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Martin Stot throws spaghetti over Father Tim Jones


THE priest at the centre of the storm about shoplifting has had a bucket of spaghetti and ravioli poured on him.

Father Tim Jones, the parish priest of St Lawrence and St Hilda, had finished his sermon on Sunday and left the church in Lawrence Street by the rear when Martin Stot threw a bucket of spaghetti and ravioli at him – a reference to Father Jones saying it was better for the hungry and desperate to steal tinned ravioli from a supermarket than to commit violent crime.

Mr Stot, 48, of Lawrence Street, said he filled the bucket with 30 cans of spaghetti and ravioli to throw over Father Jones as he felt the priest’s comments could encourage young people to steal.

He said: “One theft could be on their record for ten years. It would be difficult for them to get a job.

“I was just offended by what he said. I just got this thing in my head where I thought I would make my own little protest.”

Mr Stot, who did not want to show his full face in the picture above, said he bought the tinned food from Asda and hid the bucket in a phone box while he waited for Father Jones to emerge from the church.

When Father Jones came out, Mr Stot threw half of the bucket’s contents down Father Jones’s robes. He said the vicar then stopped to allow him to throw the rest of the spaghetti, although he did not. Mr Stot said he had considered whether his actions would be construed as assault, but decided that his protest was worth making.

Father Jones said it was initially very frightening until he realised Mr Stot meant him no physical harm. He would not be complaining to police.

He said: “It was a frightening and humbling experience, as was the intention. In conversation with the man afterwards, it emerged that his has been a very hard life indeed.

“Last week he saw a TV interview with me and had formed the mistaken belief that I was laughing at the poor and bereaved because I have family and money.”

The vicar, whose sermon was reported around the world after first being revealed in The Press, said when he realised Mr Stot did not intend to hurt him but humiliate him, he decided to stay where he was and let him continue.

Father Jones said he was surprised by the reaction of people to his original sermon, in which he said for the truly desperate and hungry it was better to shoplift from major supermarkets than commit violent crime against people to get money.

Trevor Martin, of St Lawrence’s parochial church council, said the spaghetti attack was “a bit of a stupid thing to do”.

He said he supported the vicar’s original sermon. “I agree with what he was trying to get over but maybe he could have come up with a different way of expressing himself.

“I would much rather that someone who had exhausted all the avenues available to them shoplifted something to keep them going rather than break into my house and attack my wife," he said.


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1speedisalluneed, everywhere & nowhere baby says...
10:18am Wed 30 Dec 09

I hope he gets charged for assault. No matter how hard his life has been or what his thoughts are on the subject nothing gives him the right to carry out an unprovoked attack of this nature? just shows the mentality of some people.

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:18am Wed 30 Dec 09

but is it ok to throw spaghetti on people cos if it is I am off to Asda to "get" some and chuck it on my boss

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:19am Wed 30 Dec 09

1speedisalluneed wrote:
I hope he gets charged for assault. No matter how hard his life has been or what his thoughts are on the subject nothing gives him the right to carry out an unprovoked attack of this nature? just shows the mentality of some people.
you are kidding...right

1speedisalluneed, everywhere & nowhere baby says...
10:22am Wed 30 Dec 09

nobodyknowswhoiam wrote:
1speedisalluneed wrote: I hope he gets charged for assault. No matter how hard his life has been or what his thoughts are on the subject nothing gives him the right to carry out an unprovoked attack of this nature? just shows the mentality of some people.
you are kidding...right
Nope.

Soothsayer17, York says...
10:23am Wed 30 Dec 09

Spaghetti and ravioli?
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Guessing this is the Catholic response?

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:23am Wed 30 Dec 09

An attack of spaghett!!!????????

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:24am Wed 30 Dec 09

Soothsayer17 wrote:
Spaghetti and ravioli? . Guessing this is the Catholic response?
tee hee, good one

The Cat Amongst The Pigeons, Ye Olde Citee of Yorke says...
10:25am Wed 30 Dec 09

nobodyknowswhoiam wrote:
1speedisalluneed wrote:
I hope he gets charged for assault. No matter how hard his life has been or what his thoughts are on the subject nothing gives him the right to carry out an unprovoked attack of this nature? just shows the mentality of some people.
you are kidding...right
It's widely considered that taking food from supermarkets to survive is theft, so yes, surely this is assault.

1speedisalluneed, everywhere & nowhere baby says...
10:26am Wed 30 Dec 09

Soothsayer17 wrote:
Spaghetti and ravioli? . Guessing this is the Catholic response?
No its the vegetarian response, doesnt matter what he threw he still in my mind assaulted Father Jones. Had he thrown the same at a Police officer I imagine he would be in court today.

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:26am Wed 30 Dec 09

what would be the preferred way to get his point across??

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:27am Wed 30 Dec 09

1speedisalluneed wrote:
Soothsayer17 wrote: Spaghetti and ravioli? . Guessing this is the Catholic response?
No its the vegetarian response, doesnt matter what he threw he still in my mind assaulted Father Jones. Had he thrown the same at a Police officer I imagine he would be in court today.
Do you think he would? If he had a hard life and some probs??

1speedisalluneed, everywhere & nowhere baby says...
10:31am Wed 30 Dec 09

nobodyknowswhoiam wrote:
what would be the preferred way to get his point across??
Verbally, by letter, e mail or by spelling it out in alphabetti spaghetti are some ideas that spring to mind.
If he was that concerned about the young why did he just not donate the tins of food to them?

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
10:36am Wed 30 Dec 09

Well it is another argument with Fr Tim in the middle, there are two sides to every coin!!! I think he proved his point by the way he knew best. Is this a crime?

AdmiralNN, Nether Poppleton says...
10:44am Wed 30 Dec 09

Just the look of Martin and the fact he did this just to get in the paper makes me want to punch him in the face.

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
11:08am Wed 30 Dec 09

AdmiralNN wrote:
Just the look of Martin and the fact he did this just to get in the paper makes me want to punch him in the face.
That would be assault me thinks....

scooterboy, york says...
11:08am Wed 30 Dec 09

MAMAMIA he's opened a can of beans now

A taxpayer, York says...
11:09am Wed 30 Dec 09

You'll have to take a number and join the queue.....

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
11:13am Wed 30 Dec 09

Actually I like Fr Tim and I have started to take an interest in him and what he says. Which parish was he in before St Lawrences I wonder?
Gotta go swimming now.LOL

TooRad, York says...
11:13am Wed 30 Dec 09

Why does The Press insist on calling this Father Tim bloke "The Priest Who Said It Was Ok To Shoplift" when he didn't?
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How does a 'think of the hungry poor' message become 'waste 30 tins of food' in someone's mind?
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Has my city gone insane? Did I wake up on Bizarro world?

Zetkin, York says...
11:33am Wed 30 Dec 09

Well done Father Tim for his response to this. His "turn the other cheek" response, and taking the time to listen to his attacker will not, I imagine, make headlines around the world.
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Shame on The Press for printing a photograph of this idiot (I'm not a Christian, so don't have to be nice about this) and making some sort of hero out of him.
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Next time I feel the need to assault a priest because I disagree with him, I'll expect The Press to send a photographer round to snap me hiding behind my size 12 boots.

nobodyknowswhoiam, says...
11:46am Wed 30 Dec 09

changed my view whilst reading all this....he was wrong to throw the spaghetti....not acceptable...Good on Fr Tim

1speedisalluneed, everywhere & nowhere baby says...
11:53am Wed 30 Dec 09

nobodyknowswhoiam wrote:
changed my view whilst reading all this....he was wrong to throw the spaghetti....not acceptable...Good on Fr Tim
I agree, Father Tim certainly came out as the more compassionate of the 2.

redr, York says...
12:15pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Once again Father Tim shows true Christian example.

Silver, York says...
12:49pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Shouldn't the headline of this story be....Idiot doesn't understand full meaning of sermon so wastes money and credibility proving his stupidity? After all if he wanted to confront him couldn't he have just asked him to explain himself in full without using spaghetti? I think Father Tim would have happily invited him into the church for a full and frank discussion without needing spaghetti.

evelyn_trent, York says...
12:58pm Wed 30 Dec 09

This is getting pasta joke.

1speedisalluneed, everywhere & nowhere baby says...
1:13pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Silver wrote:
Shouldn't the headline of this story be....Idiot doesn't understand full meaning of sermon so wastes money and credibility proving his stupidity? After all if he wanted to confront him couldn't he have just asked him to explain himself in full without using spaghetti? I think Father Tim would have happily invited him into the church for a full and frank discussion without needing spaghetti.
Spot on, couldn't have put it better myself.

Thrasher, York says...
1:31pm Wed 30 Dec 09

How many needy people could have had a basic meal with 30 cans of food?

This Stot character is clearly a publicity seeking moron and shame on The Press for giving him it.

It's a pity Father Tim wasn't more of a John Prescott type character and had given Stot a bit of "God's Own Medicine"

hearallaboutit, york says...
1:48pm Wed 30 Dec 09

perhaps we cant condone these actions,however if a homeless skint person shoplifted such items,he would not only get a criminal record,he would be put in jail for having no fixed abode,the cells of the police station,processed,as
sociate with other "criminals" ,also at what level would the theft be acceptable? a tin of cheap food or a "the very best of"item,then what about later/the next day.Would he have a can opener? Father Tim and this event highlight a problem that everyone(almost) with their "resources",and family can play nimby and ignore.Perhaps Father Tim could use this oppertunity to found a charity gathering "resorces" to give to existing institutions like Shelter/others. With the present economic situation these problems wont go away! what about the 10 Commandments?

CitizenWhy, Newport says...
5:06pm Wed 30 Dec 09

So this loony wants to encourage youth to commit assault?

bloodaxe, York says...
5:12pm Wed 30 Dec 09

hearallaboutit wrote:
perhaps we cant condone these actions,however if a homeless skint person shoplifted such items,he would not only get a criminal record,he would be put in jail for having no fixed abode,the cells of the police station,processed,as sociate with other "criminals" ,also at what level would the theft be acceptable? a tin of cheap food or a "the very best of"item,then what about later/the next day.Would he have a can opener? Father Tim and this event highlight a problem that everyone(almost) with their "resources",and family can play nimby and ignore.Perhaps Father Tim could use this oppertunity to found a charity gathering "resorces" to give to existing institutions like Shelter/others. With the present economic situation these problems wont go away! what about the 10 Commandments?
Or The Magnificat and the Beatitudes ?

lynn-york, York says...
5:33pm Wed 30 Dec 09

As a member of both churches I can confirm that Father Tim and his congregations support many good causes including Arclight, Carecent and CYC homeless hostels this Christmas alone as well as sending many boxes of goods out to Zimbabwe. We also collected for charity whilst singing carols.
We have ongoing plans to continue our support to Arclight and Carecent throughout the year as well as many other organisations and charities so I can assure you that Father Tim and his churches really do help out those in need.

GoodDoc, says...
5:47pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Haha, I had to laugh when reading this. What an absolute imbecile. He's very lucky he chose Mr Jones to do it, because a lot of people would have no hesitation in taking this twit to court. Seriously, how stupid can you be? Completely represents the kind of imbecile who is misunderstanding the whole sermon fiasco. What is a society supposed to do when people don't have the intellect to look into sensationalist fragments they read in the press.

A taxpayer, York says...
5:56pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Let's play Stoty spotting - easy to find, works for the council I'm told.

the butler, cowichan Bay says...
6:08pm Wed 30 Dec 09

This man is a twerp, Had he given to Father Tim the spaghetti in the tins, so that someone in need could have some food the donation would have put a vastly different light on this case

monkeh12, York says...
7:53pm Wed 30 Dec 09

This spaghetti man clearly has mental health issues and is in need of serious help. Tim does not deserve this treatment.
I for one support the message that Tim is trying to get across, and think that people who do this, and also who buy tinned rubbish at Asda should not be allowed out in public. Arrest this spaghetti tit now.

The Vicar, York says...
10:21pm Wed 30 Dec 09

Well done spaghetti man!



I hope your actions teach this religious fool he needs to keep his “pro” theft speeches to himself

H8r, york says...
11:24pm Wed 30 Dec 09

monkeh12 wrote:
This spaghetti man clearly has mental health issues and is in need of serious help. Tim does not deserve this treatment.
I for one support the message that Tim is trying to get across, and think that people who do this, and also who buy tinned rubbish at Asda should not be allowed out in public. Arrest this spaghetti tit now.
How can you say he has serious mental health issues? So anyone who commits a crime is mentally ill in your eyes?

Anyway, I thought this article was about Father Ted...ah well...

GoodDoc, says...
12:20am Thu 31 Dec 09

Duh. Another one that didn't get it.

monkeh12, York says...
5:20am Thu 31 Dec 09

H8r I think you have missed the point of what I was trying to say. I clearly mean that this particular man, not all criminals have serious mental health issues.

Please read the comment and digest it before commenting.

Cheers

sammy07, buttercrambe says...
2:29pm Thu 31 Dec 09

His very own spaghetti western!
Personally i think he should have done it to cycling cylops heppy.

again, york says...
3:18pm Thu 31 Dec 09

The Vicar wrote:
Well done spaghetti man! I hope your actions teach this religious fool he needs to keep his “pro” theft speeches to himself
..but he wasn't pro-theft.

Whereas Mr Stot clearly decided to assault him rather than discuss the issue that Father Tim was raising.

The plight of the very poorest members of society is not simply a religious issue anyway.

WA Boy, Atwell,Perth says...
7:05pm Thu 31 Dec 09

Can't beleive he used spaghetti from a tin instead of fresh home made spaghetti. Some people are so lazy !!

idlehousewife, York says...
1:34pm Fri 1 Jan 10

Seems to me he opened a can of worms !

idlehousewife, York says...
1:34pm Fri 1 Jan 10

Seems to me he opened a can of worms !

GoodDoc, says...
3:28pm Sat 2 Jan 10

again wrote:
The Vicar wrote:
Well done spaghetti man! I hope your actions teach this religious fool he needs to keep his “pro” theft speeches to himself
..but he wasn't pro-theft.

Whereas Mr Stot clearly decided to assault him rather than discuss the issue that Father Tim was raising.

The plight of the very poorest members of society is not simply a religious issue anyway.
Don't waste your time! 'The Vicar' doesn't have a chance of understanding the message of the sermon. It's been spelt out to him several times using increasingly simple language and he still reckons Mr Jones ordered his congregation to go out and steal! Duh.

MattRSJ, York says...
3:13pm Sun 3 Jan 10

But it's OK to steal tinned food from supermarkets. God's Messenger (Ftr. Jones) said so, so it MUST be right.

Sec word: pool-take

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Martin Stot threw spaghetti and ravioli over Father Tim Jones. Father Tim Jones

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