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Bullock and Reed on their way out of York City?
12:00pm Wednesday 6th February 2013 in Sport
By Dave Flett, Sports reporter
Jamie Reed
JAMIE Reed and Lee Bullock are still expected to leave York City before the end of the season.
The pair were both made available for transfer at their own request prior to last week’s deadline for permanent moves.
But the transfer window closed without either player leaving Bootham Crescent.
Reed was subsequently an unused substitute during Saturday’s 4-1 home defeat to Morecambe while Bullock failed to make the matchday squad of 18 and City boss Gary Mills has revealed that both players could now depart during the loan window, which reopens tomorrow.
“Nothing has changed on that front,” Mills said on the situations of Reed and Bullock.
“Both players have expressed that they want to get out and play games and are expressing that all the time.
“That’s a difficult situation for a manager when that’s the case. I could stop them going anywhere but I want total commitment to York City.
“I think that’s important in the remaining months of this season and we need it from everybody. Speaking from experience, if players want to go then it’s maybe for the best that they do.”
City currently have 26 professionals on their books, although Ashley Chambers, Michael Coulson, Lanre Oyebanjo and Chris Doig remain sidelined by injury, with Mills adding that he could bolster his ranks further in the loan market.
He said: “When the window opens for loans, I will look at the situation and, if I feel I need to bring somebody in to strengthen us, I will do.
“We have to start picking up results and, hopefully, that will start at Wycombe on Saturday.”
One possible target is 20-year-old Newcastle midfielder Michael Richardson who is currently being monitored by the Minstermen.
Richardson spent a month on loan at Leyton Orient last season and could join City on a similar basis. “He’s someone we’ve been looking at and have shown a bit of interest in but I don’t know whether it will happen,” Mills confirmed.
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Comments(55)
class of 84
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1:12pm Wed 6 Feb 13
paddymacwakey
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1:53pm Wed 6 Feb 13
paddymacwakey
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1:53pm Wed 6 Feb 13
1968expat
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1:59pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Head of Bomber Command
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2:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13
1968expat wrote:Yes I agree you have gone crazy expat on the comparison between the two. Can't mention Reedy in the sae breath as Big Keith.
I feel that Reid is not that different from Keith Walwyn, some people will probably think I have gone crazy, but everyone has got their own opinions. Walwyn never had a great first touch. But boy could he finish. I think same applies to Reid. If he goes then he has my very best wishes. But I fear Mr, Mills has made a another very grave mistake.
But I do agree the lad know's where the back of the onion bag is.
OLD - HEAD
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2:29pm Wed 6 Feb 13
redbluelion
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2:33pm Wed 6 Feb 13
AndyK
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2:47pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Like many other York City supporters, I remain completely perplexed by the manager's unwillingness not to give the lad a chance this season. Its no good picking him for one game and then dropping him for next if he doesn't score. He needs 10 games and then we could judge how good he is. For me he's still the best striker and goal poacher we have.
Overall, I am extremely disappointed by Gary Mill's approach and yes arrogance about his team selections. Playing players out of position and not giving others a chance and then bringing in players with less ability than those we have. We have had and still have a few players not suited to this level of football. We all know who they are.
In conclusion, I am not enjoying going to watch York City right now. Not because of our poor home form, but because of the manager's self centered attitude. The supporters are not stupid and can see when things need changing to 4.4.2 or plan B. You are driving me away Mr Mills, but I remain hopeful that we can stay in Div 2.
speaks99
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3:29pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Reed. Well, I don't get the love in with him to be completely honest. He is constantly being caught offside, doesn't have the skill to bring others into play and cant really play the single striker role. If we changed our system he may work, but why would we change our whole system to accomodate one player, whom clearly the manager doesn't really rate??
yorko66
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3:44pm Wed 6 Feb 13
speaks99 wrote:No one is asking millsy to change the whole set up to accomodate reedy. Anyone would do at the moment. I think its a case of just trying something different. that has not been tried this season . here is a quote from the commitments. Its back to basics cause theres F*** all else. Its what we need to do.keep the faith
4-3-3 works, but not with our current crop of uninjured players. We need two fullbacks prepared to support, plus a bit of pace on the wings. You'll notice the times that 4-3-3 fails are the same times the two wide mid players are being hemmed back. I think the loss of Coulson and Chambers have been the undoing of us this season. Add to that a failure to find a decent left bakc, plus refusing/unable to play Banjo in the right compromises the whole strategy.
Reed. Well, I don't get the love in with him to be completely honest. He is constantly being caught offside, doesn't have the skill to bring others into play and cant really play the single striker role. If we changed our system he may work, but why would we change our whole system to accomodate one player, whom clearly the manager doesn't really rate??
Budgie
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3:48pm Wed 6 Feb 13
ts and Bullock certainly need to be on ther way,have you noted Bristol Rovers who not too long ago were isolated at the bottom of the league are now one place behind City,I fear we are in freefall.
YorkCityLuke
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3:54pm Wed 6 Feb 13
speaks99 wrote:Pretty much agree with that. 4-4-2 should be a viable fall-back option for us, not the first choice. I can't understand why anyone would be calling for a return to 4-4-2 after we've seen how successful 4-3-3 can be. It's not like a change of formation would be some miracle solution to our problems - I have a strong hunch that a number of the less successful teams in this league play 4-4-2, and it seems to be doing them little good.
4-3-3 works, but not with our current crop of uninjured players. We need two fullbacks prepared to support, plus a bit of pace on the wings. You'll notice the times that 4-3-3 fails are the same times the two wide mid players are being hemmed back. I think the loss of Coulson and Chambers have been the undoing of us this season. Add to that a failure to find a decent left bakc, plus refusing/unable to play Banjo in the right compromises the whole strategy.
Reed. Well, I don't get the love in with him to be completely honest. He is constantly being caught offside, doesn't have the skill to bring others into play and cant really play the single striker role. If we changed our system he may work, but why would we change our whole system to accomodate one player, whom clearly the manager doesn't really rate??
Phil, Leeds
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4:01pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Phil, Leeds
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4:05pm Wed 6 Feb 13
redbluelion wrote:Yeah, Walker's a non league player but having paid £60k for him Gary's going to play him come what may. It's strange how managers often have a blind spot about particular players but basing the whole game plan around Walker is proving a huge mistake.
Disgrace the way mills has treated reed i remember when he signed him and he said how great he was and he was a player mills had his eye for a while..so he brings him to york..reeds scores plenty of goals the following season he is dropped to the bench..for no other reason then walker coming to york..what is it with him and jason walker..hows a player on his form even get in the side..i say it again Gary Mills should be sacked..and all you walker lover can do one before you start..hes meant to be a center forward..on his form this season hes the worst we ever had..is he related to terry eccles by any chance..non league player at best.mills you don't have a clue go now...
Phil, Leeds
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4:08pm Wed 6 Feb 13
speaks99 wrote:But the whole system is already built around 1 player - Walker - and that's the problem!
4-3-3 works, but not with our current crop of uninjured players. We need two fullbacks prepared to support, plus a bit of pace on the wings. You'll notice the times that 4-3-3 fails are the same times the two wide mid players are being hemmed back. I think the loss of Coulson and Chambers have been the undoing of us this season. Add to that a failure to find a decent left bakc, plus refusing/unable to play Banjo in the right compromises the whole strategy.
Reed. Well, I don't get the love in with him to be completely honest. He is constantly being caught offside, doesn't have the skill to bring others into play and cant really play the single striker role. If we changed our system he may work, but why would we change our whole system to accomodate one player, whom clearly the manager doesn't really rate??
YorkCityLuke
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4:08pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Budgie wrote:We've fallen 3 places in the last 10 games. Hardly 'freefall' is it? Plus, Accrington and Plymouth are both in worst form and a lower position than us - not to mention Torquay who are on the same points as us, but with worse form. Also worth considering that 8 points still seperate us from the drop zone, and that the teams currently in the relegation zone are going through a fairly average patch of form (i.e., they're not catching up very quickly at all). Sorry to ruin your pessimism with solid facts, but the situation really isn't that dire, and we have no rational reason to think it will get much worse.
Come on Reed aint good enough,Ingham is a liability,Rodman,Pot
ts and Bullock certainly need to be on ther way,have you noted Bristol Rovers who not too long ago were isolated at the bottom of the league are now one place behind City,I fear we are in freefall.
duffy
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5:03pm Wed 6 Feb 13
1968expat wrote:You have gone crazy. Big Keith always gave 100%, was fantastic in the air and had pace to burn. He would terrorise defenders and had the strength of a bull. He also had a way better first touch, could hold the ball up far better and was a fantastic club and team player.
I feel that Reid is not that different from Keith Walwyn, some people will probably think I have gone crazy, but everyone has got their own opinions. Walwyn never had a great first touch. But boy could he finish. I think same applies to Reid. If he goes then he has my very best wishes. But I fear Mr, Mills has made a another very grave mistake.
Please never, ever mention the two players in the same posting again or in sending for a straight jacket for you. 😳
Yorkie41
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5:05pm Wed 6 Feb 13
bartsimmo
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5:13pm Wed 6 Feb 13
AndyK wrote:Here here Andy K!
The Jamie Reed scenario is one which has concerned and frustrated me greatly for a longtime now.
Like many other York City supporters, I remain completely perplexed by the manager's unwillingness not to give the lad a chance this season. Its no good picking him for one game and then dropping him for next if he doesn't score. He needs 10 games and then we could judge how good he is. For me he's still the best striker and goal poacher we have.
Overall, I am extremely disappointed by Gary Mill's approach and yes arrogance about his team selections. Playing players out of position and not giving others a chance and then bringing in players with less ability than those we have. We have had and still have a few players not suited to this level of football. We all know who they are.
In conclusion, I am not enjoying going to watch York City right now. Not because of our poor home form, but because of the manager's self centered attitude. The supporters are not stupid and can see when things need changing to 4.4.2 or plan B. You are driving me away Mr Mills, but I remain hopeful that we can stay in Div 2.
The whole Reed thing is totally frustrating. We need goals and Walker is not getting them from open play. Maybe Walker would even become more effective with a team mate alongside him. Walker can hold the ball up and Reed can poke it in, maybe they can even swap roles too. But we will never know under Mills because as he says he knows what it takes to get us out of this division if not this year then maybe next. (I think he meas just lose and draw so you get relegated, these comments at Christmas must have surely just have been to justify honouring the remainder of his contract!)
I know Reed will do well wherever he goes if he is given a couple of games to find any kind of form (rather than one match and if you dont score by 60 minutes in the next game you will be subbed even though your team mate who is supposed to score goals and doesnt stays on the pitch full time (Because Mills secretly loves him!)
bartsimmo
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5:15pm Wed 6 Feb 13
speaks99 wrote:We changed our whole system last season to suit Walker up front. So why not change the system to fit in a natural born goalscorer because Walker although tries hard every week has not got it at this level on his own!
4-3-3 works, but not with our current crop of uninjured players. We need two fullbacks prepared to support, plus a bit of pace on the wings. You'll notice the times that 4-3-3 fails are the same times the two wide mid players are being hemmed back. I think the loss of Coulson and Chambers have been the undoing of us this season. Add to that a failure to find a decent left bakc, plus refusing/unable to play Banjo in the right compromises the whole strategy.
Reed. Well, I don't get the love in with him to be completely honest. He is constantly being caught offside, doesn't have the skill to bring others into play and cant really play the single striker role. If we changed our system he may work, but why would we change our whole system to accomodate one player, whom clearly the manager doesn't really rate??
bartsimmo
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5:25pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Budgie wrote:Reed ain't good enough are you for real?
Come on Reed aint good enough,Ingham is a liability,Rodman,Pot
ts and Bullock certainly need to be on ther way,have you noted Bristol Rovers who not too long ago were isolated at the bottom of the league are now one place behind City,I fear we are in freefall.
You only have to look at his minutes to goals ratio and he is far better than any of our strikers.
Ingham hardly liability with only a few mistakes with a dire other ten players in front of him. How many spectacles has he performed this season? I do however agree he needs serious competition for his place.
Rodman granted, Bullock (Jury's out he hasnt had enough first team game time to try an prove himself)
Potts however has been a revelation since being allowed to play. He should have been in the team a lot sooner than before now and all the fans new that. He had never done anything wrong and is one person who can put splitting balls through however if Mills would get off his high stubborn horse and extend the same courtesy's to some of the other players in the team, we might get somewhere.
I also think Kerr needs a rest now and again and smith is th biggest weakest link the majority of the time. Get McGurk and Parslow back together for a few games and reap the rewards!
goreds
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5:45pm Wed 6 Feb 13
In practically every game we have had enough chances to have won and having drawn 13 we chould have been in a better position.
Kerr ,Ingham and Walker IMO have performed well.
IMO if Millsy stays we should be ok.
If he goes then we are ******.
openallhours
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6:24pm Wed 6 Feb 13
He's wasted a lot of our budget on players who aren't fit to wear the shirt, or are not being given the opportunity to. He also insists on a home strategy that is unreliable but the 'Gary Clappers' still won't have a bad word said.
Personally, I think the next 3 games will be a good indicator of how we'll finish the season.
therealbroardsword
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6:47pm Wed 6 Feb 13
roobarb85
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6:54pm Wed 6 Feb 13
So we need strengthening in the chance-creating dept rather than the chance-taking dept?
Funny how people see things differently.
York Manor
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7:00pm Wed 6 Feb 13
bartsimmo wrote:I agree with all of budgies comments apart from the opinion about Reed. Inghams is dire, and at very least needs competition, Potts runs around in circles and usually passes back or sideways, Kerr is starting to do the same, bullock hasn't performed full stop. Reedy should be given a chance at least the finishing should prove!!! It's a case of a manager with few ideas and nowhere to turn. We need to win but I can't see us doing that
Budgie wrote:Reed ain't good enough are you for real?
Come on Reed aint good enough,Ingham is a liability,Rodman,Pot
ts and Bullock certainly need to be on ther way,have you noted Bristol Rovers who not too long ago were isolated at the bottom of the league are now one place behind City,I fear we are in freefall.
You only have to look at his minutes to goals ratio and he is far better than any of our strikers.
Ingham hardly liability with only a few mistakes with a dire other ten players in front of him. How many spectacles has he performed this season? I do however agree he needs serious competition for his place.
Rodman granted, Bullock (Jury's out he hasnt had enough first team game time to try an prove himself)
Potts however has been a revelation since being allowed to play. He should have been in the team a lot sooner than before now and all the fans new that. He had never done anything wrong and is one person who can put splitting balls through however if Mills would get off his high stubborn horse and extend the same courtesy's to some of the other players in the team, we might get somewhere.
I also think Kerr needs a rest now and again and smith is th biggest weakest link the majority of the time. Get McGurk and Parslow back together for a few games and reap the rewards!
Phil, Leeds
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7:30pm Wed 6 Feb 13
therealbroardsword wrote:Yes but only cos Chambers has missed a lot of games. Walker has 9 goals from more than 30 games in all, 3 of them from the penalty spot so 6 goals from open play that equates to about 9 over a 46 game league season. Is that good enough for your supposed main striker? Reed has a far superior goals per minutes on the pitch ratio and so does Chambers.
Isn't walker our top scorer !
therealbroardsword
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7:37pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1
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8:08pm Wed 6 Feb 13
duffy
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8:11pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1 wrote:CAPS LOCK OFF
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHUT UP AND SUPPORT OUR BRILLIANT TEAM. THE GLORY SUPPORTERS WHO ARE SLAGGING US OFF ON HERE WONT HAVE WATCHED A GAME AT CITY IN NON LEAGUE SO THEY CAN JOG ON. JUST SUPPORT THE LADS AND STOP TALKING BALLS. SEE YOU PROPER FANS AT WYCOMBE.
ADAMCUTHBERT
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8:22pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1 wrote:The way we're going we'll be watching them in non league again sooner than we'd like to think!
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHUT UP AND SUPPORT OUR BRILLIANT TEAM. THE GLORY SUPPORTERS WHO ARE SLAGGING US OFF ON HERE WONT HAVE WATCHED A GAME AT CITY IN NON LEAGUE SO THEY CAN JOG ON. JUST SUPPORT THE LADS AND STOP TALKING BALLS. SEE YOU PROPER FANS AT WYCOMBE.
So get your head out of your @#$+!
COYR
bill bailey
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9:04pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Thats what is called getting the base right.he wasent a bad manager was he.?
openallhours
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9:25pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1 wrote:To quote the famous Duffy;
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHUT UP AND SUPPORT OUR BRILLIANT TEAM. THE GLORY SUPPORTERS WHO ARE SLAGGING US OFF ON HERE WONT HAVE WATCHED A GAME AT CITY IN NON LEAGUE SO THEY CAN JOG ON. JUST SUPPORT THE LADS AND STOP TALKING BALLS. SEE YOU PROPER FANS AT WYCOMBE.
'Oh dear, 1 out of 10'.
garnham
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9:32pm Wed 6 Feb 13
Reid is not up to it, awful player. Can't agree with what has been posted on this subject. We have no money to buy in a quality player in any position.
Don't believe the moaning minnies on here. Just support the lads to the hilt then I know they will deliver.
If you can't stand the heat don't bother us proper supporters who are City thru & thru
YorkCityLuke
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9:33pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1 wrote:Agree with the sentiment, but no need to shout!
EVERYONE NEEDS TO SHUT UP AND SUPPORT OUR BRILLIANT TEAM. THE GLORY SUPPORTERS WHO ARE SLAGGING US OFF ON HERE WONT HAVE WATCHED A GAME AT CITY IN NON LEAGUE SO THEY CAN JOG ON. JUST SUPPORT THE LADS AND STOP TALKING BALLS. SEE YOU PROPER FANS AT WYCOMBE.
YO1
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9:34pm Wed 6 Feb 13
uhtred
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9:57pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1
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9:58pm Wed 6 Feb 13
skilly
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10:28pm Wed 6 Feb 13
tomwillo1 wrote:I agree fully with this. Watched the Gillingham v Wycombe game and its probably summed up league 2. Nothing to choose between the teams and at times both sides look ordinary. Wycombe won due to a quality finish and there must be dozens of games like this in league 2. We are not a bad side and need to get behind the team. Nothing to fear against any team in this league. We have the quality but need to take our chances. COYR
Caps lock is off now. Just sick of the jumped up 'so called' fans that just enjoy slagging us off in any shape or form. Get behind the lads and our top manager and we won't go down. Continue to slag them off and boo and that's when things go the other way!
openallhours
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10:57pm Wed 6 Feb 13
garnham wrote:We have no money coz Mills has blown most of it on players who can't get in the side or have already been released (not to mention employing defensive Des).
Agree with tomwillo1
Reid is not up to it, awful player. Can't agree with what has been posted on this subject. We have no money to buy in a quality player in any position.
Don't believe the moaning minnies on here. Just support the lads to the hilt then I know they will deliver.
If you can't stand the heat don't bother us proper supporters who are City thru & thru
We also have no money coz a lot of fans have been put off by our home form.
Being out of all of the cup competitions early on didn't help either.
But I, along with many others will still be supporting (and paying to watch) York long after Mills and co have gone.
jumbojet
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12:06am Thu 7 Feb 13
Tug job
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12:20am Thu 7 Feb 13
1968expat wrote:Do you genuinely believe this or have you just posted to try and be controversial? Keith Walwyn had it all - touch, pace, strength, heading, ability to take players on and beat them. Jamie Reed is a reasoable finisher but has none of the other attributes, he wasn't even much good against Northallerton. I also wonder why so many posters are unable to spell Jamie's surname correctly, despite this being included in the headline. I know some immature people will resort to calling me a 'Keith Clapper', but Keith Walwyn really was a very good player; Jamie Reed isn't which is why he is still on our books.
I feel that Reid is not that different from Keith Walwyn, some people will probably think I have gone crazy, but everyone has got their own opinions. Walwyn never had a great first touch. But boy could he finish. I think same applies to Reid. If he goes then he has my very best wishes. But I fear Mr, Mills has made a another very grave mistake.
Tug job
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10:31am Thu 7 Feb 13
openallhours wrote:This is an odd post. All the players in the squad, whether they are in the side or not (for whatever reason, including injuries) , have to be paid and this is true for every club. Players who are on loan elsewhere will have some of their wages paid by that club (this will vary according to the load agreement). Players we have on load from other clubs will have some of their wages paid by us. Again, this is standard practice. Average home gates are up by around 750 on last season and we have a couple of games coming up against sides who will bring large followings. It is true that better cup runs would have generated more income but we beat Rotherham away and how many people realistically believed we would beat Coventry. We were a shade unlucky against Doncaster as many posters on here recognised. We were beaten by Wimbledon in a replay - the first round draw was a poor display (although if we'd taken our chances in the first half we'd have been well ahead), but we played very well and were unlucky in the replay. We have generally played reasonably well against much better oppostion than last season. Occasionally, we have sparkled. On a few occasions we have struggled. In other words, we are a typical League Two club. A look at the table will show you how tight this division is.
garnham wrote: Agree with tomwillo1 Reid is not up to it, awful player. Can't agree with what has been posted on this subject. We have no money to buy in a quality player in any position. Don't believe the moaning minnies on here. Just support the lads to the hilt then I know they will deliver. If you can't stand the heat don't bother us proper supporters who are City thru & thruWe have no money coz Mills has blown most of it on players who can't get in the side or have already been released (not to mention employing defensive Des). We also have no money coz a lot of fans have been put off by our home form. Being out of all of the cup competitions early on didn't help either. But I, along with many others will still be supporting (and paying to watch) York long after Mills and co have gone.
yorko66
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10:34am Thu 7 Feb 13
chalkytalky
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10:36am Thu 7 Feb 13
Reedy needs the same, an opportunity. As some people said, a game or two isnt enough. If he had had a 5-10 game run of starts and not done it I could understand people saying he isnt good enough, but he has shown in fleeting appearances he can score goals (which is what we need). I like Walker and he is probably the most fouled player in the division, but he can't do it every game on his own (hold up the ball and try bring others into play). Shame Reedy is going, I am in fear for our season at the moment, hope we turn it around and do wish we would try something other than 433 at home as teams just sit back and wait for us so it doesnt work unlike away games.
redwhiteblue
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10:46am Thu 7 Feb 13
erniet
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1:32pm Thu 7 Feb 13
tomwillo1
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6:09pm Thu 7 Feb 13
jumbojet wrote:If im that sad, why are you commenting on a team that you call hopeless. You obviously have nothing good to do with your pathetic life. Obviously a leeds fan.
Tomwillo1 quote 'everyone needs to shutup and support our BRILLIANT team'. I have read some rubbish on this forum, but, in capitals or not, that about sums up the knowledge of the average York City supporter. Ifyou are going to watch this rubbish that the City team are playing, and going to Wycombe, you must have a very sad life, you will have more fun walking the bar walls. The team, and particularly the Manager, are hopeless, I just cannot imagine what they do at training, they have no idea, they lack purpose,team spirit, just big kicks from a goalkeeper, 90% of the time giving the ball to the opposite side, and the 10% played by City, side to side, before an inaccurate pass does the same thing. It is total rubbish, village league stuff.
duffy
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6:41pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Yorkie41
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7:10pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Dortmun
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8:27pm Thu 7 Feb 13
duffy wrote:Fantastic, another midfield player that cant get a game at his own club
John McGrath looks to be signing for us in the February loan window from Burton.
henleazeyorkie
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8:49pm Thu 7 Feb 13
Even though we went down 3-1 to an excellent side, Larry lloyd, John McGovern, Martin O'Neill scoring, it's well worth the watch for
- unbelievable snow covered pitch (would never be played now)
- standard blizzard issue red lines / orange ball
- Roy Kay refusing to make anything approaching a tackle (as per)
- David Pugh's tache
- Barry Wellings consolation goal, replete with Maurice Gibb hair style (or lack of)
- Brian Moore constantly referring to "little York City"
Ruddy Marvellous!!!!
GreenshawGrinder
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12:40am Fri 8 Feb 13
duffy
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7:45am Fri 8 Feb 13
GreenshawGrinder wrote:McGrath was very highly rated in his conference days and thought by many the best midfielder in the division.
John McGrath, 5.10 tall and weighs 10 stone 4lbs, another lightweight. Should add a bit of beef in midfield. Not!
Mad for Minstermen says...
12:48pm Wed 6 Feb 13