The Old Ebor pub facing uncertain future after flats bid

Paul Matson, landlord of the Old Ebor, in Drake Street, at the foot of Nunnery Lane. The pub could be closed after an  application was   submitted to turn it into flats Paul Matson, landlord of the Old Ebor, in Drake Street, at the foot of Nunnery Lane. The pub could be closed after an application was submitted to turn it into flats

A YORK publican has vowed to fight any attempt to close his pub after its owner submitted plans to turn it into flats.

Paul Matson, who runs The Old Ebor in Drake Street, at the foot of Nunnery Lane, said he is concerned for its future and wants regulars to back him.

The building’s owner, Phil Armitage, told The Press on Saturday that he did not want to close the pub and wanted only to “future-proof” his investment by keeping his options open.

But in a planning application to City of York Council, he said the pub was no longer viable and said the noise was irritating residents in the flats upstairs. He said closure was “the only way forward”.

Mr Matson said he was upset and angry and hopes his regulars will fight to save the pub. He said: “We are going to fight it as hard as we can and try to show him to be in the wrong. How can he say the pub is not making money, when he does not know?”

He said he planned to print out letters for pub customers to send to City of York Council opposing Mr Armitage’s planning application, and said: “If he does not want to close the pub, why has he put in that application? The only way he will convince us is to remove it.”

In his planning application, Mr Armitage wrote: “After trying to keep a small pub open for two years, it is not viable any longer and is also causing a nuisance with noise to the residential flats above and neighbouring properties.

“It is having to stay open till late hours to make any money and also the music is causing problems late at night.”

He subsequently told The Press on Saturday that if Mr Matson could find a way to make the pub viable without opening late and playing loud music, he would be happy for it to remain open.

Earlier this year, The Cygnet in nearby Price Street was knocked down to make way for housing, but Mr Armitage said there were other pubs in the area that could fill the gap. The Edward VII, The Victoria Vaults, The Trafalgar Bay, The Swan and The Slip are all within walking distance, including three in Nunnery Lane itself.

Mr Armitage said: “The removal or closure of this pub to create two small self-contained affordable flats on the ground floor is the only way forward, and the other three pubs very nearby would easily take the trade.”

Elsewhere, The Rook & Gaskill in Lawrence Street has closed for refurbishment following the departure of landlord Neil Trafford, while The Golden Lion in Malton Market Place has closed again, having reopened last December following a seven-year closure.

Comments(8)

roskoboskovic says...
9:05am Mon 15 Oct 12

you rent a flat above a pub and then complain about the noise.i think someone is telling porkies but unless ycc take a stand and refuse these applications then we ll keep losing these small local pubs.

malwood9 says...
10:03am Mon 15 Oct 12

As for people moving into a flat above a pub and complaining about the noise, I used to live on a caravan site outside of York when a small, select, estate of six houses were built on land next to us. The new buyers, after moving in, then complained of the 'pikeys' (their words not mine) next door and tried to get us closed down. There is no end to some peoples arrogance.

ymeantsay says...
2:10pm Mon 15 Oct 12

good im glad .the landlord never seems to be all there anyway theres lots more pubs in the area

notmyrealname says...
2:40pm Mon 15 Oct 12

Scary Pub ! Got some interesting characters in it though ! Went there to listen to some music a while ago and thought we'd walked into a Fellini movie......

Pete the Brickie says...
4:35pm Mon 15 Oct 12

The owner sounds perfectly reasonable, it's up to the Landlord, prove the business can make money for the owner without causing nuisance and the council will tell him it's viable and it won't get made into flats.

Altman says...
8:50am Tue 16 Oct 12

I'm new to this but feel I had to post a reply,I agree with some posts ie noise-you wouldn't move to station road or airport avenue without expecting noise!!. Other pubs in the area,one has no tv or music,one is very quiet and one up for let.Pubs on bish road are expensive touristy pubs the Old Ebor is a locals pub, I've been going in for months and have found the locals friendly (bad element barred) staff are great and extremely knowledgable about beers and breweries and what to try(samples always available before buying) . York CAMRA drink there and pub has recently gained cask marque recognition which is a testament to how well the ever changing selection of beer is kept,one of the rare pubs where staff will draw a bit off if its been sat all night so you get a perfect pint!. I judge people on how I find them and not on hearsay or gossip I would suggest the negative posts listed above have not been in the pub for a while or have some other motive for the frankly malicious and personal posts.This is a proper locals pub,use it or lose it - object to the planning !!!!

sounds weird but says...
12:17pm Tue 16 Oct 12

More blasted flats! We are losing our community and real pubs are part of that!

Mr Armitage said: “The removal or closure of this pub to create two small self-contained affordable flats on the ground floor is the only way forward, and the other three pubs very nearby would easily take the trade.”

I cant see how this concludes this is the 'only way forward'? Does Paul submit accounts to Mr Armitage, so he can see this, or is it a lease (ie flat fee)? If Mr Armitage is getting his lease money from Paul then surely its up to Paul to make the profit? Sounds like a cop out to me!

Mr Armitage said: “... the other three pubs very nearby would easily take the trade.”

Local make the pubs and this is a proper pub, locals wont just shunt off to another local!

KateYork says...
11:52pm Fri 26 Oct 12

I sincerely hope the Ebor isn't closed down. Paul is a fantastic landlord and the pub is really friendly and a true locals pub.
None of the other pubs on Nunnery Lane compare.
As others have stated before, why rent a flat above a pub if you're just going to complain about noise.

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