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York transport chief Steve Galloway claims traffic survey was ‘flawed’

YORK’S transport chief has claimed a survey of the city’s traffic network which ruled out congestion charging did not give residents enough choice.

A public consultation exercise on tackling gridlock has decided imposing a drivers’ tax should not happen and ways of making walking, cycling and public transport more attractive should be looked at instead.

A report presented to City of York Council’s executive this week, stated providing better bus services and looking at creating a central freight depot received widespread public support.

But Coun Steve Galloway, the authority’s executive member for city strategy, said the survey was “flawed” because it offered “limited” options, claiming residents only had one choice if they did not support road-charging measures.

He also said the findings placed insufficient importance on upgrading the outer ring road and that this must remain a priority under the council’s Local Transport Plan (LTP).

“If the public had been allowed to say they did not favour any of the options, we would have had an indication of whether they preferred something else,” he said.

“The recommended option does not allow for any improvements to the highway network or include proposals to support York’s northern by-pass, so we cannot say the findings should become a cornerstone of the Local Transport Plan.

“I don’t believe there is any chance this city is going to get hundreds of millions of pounds in Government funding for transport, so the emphasis must be on getting the best value for each pound invested.

“The report is a valuable and interesting contribution to the LTP, but I don’t believe residents’ real priorities have been correctly identified.”

Scrutiny committee chairman Coun Dave Merrett said the recommended option reflected “the most important issues residents identified with”.

He said: “We should continue to examine innovative and creative ways of delivering it, such as looking for additional funding sources.

“We felt the special nature of York meant there would be a good case to put to the Government for it to receive special consideration in terms of funding. If we are only partially successful, we must look at how we prioritise what we take forward.”

Comments(15)

leont says...
9:31am Thu 22 Jul 10

Of course York needs a congestion charge. It's a shame the council, including Cllr Galloway, show no leadership on this. York needs a Ken Livingstone!

As for enlarging the ring road: Surely everyone knows by now that this doesn't reduce congestion, just causes more elsewhere? There's really no excuse for a council 'transport chief' to parade his ignorance of transport issues like this.

meme says...
9:33am Thu 22 Jul 10

WE all know there is no hope of substantially upgrading the norther ring road..There is NO money
What money is available should be considered very carefully and used to maximum effect by squeezing every last penny of value from it and not wasting it on schemes that were overpriced and generally not welcomed or successful ie Clifton green or Blossom St

Garrowby Turnoff says...
9:44am Thu 22 Jul 10

If upgrading the ring road means congestion charges - I vote for a bit of queuing. Now, upgrading the A64... that's essential for everyone from a safety aspect, whereas the ring road is not a fatal accident blackspot.

B.Dole says...
11:36am Thu 22 Jul 10

The way I read it is simple.... people flatly rejected the first idea for congestion charging. So Mr.Galloway in all his wisdom nullifies the results and will try again... i assume it will be no different from previous loaded questionnaires railroading people to one single conclusion. This wont stop until congestion charging gets the green light. we're not Manchester, we're not London... get over it!

Abstemious says...
11:49am Thu 22 Jul 10

You couldn't make this up.
A survey taken under Galloway's supervision doesn't give him the response he wants so it's "flawed".
What's really sad is that, after all these years of Big Steve proving how useless he is, people still listen to him.

HeidTheBa' says...
12:08pm Thu 22 Jul 10

Oh yeah - wonderful. The turkeys refused to vote for Christmas so, by definition, the survey must have been flawed!! They will no doubt now adopt the EU gambit of simply repeating the survey until people become sufficiently p|ssed off with it and give the result that they want. Then they can introduce their **** congestion charging and turn the centre of York into a desolate waste-land. Why is it that local government seems to attract nothing but power-crazed, brain-dead, control freak morons?

Von_Dutch says...
1:40pm Thu 22 Jul 10

Abstemious wrote:
You couldn't make this up. A survey taken under Galloway's supervision doesn't give him the response he wants so it's "flawed". What's really sad is that, after all these years of Big Steve proving how useless he is, people still listen to him.
Hate to point it out, but this survey wasn't done under Big Steve's direction. It was the opposing Political Groups who commissioned it (i.e. Cllr Merrett = Labour) And although i disagree with Cllr G on a lot of things concerning York, he's always said that he doesn't want congestion charging.

B.Dole says...
2:02pm Thu 22 Jul 10

If that's the case, and CC was flatly rejected why on earth would be push to have Another survey commissioned on the subject?

AngryandFrustrated says...
2:09pm Thu 22 Jul 10

HeidTheBa' wrote:
Oh yeah - wonderful. The turkeys refused to vote for Christmas so, by definition, the survey must have been flawed!! They will no doubt now adopt the EU gambit of simply repeating the survey until people become sufficiently p|ssed off with it and give the result that they want. Then they can introduce their **** congestion charging and turn the centre of York into a desolate waste-land. Why is it that local government seems to attract nothing but power-crazed, brain-dead, control freak morons?
Excellent posting - couldn't agree more. It does have a whiff of the Irish about it and their initial refusal to accept whichever European Treaty they were voting on.

PKH says...
3:44pm Thu 22 Jul 10

"A public consultation exercise on tackling gridlock has decided imposing a drivers’ tax should not happen and ways of making walking, cycling and public transport more attractive should be looked at instead."

Cheaper fares and better service would make public transport more attractive, Firest have made it less attractive.

pedalling paul says...
9:45pm Thu 22 Jul 10

Upgrading the ORR doesn't neccesarily mean dualling. The pinch points are the existing roundabouts. Upgraduing these is much cheaper than dualling. Some roundabouts are being tackled, but others are likely to fall by the wayside for the time being, due to Govt. funding changes.
An even smaller alternative spend, with useful benefits would be to redress the severance effect of the ORR upon non-motorised travellers who need to cross it. More cycle and pedestrian underpasses or bridges would create alternative choices to the car for many local journeys.

TooRelaxed says...
11:13pm Thu 22 Jul 10

Amazing hypocrisy here. And not Mr Galloway, but the commentators.
What Mr G is saying if you actually read the article is exactly what everyone was saying when the survey came out:
That there weren't enough options for the people who didn't want a charge and that it was weighted towards a charge.
Hey what's the point of reading a story when you can just knee-jerk the axe you like to grind, eh?

LibDem says...
7:41am Fri 23 Jul 10

Liberal Democrats in York have always opposed the introduction of a local congestion charge. It is a crude weapon which impacts particularly unfairly on the less well off. In a City heavily dependant on attracting visitors it sends the wrong message to those who might be thinking of visiting our tourist attractions.
If central government institute a national road pricing system then so be it. There is some logic in paying more to drive at the busiest times of the day. Most residents would expect any revenue gained to be hypothecated to be spent on improvements to the transport network.
Ironically, the more successful a congestion charge is, in deterring cars from entering the City, the lower the income. Hence, progressively, less becomes available to invest in alternative public transport options.
The headline to the article could be misleading for some.
There will be no second referendum on charging. There will be a final consultation with residents in the late autumn on the Councils long term transport policy.
The decision of the Council’s Executive means that improvements to the northern by pass will remain in the plan as will more localised refinements to the highways network which are aimed at reducing accidents and easing congestion pressure points.

piaggio says...
6:48pm Fri 23 Jul 10

which are aimed at reducing accidents and easing congestion pressure points.

well . stop messing about with the roads

Irate from Strensall says...
9:01pm Fri 23 Jul 10

One of the man problems with the outer ring road is putting the Park and Ride sites on the inside of the ring not the outside. All the traffic they are truing to take out of York then clogs the road up at the roundabouts.

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