Mills backs York City to end winless run

First published in Sport York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Sports reporter

YORK City manager Gary Mills is backing his team to end their ten-game winless run after a 94th-minute equaliser denied them a first victory since New Year’s Day at Rotherham United.

Daniel Nardiello’s injury-time strike cancelled out Matty Blair’s earlier second-half effort to leave the Minstermen just four points above the npower League Two relegation zone.

But Mills is confident that his team will pull clear of the bottom two if they reproduce the form they showed at the Millers’ New York Stadium last night.

The City boss said: “We all want that win but it wasn’t to be.

“It’s a hard one to take but, if we keep performing like that, it’s got to come.

“Football is about winning and we haven’t won enough but I don’t want anybody to be down.

“We’ve got to take a lot of heart from last night’s performance.

“We’ve not had it easy over the last ten games but we will keep believing in how we play, which I think is the right way.

“I know if we play like we did against Rotherham that we will get the points to make sure we are playing in this division next season.”

On his team’s performance, Mills added: “We worked hard at Oxford and I felt we surpassed that last night.

“Our shape, quality and discipline was excellent.

“You wondered with the run we are on whether what happened might happen when the board went up with five minutes and there were a few things we could have done better for their goal but it’s another draw away from home and, maybe, we would have taken that before the game but I thought we were different class to Rotherham.

“We were playing against a team that bang it forward and you have to deal with the second balls and the back four were outstanding in that respect.”

Blair was also on the scoresheet for the first time since New Year’s Day and Mills has been pleased with his return to an attacking midfield role, saying: “That position suits him with his energy.

“He got in on two occasions and we could have picked out some of his other runs as well.”

Results elsewhere went against City, with Barnet beating Southend 2-0, Accrington winning 3-0 at Rochdale and AFC Wimbledon drawing 1-1 with Plymouth.

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1:50pm Wed 27 Feb 13

TerryYork says...

Brilliant performance last night. We'll be ok.
Brilliant performance last night. We'll be ok. TerryYork
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2:30pm Wed 27 Feb 13

york city fc says...

TerryYork wrote:
Brilliant performance last night. We'll be ok.
I hope so- seems like the *** was very keen to book York's players. Rotherham Manager very critical of York- Gary Mills sounds very positive- would love to know more about the match.
[quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: Brilliant performance last night. We'll be ok.[/p][/quote]I hope so- seems like the *** was very keen to book York's players. Rotherham Manager very critical of York- Gary Mills sounds very positive- would love to know more about the match. york city fc
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4:35pm Wed 27 Feb 13

joejamestom says...

Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!!
Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!! joejamestom
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4:55pm Wed 27 Feb 13

goreds says...

Ref added on 5 minutes when there had been no stoppages !
I think he was on a one man crusade to cut out time wasting , which he took up every time City had a free kick or throw in .
Most biased Ref this season.
City 100% again -hope they turn up on saturday !
Ref added on 5 minutes when there had been no stoppages ! I think he was on a one man crusade to cut out time wasting , which he took up every time City had a free kick or throw in . Most biased Ref this season. City 100% again -hope they turn up on saturday ! goreds
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5:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ian923 says...

We seem to play better against the better teams. No doubt the ground will be immaculate and well rolled for Saturday against Bradford who are a good team.Looking forward to it and hope the players are up for this one because we are in desperate need of 3( That's THREE!) points.Should be a big gate as Bradford will bring a lot and a good atmosphere.Please get behind the players and show support as I will be.Come on City!
We seem to play better against the better teams. No doubt the ground will be immaculate and well rolled for Saturday against Bradford who are a good team.Looking forward to it and hope the players are up for this one because we are in desperate need of 3( That's THREE!) points.Should be a big gate as Bradford will bring a lot and a good atmosphere.Please get behind the players and show support as I will be.Come on City! ian923
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5:04pm Wed 27 Feb 13

ian923 says...

We seem to play better against the better teams. No doubt the ground will be immaculate and well rolled for Saturday against Bradford who are a good team.Looking forward to it and hope the players are up for this one because we are in desperate need of 3( That's THREE!) points.Should be a big gate as Bradford will bring a lot and a good atmosphere.Please get behind the players and show support as I will be.Come on City!
We seem to play better against the better teams. No doubt the ground will be immaculate and well rolled for Saturday against Bradford who are a good team.Looking forward to it and hope the players are up for this one because we are in desperate need of 3( That's THREE!) points.Should be a big gate as Bradford will bring a lot and a good atmosphere.Please get behind the players and show support as I will be.Come on City! ian923
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5:09pm Wed 27 Feb 13

bartsimmo says...

joejamestom wrote:
Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!!
I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser
[quote][p][bold]joejamestom[/bold] wrote: Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!![/p][/quote]I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser bartsimmo
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7:26pm Wed 27 Feb 13

Colin Allcars says...

That's right, plus the referee repeatedly warned York players about delaying tactics and the goal celebration took towards 2 minutes alone. All in all a sweet equaliser after York made 3 separate substitutions in 9 minutes to wind down the clock. If York hadn't blatantly time wasted, the game would have ended at 0-1!
That's right, plus the referee repeatedly warned York players about delaying tactics and the goal celebration took towards 2 minutes alone. All in all a sweet equaliser after York made 3 separate substitutions in 9 minutes to wind down the clock. If York hadn't blatantly time wasted, the game would have ended at 0-1! Colin Allcars
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8:16pm Wed 27 Feb 13

long distance depressive says...

Despite the late goal it was a decent result. I hope nobody takes any notice of Evans who is a total embarrassment to foobtall in all respects. Would like see Blair running the Bradford defence down the right wing given their full back issues.
Despite the late goal it was a decent result. I hope nobody takes any notice of Evans who is a total embarrassment to foobtall in all respects. Would like see Blair running the Bradford defence down the right wing given their full back issues. long distance depressive
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8:25pm Wed 27 Feb 13

You're Fired says...

bartsimmo wrote:
joejamestom wrote:
Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!!
I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser
I think YOU'LL find that two of the subs were made at the same time and there was only one goal prior to the board going up, with the 2nd coming in the 93rd minute. So that's 4 subs = 2 minutes, 1 goal = 30seconds and 1 yellow card = 30seconds. A total of....erm....just let me get my abacus out.....THREE MINUTES! I'm not saying we wouldn't have let a goal in but seeing as though you were trying to be clever I thought I'd provide a box for you to get back in, in you pop ;)
[quote][p][bold]bartsimmo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joejamestom[/bold] wrote: Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!![/p][/quote]I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser[/p][/quote]I think YOU'LL find that two of the subs were made at the same time and there was only one goal prior to the board going up, with the 2nd coming in the 93rd minute. So that's 4 subs = 2 minutes, 1 goal = 30seconds and 1 yellow card = 30seconds. A total of....erm....just let me get my abacus out.....THREE MINUTES! I'm not saying we wouldn't have let a goal in but seeing as though you were trying to be clever I thought I'd provide a box for you to get back in, in you pop ;) You're Fired
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9:42pm Wed 27 Feb 13

skilly says...

12 points is what we need to see us safe IMO. Lets start on saturday, need that sort of performance against Bradford, they drew tonight and I think they will be physically & mentally tired after the past few days, lets take the game to them. COYR
12 points is what we need to see us safe IMO. Lets start on saturday, need that sort of performance against Bradford, they drew tonight and I think they will be physically & mentally tired after the past few days, lets take the game to them. COYR skilly
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10:54pm Wed 27 Feb 13

gazlan says...

city put in the best team performance i hav eseen this season and were unlucky to get the result we were all looking for. Mills was visibly gutted. Were could easily have had three last night and some of the offside decisions seemed very questionable. Mills gave the excellent support an extended thankyou last night.
Fantastic stadium btw; should be a benchmark for Monks Cross - some chance. Lets do again on Saturday.
city put in the best team performance i hav eseen this season and were unlucky to get the result we were all looking for. Mills was visibly gutted. Were could easily have had three last night and some of the offside decisions seemed very questionable. Mills gave the excellent support an extended thankyou last night. Fantastic stadium btw; should be a benchmark for Monks Cross - some chance. Lets do again on Saturday. gazlan
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8:17am Thu 28 Feb 13

brahma says...

skilly wrote:
12 points is what we need to see us safe IMO. Lets start on saturday, need that sort of performance against Bradford, they drew tonight and I think they will be physically & mentally tired after the past few days, lets take the game to them. COYR
I cannot agree with your conclusions here Skilly. I know it looks very congested in the lower half of the table, with 9 pts between 15th and 24th, but no team in the past 20 years has finished in the bottom two with 50 or more points.

In fact out of 40 teams to finish in those positions in that time only two had as many as 49 points and just one had 48 points.

Also, there are numerous 6 pointers still in the fixture list and not everyone can win them all. e.g. We have 5 games against teams below us and two against teams 2 points above us.

Accrington still have Torquay, Barnet, Wimbledon, City and Bristol.

Barnet have Plymouth Winbledon and Torquay.

Wimbledon have Accrington, Barnet, City, Aldershot and Bristol etc etc.

I think 46 will be enough based on current circs and historical precedence.
[quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: 12 points is what we need to see us safe IMO. Lets start on saturday, need that sort of performance against Bradford, they drew tonight and I think they will be physically & mentally tired after the past few days, lets take the game to them. COYR[/p][/quote]I cannot agree with your conclusions here Skilly. I know it looks very congested in the lower half of the table, with 9 pts between 15th and 24th, but no team in the past 20 years has finished in the bottom two with 50 or more points. In fact out of 40 teams to finish in those positions in that time only two had as many as 49 points and just one had 48 points. Also, there are numerous 6 pointers still in the fixture list and not everyone can win them all. e.g. We have 5 games against teams below us and two against teams 2 points above us. Accrington still have Torquay, Barnet, Wimbledon, City and Bristol. Barnet have Plymouth Winbledon and Torquay. Wimbledon have Accrington, Barnet, City, Aldershot and Bristol etc etc. I think 46 will be enough based on current circs and historical precedence. brahma
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10:25am Thu 28 Feb 13

andyjon12 says...

skilly wrote:
12 points is what we need to see us safe IMO. Lets start on saturday, need that sort of performance against Bradford, they drew tonight and I think they will be physically & mentally tired after the past few days, lets take the game to them. COYR
WE only need 7 or 8 points not 12!
[quote][p][bold]skilly[/bold] wrote: 12 points is what we need to see us safe IMO. Lets start on saturday, need that sort of performance against Bradford, they drew tonight and I think they will be physically & mentally tired after the past few days, lets take the game to them. COYR[/p][/quote]WE only need 7 or 8 points not 12! andyjon12
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10:33am Thu 28 Feb 13

Phil, Leeds says...

Another decent away point and performance. However, the facts are we are now 2 points closer to the drop places than we were before Tuesday's games. Also, we're the only Club in League 2 who have failed to win any of the last 10 games and only Torquay have fewer points in that period than City. And of the 7 Clubs below us, 6 have a game in hand. We need to win a home game pretty damned soon but to do that we need to score - we can't expect the defence to keep a clean sheet every game.
Another decent away point and performance. However, the facts are we are now 2 points closer to the drop places than we were before Tuesday's games. Also, we're the only Club in League 2 who have failed to win any of the last 10 games and only Torquay have fewer points in that period than City. And of the 7 Clubs below us, 6 have a game in hand. We need to win a home game pretty damned soon but to do that we need to score - we can't expect the defence to keep a clean sheet every game. Phil, Leeds
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11:04am Thu 28 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it). openallhours
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11:10am Thu 28 Feb 13

Tug job says...

openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself. Tug job
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11:31am Thu 28 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.
We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).
[quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.[/p][/quote]We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity). openallhours
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12:44pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Edsoni says...

openallhours wrote:
Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.
We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).
Isn't that a kind of intellectual apartheid?
You'll only respond to someone within the same band of intelligence.

It seems exclusive.
I think you'll be quiet for a long time.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.[/p][/quote]We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).[/p][/quote]Isn't that a kind of intellectual apartheid? You'll only respond to someone within the same band of intelligence. It seems exclusive. I think you'll be quiet for a long time. Edsoni
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12:45pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Edsoni says...

Edsoni wrote:
openallhours wrote:
Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.
We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).
Isn't that a kind of intellectual apartheid? You'll only respond to someone within the same band of intelligence. It seems exclusive. I think you'll be quiet for a long time.
Unless the kindergarten start posting!
LOL!
[quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.[/p][/quote]We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).[/p][/quote]Isn't that a kind of intellectual apartheid? You'll only respond to someone within the same band of intelligence. It seems exclusive. I think you'll be quiet for a long time.[/p][/quote]Unless the kindergarten start posting! LOL! Edsoni
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1:00pm Thu 28 Feb 13

YorkCityLuke says...

openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
You'll never apologise for your lack of faith in this team, so don't even start with that. You were harping on about how poor we are towards the end of last season too, and I don't remember you being particularly contrite when we got promoted/ won the trophy (although I don't remember seeing you post as much - very odd). Any reasonable thinking human who actually supports York City will be joining Gary Mills in celebrating a scrappy, ugly 17th place finish.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]You'll never apologise for your lack of faith in this team, so don't even start with that. You were harping on about how poor we are towards the end of last season too, and I don't remember you being particularly contrite when we got promoted/ won the trophy (although I don't remember seeing you post as much - very odd). Any reasonable thinking human who actually supports York City will be joining Gary Mills in celebrating a scrappy, ugly 17th place finish. YorkCityLuke
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1:22pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Tug job says...

openallhours wrote:
Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.
We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).
Good, stick to that, there's a good lad!
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.[/p][/quote]We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).[/p][/quote]Good, stick to that, there's a good lad! Tug job
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1:23pm Thu 28 Feb 13

uhtred says...

Edsoni wrote:
Edsoni wrote:
openallhours wrote:
Tug job wrote:
openallhours wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.
We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).
Isn't that a kind of intellectual apartheid? You'll only respond to someone within the same band of intelligence. It seems exclusive. I think you'll be quiet for a long time.
Unless the kindergarten start posting! LOL!
That's an insult to the Kindergarten! :-)
[quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Edsoni[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tug job[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]But it's not all about you, is it? Get over yourself.[/p][/quote]We clearly disagree on how we view things so why keep responding to my posts? This is the last time I'll be responding to yours (and others with a similar mental capacity).[/p][/quote]Isn't that a kind of intellectual apartheid? You'll only respond to someone within the same band of intelligence. It seems exclusive. I think you'll be quiet for a long time.[/p][/quote]Unless the kindergarten start posting! LOL![/p][/quote]That's an insult to the Kindergarten! :-) uhtred
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1:37pm Thu 28 Feb 13

heartbreaker says...

openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
This is correct. Also anyone who said they would have been happy with 17th (some people saying they are happy with 22nd??!) at the start of the season is a liar! I'd take that now but it will still be classed as a poor season.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]This is correct. Also anyone who said they would have been happy with 17th (some people saying they are happy with 22nd??!) at the start of the season is a liar! I'd take that now but it will still be classed as a poor season. heartbreaker
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1:38pm Thu 28 Feb 13

yorkviking says...

openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work?

Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.
[quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work? Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly. yorkviking
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3:35pm Thu 28 Feb 13

kirbylad says...

I dont want to be a killjoy but i think mills will stick with his missfiring forwards to the end of the season yes draws at oxford and rotherham were good but with rankine playing instead of coming on for lasf 2 or 3 mins we could have won both matches.gary mills needs reminding how close he was to being sacked and change the strikers as the teams below us are catching us up.
I dont want to be a killjoy but i think mills will stick with his missfiring forwards to the end of the season yes draws at oxford and rotherham were good but with rankine playing instead of coming on for lasf 2 or 3 mins we could have won both matches.gary mills needs reminding how close he was to being sacked and change the strikers as the teams below us are catching us up. kirbylad
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3:59pm Thu 28 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

yorkviking wrote:
openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work?

Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.
Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys,
turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside
forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1
[quote][p][bold]yorkviking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work? Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.[/p][/quote]Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys, turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1 bill bailey
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4:31pm Thu 28 Feb 13

goreds says...

kirbylad wrote:
I dont want to be a killjoy but i think mills will stick with his missfiring forwards to the end of the season yes draws at oxford and rotherham were good but with rankine playing instead of coming on for lasf 2 or 3 mins we could have won both matches.gary mills needs reminding how close he was to being sacked and change the strikers as the teams below us are catching us up.
IMO Walker is a better header f a ball than Rankine, let alone passing ,dribbling and even holding the ball up. Michael looks like a footballer but thats deceptive.
He's useful as a shock sub giving us a different appearance.but not for 90 mins.
Walker seems to lie too deep ,presumably on instruction , but if he was given the all out striker role I am sure he'd be back to his previous best ,banging them in for fun.
[quote][p][bold]kirbylad[/bold] wrote: I dont want to be a killjoy but i think mills will stick with his missfiring forwards to the end of the season yes draws at oxford and rotherham were good but with rankine playing instead of coming on for lasf 2 or 3 mins we could have won both matches.gary mills needs reminding how close he was to being sacked and change the strikers as the teams below us are catching us up.[/p][/quote]IMO Walker is a better header f a ball than Rankine, let alone passing ,dribbling and even holding the ball up. Michael looks like a footballer but thats deceptive. He's useful as a shock sub giving us a different appearance.but not for 90 mins. Walker seems to lie too deep ,presumably on instruction , but if he was given the all out striker role I am sure he'd be back to his previous best ,banging them in for fun. goreds
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4:49pm Thu 28 Feb 13

PositiveFootball says...

It would be great if all City supporters show a unified front on Saturday. Chanting always comes from the right side of the Longhurst - we need to get some noise generated from the whole of the Longhurst, Main Stand and the Pop Stand. How about a chorus of Red Army starting at 5 to 3? I am sure the flag guys will be there as well. Let's create a great atmosphere and be Citys12th man!
It would be great if all City supporters show a unified front on Saturday. Chanting always comes from the right side of the Longhurst - we need to get some noise generated from the whole of the Longhurst, Main Stand and the Pop Stand. How about a chorus of Red Army starting at 5 to 3? I am sure the flag guys will be there as well. Let's create a great atmosphere and be Citys12th man! PositiveFootball
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6:21pm Thu 28 Feb 13

kirbylad says...

walker is not good enough as main striker look at stats how many shots on target some games none 9 gls include 3 pens average lge 2 striker 15 gls top 3 24 to 28 gls.time for wake up call.
walker is not good enough as main striker look at stats how many shots on target some games none 9 gls include 3 pens average lge 2 striker 15 gls top 3 24 to 28 gls.time for wake up call. kirbylad
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8:42pm Thu 28 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

bill bailey wrote:
yorkviking wrote:
openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work?

Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.
Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys,
turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside
forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1
And as I have asked before have you actually seen City play this season - or indeed ever?
[quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkviking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work? Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.[/p][/quote]Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys, turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1[/p][/quote]And as I have asked before have you actually seen City play this season - or indeed ever? sixtyfourfive
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8:55pm Thu 28 Feb 13

bill bailey says...

sixtyfourfive wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
yorkviking wrote:
openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work?

Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.
Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys,
turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside
forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1
And as I have asked before have you actually seen City play this season - or indeed ever?
THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION YES,
[quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkviking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work? Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.[/p][/quote]Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys, turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1[/p][/quote]And as I have asked before have you actually seen City play this season - or indeed ever?[/p][/quote]THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION YES, bill bailey
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8:56pm Thu 28 Feb 13

sixtyfourfive says...

sixtyfourfive wrote:
bill bailey wrote:
yorkviking wrote:
openallhours wrote:
Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come.

To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job.

I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).
That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work?

Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.
Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys,
turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside
forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1
And as I have asked before have you actually seen City play this season - or indeed ever?
And PS - I wonder why all the current top coaches have not cottoned on to this. You have obviously missed your vocation and a fortune!! Get real!
[quote][p][bold]sixtyfourfive[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bill bailey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkviking[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]openallhours[/bold] wrote: Even if we stay up, the damage has been done thanks to Mills. Too many home defeats (and draws), too many tactical blunders, too many players played out of position and in the wrong formation, too many poor signings, no cup runs, a clueless management team, terrible attitude towards the fans and the inability to take the blame has seen lots of fans no longer wanting to come. To also state that a 17th place finish would give cause for a Champagne celebration is an insult to all decent people who go to work every day and do a good job. I'll take it all back if we have a strong finish to the end of the season and I'll also apologise, but I saw all of this coming a long time ago (and I've had a lot of stick for it).[/p][/quote]That is one of the most ridiculous posts I've ever seen on here. Where do you expect us to finish in our 1st season back in the football league? We've had a limited budget this year, we can't attract the same level of player as the big hitters or clubs that have been here while, the squad is still mostly the one that got us up. And 'a clueless management team'? Do us a favour, the same management team minus Lyttle that got us up and took us to Wembley twice. Are you by any chance a football manager player? What is the correct formation, then? 4-4-2? You cannot play short passing attractive football in a 4-4-2, fact, every team that plays short football at this level and at the top (swansea, barca) play with more men in the centre of the park, not just 2 like there would be in a 4-4-2. All you need is a basic knowledge of tactics to realise this, yet people like you clearly don't have that. Maybe you play hoofball on football manager and have never considered how to succeed by playing it along the ground?? And apparently being pleased with staying in the league is 'an insult to the people who go to work and do a good job'...blimey, so just because supporters work we should be in the playoffs and doing well every season? Have you not realised that the fans of every other club in the country also do 'a good job' and work? Openallhours should be the next manager, clearly.[/p][/quote]Im not looking for a verbal fight,but i have made this point before,people can say all sorts of rubbish about 4,4,3. 4,2,4, but the first thing you have to get right is,are the players you have good enough, the important point is,start at the back.keeper 6ft 2in + two good full backs fast good tacklers,a tall center back who can win the ball in the air and on the ground,a good starter of moves.each side of him are the engine room boys, turning nothing into something,two fast wingers that can hit balls over to a 6ft6in centre forward,then two inside forwards any size who can pick up the loose balls and score.if what i have written rings any bells,you may remember England won the World cup in 1966 playing this way,we have won bu@@er all since.what makes all the people on here keep talking so much rubbish,it beats me !!1[/p][/quote]And as I have asked before have you actually seen City play this season - or indeed ever?[/p][/quote]And PS - I wonder why all the current top coaches have not cottoned on to this. You have obviously missed your vocation and a fortune!! Get real! sixtyfourfive
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10:28pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Colin Allcars says...

You're Fired wrote:
bartsimmo wrote:
joejamestom wrote:
Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!!
I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser
I think YOU'LL find that two of the subs were made at the same time and there was only one goal prior to the board going up, with the 2nd coming in the 93rd minute. So that's 4 subs = 2 minutes, 1 goal = 30seconds and 1 yellow card = 30seconds. A total of....erm....just let me get my abacus out.....THREE MINUTES! I'm not saying we wouldn't have let a goal in but seeing as though you were trying to be clever I thought I'd provide a box for you to get back in, in you pop ;)
Sorry, york made 3 separate substitutions after the 80th minute, one just as Rotherham were about to take a free, so delayin the game even further. The referee warned York about time wasting several times, Rotherham made two seperate substitutions and York celebrated their goal for close on 2 minutes. The ref would have added three minutes as an average, but York's timewasting tactics meant more time added on and their own behaviour created the time for Rotherham to equalise!
[quote][p][bold]You're Fired[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bartsimmo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joejamestom[/bold] wrote: Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!![/p][/quote]I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser[/p][/quote]I think YOU'LL find that two of the subs were made at the same time and there was only one goal prior to the board going up, with the 2nd coming in the 93rd minute. So that's 4 subs = 2 minutes, 1 goal = 30seconds and 1 yellow card = 30seconds. A total of....erm....just let me get my abacus out.....THREE MINUTES! I'm not saying we wouldn't have let a goal in but seeing as though you were trying to be clever I thought I'd provide a box for you to get back in, in you pop ;)[/p][/quote]Sorry, york made 3 separate substitutions after the 80th minute, one just as Rotherham were about to take a free, so delayin the game even further. The referee warned York about time wasting several times, Rotherham made two seperate substitutions and York celebrated their goal for close on 2 minutes. The ref would have added three minutes as an average, but York's timewasting tactics meant more time added on and their own behaviour created the time for Rotherham to equalise! Colin Allcars
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10:43pm Thu 28 Feb 13

duffy says...

Colin Allcars wrote:
You're Fired wrote:
bartsimmo wrote:
joejamestom wrote:
Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!!
I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser
I think YOU'LL find that two of the subs were made at the same time and there was only one goal prior to the board going up, with the 2nd coming in the 93rd minute. So that's 4 subs = 2 minutes, 1 goal = 30seconds and 1 yellow card = 30seconds. A total of....erm....just let me get my abacus out.....THREE MINUTES! I'm not saying we wouldn't have let a goal in but seeing as though you were trying to be clever I thought I'd provide a box for you to get back in, in you pop ;)
Sorry, york made 3 separate substitutions after the 80th minute, one just as Rotherham were about to take a free, so delayin the game even further. The referee warned York about time wasting several times, Rotherham made two seperate substitutions and York celebrated their goal for close on 2 minutes. The ref would have added three minutes as an average, but York's timewasting tactics meant more time added on and their own behaviour created the time for Rotherham to equalise!
I'm guessing Evans had spent so long berating the officials from the touch line as usual they probably just caved in to the pressure. Lets be honest he's been getting away with it for years.
[quote][p][bold]Colin Allcars[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]You're Fired[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bartsimmo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]joejamestom[/bold] wrote: Rotherhams manager a total @%$£ pot & an embarassment to their cub & the lovely stadium, quite where the ref got 5 min from lord only knows, good pitch for a change shame we engaged in a bit too much head tennis to take real advantage of it. Cmon City!!![/p][/quote]I think you will find with two goals and 6 substitutions that warrants 4 minutes of injury time alone in accordance with the laws of the game. So really there is only one minute extra in question so I am sure that is a fair allocation of time even if we do feel hard done by by a late equaliser[/p][/quote]I think YOU'LL find that two of the subs were made at the same time and there was only one goal prior to the board going up, with the 2nd coming in the 93rd minute. So that's 4 subs = 2 minutes, 1 goal = 30seconds and 1 yellow card = 30seconds. A total of....erm....just let me get my abacus out.....THREE MINUTES! I'm not saying we wouldn't have let a goal in but seeing as though you were trying to be clever I thought I'd provide a box for you to get back in, in you pop ;)[/p][/quote]Sorry, york made 3 separate substitutions after the 80th minute, one just as Rotherham were about to take a free, so delayin the game even further. The referee warned York about time wasting several times, Rotherham made two seperate substitutions and York celebrated their goal for close on 2 minutes. The ref would have added three minutes as an average, but York's timewasting tactics meant more time added on and their own behaviour created the time for Rotherham to equalise![/p][/quote]I'm guessing Evans had spent so long berating the officials from the touch line as usual they probably just caved in to the pressure. Lets be honest he's been getting away with it for years. duffy
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5:58pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Colin Allcars says...

according to the Independent, Evans is a much more subdued character, despite the perception that his reputation has led to officials giving 50/50's to his opponents almost routinely.
according to the Independent, Evans is a much more subdued character, despite the perception that his reputation has led to officials giving 50/50's to his opponents almost routinely. Colin Allcars
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