Results have to improve quickly, declare York City board (From York Press)

Wind Mills wrote:
Nice to see the board have finally come out and made a statement about the teams current poor form.

The way I read that is, Mills needs a result on Saturday or its bye bye.

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.

PositiveFootball wrote:

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.

Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.

Wind Mills wrote:

PositiveFootball wrote:

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.

Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.

So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down?

Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that.

Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up.

I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City

Wind Mills wrote:

PositiveFootball wrote:

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.

Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.

So you would rather we play pretty football and we go down?

Pretty football doesnt always win you matches, Arsenal are proof of that.

Wouldnt it better to adapt our tatics or formation to win matches and stay up.

I am a sensible supporter but find it very difficult to get behind what Gary is trying to achieve, when it threatens the survival of my beloved York City

AndyK wrote:
So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.

PositiveFootball wrote:

Head of Bomber Command wrote:
Some of the under performing players should also shoulder much of the blame, not just Gary Mills. One of the problems is we have been spoilt with some of the lovely football Gary Mills has had the team playing for near on two years.
He has hit a bad run of form which really is the first time it has happened since he arrived at the club. I hope he can see it through and lead us onto a top seven slot next season. I like how he want's the team to play, he and not just the team need support and encouragement. Not castigating.

Hit the nail on the head! As supporters we have to take the rough with the smooth. I would much rather see City trying to play attractive football than watch the negative stuff that a lot of teams play in this league. The majority of sensible supporters realise this and are 100% behind what Gary Mills is trying to accomplish.

THETELLEROFTALES wrote:
I don't want Gary Mills to be sacked. I also don't expct him to walk away from the club.
He wants his team to play 4-3-3. Well ok, he's the manager so thats his choice.
Does 4-3-3- actually work at Div 2 level?
Well.yes. A number of teams play this way.
There is very broad assumption that all pro footballers can adapt to any style/method of play. this is wildly inaccurate in my opinion.
Has Gary Mills got a squad of players who can successfully play 4-3-3? The answer would seem to be he hasn't...and that's the big problem. The players themselves are not good enough...and if Captain Smith plays, York will almost certainly concede one goal which means they have to score 2 to get the 3 points...hence the number of draw and 'big points won' thisseason.

Put another way...right now it's a real mess. I just hope Gay Mills sorts it out and drops those players who are obviously struggling at this level and who simply are not suited to 4-3-3.

openallhours wrote:

AndyK wrote:
So an interesting quote from the board. We will see. However, IMO I feel that GM's relationship with many supporters is very strained now. His attitude is all wrong and I for one feel insulted by his actions and words over the past few weeks and days. In other words he has lost my respect and I am thinking do I really want to go to another match this season. I'm not sure yet. I have supported the club since 1968 and will continue to do so. If I pay my money I expect the manager to respect the opinions of many supporters. I do want GM to get the sack, but I do want to see 442 and a change of approach that might help us win a few games. If GM gets sacked he has mainly him self to blame and also those players who have let him down recently. I wish you well for Saturday GM and the team.

Very well put - happy clappers take note!

nearlyman wrote:
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them

YoRkIe59 wrote:
its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.

YCFC115 wrote:

YoRkIe59 wrote:
its pretty crazy to say lets get to the end of the season and see where we are,if where we are is in the bottom two it could kill the club.my main concern it talk of Mills having lost the respect of the players i really hope that isn,t true because that would be the biggest problem in turning results round.Strange tho isnt it how often a team can be doing nothing a caretaker manager comes in and suddenly they are getting results.That isnt a Gary Mills must be sacked right now call by the way,just an observation.plenty of the people who are now expressing concerns about Mills and the team don,t want him sacked just want him to stop being so dammed stubborn,we need wins right now and tho i appreciate it being against the way he likes to play football,we need to win if that means winning ugly and playing the football thats more attractive do it when we are safe.

Stop on.

His stance sends out completely the wrong message to the Board, players, fans and opposition. He obviously thinks he is untouchable.

Every manager must learn how to win ugly and to change the formation depending upon the opponents and conditions. Mills is either very naive or just plain stupid.

Maybe, just maybe a more experienced football league manager is needed to get us out of this mess, the biggest fear is that Mills goes and Jason gives the job to Torpey on the cheap. That would be the final nail in the coffin.

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)

duffy wrote:

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)

I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:

duffy wrote:

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:
The more I think about it, the more I feel for Mills. Don't get me wrong I hate his attitude on changing the system and his dodgey substitutions etc. but you can't blame him for fyfield's inability to make a 10 yard pass, Blair has been a fraction of the player he was last year, Chambers is good one week and nonexistent the next. When you look at the squad and consider the amount of players that have played at this level and shown they can hack it probably goes some way to explaining our position. I think it's a hard job for whoever takes it (if GM goes that is)

I would also though argue that he made the decision to give Fyfield a new contract when a few of us were pointing out he was not good enough, only one small part of a pretty awfull season but Mills has to take some blame for decisions like that.

Oh yeah don't get me wrong I'm not saying mills is blame free in all this. My point really was that when Mills goes its like the players have gotten away with their poor performances. Whether we play 4-4-2, 4-3-3 or whatever, if the strikers aren't good enough to get the goals, if the midfield can't create enough chances to compensate for poor finishing or get a few themselves, or the defence make error after error leading to goals, surely the formation is irrelevant? The players need to do their jobs, when playing 4-4-2 strikers still need to score, midfielders need to create and the defence needs to be able to go a game without gifting the opposition a goal. Frustrates me that when Mills goes all the players like performances will be excused cos after all we were playing 4-3-3 rather than 4-4-2

Southern Exile wrote:
Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?

DesLytlle'sCoolerBox wrote:

Southern Exile wrote:
Doesn't the manager sign, select and motivate the players?

So all this is Mills' fault then one way or another and when we get another manager in we'll all see how much of a brilliant squad we've got and we'll really push on? If the players play s*** then that's the way it is

YCFC am byth wrote:

nearlyman wrote:
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them

Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed

Mad for Minstermen wrote:

YCFC am byth wrote:

nearlyman wrote:
Mills should just say up yours you impatient and ungrateful lot. there has been More success recently than for ages, attractive football is played more often than not. And now we hit a harder league and a little low point as much down to the players ineptitude all the headless chickens start having panic attacks. Get behind them for goodness sake theend of the season is the time to decide whether or not to stick with mills.no one else, even if the clubcould afford it will make a blindest difference to the situation. Leave manager sacking to the idiot chairman of Chelsea ,.....look where it's got them

Agreed nearlyman. a good summary indeed

Complete rhubarb, if we get relegated its too late then to sack the manager, look at Brass. Re Chelsea, great example, they are in the premier league vying for trophies every year and winning some we can't even dream of. Go back to the land of nod cos you were obviously dreaming!