"York deserves better" - Councillor quits Labour and launches stinging attack (From York Press)

Even AndyD wrote:
Very bad day at the office for JA and his comments don't help. Some things should be said in private, not to the Press. Rhetoric, spin, party-whip-structure , this is modern politics all over isn't it? Good luck Lynn, I think politics needs more independents - locally especially, but nationally too.

Shouter wrote:
At last, an honest politician! Bravo Councillor Jeffries. Long may you continue to serve the citizens of York.

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
So right hand 'man' Red Sonja goes on twitter to announce Cllr Jeffries is a "rotten apple" just shows how out of touch they are and how far their heads are in the sand. Her friend Mr Sidley responds back "shall we get rid of more bad apples" how many more Labour councillors to resign?

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
So right hand 'man' Red Sonja goes on twitter to announce Cllr Jeffries is a "rotten apple" just shows how out of touch they are and how far their heads are in the sand.

Her friend Mr Sidley responds back "shall we get rid of more bad apples" how many more Labour councillors to resign?

Freeman wrote:
Well done Cllr Jeffries. This is ,I think, the first time I have read through the comments on an article and not found contoversy. Everyone is in agreement with her decision, that is apart from Cllr James Alexander.

James Alexander said:

Lynn voted for the Labour budget after debate and it included many required, tough decisions due to Government funding cuts. Some do not want to accept the reality of what Government funding cuts actually mean.

"Without the party politics and constant ‘whipping’, I will be able to do a better job, be able to speak out and be accountable to the people who really matter, those residents of the city who elected me and expect me to do my very best for them, not simply the public profile of local Labour Party and its leader.

Coun Lynn Jeffries said, "It was clear the decision to make cuts had already been made. James Alexander and Tracey Simpson-Laing simply were not listening to any reasoned argument."

Coun Crisp tweeted at 3.52pm 22 Aug 2012,
Sonja Crisp @CllrCrisp
@DanSidley I'm good, I'm on the winning team. If drunken verbal abuse don't get me down..this won't. Rotten apple out the way and move on;)

Dan Sidley tweeted in reply,
Dan Sidley ‏@DanSidley
@CllrCrisp shall we get a few more rotten apples out the way too whilst we are at it... It's always better to be on the winning side :)

York1900 wrote:
Look at this he can not even fill a simple Disclosure of Gifts & Hospitality form in right

http://democracy.yor


k.gov.uk/mgDeclarati


onSubmission.aspx?UI


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Any one Knows who this Councillor is


Disclosure of Gifts & Hospitality
18. You must reveal the name of any person from whom you have received a gift or hospitality with an estimated value of at least £50 which you have received in your capacity as a member of the Council. Date of Receipt of Gift/Hospitality Name of Donor, & Reason and Nature of Gift etc

4 November 2012 Merchant Adventurers Venison Feast - Guest of Adam Sinclair

11 November 2012 Nights Stay in Blackpool Hilton Hotel - Hospitality of Blackpool Council £100

11 November 2012 Dinner at the Hilton Hotel Blackpool - Hospitality of Blackpool Council £50

12 November 2012 Ticket to Blackpool Pleasure Beach - Hospitality of Blackpool Council £24

Who else but Councillor James Alexander”

pedalling paul wrote:
Ethically, Lynne should now resign and then re-fight her seat as an Independent candidate. That would be a true test of public opinion in the Ward. Personally I hope that she fights the seat and wins it. It would not end the present Labour majority, but perhaps many of their Members may be persuaded to encourage JA to rethink its internal governance processes, which are reportedly stuffing colleagues, stifling debate and straining loyalties. I've already mentioned the Water End "debate", when all Labour Cllrs had to show unified public support for the cycle lane removal, despite Officer and majority public advice to leave it alone. We only have one Independent Councillor at present, who can be something of a loose cannon, but I suspect that Lynn would be rather more level headed and courteous in a like role.

magic cat wrote:
Well this tweet has let the genie out of the bottle hasn't it? How many more Labour councillors will show courage and integrity and resign? And as for Cllr Crisp - she deserves to be removed from office for what she has said publicly - especially as she is supposed to have responsibility for Social Inclusion. Far too interested in her own perceived importance. Just shows that Labour only have their own agendas and interests and do not really care about York or the people they represent.

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
By the way Cllr Simpson Laing seems to be getting an easy ride. This article seems to suggest she's completely unfit for office?

Torycouncil2015 wrote:
By the way Cllr Simpson Laing seems to be getting an easy ride. This article seems to suggest she's completely unfit for office?

Jeff_li wrote:
Anyone else think Sonja Crisp's twitter picture looks like a Matt Lucas / Little Britain character?

only human wrote:
whilst this has been a very tough decision for Lynn with the chance devastating effects on a future political career it just shows that no party is bigger than its elected councillors and if their conscience is telling them a policy is unfair or just wrong then they have to make that decision in the interest of all they believe in.
That said,you cannot challenge cyc decision makers from the outside,they will do what they think keeps them in good favour with the government at the expense of the local electorate just to cling on to their budgets.
some councillors are all too eager to please their employers rather than their electorate.
Lynn has sacrificed her councillor role because she saw the bigger picture and the effects of the cuts to come on societies most vulnerable.
CYC will not stop until they have privatised all social care services as this is a group of people with no voices.Many of these people are about to have services such as weekly bath,shop,houseclean

,and any social activities withdrawn as the cyc plan to contract out to agencies on an essential care only basis.so for example.mrs jane doe can have a maximum of 15 minutes four times a day to have breakfast,microwave meal lunch,sandwich for tea and bedtime drink,medication and a quick wipe round with a flannel on a morning.
They will no longer get a 30 minute weekly call to have assistance with a full bath or shower in their own home.They will no longer have a 30 minute hygienic clean of their home,kitchen surfaces,sinks,toile

ts,floors etc.
Gone will be the 30 minute local shop for essential living necessities,grocerie

s and tioletries.
All these things will be redefined as non essential and not a high care need.it will be assumed that every person has a family or friends who can do these things for them,but this is increasingly not the case.There are many people whos only human contact is their carer 4 times a day and many times the lack of consistent carers and rapid turnover in agency staff due to generally poorer wages terms and conditions means calls are rushed and cut to as few as 5 mins as carers are forced to do as many calls as possible ain as little time as possible.
This is a false economy and the consequences can be dire for those affected.NHS bed blocking due to lack of social care in the community,massive waiting times for social care assessments,red tape,Its just a merry go round of passing the buck form downing street to local government to agency and nhs and back to local govt for the difficult calls that agencies dont want to take on as they are too time and manpower consuming and theres not enough profit in it for them.
Some calls will always remain with local authority purely from a duty of care and the human rights act etc.agencies can cherry pick but local authority will always have to pick up the pieces.
so what happens when there is almost no vulnerable people to pick on.where will the axe fall next.
Good luck Lynn,whatever you do,its a great shame for the voiceless......

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names?

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

magic cat wrote:
Further evidence of a non listening Labour Council who do not want to engage with the public on anything. Cllr Crisp's e mail response:- "I am out of the office from 10-26 August inclusive. If you have received this message your e mail will be automatically deleted. Please re-send if urgent after 26 August." Clearly she is too busy tweeting, insulting people, attending the Flotilla and the Torch relay and getting paid £21000 plus for the privilege.

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

York1900 wrote:

rose_of_york wrote: Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

I used to vote LABOUR but have found that LABOUR was no better than the Tories or the Lib Dems They all seem to be in it for there own gain rather that for the betterment of the people who elected them Cllr Jeffries did the right thing in quiting LABOUR for the way LABOUR are doing the Governments bidding on cuts People put LABOUR in power in York thinking they were going to get some thing better .

desmond tiblets wrote:
Why have posts about the two labour bullies and bigots sidley and crisp been removed does the truth hurt?

York1900 wrote:

desmond tiblets wrote: Why have posts about the two labour bullies and bigots sidley and crisp been removed does the truth hurt?

And my post about crisp gift returns as all so been removed

York1900 wrote:

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

I used to vote LABOUR but have found that LABOUR was no better than the Tories or the Lib Dems
They all seem to be in it for there own gain rather that for the betterment of the people who elected them

Cllr Jeffries did the right thing in quiting LABOUR for the way LABOUR are doing the Governments bidding on cuts

People put LABOUR in power in York thinking they were going to get some thing better


.

TheTruthHurts wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

so we get regular rainbow flags flying and regular pride marches just so they can say to young boys it's ok to be gay! That's practically grooming!

Getting carried away a bit there.

So buzz light year! It take you go thru the post s and report them because your a bigot and don't like the truth? Fact is on one of the recen gay pride letters somebody stated that the gay pride marches were there to show children it is ok to be gay!! AND whatever happened to free speech? Seems it doesn't exist in York

Thats going a little bit off topic. But to be honest in my world it is ok to be gay. bi, straight, black, white, Muslim, Jewish Sikh etc etc ' is it not in yours?

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

so we get regular rainbow flags flying and regular pride marches just so they can say to young boys it's ok to be gay! That's practically grooming!

Getting carried away a bit there.

So buzz light year! It take you go thru the post s and report them because your a bigot and don't like the truth? Fact is on one of the recen gay pride letters somebody stated that the gay pride marches were there to show children it is ok to be gay!! AND whatever happened to free speech? Seems it doesn't exist in York

Micklegate wrote:

York1900 wrote:

rose_of_york wrote: Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

I used to vote LABOUR but have found that LABOUR was no better than the Tories or the Lib Dems They all seem to be in it for there own gain rather that for the betterment of the people who elected them Cllr Jeffries did the right thing in quiting LABOUR for the way LABOUR are doing the Governments bidding on cuts People put LABOUR in power in York thinking they were going to get some thing better .

I think you must have missed the entire point of the article and Lynn Jeffries resignation. Nowhere does she say this is about government cuts, it is all about choices that Labour here in York are making. They are the wrong choices but they are not to do with government cuts. She als resigned over the total lack of consultation and discussion in the James Alexande dictatorship.

Government cuts are happening, but why is that? It's the bad old Tories of course. Please stop reading at this point if you area blinkered person of the left who wants to ignore the facts.

If you are still reading.....please remember the cuts are needed as Labour spent £4 for every £3 they had, they raised debt more while in power than every other UK government (ADDED TOGETER!), they left a record debt and record deficit, they saddled every ne born baby with £25,000 of debt. If Labour had got back in they were committed to cutting 85% of the anmount, yet now they refuse to say where ANY would come from.

Support Lynn Jeffries, but please don't make up he reasons for resigning - her reasons were honourable.

Buzz Light-year wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

so we get regular rainbow flags flying and regular pride marches just so they can say to young boys it's ok to be gay! That's practically grooming!

Getting carried away a bit there.

So buzz light year! It take you go thru the post s and report them because your a bigot and don't like the truth? Fact is on one of the recen gay pride letters somebody stated that the gay pride marches were there to show children it is ok to be gay!! AND whatever happened to free speech? Seems it doesn't exist in York

You're getting very carried away now. I had only two things to say about all this: politics is ugly, and some people are getting carried away. However, since you make the disgraceful inference that I'm "a bigot and don't like the truth" from those two things I'm going to have to say more. I don't want to be involved in the gay pride storm in a teacup as it's old news and frankly doesn't concern me but if you can't understand that the gay pride letter stated that they were there to show *gay* kids it's ok to be what they *are*, not to tell all kids they should give it a try, how am I the bigot out of us two? I never report others' posts. I am vehemently against censorship. It's poor form when the Press removes comments. I much prefer the record to stand for everyone to see, for the author to be shown to be the genius or fool they may be. Tell me this Einstein - if I wanted your comments removed... *Why would I quote them?* You could retract your abuse, I would accept your apology.

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

so we get regular rainbow flags flying and regular pride marches just so they can say to young boys it's ok to be gay! That's practically grooming!

Getting carried away a bit there.

So buzz light year! It take you go thru the post s and report them because your a bigot and don't like the truth? Fact is on one of the recen gay pride letters somebody stated that the gay pride marches were there to show children it is ok to be gay!! AND whatever happened to free speech? Seems it doesn't exist in York

You're getting very carried away now. I had only two things to say about all this: politics is ugly, and some people are getting carried away. However, since you make the disgraceful inference that I'm "a bigot and don't like the truth" from those two things I'm going to have to say more. I don't want to be involved in the gay pride storm in a teacup as it's old news and frankly doesn't concern me but if you can't understand that the gay pride letter stated that they were there to show *gay* kids it's ok to be what they *are*, not to tell all kids they should give it a try, how am I the bigot out of us two? I never report others' posts. I am vehemently against censorship. It's poor form when the Press removes comments. I much prefer the record to stand for everyone to see, for the author to be shown to be the genius or fool they may be. Tell me this Einstein - if I wanted your comments removed... *Why would I quote them?* You could retract your abuse, I would accept your apology.

Why should I apologise to you? 1, I asked you a question, I didn't state you were anything! 2, you only quoted a small portion of the post that was deleted

Buzz Light-year wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote:

so we get regular rainbow flags flying and regular pride marches just so they can say to young boys it's ok to be gay! That's practically grooming!

Getting carried away a bit there.

So buzz light year! It take you go thru the post s and report them because your a bigot and don't like the truth? Fact is on one of the recen gay pride letters somebody stated that the gay pride marches were there to show children it is ok to be gay!! AND whatever happened to free speech? Seems it doesn't exist in York

You're getting very carried away now. I had only two things to say about all this: politics is ugly, and some people are getting carried away. However, since you make the disgraceful inference that I'm "a bigot and don't like the truth" from those two things I'm going to have to say more. I don't want to be involved in the gay pride storm in a teacup as it's old news and frankly doesn't concern me but if you can't understand that the gay pride letter stated that they were there to show *gay* kids it's ok to be what they *are*, not to tell all kids they should give it a try, how am I the bigot out of us two? I never report others' posts. I am vehemently against censorship. It's poor form when the Press removes comments. I much prefer the record to stand for everyone to see, for the author to be shown to be the genius or fool they may be. Tell me this Einstein - if I wanted your comments removed... *Why would I quote them?* You could retract your abuse, I would accept your apology.

Why should I apologise to you? 1, I asked you a question, I didn't state you were anything! 2, you only quoted a small portion of the post that was deleted

And I didn't say you stated I said you inferred.

Seems you're another one who happily drops abuse without a care and refuses to hold their hand up and apologise ever for anything.

Worse than bent politicos,that is society's biggest problem at the moment and you are a part of it.

mallory wrote:
Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

mallory wrote:
Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Absolute rubbish !

I saw 'MalloryNorway's tweeted question to Coun Crisp asking for clarification on who she was referring to, and her answer was as false as she is. You don't refer to news and vibes as, 'a rotten apple' it's very poor english, and an even poorer excuse. Coun Crisp is lying. She was caught out, and everyone apart from Mallory knows who she was referring to. We won't be fooled by these cheating Labour bullies !

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

mallory wrote:
Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Absolute rubbish !

I saw 'MalloryNorway's tweeted question to Coun Crisp asking for clarification on who she was referring to, and her answer was as false as she is. You don't refer to news and vibes as, 'a rotten apple' it's very poor english, and an even poorer excuse. Coun Crisp is lying. She was caught out, and everyone apart from Mallory knows who she was referring to. We won't be fooled by these cheating Labour bullies !

Micklegate wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

mallory wrote: Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Absolute rubbish ! I saw 'MalloryNorway's tweeted question to Coun Crisp asking for clarification on who she was referring to, and her answer was as false as she is. You don't refer to news and vibes as, 'a rotten apple' it's very poor english, and an even poorer excuse. Coun Crisp is lying. She was caught out, and everyone apart from Mallory knows who she was referring to. We won't be fooled by these cheating Labour bullies !

Ha ha you couln't make up Sonja Crisp's stupidity!! The twitter account she replied to has been set up for this sole reason and has one follower and follows one person!

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Micklegate wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

mallory wrote: Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Absolute rubbish ! I saw 'MalloryNorway's tweeted question to Coun Crisp asking for clarification on who she was referring to, and her answer was as false as she is. You don't refer to news and vibes as, 'a rotten apple' it's very poor english, and an even poorer excuse. Coun Crisp is lying. She was caught out, and everyone apart from Mallory knows who she was referring to. We won't be fooled by these cheating Labour bullies !

Ha ha you couln't make up Sonja Crisp's stupidity!! The twitter account she replied to has been set up for this sole reason and has one follower and follows one person!

Crisp obviously set up the account herself, and tried to make it look convincing by not answering her own question for a few hours to give the illusion that she hadn't been online or seen it.

This is typical Labour-style spin, manipulation, cheating and lying.

Crisp should be made to stand down. She is a disgrace. Loyal only to Labour, not York. She is not a winner - she's a loser, but when she goes, it will be no loss to York and it's people !!!

Micklegate wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Micklegate wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

mallory wrote: Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Absolute rubbish ! I saw 'MalloryNorway's tweeted question to Coun Crisp asking for clarification on who she was referring to, and her answer was as false as she is. You don't refer to news and vibes as, 'a rotten apple' it's very poor english, and an even poorer excuse. Coun Crisp is lying. She was caught out, and everyone apart from Mallory knows who she was referring to. We won't be fooled by these cheating Labour bullies !

Ha ha you couln't make up Sonja Crisp's stupidity!! The twitter account she replied to has been set up for this sole reason and has one follower and follows one person!

Crisp obviously set up the account herself, and tried to make it look convincing by not answering her own question for a few hours to give the illusion that she hadn't been online or seen it.

This is typical Labour-style spin, manipulation, cheating and lying.

Crisp should be made to stand down. She is a disgrace. Loyal only to Labour, not York. She is not a winner - she's a loser, but when she goes, it will be no loss to York and it's people !!!

The ironic thing is she would have been facing accusations of offensive and insulting behaviour, now she can add lying and deception to the list!

mallory wrote:
Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) "..

she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ".

she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

mallory wrote:
Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) "..

she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ".

she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

nearlyman wrote:
What a shame this all is for York. I was rather hoping Mr Alexander would get the call and abandon York for the greater things he clearly believes are out there for him. Trouble is, yet another diabolical PR disaster is going to mean he will be leeching off the fat of York for considerably longer than was his master plan. This unfortunately is the politics of today. Gone are the days when all councillors were doing it for the greater good for little recompense to themselves. Until the electorate grow up and actually vote for someone who is genuinely interested in doing good for their community rather than spouting their tired political standpoints we will continue to be lumbered with the imbeciles and political aspirant nobodies we currently endure. Who on earth would employ JA out of politics ? Huge credit to councillor Jeffries for making what must have been a tough decision...........a

nd you residents of Foxwood, make sure you reward her for it next time round...........when

ever it is.

York1900 wrote:

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

I used to vote LABOUR but have found that LABOUR was no better than the Tories or the Lib Dems
They all seem to be in it for there own gain rather that for the betterment of the people who elected them

Cllr Jeffries did the right thing in quiting LABOUR for the way LABOUR are doing the Governments bidding on cuts

People put LABOUR in power in York thinking they were going to get some thing better


.

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Micklegate wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

mallory wrote: Councillor Crisp has kindly clarified what she meant by her tweet that included "Rotten apple out the way and move on;) ".. she tweeted this morning: "I'm referring to rotten news, rotten vibes.... ". she was not, by her own statement, referring to Councillor Lynn Jeffries as a 'rotten apple'.

Absolute rubbish ! I saw 'MalloryNorway's tweeted question to Coun Crisp asking for clarification on who she was referring to, and her answer was as false as she is. You don't refer to news and vibes as, 'a rotten apple' it's very poor english, and an even poorer excuse. Coun Crisp is lying. She was caught out, and everyone apart from Mallory knows who she was referring to. We won't be fooled by these cheating Labour bullies !

Ha ha you couln't make up Sonja Crisp's stupidity!! The twitter account she replied to has been set up for this sole reason and has one follower and follows one person!

Crisp obviously set up the account herself, and tried to make it look convincing by not answering her own question for a few hours to give the illusion that she hadn't been online or seen it.

This is typical Labour-style spin, manipulation, cheating and lying.

Crisp should be made to stand down. She is a disgrace. Loyal only to Labour, not York. She is not a winner - she's a loser, but when she goes, it will be no loss to York and it's people !!!

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults.

Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories.

But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me.

And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults. Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories. But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me. And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

yorkispants wrote:

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults.

Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories.

But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me.

And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

its plaggy terry

Torycouncil2015 wrote:

yorkispants wrote:

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults.

Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories.

But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me.

And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

its plaggy terry

Far fetched. The depths this woman will stoop to surprise no one

This Mallory didn't exist before or since this exchange

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults.

Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories.

But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me.

And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

oi oi savaloy wrote:

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults.

Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories.

But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me.

And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

Sonja! We know you are on here and we know you read this posts!

You personally came on the press site to have a go at me a few weeks back !

Now stand up and be accountable for your "rotten apple" comment on here!


Or are you really that 2 faced?

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults. Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories. But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me. And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

Ha, ha, ha..... you can't be serious ?

@MalloryNorway's twitter account was set up purposely to ask 'Red Sonja' Crisp to clarify the 'rotten apples' gaff, who then tried to deny she was referring to Coun Lynn Jeffries.

Mallory's twiiter account had one follower and was following one other - who do readers think it was ? It was @YorkStories ! I bet who is behind this twitter page, is also Mallory, and is a very good fiend or stooge of Red Sonja ? !!!!

If this is as far fetched as you suggest, come on tell us who you are, and if you know Coun Crisp ?

Torycouncil2015 wrote:

yorkispants wrote:

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k wrote:
This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults.

Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories.

But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me.

And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

its plaggy terry

Far fetched. The depths this woman will stoop to surprise no one

This Mallory didn't exist before or since this exchange

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k wrote:
Micklegate, 9.37pm ... The 'YorkStories' isn't the council one, if that's what you mean. Their project is yorkstories2012.com. Nothing to do with me. I don't know Cllr Crisp. Your allegations of allegiance seem a bit bizarre.

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k wrote:

Torycouncil2015 wrote:

yorkispants wrote:

www.yorkstories.co.u k wrote: This page has become rather unreadable, hasn't it. Shame so many other agendas get dragged in, and personal insults. Was pleased to see that @MalloryNorway asked Cllr Crisp directly about the tweet, and I retweeted it, @YorkStories. But in response to a suggestion made above, @MalloryNorway is not me. And the conspiracy theory that Cllr Crisp invented @MalloryNorway in order to ask herself a question also seems a bit far-fetched (!)

its plaggy terry

Far fetched. The depths this woman will stoop to surprise no one This Mallory didn't exist before or since this exchange

Torycouncil2015 - I think there are other existences apart from on Twitter. Anyone who thinks ww.yorkstories.co.uk is Sonja Crisp ... totally wrong, so wrong it's almost funny. I can't believe the world's not heard of the 'York Stories Turf Wars'?

rose_of_york wrote:
Control yourselves please. One councillor is being canonised, the rest demonised yet none of us know the truth. I wonder if you would all be so venomous if you had to include your real names? Like it or not local government is dominated by various political parties who all have to make decisions within their budgets. Independents can say what they think but never have the responsibility of delivering the services. If you think you could do better put yourself up for election next time, or if there's a by-election when Cllr Jeffries shows her integrity by resigning and standing as an independent.

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k wrote:
Does anyone on here actually use Twitter?

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k wrote:
Micklegate, I can see why you might have seen things the way you did, but can't see why you're persisting with it.

Unfortunately @MalloryNorway hasn't returned to comment, and is presumably doing normal weekend things.

Councillors seem to be used to people popping up on Twitter to ask questions, and it seems fairly common to set up an account just to do that. Not bizarre at all.

You could of course do the same, and ask your questions directly to Cllr Crisp and @MalloryNorway

My own theory is that you're perhaps an employee of the Press, keeping the debate going ;)

mallory wrote:
Im genuinely surprised at the direction this thread has taken but, to clarify: I'm not Sonja Crisp. I'm not YorkStories. Google 'Signy Mallory Norway' to find the inspiration for my name. I did create the twitter account to ask the question, and felt the answer was worthy of repeating here. Correctly i feel, given the response, although i never imagined that anyone would think i was Councillor Crisp. I'm unable to think of anyway in which i can prove any of the above, but thats the nature of internet forums... and twitter...

Hoofarted wrote:
Relax Scarlet pimper. At the moment, psychiatric care is free still. But if! and I stress "If" the party creating the budget cut backs that impose the restrictions onto local councils get their way. The NHS wont be free and it will cost you for any psychiatric care issues.

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Relax Scarlet pimper. At the moment, psychiatric care is free still. But if! and I stress "If" the party creating the budget cut backs that impose the restrictions onto local councils get their way. The NHS wont be free and it will cost you for any psychiatric care issues.

No worries........ for you at the moment then ? Hope the free treatment you and you looney lefty buddies are receiving is a success.

Think you have just outed yourself, with your detailed knowledge of care for those suffering from mental illness.

Buzz Light-year wrote:
If democratic politics is a cornerstone of civilisation, why is it so uncivil?

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Buzz Light-year wrote: If democratic politics is a cornerstone of civilisation, why is it so uncivil?

You'll have to ask 'Red Sonja' aka 'Rotten Apple' Crisp ?

peter123456 wrote:
You are right about one thing York does deserve better. This week in your York press issue are two Islamic items. "York mosque plans get the go-ahead and Islamic event cancelled at 11th hour". Why can we not post comments about these issues. This is WRONG WRONG WRONG. We can comment on all other issues just about so why not these.

desmond tiblets wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Relax Scarlet pimper. At the moment, psychiatric care is free still. But if! and I stress "If" the party creating the budget cut backs that impose the restrictions onto local councils get their way. The NHS wont be free and it will cost you for any psychiatric care issues.

No worries........ for you at the moment then ? Hope the free treatment you and you looney lefty buddies are receiving is a success.

Think you have just outed yourself, with your detailed knowledge of care for those suffering from mental illness.

Hoofarted is d.wrigglesworth one of dandy dan's little helpers

Hoofarted wrote:

desmond tiblets wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Relax Scarlet pimper. At the moment, psychiatric care is free still. But if! and I stress "If" the party creating the budget cut backs that impose the restrictions onto local councils get their way. The NHS wont be free and it will cost you for any psychiatric care issues.

No worries........ for you at the moment then ? Hope the free treatment you and you looney lefty buddies are receiving is a success.

Think you have just outed yourself, with your detailed knowledge of care for those suffering from mental illness.

Hoofarted is d.wrigglesworth one of dandy dan's little helpers

The paranoia continues to spill from them who despise the tory imposed cuts placed on York council :=)

Keep guessing. I suspect some false twitter account will appear next

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:

desmond tiblets wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Relax Scarlet pimper. At the moment, psychiatric care is free still. But if! and I stress "If" the party creating the budget cut backs that impose the restrictions onto local councils get their way. The NHS wont be free and it will cost you for any psychiatric care issues.

No worries........ for you at the moment then ? Hope the free treatment you and you looney lefty buddies are receiving is a success.

Think you have just outed yourself, with your detailed knowledge of care for those suffering from mental illness.

Hoofarted is d.wrigglesworth one of dandy dan's little helpers

The paranoia continues to spill from them who despise the tory imposed cuts placed on York council :=)

Keep guessing. I suspect some false twitter account will appear next

It's the Alexander cuts, the Labour lying, cheating, arrogance, insults and political game-ploaying that York people really despise !

Are you part of it, or just condone it ?

Hoofarted wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:

desmond tiblets wrote:

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:

Hoofarted wrote: Relax Scarlet pimper. At the moment, psychiatric care is free still. But if! and I stress "If" the party creating the budget cut backs that impose the restrictions onto local councils get their way. The NHS wont be free and it will cost you for any psychiatric care issues.

No worries........ for you at the moment then ? Hope the free treatment you and you looney lefty buddies are receiving is a success. Think you have just outed yourself, with your detailed knowledge of care for those suffering from mental illness.

Hoofarted is d.wrigglesworth one of dandy dan's little helpers

The paranoia continues to spill from them who despise the tory imposed cuts placed on York council :=) Keep guessing. I suspect some false twitter account will appear next

It's the Alexander cuts, the Labour lying, cheating, arrogance, insults and political game-ploaying that York people really despise ! Are you part of it, or just condone it ?

Along with the paranoia. Insane rants and the inability to see the wood for the trees e.g The Cuts come initially from central government. The spellings slipping now also. "Game *Playing*" Calm down you angry fool. Another two years and the coalition will be kicked out and then the cuts will be reversed and James will correct the rationing created by Central Government.

desmond tiblets wrote:
Was driving down leeman road today had to swerve suddenly to avoid counsellor Simpson laing's outrageous bouffant hairdo

Hoofarted wrote:
Pimper nut. You don't speak for the residents. You speak for yourself and I actually find it amusing reading someone so angry over essential cuts to avoid council tax increases.

Your responses are repeating now. I think it's time to let it go and hope the people of York turn in favour of the tory party, unlike the latest national opinion polls are showing.

Now to show i'm not a total cruel teaser. I will allow you to have the final rant .. all be it a repeat ;=)

Hoofarted wrote:
Pimper nut. You don't speak for the residents. You speak for yourself and I actually find it amusing reading someone so angry over essential cuts to avoid council tax increases.

Your responses are repeating now. I think it's time to let it go and hope the people of York turn in favour of the tory party, unlike the latest national opinion polls are showing.

Now to show i'm not a total cruel teaser. I will allow you to have the final rant .. all be it a repeat ;=)

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Pimper nut. You don't speak for the residents. You speak for yourself and I actually find it amusing reading someone so angry over essential cuts to avoid council tax increases.

Your responses are repeating now. I think it's time to let it go and hope the people of York turn in favour of the tory party, unlike the latest national opinion polls are showing.

Now to show i'm not a total cruel teaser. I will allow you to have the final rant .. all be it a repeat ;=)

proof that hoofarted is a blinkered labour voting idiot!

council tax DID increase, and we still got cuts in services!



but no worries the chief exec got something like a 108% pay rise..

Hoofarted wrote:
Pimper nut. You don't speak for the residents. You speak for yourself and I actually find it amusing reading someone so angry over essential cuts to avoid council tax increases.

Your responses are repeating now. I think it's time to let it go and hope the people of York turn in favour of the tory party, unlike the latest national opinion polls are showing.

Now to show i'm not a total cruel teaser. I will allow you to have the final rant .. all be it a repeat ;=)

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Pimper nut. You don't speak for the residents. You speak for yourself and I actually find it amusing reading someone so angry over essential cuts to avoid council tax increases.

Your responses are repeating now. I think it's time to let it go and hope the people of York turn in favour of the tory party, unlike the latest national opinion polls are showing.

Now to show i'm not a total cruel teaser. I will allow you to have the final rant .. all be it a repeat ;=)

proof that hoofarted is a blinkered labour voting idiot!

council tax DID increase, and we still got cuts in services!



but no worries the chief exec got something like a 108% pay rise..

oldgoat wrote:

oi oi savaloy wrote:

Hoofarted wrote:
Pimper nut. You don't speak for the residents. You speak for yourself and I actually find it amusing reading someone so angry over essential cuts to avoid council tax increases.

Your responses are repeating now. I think it's time to let it go and hope the people of York turn in favour of the tory party, unlike the latest national opinion polls are showing.

Now to show i'm not a total cruel teaser. I will allow you to have the final rant .. all be it a repeat ;=)

proof that hoofarted is a blinkered labour voting idiot!

council tax DID increase, and we still got cuts in services!



but no worries the chief exec got something like a 108% pay rise..

Did she?
That would put her on something like £250,000 a year (rough guess).

Back in the real world, council staff have been on a pay freeze for the last few years, like most of the rest of the country.

Hoofarted wrote:
It's clear to all that, the closure of the Asylums by Thatchers Care in The Community dogma policy, has seen many of the delusional paranoid inpatients adopt York Press's website to voice their confusions.