York City boss keen for dropped goalkeeper Michael Ingham to stay

York City boss keen for dropped ’keeper to stay

Michael Ingham

Michael Ingham’s Twitter profile

First published in Sport York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Sports reporter

NIGEL Worthington has asked dropped goalkeeper Michael Ingham to act like a “good professional” if he wants to get back into the York City team.

The 33-year-old shot-stopper was replaced by on-loan signing Nick Pope for Saturday’s 0-0 home draw with Bristol Rovers.

Since then, Ingham’s personal Twitter profile was changed and yesterday read “ex York City GK”.

But Worthington is insisting he wants the long-serving net-minder, who has kept 111 clean sheets in 304 appearances for the club, to stay at Bootham Crescent at least until his contract expires this summer.

The City boss said: “You don’t expect any player to take losing their place easily. It’s always a disappointment but you have to deal with it in the right manner.

“That’s important. Like all good professionals, when you are out of the team, you have to get your head down, work hard and wait for your opportunity.

“I always say to players who have been left out that you never know what’s round the corner. Things can change tomorrow or in two months’ time and you have got to be ready mentally and physically for that possibility.

“You do that by doing your work and staying sharp. You have to maintain high standards in your job and, if you don’t, I will deal with it.

“Michael is very much part of the group and I have told him that we will evaluate everything at the end of the season and take things from there. He is contracted to York City until the end of the season and I want two good ’keepers to the club.

“I have told him he won’t be able to go out on loan because I don’t want to go out and get another loan ’keeper, so that’s the situation in black and white.”

The Minstermen chief went on to cite two-time Press Player of the Year Dan Parslow as an illustration of the response expected from anybody who loses their place in the side.

Parslow has been dropped by Worthington, as well as past managers Gary Mills, Martin Foyle and Billy McEwan during seven-and-a-half years on the Bootham Crescent books, but has come back to become a permanent fixture in the team each time.

The City boss added: “If you are looking for somebody who keeps his head, works hard and stays focused when he’s out of the team then I suppose Dan Parslow would be a prime example of that.”

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12:25pm Tue 21 Jan 14

tips says...

I am not surprised at Michael's reaction to being dropped but cannot condone spitting out his dummy.He is a professional and needs to act like one and buckle down swallow his pride and like every other member of the squad fight for his place.
Over the past few seasons he has had little or no competition for his place but he has to accept he needs to get out of his comfort zone , act like a man and work his socks off to regain his place .
I am not surprised at Michael's reaction to being dropped but cannot condone spitting out his dummy.He is a professional and needs to act like one and buckle down swallow his pride and like every other member of the squad fight for his place. Over the past few seasons he has had little or no competition for his place but he has to accept he needs to get out of his comfort zone , act like a man and work his socks off to regain his place . tips
  • Score: 49

12:28pm Tue 21 Jan 14

haxbyycfc says...

There's a difference between dropping a GK because they're performing badly and dropping a GK because he fancies the other one more. Feel Inghy has been treated pretty harshly here. Especially after his outing against Morecambe, where he kept us in the game. I would have understood it had he made sloppy mistakes and created his own downfall.
There's a difference between dropping a GK because they're performing badly and dropping a GK because he fancies the other one more. Feel Inghy has been treated pretty harshly here. Especially after his outing against Morecambe, where he kept us in the game. I would have understood it had he made sloppy mistakes and created his own downfall. haxbyycfc
  • Score: 22

12:33pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Justin7 says...

He was probably being jokey anyway. But the Press wanted to make a story out of it, a bit like how media trawl facebook for photos when someone is murdered.
He was probably being jokey anyway. But the Press wanted to make a story out of it, a bit like how media trawl facebook for photos when someone is murdered. Justin7
  • Score: 7

12:33pm Tue 21 Jan 14

rawcliffeyorkieboy says...

I like Ingham and he is a good keeper who has been a consistent performer up to this season. He would be the first to admit to having a poor season and although I don't agree with the timing of him being dropped, his performances in the first half of the season combined with his age make me think that we've probably seen the best of him and it's time to move on. Also got to say that his reaction to being dropped as harsh as it may be is very childish.
I like Ingham and he is a good keeper who has been a consistent performer up to this season. He would be the first to admit to having a poor season and although I don't agree with the timing of him being dropped, his performances in the first half of the season combined with his age make me think that we've probably seen the best of him and it's time to move on. Also got to say that his reaction to being dropped as harsh as it may be is very childish. rawcliffeyorkieboy
  • Score: 3

12:47pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Maltkiln says...

I agre with this article and all of the words NW has said .... apart from one thing ..... on current form he didn't deserve to be dropped !
I agre with this article and all of the words NW has said .... apart from one thing ..... on current form he didn't deserve to be dropped ! Maltkiln
  • Score: 16

12:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

YorkCityLuke says...

Very harsh (and kind of illogical) to drop him after a run of good performances and results - but NW is right that he just has to accept it and get on with reclaiming his place. I personally hope he does, as he's been a good keeper for us for many years and has proven (e.g. in the last few games) that he is good enough to play in the football league. Competition is great, but I hope it is a level playing field.
Very harsh (and kind of illogical) to drop him after a run of good performances and results - but NW is right that he just has to accept it and get on with reclaiming his place. I personally hope he does, as he's been a good keeper for us for many years and has proven (e.g. in the last few games) that he is good enough to play in the football league. Competition is great, but I hope it is a level playing field. YorkCityLuke
  • Score: 5

1:44pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Yorkie69 says...

Quote from Michael Ingham January 8th 2014
He said: “I’ve got the jersey and gloves now.

“The gaffer will be bringing somebody in as competition but I am not the type who spits out his dummy and gets angry with stuff like that.

“I haven’t been in the gaffer’s office all season. He wants people who want to play and he wants healthy competition for the football team.

“At the end of the day, it’s not all about me – it’s about the club. But I am happy here and I don’t want to go anywhere.
Quote from Michael Ingham January 8th 2014 He said: “I’ve got the jersey and gloves now. “The gaffer will be bringing somebody in as competition but I am not the type who spits out his dummy and gets angry with stuff like that. “I haven’t been in the gaffer’s office all season. He wants people who want to play and he wants healthy competition for the football team. “At the end of the day, it’s not all about me – it’s about the club. But I am happy here and I don’t want to go anywhere. Yorkie69
  • Score: 17

1:51pm Tue 21 Jan 14

dadster says...

tips wrote:
I am not surprised at Michael's reaction to being dropped but cannot condone spitting out his dummy.He is a professional and needs to act like one and buckle down swallow his pride and like every other member of the squad fight for his place.
Over the past few seasons he has had little or no competition for his place but he has to accept he needs to get out of his comfort zone , act like a man and work his socks off to regain his place .
Agree 100% with you on this tips.

I was surprised he was dropped but like I pointed out on a previous post I don't think he's been as great as some people seem to think in the 3 games he's had since coming back (Morecambe aside of course).

IMO he's had it too easy for too long with no competition and whilst he's been a great servant to City over a number of years it is now history and we need to look at the present and future and if that means Pope is our best option then so be it and Ingham needs to be mature and sensible enough to accept it and wait for his chance again should Pope suffer a loss of form/ injury/recall by Charlton.

There's no room for sentiment and I fully back NW on this one.

Ingham may well have been joking with his Twitter profile but he should be more professional and realize that it doesn't do him any favours whatsoever in terms of people's perception of him (particularly his employers!).
[quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: I am not surprised at Michael's reaction to being dropped but cannot condone spitting out his dummy.He is a professional and needs to act like one and buckle down swallow his pride and like every other member of the squad fight for his place. Over the past few seasons he has had little or no competition for his place but he has to accept he needs to get out of his comfort zone , act like a man and work his socks off to regain his place .[/p][/quote]Agree 100% with you on this tips. I was surprised he was dropped but like I pointed out on a previous post I don't think he's been as great as some people seem to think in the 3 games he's had since coming back (Morecambe aside of course). IMO he's had it too easy for too long with no competition and whilst he's been a great servant to City over a number of years it is now history and we need to look at the present and future and if that means Pope is our best option then so be it and Ingham needs to be mature and sensible enough to accept it and wait for his chance again should Pope suffer a loss of form/ injury/recall by Charlton. There's no room for sentiment and I fully back NW on this one. Ingham may well have been joking with his Twitter profile but he should be more professional and realize that it doesn't do him any favours whatsoever in terms of people's perception of him (particularly his employers!). dadster
  • Score: 10

2:08pm Tue 21 Jan 14

upthecity says...

3 wins on the bounce and he gets dropped, thats very poor treatment of a York City legend. Clearly Ingy isn't Worthys cup of tea and sadly he will be leaving at the end of this season which is a great shame given his performances and number of clean sheets over the years.
3 wins on the bounce and he gets dropped, thats very poor treatment of a York City legend. Clearly Ingy isn't Worthys cup of tea and sadly he will be leaving at the end of this season which is a great shame given his performances and number of clean sheets over the years. upthecity
  • Score: -7

2:16pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OLD - HEAD says...

Michael Ingham was very unfortunate to be dropped after playing a big part in our three successive wins. I can fully understand his reaction to this. Nigel Worthington obviously has no intention of ever offering him another contract, so everyone can understand how Michael feels. My only grumble is that once again York City Football Club has decided to air its dirty washing in public. Due to this unwanted publicity I wouldnt be surprised if another club doesnt enquire about Ingham, perhaps that would be the best outcome to this sorry tale.
Michael Ingham was very unfortunate to be dropped after playing a big part in our three successive wins. I can fully understand his reaction to this. Nigel Worthington obviously has no intention of ever offering him another contract, so everyone can understand how Michael feels. My only grumble is that once again York City Football Club has decided to air its dirty washing in public. Due to this unwanted publicity I wouldnt be surprised if another club doesnt enquire about Ingham, perhaps that would be the best outcome to this sorry tale. OLD - HEAD
  • Score: -2

2:43pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Robert Davro says...

He's changed his Twitter profile to 'Always took wrong way! You obviously dont get me! Apologies!'. Nothing story, just him being funny (trying). He's a good lad though. Up the City!
He's changed his Twitter profile to 'Always took wrong way! You obviously dont get me! Apologies!'. Nothing story, just him being funny (trying). He's a good lad though. Up the City! Robert Davro
  • Score: 13

2:46pm Tue 21 Jan 14

dadster says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
Michael Ingham was very unfortunate to be dropped after playing a big part in our three successive wins. I can fully understand his reaction to this. Nigel Worthington obviously has no intention of ever offering him another contract, so everyone can understand how Michael feels. My only grumble is that once again York City Football Club has decided to air its dirty washing in public. Due to this unwanted publicity I wouldnt be surprised if another club doesnt enquire about Ingham, perhaps that would be the best outcome to this sorry tale.
I agree that it looks as though he will be gone by the summer but I don't think the club has "decided to air it's dirty washing in public". NW seems to be simply stating common sense and reacting to the obvious questions that the media (both Radio and written press) are asking. If anyone has acted inappropriately in this it's Ingham with his rather childish response via his Twitter profile (joking or not). IMO he's not done himself any favours with that whatsoever.

As Yorkie69 states in an earlier post in this thread Ingham was recently quoted as saying:

“The gaffer will be bringing somebody in as competition but I am not the type who spits out his dummy and gets angry with stuff like that.

“I haven’t been in the gaffer’s office all season. He wants people who want to play and he wants healthy competition for the football team.

“At the end of the day, it’s not all about me – it’s about the club. But I am happy here and I don’t want to go anywhere."

I just hope he adheres to the above quote and continues to give 100% for the remainder of his time at York City however long that may be. It's the minimum expectation.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham was very unfortunate to be dropped after playing a big part in our three successive wins. I can fully understand his reaction to this. Nigel Worthington obviously has no intention of ever offering him another contract, so everyone can understand how Michael feels. My only grumble is that once again York City Football Club has decided to air its dirty washing in public. Due to this unwanted publicity I wouldnt be surprised if another club doesnt enquire about Ingham, perhaps that would be the best outcome to this sorry tale.[/p][/quote]I agree that it looks as though he will be gone by the summer but I don't think the club has "decided to air it's dirty washing in public". NW seems to be simply stating common sense and reacting to the obvious questions that the media (both Radio and written press) are asking. If anyone has acted inappropriately in this it's Ingham with his rather childish response via his Twitter profile (joking or not). IMO he's not done himself any favours with that whatsoever. As Yorkie69 states in an earlier post in this thread Ingham was recently quoted as saying: “The gaffer will be bringing somebody in as competition but I am not the type who spits out his dummy and gets angry with stuff like that. “I haven’t been in the gaffer’s office all season. He wants people who want to play and he wants healthy competition for the football team. “At the end of the day, it’s not all about me – it’s about the club. But I am happy here and I don’t want to go anywhere." I just hope he adheres to the above quote and continues to give 100% for the remainder of his time at York City however long that may be. It's the minimum expectation. dadster
  • Score: 8

3:03pm Tue 21 Jan 14

SethArmstrong says...

If Blair had scored the sitter at Northampton it would have been a different game and people would have been talking about an Ingham flap. He didn't so we haven't. But managers are paid to see to these things regardless. Maybe it's harsh, maybe it isn't, but if Worthington thinks it's right for the team going forward then i'm happy to back him on it.
If Blair had scored the sitter at Northampton it would have been a different game and people would have been talking about an Ingham flap. He didn't so we haven't. But managers are paid to see to these things regardless. Maybe it's harsh, maybe it isn't, but if Worthington thinks it's right for the team going forward then i'm happy to back him on it. SethArmstrong
  • Score: 19

3:21pm Tue 21 Jan 14

tips says...

Robert Davro wrote:
He's changed his Twitter profile to 'Always took wrong way! You obviously dont get me! Apologies!'. Nothing story, just him being funny (trying). He's a good lad though. Up the City!
I think his Twitter profile was meant as a joke but I wish him well and feel if he now shows a positive and willing attitude to knuckle down and compete for his place he will be rewarded with a new contract.
NW s no fool and will be wanting two keepers in his squad in good and healthy competition for the number 1 spot
I hope this is now put to bed and the team as whole can unite and continue to show we can climb this league
.
[quote][p][bold]Robert Davro[/bold] wrote: He's changed his Twitter profile to 'Always took wrong way! You obviously dont get me! Apologies!'. Nothing story, just him being funny (trying). He's a good lad though. Up the City![/p][/quote]I think his Twitter profile was meant as a joke but I wish him well and feel if he now shows a positive and willing attitude to knuckle down and compete for his place he will be rewarded with a new contract. NW s no fool and will be wanting two keepers in his squad in good and healthy competition for the number 1 spot I hope this is now put to bed and the team as whole can unite and continue to show we can climb this league . tips
  • Score: 5

3:41pm Tue 21 Jan 14

T.R.M1974 says...

Bit like Coulson earlier in the season this with twitter, but he got his head down worked hard and got his role back in the team. Lets see if Ingham can do this or will his ego get the better of him?
Bit like Coulson earlier in the season this with twitter, but he got his head down worked hard and got his role back in the team. Lets see if Ingham can do this or will his ego get the better of him? T.R.M1974
  • Score: 5

3:59pm Tue 21 Jan 14

RooBeck says...

Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi
eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR. RooBeck
  • Score: 7

4:30pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
Michael Ingham was very unfortunate to be dropped after playing a big part in our three successive wins. I can fully understand his reaction to this. Nigel Worthington obviously has no intention of ever offering him another contract, so everyone can understand how Michael feels. My only grumble is that once again York City Football Club has decided to air its dirty washing in public. Due to this unwanted publicity I wouldnt be surprised if another club doesnt enquire about Ingham, perhaps that would be the best outcome to this sorry tale.
We read the washing dirty or clean in the papers every day I don't think the club is hanging anything out.if what you say is true then MI hung his out when he said " Ex City Keeper", I wont loose any sleep over this one.
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham was very unfortunate to be dropped after playing a big part in our three successive wins. I can fully understand his reaction to this. Nigel Worthington obviously has no intention of ever offering him another contract, so everyone can understand how Michael feels. My only grumble is that once again York City Football Club has decided to air its dirty washing in public. Due to this unwanted publicity I wouldnt be surprised if another club doesnt enquire about Ingham, perhaps that would be the best outcome to this sorry tale.[/p][/quote]We read the washing dirty or clean in the papers every day I don't think the club is hanging anything out.if what you say is true then MI hung his out when he said " Ex City Keeper", I wont loose any sleep over this one. bill bailey
  • Score: -2

4:50pm Tue 21 Jan 14

OLD - HEAD says...

RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
[quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people. OLD - HEAD
  • Score: 9

4:55pm Tue 21 Jan 14

born&breed says...

If other players in the squad reacted the same way when being dropped by the manager we would need a swing door - he should act like a true pro - what did Dan Parslow, Michael Coulson etc do when left out of the side - they made sure they trained hard and when they managed to get back in the side they performed to ensure they stay in the side. Michael Ingham (I have always said he was one of the best city keepers) but this season he has not performed as previous seasons, he says he's had issues off the field and this has affected his game - therefore he needs to look at himself and prove he's 100% fit and that his head is right. The goalkeeping coach must have a say - he works with Michael day in day out - he must talk to Nigel advising him of any problems and who is best for the match ahead. Michael's kicking and distribution this season has been poor, well below what is expected, he's also been seen playing to the crowd - is this the type of concentration you would expect from your keeper. Head down Michael, work hard and prove yourself.
If other players in the squad reacted the same way when being dropped by the manager we would need a swing door - he should act like a true pro - what did Dan Parslow, Michael Coulson etc do when left out of the side - they made sure they trained hard and when they managed to get back in the side they performed to ensure they stay in the side. Michael Ingham (I have always said he was one of the best city keepers) but this season he has not performed as previous seasons, he says he's had issues off the field and this has affected his game - therefore he needs to look at himself and prove he's 100% fit and that his head is right. The goalkeeping coach must have a say - he works with Michael day in day out - he must talk to Nigel advising him of any problems and who is best for the match ahead. Michael's kicking and distribution this season has been poor, well below what is expected, he's also been seen playing to the crowd - is this the type of concentration you would expect from your keeper. Head down Michael, work hard and prove yourself. born&breed
  • Score: 9

4:56pm Tue 21 Jan 14

dbrs88 says...

No story here.. banter taken too seriously.. MI = York City promotion winning legend. Shame he was dropped but I back him to bounce back. Tbh I think it was more to do with Charlton's loan terms, if I was them I wouldnt loan someone out to sit on a bench... Just saying.
No story here.. banter taken too seriously.. MI = York City promotion winning legend. Shame he was dropped but I back him to bounce back. Tbh I think it was more to do with Charlton's loan terms, if I was them I wouldnt loan someone out to sit on a bench... Just saying. dbrs88
  • Score: 5

5:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

T.R.M1974 says...

OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
[quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate T.R.M1974
  • Score: 11

5:33pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match.
For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate[/p][/quote]There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match. For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs bill bailey
  • Score: -3

5:39pm Tue 21 Jan 14

T.R.M1974 says...

bill bailey wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match.
For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs
This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate[/p][/quote]There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match. For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs[/p][/quote]This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions T.R.M1974
  • Score: 7

5:55pm Tue 21 Jan 14

goreds says...

Ingham's 'world class save ' against Morcambe (?) maybe kept NW in his job.
NW has got this wrong - Pope has n't shown me why he should be picked again ahead of Ingham.
As far as I am concerned Pope has had 2 games for City since he returned :
his first and his last !!
Ingham's 'world class save ' against Morcambe (?) maybe kept NW in his job. NW has got this wrong - Pope has n't shown me why he should be picked again ahead of Ingham. As far as I am concerned Pope has had 2 games for City since he returned : his first and his last !! goreds
  • Score: -4

6:48pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

wilson usain wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match.
For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs
This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions
Bill is as bad as McGill, in it purely for his own ego and self promotion!!!

Ingham is right to want out, better than playing on the Knavesmire when BC is built on and the white elephant never happens
What the devil are you talking about ??
[quote][p][bold]wilson usain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate[/p][/quote]There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match. For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs[/p][/quote]This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions[/p][/quote]Bill is as bad as McGill, in it purely for his own ego and self promotion!!! Ingham is right to want out, better than playing on the Knavesmire when BC is built on and the white elephant never happens[/p][/quote]What the devil are you talking about ?? bill bailey
  • Score: 3

6:49pm Tue 21 Jan 14

RooBeck says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
He did have an average game on Sunday 160510 but so did the whole of the City team - we never turned-up and we were bossed and bullied out of this game by a strong Oxford United side, who also had massive support. Matt Green, who scored a very good goal against us that afternoon/early evening, it was he who could have put our play-off hopes well and truly to bed on the evening of Wednesday 020512 at BC but for one player, who not only bravely(remember his header?) prevented him from scoring what might have been a "killer" goal by The Stags(making it 0-2) but (and I'm maybe been a bit cynical and un-sporting here), prevented the same, very good attacking player (now at Birmingham City), from having a real go at us at that memorable 2nd leg at the One Call Stadium on the afternoon of Monday 070512 and which may have ended up with us remaining in the BSBP. That player - Michael Ingham!!
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate[/p][/quote]He did have an average game on Sunday 160510 but so did the whole of the City team - we never turned-up and we were bossed and bullied out of this game by a strong Oxford United side, who also had massive support. Matt Green, who scored a very good goal against us that afternoon/early evening, it was he who could have put our play-off hopes well and truly to bed on the evening of Wednesday 020512 at BC but for one player, who not only bravely(remember his header?) prevented him from scoring what might have been a "killer" goal by The Stags(making it 0-2) but (and I'm maybe been a bit cynical and un-sporting here), prevented the same, very good attacking player (now at Birmingham City), from having a real go at us at that memorable 2nd leg at the One Call Stadium on the afternoon of Monday 070512 and which may have ended up with us remaining in the BSBP. That player - Michael Ingham!! RooBeck
  • Score: 4

7:18pm Tue 21 Jan 14

PhilR@Strike says...

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Very harsh (and kind of illogical) to drop him after a run of good performances and results - but NW is right that he just has to accept it and get on with reclaiming his place. I personally hope he does, as he's been a good keeper for us for many years and has proven (e.g. in the last few games) that he is good enough to play in the football league. Competition is great, but I hope it is a level playing field.
Agree. Personally hope he stays.
Too good a keeper to lose.
Come on Michael, pull out all the stops.
Keep doing what you're doing and prove the Manager wrong.
That'll be a Win Win for you and the Team!
[quote][p][bold]YorkCityLuke[/bold] wrote: Very harsh (and kind of illogical) to drop him after a run of good performances and results - but NW is right that he just has to accept it and get on with reclaiming his place. I personally hope he does, as he's been a good keeper for us for many years and has proven (e.g. in the last few games) that he is good enough to play in the football league. Competition is great, but I hope it is a level playing field.[/p][/quote]Agree. Personally hope he stays. Too good a keeper to lose. Come on Michael, pull out all the stops. Keep doing what you're doing and prove the Manager wrong. That'll be a Win Win for you and the Team! PhilR@Strike
  • Score: 7

7:21pm Tue 21 Jan 14

yorkiemike says...

I`ve read all the diatribe above about MI,and I am a fan of his but the bottom line is NW is the manager and he is closer to the players than any of us.
On the surface it looks harsh to drop Inghy but I back the manager because at the end of the day if we don`t get the results he will be the first to go!
I`ve read all the diatribe above about MI,and I am a fan of his but the bottom line is NW is the manager and he is closer to the players than any of us. On the surface it looks harsh to drop Inghy but I back the manager because at the end of the day if we don`t get the results he will be the first to go! yorkiemike
  • Score: 4

7:32pm Tue 21 Jan 14

cambersdad says...

RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
great post fully agree with you but would just like to add my two peneth worth, only saw the young keeper for the first time on saturday and was not overly impressed (although i won't be judging him on that one performance) thought bar a couple of good early dispatches to coulson in the second half i could not see what advantage he gave us, in the first half he looked all at sea and didn't seem to know or be aware of what was going on around him, i for one will certainaly like to see how he progresses over the next couple of games but i think ingham should keep his head down and his nose clean he might just be back in before he knows it
[quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]great post fully agree with you but would just like to add my two peneth worth, only saw the young keeper for the first time on saturday and was not overly impressed (although i won't be judging him on that one performance) thought bar a couple of good early dispatches to coulson in the second half i could not see what advantage he gave us, in the first half he looked all at sea and didn't seem to know or be aware of what was going on around him, i for one will certainaly like to see how he progresses over the next couple of games but i think ingham should keep his head down and his nose clean he might just be back in before he knows it cambersdad
  • Score: 6

7:51pm Tue 21 Jan 14

arsene.about.york says...

Managers are there to make decisions for the good of their club. I remember people criticising Sir Alex Ferguson when he got rid of Beckham, Ince, Neville to name just 3. No one criticises him now. If clubs don't make changes at the right time they stagnate, imagine if sentiment ruled we would probably still have Byrne and Mc phail running round with their zimmer frames. I have to admit I have never been Ingham's greatest fan, too much show boating for my liking but if this gets him out of his comfort zone he may still have a future here. It's up to him
Managers are there to make decisions for the good of their club. I remember people criticising Sir Alex Ferguson when he got rid of Beckham, Ince, Neville to name just 3. No one criticises him now. If clubs don't make changes at the right time they stagnate, imagine if sentiment ruled we would probably still have Byrne and Mc phail running round with their zimmer frames. I have to admit I have never been Ingham's greatest fan, too much show boating for my liking but if this gets him out of his comfort zone he may still have a future here. It's up to him arsene.about.york
  • Score: 9

7:56pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Peppa07 says...

Yes, all interesting discussion. 33 isn't young, but if a keeper stays fit he can play a good few years yet. Michael has been a great servant of the club and saved us on numerous occasions - but that's what keepers are paid to do! Everyone knows it's the most important - and most exposed - position on the park! My guess is he'll fight on and probably get his place back for one reason or another. But we also know he's not infallible; in fact, his command of the six yard box is sometimes poor; his strength is he's a great shot-stopper, which shows great reflexes (so he's plenty of playing days left for that reason alone). But his distribution is hopeless and has not improved, so given strengths and weaknesses, it's no surprise that he's under pressure. Pope did okay on Saturday but from what I saw he flapped or flailed at a couple of second half crosses - so there's hope there for Michael! Pope will face real tests over the next three games and then NW will have a decision to make...
Yes, all interesting discussion. 33 isn't young, but if a keeper stays fit he can play a good few years yet. Michael has been a great servant of the club and saved us on numerous occasions - but that's what keepers are paid to do! Everyone knows it's the most important - and most exposed - position on the park! My guess is he'll fight on and probably get his place back for one reason or another. But we also know he's not infallible; in fact, his command of the six yard box is sometimes poor; his strength is he's a great shot-stopper, which shows great reflexes (so he's plenty of playing days left for that reason alone). But his distribution is hopeless and has not improved, so given strengths and weaknesses, it's no surprise that he's under pressure. Pope did okay on Saturday but from what I saw he flapped or flailed at a couple of second half crosses - so there's hope there for Michael! Pope will face real tests over the next three games and then NW will have a decision to make... Peppa07
  • Score: 6

8:17pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Anysport says...

SethArmstrong wrote:
If Blair had scored the sitter at Northampton it would have been a different game and people would have been talking about an Ingham flap. He didn't so we haven't. But managers are paid to see to these things regardless. Maybe it's harsh, maybe it isn't, but if Worthington thinks it's right for the team going forward then i'm happy to back him on it.
Does that mean Ingham is back in at the weekend as Pope was flapping like a seagull several times against Bristol? Nope - and there is no point fighting for his position either as NW has made up his mind and if there is one thing he is, that's ruthless.
[quote][p][bold]SethArmstrong[/bold] wrote: If Blair had scored the sitter at Northampton it would have been a different game and people would have been talking about an Ingham flap. He didn't so we haven't. But managers are paid to see to these things regardless. Maybe it's harsh, maybe it isn't, but if Worthington thinks it's right for the team going forward then i'm happy to back him on it.[/p][/quote]Does that mean Ingham is back in at the weekend as Pope was flapping like a seagull several times against Bristol? Nope - and there is no point fighting for his position either as NW has made up his mind and if there is one thing he is, that's ruthless. Anysport
  • Score: -1

8:47pm Tue 21 Jan 14

sixtyfourfive says...

I believe Ingham has been very harshly treated and if he goes some people might then realise what a very good and consistent keeper he is at this level - not perfect or infallible but who is? I know it's only conjecture but I am convinced that Charlton are insisting on Pope starting - if he doesn't he may as well still be at Charlton.. As a City supporter I sincerely hope Pope is the real deal and does the business and shall certainly not judge him on one rather unsure performance I saw last Saturday. What I cannot understand are comments from some on this forum telling us now what a class act he is (I hope he does turn out to be!) and even one urging he be signed on a 2 and a half year deal now - surely too soon for that unless such posters have been watching him regularly for Charlton Reserves?
I believe Ingham has been very harshly treated and if he goes some people might then realise what a very good and consistent keeper he is at this level - not perfect or infallible but who is? I know it's only conjecture but I am convinced that Charlton are insisting on Pope starting - if he doesn't he may as well still be at Charlton.. As a City supporter I sincerely hope Pope is the real deal and does the business and shall certainly not judge him on one rather unsure performance I saw last Saturday. What I cannot understand are comments from some on this forum telling us now what a class act he is (I hope he does turn out to be!) and even one urging he be signed on a 2 and a half year deal now - surely too soon for that unless such posters have been watching him regularly for Charlton Reserves? sixtyfourfive
  • Score: 3

8:56pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Yorkieroy60 says...

Don't know what all the fuss is about we've got two good keepers that are part of an improved and stronger squad whichever one that gets the shirt should get our backing and let's get on with it and roar our team on to win football matches!-simples!
Don't know what all the fuss is about we've got two good keepers that are part of an improved and stronger squad whichever one that gets the shirt should get our backing and let's get on with it and roar our team on to win football matches!-simples! Yorkieroy60
  • Score: 9

9:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

Edsoni says...

T.R.M1974 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match. For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs
This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions
I've only seen Pope once and I'm not going to form an (unflattering) opinion on the basis of that performance. I'm sure he will improve.
Bill must be commended for taking the trouble to watch the Charlton third team if he's already seen enough to be offering a 2 year contract. How he fits in the time to walk the Knavesmire scouting with such time-consuming trips is beyond me. But fair play.

However TRM 1974 is right to mention the many who have the club at heart and therefore also care about the perceived treatment of someone we have an affinity for. Others have different views.
Pope could well be our long term solution. A while back I wondered here about the long term contract possibilities and maybe we'll see a Joe Hart/Shay Given situation developing - personally I hope at least short term it is Joe Hart/Pantilimon and that Michael gets back in. He's an adopted son of York and deserves to be treated as such. His care of a young supporter at half time epitomises his approach.
Anyone who thinks good practice is to disrespect employees doesn't know diddly squat but I rather think there are mountains/molehills and iclement weather in drink recepticles at play here.
But a story is a story...
[quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate[/p][/quote]There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match. For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs[/p][/quote]This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions[/p][/quote]I've only seen Pope once and I'm not going to form an (unflattering) opinion on the basis of that performance. I'm sure he will improve. Bill must be commended for taking the trouble to watch the Charlton third team if he's already seen enough to be offering a 2 year contract. How he fits in the time to walk the Knavesmire scouting with such time-consuming trips is beyond me. But fair play. However TRM 1974 is right to mention the many who have the club at heart and therefore also care about the perceived treatment of someone we have an affinity for. Others have different views. Pope could well be our long term solution. A while back I wondered here about the long term contract possibilities and maybe we'll see a Joe Hart/Shay Given situation developing - personally I hope at least short term it is Joe Hart/Pantilimon and that Michael gets back in. He's an adopted son of York and deserves to be treated as such. His care of a young supporter at half time epitomises his approach. Anyone who thinks good practice is to disrespect employees doesn't know diddly squat but I rather think there are mountains/molehills and iclement weather in drink recepticles at play here. But a story is a story... Edsoni
  • Score: 1

9:07pm Tue 21 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

sixtyfourfive wrote:
I believe Ingham has been very harshly treated and if he goes some people might then realise what a very good and consistent keeper he is at this level - not perfect or infallible but who is? I know it's only conjecture but I am convinced that Charlton are insisting on Pope starting - if he doesn't he may as well still be at Charlton.. As a City supporter I sincerely hope Pope is the real deal and does the business and shall certainly not judge him on one rather unsure performance I saw last Saturday. What I cannot understand are comments from some on this forum telling us now what a class act he is (I hope he does turn out to be!) and even one urging he be signed on a 2 and a half year deal now - surely too soon for that unless such posters have been watching him regularly for Charlton Reserves?
No I haven't seen him at Charlton I have asked a Coach at Crystal Palace what he thinks of him he said he has seen him about a dozen times over the last couple of years and he rates him highly Palace wanted him but Charlton wouldn't let him go there. That's the story from down there SFF.
[quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: I believe Ingham has been very harshly treated and if he goes some people might then realise what a very good and consistent keeper he is at this level - not perfect or infallible but who is? I know it's only conjecture but I am convinced that Charlton are insisting on Pope starting - if he doesn't he may as well still be at Charlton.. As a City supporter I sincerely hope Pope is the real deal and does the business and shall certainly not judge him on one rather unsure performance I saw last Saturday. What I cannot understand are comments from some on this forum telling us now what a class act he is (I hope he does turn out to be!) and even one urging he be signed on a 2 and a half year deal now - surely too soon for that unless such posters have been watching him regularly for Charlton Reserves?[/p][/quote]No I haven't seen him at Charlton I have asked a Coach at Crystal Palace what he thinks of him he said he has seen him about a dozen times over the last couple of years and he rates him highly Palace wanted him but Charlton wouldn't let him go there. That's the story from down there SFF. bill bailey
  • Score: 3

9:23pm Tue 21 Jan 14

openallhours says...

There's no doubt that Ingham is a City legend, but at times he's had a poor attitude towards his own fans and that's not acceptable (Chesterfield away this season springs to mind). As other posters have pointed out, there's been no competition for his shirt and he, just like the rest of the squad, needs to fight for their place. Spitting your dummy out won't get you very far I'm afraid.
There's no doubt that Ingham is a City legend, but at times he's had a poor attitude towards his own fans and that's not acceptable (Chesterfield away this season springs to mind). As other posters have pointed out, there's been no competition for his shirt and he, just like the rest of the squad, needs to fight for their place. Spitting your dummy out won't get you very far I'm afraid. openallhours
  • Score: 7

9:29pm Tue 21 Jan 14

henleazeyorkie says...

At the end of he day, since the Rovers Cup debacle, we've conceded 6 in 11 with a variety of keepers. Job done.

Defence sorted, midfield improved, attack capable - onwards and upwards...

I'll predict about 10th this season, then next season? There are a number of parallels between now and the early eighties And we all know what happened in 84....:-)
At the end of he day, since the Rovers Cup debacle, we've conceded 6 in 11 with a variety of keepers. Job done. Defence sorted, midfield improved, attack capable - onwards and upwards... I'll predict about 10th this season, then next season? There are a number of parallels between now and the early eighties And we all know what happened in 84....:-) henleazeyorkie
  • Score: 1

9:58pm Tue 21 Jan 14

uhtred says...

One.thing is now probable mm
One.thing is now probable mm uhtred
  • Score: 0

10:04pm Tue 21 Jan 14

henleazeyorkie says...

uhtred wrote:
One.thing is now probable mm
Well, someone's got to play the glass half full card. Mate, I'm old enough to know anything can happen and probably will from left field, but having seen some of the dross served up all those years ago it would be nice if history repeated - wouldn't it??
[quote][p][bold]uhtred[/bold] wrote: One.thing is now probable mm[/p][/quote]Well, someone's got to play the glass half full card. Mate, I'm old enough to know anything can happen and probably will from left field, but having seen some of the dross served up all those years ago it would be nice if history repeated - wouldn't it?? henleazeyorkie
  • Score: 1

7:52am Wed 22 Jan 14

uhtred says...

uhtred wrote:
One.thing is now probable mm
What I meant to say before I pressed the send button by mistake is that it is now probable that at the end of the season Ingham will go, Pope will return to Charlton and we will be left looking for a new keeper, but will struggle to find one better than Ingham. I have never seen Ingham have a poor game, the odd mistake yes but never a poor game throughout. He is not old for a keeper by any means. His frustration is understandable, fair enough if he had been playing badly but he hasn't and he has a good understanding with his defence. I can only think NW has given undertakings to Pope to get him back. We may come to regret this strange decision if Pope does not live up to some peoples expectations base on 3 games, for me it is too early to judge his abilities.
OK Ingham made a misjudgement in voicing his frustration on twitter and he possibly now regrets that, but he has been hard done by in this instance.
[quote][p][bold]uhtred[/bold] wrote: One.thing is now probable mm[/p][/quote]What I meant to say before I pressed the send button by mistake is that it is now probable that at the end of the season Ingham will go, Pope will return to Charlton and we will be left looking for a new keeper, but will struggle to find one better than Ingham. I have never seen Ingham have a poor game, the odd mistake yes but never a poor game throughout. He is not old for a keeper by any means. His frustration is understandable, fair enough if he had been playing badly but he hasn't and he has a good understanding with his defence. I can only think NW has given undertakings to Pope to get him back. We may come to regret this strange decision if Pope does not live up to some peoples expectations base on 3 games, for me it is too early to judge his abilities. OK Ingham made a misjudgement in voicing his frustration on twitter and he possibly now regrets that, but he has been hard done by in this instance. uhtred
  • Score: 10

11:52am Wed 22 Jan 14

born&breed says...

wilson usain wrote:
City will never be what they were with the likes of McGill , NW in charge. Down the pan within 2 years.

Bill Bailey is really Douggie Craig in a different name.
The Chairman/Board and Nigel Worthington have made a number of decisions for York City since the sacking of Gary Mills - the decisions are for the good of the Club. People posted on here that the players who put us back into the League were not good enough - get rid and replace. Nigel had ten games to assess the players he inherited - some played out of their skins for the ten games hence they were offered a new short term contract.
As we know the first ten games or so this season they have not stepped up to the plate and therefore loan players were brought in. The Chairman said 'come the New Year money will be made available'. To his word Nigel has made what I believe are excellent signings. He has also moved out a couple of the Wembley squad - who played well towards the end of last season and helped keep us in the League. the players brought in are on longer term contacts - building for the future. None of us know exactly what has gone on but no one player is bigger than the Club and is automatically first name on the team sheet. Chris Smith - the last ten games under Nigel earned him an extra years contract - many believe he should have been shown the door - but that guy was excellent and fought for our League status. He's now out of the side, was on the bench on Saturday and like a true pro is fighting for his place. At the end of the season he will move on - I for one will shake his hand as I have with Ashley, Blair and the others of that Wembley squad and say thank you. We need players who want to play for City and are proud to wear the shirt - showing passion and commitment - Michael swallow your disappointment - show us your passion and commitment to get back into the side. Dave McGurk a fine pro - sat out most of last season - given the chance and is now outstanding every game - just proves what can be achieved - he has shown his passion and commitment to the Club. no one likes to see players leave but we all appreciate how they perform week in week out on the field. A dip in form, loss of fitness will see changes - Michael Coulson excellent pro - just trained hard and got in the face of the manager and is now an important part of the side - Ashley would not have left if Coulson had not stepped up to the plate, he would have gone I'm sure. THE TEAM COMES FIRST
[quote][p][bold]wilson usain[/bold] wrote: City will never be what they were with the likes of McGill , NW in charge. Down the pan within 2 years. Bill Bailey is really Douggie Craig in a different name.[/p][/quote]The Chairman/Board and Nigel Worthington have made a number of decisions for York City since the sacking of Gary Mills - the decisions are for the good of the Club. People posted on here that the players who put us back into the League were not good enough - get rid and replace. Nigel had ten games to assess the players he inherited - some played out of their skins for the ten games hence they were offered a new short term contract. As we know the first ten games or so this season they have not stepped up to the plate and therefore loan players were brought in. The Chairman said 'come the New Year money will be made available'. To his word Nigel has made what I believe are excellent signings. He has also moved out a couple of the Wembley squad - who played well towards the end of last season and helped keep us in the League. the players brought in are on longer term contacts - building for the future. None of us know exactly what has gone on but no one player is bigger than the Club and is automatically first name on the team sheet. Chris Smith - the last ten games under Nigel earned him an extra years contract - many believe he should have been shown the door - but that guy was excellent and fought for our League status. He's now out of the side, was on the bench on Saturday and like a true pro is fighting for his place. At the end of the season he will move on - I for one will shake his hand as I have with Ashley, Blair and the others of that Wembley squad and say thank you. We need players who want to play for City and are proud to wear the shirt - showing passion and commitment - Michael swallow your disappointment - show us your passion and commitment to get back into the side. Dave McGurk a fine pro - sat out most of last season - given the chance and is now outstanding every game - just proves what can be achieved - he has shown his passion and commitment to the Club. no one likes to see players leave but we all appreciate how they perform week in week out on the field. A dip in form, loss of fitness will see changes - Michael Coulson excellent pro - just trained hard and got in the face of the manager and is now an important part of the side - Ashley would not have left if Coulson had not stepped up to the plate, he would have gone I'm sure. THE TEAM COMES FIRST born&breed
  • Score: 10

12:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

uhtred says...

There are 4 main reasons for dropping any player:-

He is out of form
There is a demonstrably better player to replace him in his position
For team tactical reasons (probably only applies to outfield players)Disciplinary issues

Not sure any of the above apply to Ingham
There are 4 main reasons for dropping any player:- He is out of form There is a demonstrably better player to replace him in his position For team tactical reasons (probably only applies to outfield players)Disciplinary issues Not sure any of the above apply to Ingham uhtred
  • Score: 1

12:18pm Wed 22 Jan 14

YoRkIe59 says...

i dont know about bill bailey been dougie in disguise i think you are Wilson.it sounds like you long for the good ole days of dougie when for the most part we seemed ok whilst he was plotting the end of our great club.
i dont know about bill bailey been dougie in disguise i think you are Wilson.it sounds like you long for the good ole days of dougie when for the most part we seemed ok whilst he was plotting the end of our great club. YoRkIe59
  • Score: 0

4:55pm Wed 22 Jan 14

A Bottom says...

wilson usain wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
T.R.M1974 wrote:
OLD - HEAD wrote:
RooBeck wrote:
Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.
Well said - "RooBeck".
When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.
Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate
There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match.
For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs
This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions
Bill is as bad as McGill, in it purely for his own ego and self promotion!!!

Ingham is right to want out, better than playing on the Knavesmire when BC is built on and the white elephant never happens
Your a troll foll de roll, blah blah blah!!
[quote][p][bold]wilson usain[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]T.R.M1974[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OLD - HEAD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RooBeck[/bold] wrote: Not too long ago that NW was backing MI for another call-up to the NI international set-up and the vast majority of City fans and club officials, were backing him to soon beat the great Tommy Forgan's record of clean-sheets for the club! Also, don't we employ a goalkeeping coach - has he had input and if so, what has this been for NW to act in such an incisive manner? What has gone wrong for him now to be sat on the subs bench, after one outstanding and two very good performances since New Year and a history of very good service for us, especially in that all important 2011-12 season? Underpinning this, is an excellent fitness record and a keeper who looks like he could go on at this level, for another 3/4 years, so lets not risk him departing and losing all that experience/ability. Using this selection criteria, does this mean that the outstanding Dave McGurk could be next to make way to a new NW signing who is currently waiting in the wings - can't see a great deal of difference with the MI situation? Maybe, now is not the time for this to drag along and we must support and back Nick Pope and get right behind the team for the Hartlepool/Chesterfi eld/Fleetwood games but this is a two-way valve and unless there are some behind the scene reasons, then, Michael Ingham , on this occasion, can rightly question where the loyalty and support is towards him from the management/coaching staff and some fans. COYR.[/p][/quote]Well said - "RooBeck". When I was at Luton and Mansfield in our great promotion season, and it was Citys turn to defend the hostile "home end". Michael Ingham stood out like a giant under severe pressure. But some fans seem to have very short memories. You are only as good as your last apearance to some people.[/p][/quote]Do you remember the play off final against Oxford when he went AWOL? You say people have short memories i think you have selective. The thing with Ingham is if he was playing well this season we would not be having this debate[/p][/quote]There are more important things in life than if MI plays or not., I'm more concerned how my grandson plays at Man City tonight in an under 12s match. For goodness sake he's over 30 coming to end of what has been a good life in football its coming to an end sooner than later people on here are beating themselves up over something they have no control because The Piper Calls The Tune, I would like to see Pope signed on a contract and be ours for the next 21/2 yrs[/p][/quote]This is the thing Bill were fans with the club at heart you just like people hear your oppinions[/p][/quote]Bill is as bad as McGill, in it purely for his own ego and self promotion!!! Ingham is right to want out, better than playing on the Knavesmire when BC is built on and the white elephant never happens[/p][/quote]Your a troll foll de roll, blah blah blah!! A Bottom
  • Score: 2

1:01pm Thu 23 Jan 14

duffy says...

It's a sad troll, ignore him.
It's a sad troll, ignore him. duffy
  • Score: 0

2:32pm Thu 23 Jan 14

yorkiemike says...

Disgraceful comments about the McGills.Presumably the people making these comments know the Sheik of Tang Hall and the Maharajah of Acomb who will come along and pump millions into our Club!
The McGills saved York City and the whole family are steeped in York City F.C.They have to run their own business as well as YCFC but they live,sleep and eat York City and we wouldn`t have had a club without their help.
Of course they`ve made mistakes but they`ve admitted them and learned from them.The Chairman and board have made some brave decisions over the last couple of years and come in for criticism but they have stood firm.
IMO we are lucky to have the McGills and long may they reign.People who make these stupid remarks annoy me,they need to get in the real world and realise that running a small football club like ours is not a big money making venture.
Hands off the McGills and support the Club and if you can`t do that then shut up.Constuctive comments are fine but not the rubbish said about the McGills.
Disgraceful comments about the McGills.Presumably the people making these comments know the Sheik of Tang Hall and the Maharajah of Acomb who will come along and pump millions into our Club! The McGills saved York City and the whole family are steeped in York City F.C.They have to run their own business as well as YCFC but they live,sleep and eat York City and we wouldn`t have had a club without their help. Of course they`ve made mistakes but they`ve admitted them and learned from them.The Chairman and board have made some brave decisions over the last couple of years and come in for criticism but they have stood firm. IMO we are lucky to have the McGills and long may they reign.People who make these stupid remarks annoy me,they need to get in the real world and realise that running a small football club like ours is not a big money making venture. Hands off the McGills and support the Club and if you can`t do that then shut up.Constuctive comments are fine but not the rubbish said about the McGills. yorkiemike
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