon they'd have beaten Argentina in that years final. So "something" since 66 but certainly little to offer since, shy of a bash at Euro 96
The England team has entered 16 World Cup competitions and has qualified for the finals 13 times. England has reached the quarter finals 6 times, made one semi-finals, and won the competition once. Keeping things in perspective, the record isn't that bad. Performances this time were poor against Costa Rica and disappointing against Uruguay, but encouraging against Italy. However, this remains a better campaign than those of 1974, 1974 and 1994.
TJ my point was for a Country that puts itself up as a leading one in the game we have become a laughing stock, I saw nothing encouraging from this England team, that suggests our performance will be any better in 2016. we need a manager who is a free spirit his ands not tied by sponsors or the useless FA who will pick players from any division, and is man enough to stand and be counted not do as the press wants him to do. The supporters want us to be winners but we haven't been , NOTHING since 1966, im I happy about that, what do you think ?
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chuckabuttie[/bold] wrote: Agree with most of that Bill, but I still think England were unlucky in 1990. Ok, lets drag up the penalties debate but I still reckon they'd have beaten Argentina in that years final. So "something" since 66 but certainly little to offer since, shy of a bash at Euro 96[/p][/quote]The England team has entered 16 World Cup competitions and has qualified for the finals 13 times. England has reached the quarter finals 6 times, made one semi-finals, and won the competition once. Keeping things in perspective, the record isn't that bad. Performances this time were poor against Costa Rica and disappointing against Uruguay, but encouraging against Italy. However, this remains a better campaign than those of 1974, 1974 and 1994.[/p][/quote]TJ my point was for a Country that puts itself up as a leading one in the game we have become a laughing stock, I saw nothing encouraging from this England team, that suggests our performance will be any better in 2016. we need a manager who is a free spirit his ands not tied by sponsors or the useless FA who will pick players from any division, and is man enough to stand and be counted not do as the press wants him to do. The supporters want us to be winners but we haven't been , NOTHING since 1966, im I happy about that, what do you think ? bill bailey
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