York City boss heaps praise on shot-stopper Michael Ingham

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NIGEL WORTHINGTON heaped praise on goalkeeper Michael Ingham after his string of saves earned York City a first win in 12 matches.

The long-serving City net-minder, making his first appearance since mid-November due to a hip flexor problem, kept Morecambe at bay as Worthington’s team kicked off 2014 with a 1-0 home victory.

Ryan Jarvis was the goal hero after netting on the half-hour mark but, by that time, Ingham had already been called into action several times after receiving a recall, ahead of schedule, due to on-loan Wolves shot-stopper Aaron McCarey being struck down by a virus.

City boss Worthington said: “Michael Ingham stepped back in and was very, very good. With Aaron McCarey going down ill, we put Michael in a bit ahead of when we should have done but his kicking was excellent, along with his handling and decision making.

“We were under a bit of pressure in the first half but Michael saved one or two and it was good to have him back. He then made an outstanding save in the second half from a diving header.”

Jarvis was replaced just after the hour with a hamstring injury but Worthington is hoping the damage will not prove too serious, adding: “He felt his hamstring two or three times.

“We don’t think he has pulled it and it seems like more of a tightening of the muscle, but we should know more in the next 24 hours.”

The welcome win moved City two places up the League Two table and opened up a three-point gap on second-bottom Torquay.

Delivering his post-match verdict, Worthington said: “The win has been a long time coming but we managed the game quite well after getting the goal.

“We saw the game through and had a go at winning by more goals, while keeping our shape. We were very mindful at half-time of the need not to sit back and rest on our laurels at 1-0 so we raised the tempo more as the game went on and, when we do that, we’re not a bad side.”

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Along with Ingham for McCarey, Worthington made two further changes to the side that started Sunday’s 2-1 defeat at Bury with Michael Coulson replacing Josh Carson and Jarvis returning in place of Ryan Bowman.

The City chief is now hoping Carson will benefit from a rest, explaining: “We left Josh out, not because of an indifferent display in his last match, but because we wanted to give him a little breather and refresh him.”

Along with Jarvis’ injury, another minor negative for City was a ninth yellow card of the campaign for midfield enforcer Lewis Montrose, who is now just one caution away from incurring a two-match suspension.

Worthington, though, is loathe to give Montrose instructions to tone down his approach, reasoning: “He competes very well and you don’t want to take too much away from his game.

“He could get no bookings by making no challenges or getting in close but that takes away from the team’s performance too. We know what he can do and he was very strong against Morecambe.

“He was neat and tidy on the ball and competitive in the air. When he plays like that, he’s a big plus for us.”

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12:46pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Some old bloke says...

I thought there was an amnesty for bookings at the end of December, or does that only apply to five bookings? Anyone know?
I thought there was an amnesty for bookings at the end of December, or does that only apply to five bookings? Anyone know? Some old bloke

1:22pm Thu 2 Jan 14

brahma says...

Some old bloke wrote:
I thought there was an amnesty for bookings at the end of December, or does that only apply to five bookings? Anyone know?
2 sanctions: first for getting 5 sanctions before January, second for getting 10 by April. Bookings from the first count towards the second.
[quote][p][bold]Some old bloke[/bold] wrote: I thought there was an amnesty for bookings at the end of December, or does that only apply to five bookings? Anyone know?[/p][/quote]2 sanctions: first for getting 5 sanctions before January, second for getting 10 by April. Bookings from the first count towards the second. brahma

1:23pm Thu 2 Jan 14

brahma says...

brahma wrote:
Some old bloke wrote:
I thought there was an amnesty for bookings at the end of December, or does that only apply to five bookings? Anyone know?
2 sanctions: first for getting 5 sanctions before January, second for getting 10 by April. Bookings from the first count towards the second.
*5 bookings
[quote][p][bold]brahma[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Some old bloke[/bold] wrote: I thought there was an amnesty for bookings at the end of December, or does that only apply to five bookings? Anyone know?[/p][/quote]2 sanctions: first for getting 5 sanctions before January, second for getting 10 by April. Bookings from the first count towards the second.[/p][/quote]*5 bookings brahma

2:06pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Mike the fish says...

I see McCarey has been recalled early by Wolves due to an injury to one of their other keepers. Was due to return after Saturday anyway. Won't be a problem if Ingham keeps up the fantastic form he showed on Wednesday - was my Man of the Match - but it makes sense to have a sub keeper on the bench when you can name seven subs.
I see McCarey has been recalled early by Wolves due to an injury to one of their other keepers. Was due to return after Saturday anyway. Won't be a problem if Ingham keeps up the fantastic form he showed on Wednesday - was my Man of the Match - but it makes sense to have a sub keeper on the bench when you can name seven subs. Mike the fish

2:36pm Thu 2 Jan 14

tips says...

Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career . tips

3:18pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
[quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net. bill bailey

3:19pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
[quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net. bill bailey

3:35pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pip007 says...

Mike the fish wrote:
I see McCarey has been recalled early by Wolves due to an injury to one of their other keepers. Was due to return after Saturday anyway. Won't be a problem if Ingham keeps up the fantastic form he showed on Wednesday - was my Man of the Match - but it makes sense to have a sub keeper on the bench when you can name seven subs.
I always worry when the keeper is the man of the match. I'd much rather he had 'nowt to do all game. Usually the sign of a crap defence.
[quote][p][bold]Mike the fish[/bold] wrote: I see McCarey has been recalled early by Wolves due to an injury to one of their other keepers. Was due to return after Saturday anyway. Won't be a problem if Ingham keeps up the fantastic form he showed on Wednesday - was my Man of the Match - but it makes sense to have a sub keeper on the bench when you can name seven subs.[/p][/quote]I always worry when the keeper is the man of the match. I'd much rather he had 'nowt to do all game. Usually the sign of a crap defence. pip007

3:39pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pip007 says...

bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager. pip007

3:58pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.[/p][/quote]Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out. bill bailey

4:30pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pip007 says...

bill bailey wrote:
pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.
The operative word being 'expectation'. You'll find Yeti in the dictionary but it doesn't mean it's real.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.[/p][/quote]Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.[/p][/quote]The operative word being 'expectation'. You'll find Yeti in the dictionary but it doesn't mean it's real. pip007

4:58pm Thu 2 Jan 14

pip007 says...

bill bailey wrote:
pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.
I'm more than happy to defer to your experience regarding 1950s football, but having taught statistical analysis at Oxford I can assure you that the so-called ‘law of averages’ is not a real statistical principle. Why does it matter? Because we don't want our manager or chairman assuming that because we’ve had a run of bad luck we are inevitably due a run of good luck, or that luck will even itself out ‘on average’ over the season (which, by the way, I don't expect for one minute they do believe). In any event, ‘law of averages’ (even it was real) has got nothing to do with your notion of finding a reserve keeper in Sunday league football, unless you are suggesting that if we scour the Sunday matches for long enough we will eventually unearth some talent. You could well be right about that, and we should definitely have scouts out there watching the young lads – but that’s not the ‘law of averages’.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.[/p][/quote]Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.[/p][/quote]I'm more than happy to defer to your experience regarding 1950s football, but having taught statistical analysis at Oxford I can assure you that the so-called ‘law of averages’ is not a real statistical principle. Why does it matter? Because we don't want our manager or chairman assuming that because we’ve had a run of bad luck we are inevitably due a run of good luck, or that luck will even itself out ‘on average’ over the season (which, by the way, I don't expect for one minute they do believe). In any event, ‘law of averages’ (even it was real) has got nothing to do with your notion of finding a reserve keeper in Sunday league football, unless you are suggesting that if we scour the Sunday matches for long enough we will eventually unearth some talent. You could well be right about that, and we should definitely have scouts out there watching the young lads – but that’s not the ‘law of averages’. pip007

5:23pm Thu 2 Jan 14

nigthepig says...

Oh dear, this is all becoming a bit like a school lesson. Law of averages or not, we just need York City to get a few more wins behind them.
Oh dear, this is all becoming a bit like a school lesson. Law of averages or not, we just need York City to get a few more wins behind them. nigthepig

6:26pm Thu 2 Jan 14

nudger says...

To return to the subject of goalkeepers,Ben Alnwick returned for Charlton yesterday relegating Ben Hamer to the bench and hopefully Nick Pope out on loan again.
Also interesting to see that Alan Knill has been sacked by Torquay today. Dropping into the bottom two certainly gets the Boardroom sphincters twitching in this division. Rumour has it that Martin Allan will get the nod at Sixfields. John Ward is also said to have had a vote of confidence at Rovers which is usually an ominous sign.
To return to the subject of goalkeepers,Ben Alnwick returned for Charlton yesterday relegating Ben Hamer to the bench and hopefully Nick Pope out on loan again. Also interesting to see that Alan Knill has been sacked by Torquay today. Dropping into the bottom two certainly gets the Boardroom sphincters twitching in this division. Rumour has it that Martin Allan will get the nod at Sixfields. John Ward is also said to have had a vote of confidence at Rovers which is usually an ominous sign. nudger

6:32pm Thu 2 Jan 14

OLD - HEAD says...

Michael Ingham fully justified his selection, his saves probably saved us from going 0-2 down, before we actually scored our goal. His late save from Redshaws header ensured that we got the full three points. Ingham would have definately been my man of the match. Heard a whisper today that Pope could be on his way back to City from Charlton Athletic.
Michael Ingham fully justified his selection, his saves probably saved us from going 0-2 down, before we actually scored our goal. His late save from Redshaws header ensured that we got the full three points. Ingham would have definately been my man of the match. Heard a whisper today that Pope could be on his way back to City from Charlton Athletic. OLD - HEAD

6:46pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.
The operative word being 'expectation'. You'll find Yeti in the dictionary but it doesn't mean it's real.
Don't be s silly. you seem to be somebody that wants the last word . you can but your still in the hole.and shouting for help
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.[/p][/quote]Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.[/p][/quote]The operative word being 'expectation'. You'll find Yeti in the dictionary but it doesn't mean it's real.[/p][/quote]Don't be s silly. you seem to be somebody that wants the last word . you can but your still in the hole.and shouting for help bill bailey

6:52pm Thu 2 Jan 14

15ronaldo says...

Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting
Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting 15ronaldo

7:52pm Thu 2 Jan 14

chuckabuttie says...

15ronaldo wrote:
Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting
Seems an experienced pro at this level. Wonder if Lowe is instrumental in this? Either that or, if this is indeed a goer, Cheltenham may be developing into our Feeder club
[quote][p][bold]15ronaldo[/bold] wrote: Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting[/p][/quote]Seems an experienced pro at this level. Wonder if Lowe is instrumental in this? Either that or, if this is indeed a goer, Cheltenham may be developing into our Feeder club chuckabuttie

8:13pm Thu 2 Jan 14

big boy york says...

see scunthorpe are building a new 18,000 seater stadium bet thats built before ours & 18,000 for scunthorpe sound very ambitious as they average the same as us, puts us in the shade dont it shows where there dreams lie unlike ours 6,000 for a city 2/3 times bigger what a joke
see scunthorpe are building a new 18,000 seater stadium bet thats built before ours & 18,000 for scunthorpe sound very ambitious as they average the same as us, puts us in the shade dont it shows where there dreams lie unlike ours 6,000 for a city 2/3 times bigger what a joke big boy york

8:22pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

big boy york wrote:
see scunthorpe are building a new 18,000 seater stadium bet thats built before ours & 18,000 for scunthorpe sound very ambitious as they average the same as us, puts us in the shade dont it shows where there dreams lie unlike ours 6,000 for a city 2/3 times bigger what a joke
POPE IS RETURNING FROM CHARLTON AS KEEPER COVER.
[quote][p][bold]big boy york[/bold] wrote: see scunthorpe are building a new 18,000 seater stadium bet thats built before ours & 18,000 for scunthorpe sound very ambitious as they average the same as us, puts us in the shade dont it shows where there dreams lie unlike ours 6,000 for a city 2/3 times bigger what a joke[/p][/quote]POPE IS RETURNING FROM CHARLTON AS KEEPER COVER. bill bailey

8:28pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

SOME CLUB HAS PUT IN AN OFFER FOR , LIAM BOYCE HE PLAYS FOR CLIFTONVILLE , N IRELAND. POLIFIC GOAL SCORER 6ft 2in
22yrs old I wonder
SOME CLUB HAS PUT IN AN OFFER FOR , LIAM BOYCE HE PLAYS FOR CLIFTONVILLE , N IRELAND. POLIFIC GOAL SCORER 6ft 2in 22yrs old I wonder bill bailey

8:37pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

chuckabuttie wrote:
15ronaldo wrote:
Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting
Seems an experienced pro at this level. Wonder if Lowe is instrumental in this? Either that or, if this is indeed a goer, Cheltenham may be developing into our Feeder club
He hasn't played since the beginning of November for the first team.Wheels in Wheels .
Just posted Goalkeeper POPE coming back.thats GOOD NEWS.
[quote][p][bold]chuckabuttie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]15ronaldo[/bold] wrote: Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting[/p][/quote]Seems an experienced pro at this level. Wonder if Lowe is instrumental in this? Either that or, if this is indeed a goer, Cheltenham may be developing into our Feeder club[/p][/quote]He hasn't played since the beginning of November for the first team.Wheels in Wheels . Just posted Goalkeeper POPE coming back.thats GOOD NEWS. bill bailey

8:38pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Southern Exile says...

chuckabuttie wrote:
15ronaldo wrote:
Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting
Seems an experienced pro at this level. Wonder if Lowe is instrumental in this? Either that or, if this is indeed a goer, Cheltenham may be developing into our Feeder club
Seems to have some weight this one, they are looking at some targets and need to offload before they can bring anyone in, interesting, very experienced and was their captain back end of last year, could be a good signing, played well against us when I've seen him...
[quote][p][bold]chuckabuttie[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]15ronaldo[/bold] wrote: Something totally unrelated now according to the local Cheltenham paper York are interested in signing midfielder Russell Penn and have put in a offer on the table. Interesting[/p][/quote]Seems an experienced pro at this level. Wonder if Lowe is instrumental in this? Either that or, if this is indeed a goer, Cheltenham may be developing into our Feeder club[/p][/quote]Seems to have some weight this one, they are looking at some targets and need to offload before they can bring anyone in, interesting, very experienced and was their captain back end of last year, could be a good signing, played well against us when I've seen him... Southern Exile

10:01pm Thu 2 Jan 14

openallhours says...

pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.
I'm more than happy to defer to your experience regarding 1950s football, but having taught statistical analysis at Oxford I can assure you that the so-called ‘law of averages’ is not a real statistical principle. Why does it matter? Because we don't want our manager or chairman assuming that because we’ve had a run of bad luck we are inevitably due a run of good luck, or that luck will even itself out ‘on average’ over the season (which, by the way, I don't expect for one minute they do believe). In any event, ‘law of averages’ (even it was real) has got nothing to do with your notion of finding a reserve keeper in Sunday league football, unless you are suggesting that if we scour the Sunday matches for long enough we will eventually unearth some talent. You could well be right about that, and we should definitely have scouts out there watching the young lads – but that’s not the ‘law of averages’.
Thanks for the lecture about 'the law of averages'. I'm sure that Bill and all of the posters on this forum will feel enriched by this new found knowledge, especially as it's been delivered by an Oxford don.
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.[/p][/quote]Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.[/p][/quote]I'm more than happy to defer to your experience regarding 1950s football, but having taught statistical analysis at Oxford I can assure you that the so-called ‘law of averages’ is not a real statistical principle. Why does it matter? Because we don't want our manager or chairman assuming that because we’ve had a run of bad luck we are inevitably due a run of good luck, or that luck will even itself out ‘on average’ over the season (which, by the way, I don't expect for one minute they do believe). In any event, ‘law of averages’ (even it was real) has got nothing to do with your notion of finding a reserve keeper in Sunday league football, unless you are suggesting that if we scour the Sunday matches for long enough we will eventually unearth some talent. You could well be right about that, and we should definitely have scouts out there watching the young lads – but that’s not the ‘law of averages’.[/p][/quote]Thanks for the lecture about 'the law of averages'. I'm sure that Bill and all of the posters on this forum will feel enriched by this new found knowledge, especially as it's been delivered by an Oxford don. openallhours

10:27pm Thu 2 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

I'M not lecturing anyone . if 007 had looked at his dictionary instead of thinking there wasn't such a term " Law of Averages" non of this need have been an on going saga, Therefore thank you so much for elevating to a University Don this I will treasure as it was bestowed by an intellect such as you.
I'M not lecturing anyone . if 007 had looked at his dictionary instead of thinking there wasn't such a term " Law of Averages" non of this need have been an on going saga, Therefore thank you so much for elevating to a University Don this I will treasure as it was bestowed by an intellect such as you. bill bailey

10:19am Fri 3 Jan 14

Yorkie41 says...

bill bailey wrote:
I'M not lecturing anyone . if 007 had looked at his dictionary instead of thinking there wasn't such a term " Law of Averages" non of this need have been an on going saga, Therefore thank you so much for elevating to a University Don this I will treasure as it was bestowed by an intellect such as you.
Happy New Year Bill and all, nice to see a good healthy argument, I love reading these comments I find them very educational even at my age.
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I'M not lecturing anyone . if 007 had looked at his dictionary instead of thinking there wasn't such a term " Law of Averages" non of this need have been an on going saga, Therefore thank you so much for elevating to a University Don this I will treasure as it was bestowed by an intellect such as you.[/p][/quote]Happy New Year Bill and all, nice to see a good healthy argument, I love reading these comments I find them very educational even at my age. Yorkie41

3:24pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
pip007 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
tips wrote:
Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period.
Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .
TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE
guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking
for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them)
we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.
I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.
Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.
I'm more than happy to defer to your experience regarding 1950s football, but having taught statistical analysis at Oxford I can assure you that the so-called ‘law of averages’ is not a real statistical principle. Why does it matter? Because we don't want our manager or chairman assuming that because we’ve had a run of bad luck we are inevitably due a run of good luck, or that luck will even itself out ‘on average’ over the season (which, by the way, I don't expect for one minute they do believe). In any event, ‘law of averages’ (even it was real) has got nothing to do with your notion of finding a reserve keeper in Sunday league football, unless you are suggesting that if we scour the Sunday matches for long enough we will eventually unearth some talent. You could well be right about that, and we should definitely have scouts out there watching the young lads – but that’s not the ‘law of averages’.
I'm sure this subject will bore many on here , But i draw your attention to the following. The Statistical Principle was Formulated by JAKOB BERNOULLI.
Thus is an accepted term in all ENGLISH DICTIONARYS , It forms the basis as applied in INDUSTRIAL ENGINEERING ( Time and motion study . Method study) .Therefore it appears to me you don't have to be tutor in statistical analysis at Oxford to be right , But i went to he University of Life.
[quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pip007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tips[/bold] wrote: Michael Ingham has come in for a lot of criticism this season but yesterday he showed what an excellent keeper he is and has been for City over a long period. Let us hope he can keep many more clean sheets in his City career .[/p][/quote]TOTALY AGREE tips, AS FOR A COVER FOR HIM. I'm a LAW of AVERAGE guy. When I was playing in LONDON there was an area known as The Hackney Marshes,1000s of acres nothing but football pitches every pitch full on a Saturday and Sunday and scouts were there in there hundreds looking for talent they came from miles around. The point I want to make is I have seen games around York on a Sunday morning and there is some good players in these team including keepers I sure with so many teams around the area there must be a keeper who could step in if he had some coaching by the club, with the Agents taking a big part in the game ( Not that i'm a fan of them) we don't use scouts as much as we did in my day therefore good players slip through the net.[/p][/quote]I don't see how this has anything to do with 'law of averages' (there's no such things as the law of averages by the way). Your comments are always interesting Bill, but I'm sure as hell glad you're not the City manager.[/p][/quote]Let me quote you from COLLINS DICTIONARY . The expectation that a possible event is bound to occur regularly with a frequency approximating in its probability. Don't dig youself a hole next time , if you do make sure you can get out.[/p][/quote]I'm more than happy to defer to your experience regarding 1950s football, but having taught statistical analysis at Oxford I can assure you that the so-called ‘law of averages’ is not a real statistical principle. Why does it matter? Because we don't want our manager or chairman assuming that because we’ve had a run of bad luck we are inevitably due a run of good luck, or that luck will even itself out ‘on average’ over the season (which, by the way, I don't expect for one minute they do believe). In any event, ‘law of averages’ (even it was real) has got nothing to do with your notion of finding a reserve keeper in Sunday league football, unless you are suggesting that if we scour the Sunday matches for long enough we will eventually unearth some talent. You could well be right about that, and we should definitely have scouts out there watching the young lads – but that’s not the ‘law of averages’.[/p][/quote]I'm sure this subject will bore many on here , But i draw your attention to the following. The Statistical Principle was Formulated by JAKOB BERNOULLI. Thus is an accepted term in all ENGLISH DICTIONARYS , It forms the basis as applied in INDUSTRIAL ENGINEERING ( Time and motion study . Method study) .Therefore it appears to me you don't have to be tutor in statistical analysis at Oxford to be right , But i went to he University of Life. bill bailey

3:43pm Fri 3 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

Yorkie41 wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
I'M not lecturing anyone . if 007 had looked at his dictionary instead of thinking there wasn't such a term " Law of Averages" non of this need have been an on going saga, Therefore thank you so much for elevating to a University Don this I will treasure as it was bestowed by an intellect such as you.
Happy New Year Bill and all, nice to see a good healthy argument, I love reading these comments I find them very educational even at my age.
A VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY 2014 to you Yorkie . Yep sometimes, just sometimes, we get it right even at our age, nice chatting to you many more I hope we might even chat about football who knows. BE LUCKY.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: I'M not lecturing anyone . if 007 had looked at his dictionary instead of thinking there wasn't such a term " Law of Averages" non of this need have been an on going saga, Therefore thank you so much for elevating to a University Don this I will treasure as it was bestowed by an intellect such as you.[/p][/quote]Happy New Year Bill and all, nice to see a good healthy argument, I love reading these comments I find them very educational even at my age.[/p][/quote]A VERY HAPPY AND HEALTHY 2014 to you Yorkie . Yep sometimes, just sometimes, we get it right even at our age, nice chatting to you many more I hope we might even chat about football who knows. BE LUCKY. bill bailey

11:18am Sat 4 Jan 14

Peppa07 says...

The article was all about Ingham having had a great game. The thread that followed was as tedious as any I've ever read on here. Now lets focus on getting three points today!
The article was all about Ingham having had a great game. The thread that followed was as tedious as any I've ever read on here. Now lets focus on getting three points today! Peppa07

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