York City crash 4-1 at home to Morecambe in npower League Two (From York Press)

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Ycfc85 wrote:
Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.

Dortmun wrote:

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!

What a pratt (related?)

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Mickey T wrote:

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?

Mickey T wrote:

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!

Not a lagend but a Knob!!!

duffy wrote:

Mickey T wrote:

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?

The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.

TheBurton wrote:
People calling for Mills to go is ridiculous!
Got us promoted from the Conference and won the FA Trophy last year and now we are having a few bad performances and suddenly people want a change of manager. Its not the answer. We aren't Chelsea. Keep the faith in the team.

minstermen wrote:
Mcgurk on the bench again!! when he came back in the team a few games ago he made a big diffrence to the defence looks now that we are back to square one think the aim now is to battle and try and keep our great club in the football league ,did have a little smirk at luton tho

legend7 wrote:

Mickey T wrote:

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!

Not a lagend but a Knob!!!

yeah not lagend its legend #whosaknob!!!

legend7 wrote:
that was a game we should easily have won, im sorry to say it but its time for change, Mills out!!!

bartsimmo wrote:

Ycfc85 wrote:
Mills out?! Haha. He's working wonders on our budget. Maybe we should get another dinosaur like Dolan in to play hoofball. It's a bad result but let's not get silly.

But to be fair Dolan did very well alot better than Mills with even harder off the field troubles. Was definitely a wrong decision to get rid of him by the board when they did.
Would like to see Mills stop being stubborn and try other tactics because it is not working. We are getting nearer to the bottom every week. Yes Gills draw was a good result but how many of the other 12 draws this season were good draws not to mention the disappointing defeats to lower teams.

Mills has been found out this season so much for his comments at Christmas saying he now knows what it takes to get promoted and if it is not this season will be the next! I am sorry I dont have that faith in you Mills. Last season you did well but there was an awful lot of luck along the way.

Change your stubborness or get out so we can keep our football league status that you worked so hard to get for us. The board have to remember it doesnt matter what has been done in the past it is what is being done now. Sentiments lead to relegation!

duffy wrote:
Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?

duffy wrote:
Could someone please explain to me how Chris Smith is a better alternative up front than Reed ?

duffy wrote:

Mickey T wrote:

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?

The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.

van the man wrote:

duffy wrote:

Mickey T wrote:

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?

The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.

So you have to ask yourself, how long will the Mcgills put up with falling gate receipts because of the poor home performances, the product they are selling at the moment is awful, and even the die hards may choose to spend there hard erned cash elsewere.

bertieb wrote:
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.

van the man wrote:

bertieb wrote:
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.

Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.

van the man wrote:

bertieb wrote:
Desperate performance today. I cannot believe McGurk and Reed were left on the bench. There is a thin line betwen confidence and arrogance, between strength and pig-headedness and I'm afraid Gary Mills is crossing it with his blinkered adherence to 4-3-3 and his favouritism re the dreadful Chris Smith.It's too early to say Mills out but I fear our manager shows no sign of learning from his mistakes.

Apparently Mills said on the radio after the game, that given the chance, he wouldn"t have changed any of his decisions today during the game, after just getting tonked 4-1 at home, to me thats a man out of ideas, and a sign that he has taken us as far as he can.

andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.

YorkCityLuke wrote:

andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.

Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.

bartsimmo wrote:

duffy wrote:

Mickey T wrote:

redbluelion wrote:
im not turning any more overtime down to come and watch this crap.its not worth it until we start scoring goals..its alright playing walker week in week out but the fact is he don't score from open play..yes he can hold the ball up well and bring others into play but he was brought to york to score goals..i won't be wasting my time going to watch this crap when i can be earning much needed cash ..sod it..mills out..end of.

Then do the overtime and see if we are bothered?

The club will be bothered because I'm told we based this seasons budget on an average of 3800 and the fans are dropping away in numbers. We need everyone we can through the gates if we want to strengthen,because next seasons budget will be based on this seasons average gate with the league ruling on percentage of income.

Well one wage that can definitely go is Des Lyttle's! I mean seriously what has he done this season? He is supposed to be a defensive coach yet our defence this season is more shocking than last season. Preferably all 3 of the management out though before it is too late!

YorkCityLuke wrote:

andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.

Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.

redwhiteblue wrote:
The loss of Ashley Chambers started our poor run - we need him back - Rodman not a Chamber and never will be - we need him back as soon as possible. It not always big guys who score - Redshaw one of the smallest on the field
Finally - Mills to go bull.... Let's not make us look stupid - watch us get three point at Wycombe

van the man wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:

andy jamo wrote:
lets go back several months. we finished 4th in the conference, we got very lucky at home to mansfield (player sent off while they dominated} and we all know how lucky we were at wembley. so up we came, with young cloughie, proclaiming, we were going to win the cup and promotion this year. rethink time, sort it mr mills, or we may not have our team in the future.

Not time for Mills to go yet in my opinion - not even close. Today we were very, very poor. The few games before that we were 'ok', with good moments. A manager who gets you promoted then produces mostly 'ok' results in his first season in the league doesn't need to be changed. No excuses for losing 4-1 today, but in general we've been hit hard by injuries and budget constraints, and I personally think the current group of players can at least achieve a mid-table finish.

For me todays 4-1home defeat was only one in season of woefull home results, the managers tactics work to certain extent away from home when you can invite teams onto you, but to stay in any league you need win a good percentage of your home games, we havn"t got a clue at home, and thats down to the manager by sticking by his golden boys at all costs, even playing them in the wrong positions, at the expense of better options, unless something changes quickly, we are going to continue to struggle, and stay in this league.

skilly wrote:
Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!!

skilly wrote:
Sacking Mills is not the option.Mills does not have money to spend and has to wheel & deal to get players in, many clubs are in the same situation. Goals change games and at 1-1 we had a great chance with Parslow to score. Had we scored I believe we would have won the game, its a fine line at times and we don't seem to be getting the rub of the green at home. We will finish in a comfortable mid-table position, you only have to look at how tight the table us to see that there are as many as 12 teams who will change places in the lower half of the league. Was it really going to be any different with the squad we have? And those incessant chants for Reedy - give me a break, clubs desparate to sign him? Then why is he still here!!

dangermoose wrote:
5 wins from 17 home fixtures this season, says it all really.

We struggled at home last season with our home form in that god awful league.

So why does Mills not address this? He just plays the same way and it is not difficult for the opposition - evidence of that is in our results.

For me you have got a month Gary to turn this around. Some tough games but we need points and after the last two home games where exactly are we going to get them?

I'm sure that Jason McGill knows as well as anybody that the club can't afford to dice with death so soon, and sentiment I am afraid goes out of the window.

dangermoose wrote:
Just seen that debacle again on TV

Goal 1 - Smith failed to win header
Goal 2 - Ingham bottled the challenge - soft as you know what
Goal 3 - Fyfield oh dear, could he have made it any easier for the scorer
Goal 4 - Parslow and O'Connell fast asleep

All in all utter garbage, but the happy clappers don't want to hear a bad word still.

Re-think time Mills. I just don't get why when something fails as consistently as we do at home, nothing is done to address it?

York Manor wrote:
I am going to keep this short because its all been said by various posts.
1. We are going into a relegation battle.
2.Mills and cronies have no idea, no tatics no plan A let alone a Plan B.
3. Defence is horrendous.
4. Finishing is worse than horrendous.
5. Probably the worst keeper in League 2
6. Rubbish home form.
7. Meaningless window signings.

Change of manager please, before we become a conference side again and this wonderful football club is no more. Thanks Gary for what you did last season, but out of your depth in this league.

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.

bill bailey wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.

Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm
not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right
ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.

YorkCityLuke wrote:

bill bailey wrote:

YorkCityLuke wrote:
Saying Mills was lucky last season is as senseless as saying he is unlucky this season. He got us promoted, to say anything less than he was brilliant last season is extremely ungrateful. Like I have posted previously, we shouldn't be looking at replacing Mills, not after one bad result in a run of mediocre results. We were never going to walk this league like Mills, myself, and some other supporters were saying at the start of the season - a realist would have expected us to take a few hammerings. We started this season as the lowest ranked team in the football league, so realistically anything outside of the relegation zone is an improvement.

This is one hammering, not a series of hammerings - lets keep it in perspective. Everyone has acknowledged that Mills has to start putting things right, lets give him time to integrate the new signings before we write City off.

Although i agree with some of what you say,there are plenty of people who paid their hard earned money to see a team that turned in a performance well below their expectations,against a team they should have put to bed by halftime.i'm
not stupid enough to think things cant go wrong now and then,but it seems to me what ever system Mills uses he has it wrong.perhaps those that are his "LEFT HAND MEN" are not the right
ones.loyalty can only extent as long as your owqn neck.

I think you're correct about the system needing a change (or at least a significant tweak) and of course, I was as unhappy as anyone else about yesterdays result and performance. I'm probably guilty, as are others, of giving Mills much more patience than managers would normally get because of last season. But I also honestly believe that Mills is a born winner; he won as a player, he won at Tamworth, and he won for us last season. If he makes a habit of losing, then maybe it's time for change - just not yet!

garnham wrote:
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY

arsene.about.york wrote:

garnham wrote:
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY

What planet do you live on ? It is up to the players to perform in home matches and at least give the fans something to sing and shout about. I would say that pro rata there are no more voiceferous fans anywhere than at BC. However, they/we do need something to shout about and we are just not getting it with the DROSS we are seeing week after week at home

garnham wrote:
Must be awful playing in front of the BC crowd. Ever wondered why City perform in away matches
The faithful 200 - 300 fans make more noise in 10 minutes than a whole home match.
I don't expect there will be many players keen to stay to be abused at every home match.
Time for the so called supporters to review their performance so far not up to the standard needed to be 12th man in a home win !!!

OBVIOUSLY

sixtyfourfive wrote:
Am as disappointed as the rest over yesterday and have refrained from commenting until now. As usual some very sensible and considered comments but also some utter garbage eg "Ingham worst keeper in Div 2." Get real? Our second half performance was poor BUT if good chances (eg Paddy Mac twice) had been put away at critical points we could well have had 3 points and would probably have had about 12 comments on this forum. The nature of League 2 is that Morecambe will probably get stuffed at home next week and we will win at Wycombe - players/teams at this level are notoriously inconsistent. Putting things into perspective we are around mid table which is what most expect and where I believe we will finish. I agree our tactics suit away better than home and Mills seems a little stubborn on changing things in that area but I do believe there is something of a caustic atmosphere at home not evident away which does not help. Poor performance but total over reaction by some!

YoRkIe59 wrote:
Its pretty clear by now Mills either cant or won,t change tactics at home,he seems to have made that quite clear on interviews etc.As for the post regarding jonothan Smith being commited,oh yeah he was commited alright just not to us.