Big wheel boss set on York riverside

Big wheel boss set on York riverside

The Yorkshire Wheel at the National Railway Museum

An artist’s impression of a 1959 proposal for Riverside Gardens, in North Street, York. The view is facing Lendal Bridge

First published in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , News editor

IT COULD be one of the biggest Christmas presents ever – or one of the most unwanted.

Controversial plans to build a new big wheel on the banks of the River Ouse could be tabled within weeks, the man behind the scheme has announced.

World Tourist Attractions (WTA), which also ran the old wheel beside the National Railway Museum (NRM), has been working with City of York Council on a detailed planning application for the site, next to the Park Inn Hotel, in North Street.

The firm is still fine-tuning its proposals, but hopes to complete its application soon.

Chief executive Nigel Ward said: “I hope we can get it in before Christmas, but it will depend on how quickly we finish it.”

Plans for a riverside location for the attraction have proved controversial, with conservation groups opposing the idea. As reported in The Press last week, it has also caused a split within the council.

Leader Andrew Waller has voiced concerns, but the authority’s top leisure official Charlie Croft has supported the proposal.

The council could make tens of thousands of pounds by allowing WTA to use the riverside gardens, which were donated to the city by Rowntree’s in 1959. Coun Waller told The Press: “It’s a very small location in a garden area and I think there are concerns about its proximity to the city’s flood defences and the historic church in North Street.”

He said he understood why people in the industry wanted to be in York, but said: “I think there may be other sites where it might fit in better.” Mr Ward, though, said the response had generally been good.

He said: “It seems to have been positive, and we are pressing on.”

A riverside location, near Clifford’s Tower, was mooted for the original wheel, but was opposed by the council.

WTA then teamed up with the NRM instead, but planning permission for the old site was due to run out soon and the wheel was dismantled and moved abroad last month.


1950s plan for ‘Florence of the North’

A DELVE into The Press’s archives gives an intriguing glimpse into “what might have been” in North Street.

Half a century ago, the Joseph Rowntree Village Trust donated a patch of land to the city, hoping to spark a rejuvenation of York’s riverside.

The land was the site of one of Rowntree’s old factories, but the firm turned it into a garden for city residents.

William Wallace, chairman of the trust, handed over the deed to the Lord Mayor of York, Coun AL Philipson, in a ceremony at the Mansion House on April 25, 1959. He said cities such as London, Paris and Florence were centred on their rivers and York, as one of “the world’s choice cities” could be likewise, reported the following day’s Yorkshire Evening Press.

But, he said: “A great deal of the riverside in the city’s centre is really not worthy of the city’s beauty and renown.”

Rowntree’s Cocoa Works Magazine wrote: “Perhaps the donors’ lead would be followed by others, so that, ultimately, a whole stretch of the river might become opened to the public in this way.”

Ten years later, the Viking Hotel was built and the idea of an open bank quashed.

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10:18am Thu 4 Dec 08

bob the builder says...

..with any luck some drunks will push it in the river one night or the parking warden will slap a ticket on it and get it towed!
..with any luck some drunks will push it in the river one night or the parking warden will slap a ticket on it and get it towed! bob the builder
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10:23am Thu 4 Dec 08

robin27 says...

a tourist attraction too far in the wrong position spoiling the only decent view from the Guildhall, City Screen area across the river.
a tourist attraction too far in the wrong position spoiling the only decent view from the Guildhall, City Screen area across the river. robin27
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10:37am Thu 4 Dec 08

Soothsayer says...

As much as I loathe the expression "elephant in the room," I am constantly staggered that none of CoCY's decision-makers (the lamentable Lib Dums aside of course) stand up and state the completely obvious:

This thing is pug-ugly and utterly unsuited to the skyline of one of the most ancient & beautiful cities in the world.

Give it to Blackpool as Christmas pressie and let's never hear of it again.

Still, this is what happens when Lib Dums are put in charge of "culture."
As much as I loathe the expression "elephant in the room," I am constantly staggered that none of CoCY's decision-makers (the lamentable Lib Dums aside of course) stand up and state the completely obvious: This thing is pug-ugly and utterly unsuited to the skyline of one of the most ancient & beautiful cities in the world. Give it to Blackpool as Christmas pressie and let's never hear of it again. Still, this is what happens when Lib Dums are put in charge of "culture." Soothsayer
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10:37am Thu 4 Dec 08

KarenWhite1978 says...

Are they serious? The old one was not too bad - tucked away in trainspotter land, but the idea of placing such a structure in a prime position in a historic city such as York - is probably no surprise, given the unfortunate existence of the "temporary" wheel in London, and the general dumbing down of this fine country since 1997.
Are they serious? The old one was not too bad - tucked away in trainspotter land, but the idea of placing such a structure in a prime position in a historic city such as York - is probably no surprise, given the unfortunate existence of the "temporary" wheel in London, and the general dumbing down of this fine country since 1997. KarenWhite1978
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11:27am Thu 4 Dec 08

Simonon says...

The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.
The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed. Simonon
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11:39am Thu 4 Dec 08

Jails' too good for 'em says...

Leave it where it is or get rid of it.
Leave it where it is or get rid of it. Jails' too good for 'em
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11:40am Thu 4 Dec 08

pedalling paul says...

Simonon wrote:
The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.
1. The Proposal has not yet been formally laid before local Politicians. So please don't slag off the current majority group.
2. No Local Authority has legal power to tell a prospective developer to go away.
3. For all we know, the collective advice to be received by WTA may be that a formal Planning Application is unlikely to be approved. But even if this occurs, WTA can still subsequently take the risk of submitting an Application. Then it will formally have to go through the full process. A Report will eventually be produced for our Politicians to consider for the first time. This will include the Planning Officers recommendations on approval or rejection.
4. If WTA lose, they can risk an appeal. But that costs them even more.
[quote][p][bold]Simonon[/bold] wrote: The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.[/p][/quote]1. The Proposal has not yet been formally laid before local Politicians. So please don't slag off the current majority group. 2. No Local Authority has legal power to tell a prospective developer to go away. 3. For all we know, the collective advice to be received by WTA may be that a formal Planning Application is unlikely to be approved. But even if this occurs, WTA can still subsequently take the risk of submitting an Application. Then it will formally have to go through the full process. A Report will eventually be produced for our Politicians to consider for the first time. This will include the Planning Officers recommendations on approval or rejection. 4. If WTA lose, they can risk an appeal. But that costs them even more. pedalling paul
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11:45am Thu 4 Dec 08

bob the builder says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Simonon wrote: The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.
1. The Proposal has not yet been formally laid before local Politicians. So please don't slag off the current majority group. 2. No Local Authority has legal power to tell a prospective developer to go away. 3. For all we know, the collective advice to be received by WTA may be that a formal Planning Application is unlikely to be approved. But even if this occurs, WTA can still subsequently take the risk of submitting an Application. Then it will formally have to go through the full process. A Report will eventually be produced for our Politicians to consider for the first time. This will include the Planning Officers recommendations on approval or rejection. 4. If WTA lose, they can risk an appeal. But that costs them even more.
A foolhardy LibDem supporter lining himself up for the firing line again. Come the glorious revolution brother.... you'll get deported from York along with the rest of the wooly thinkers who put tourism before local peoples needs.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simonon[/bold] wrote: The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.[/p][/quote]1. The Proposal has not yet been formally laid before local Politicians. So please don't slag off the current majority group. 2. No Local Authority has legal power to tell a prospective developer to go away. 3. For all we know, the collective advice to be received by WTA may be that a formal Planning Application is unlikely to be approved. But even if this occurs, WTA can still subsequently take the risk of submitting an Application. Then it will formally have to go through the full process. A Report will eventually be produced for our Politicians to consider for the first time. This will include the Planning Officers recommendations on approval or rejection. 4. If WTA lose, they can risk an appeal. But that costs them even more. [/p][/quote]A foolhardy LibDem supporter lining himself up for the firing line again. Come the glorious revolution brother.... you'll get deported from York along with the rest of the wooly thinkers who put tourism before local peoples needs. bob the builder
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12:25pm Thu 4 Dec 08

xmob says...

"who put tourism before local peoples needs"

Tourism IS local peoples needs. York doesn't have much else by way of generating revenue.
"who put tourism before local peoples needs" Tourism IS local peoples needs. York doesn't have much else by way of generating revenue. xmob
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12:41pm Thu 4 Dec 08

fate says...

I took my family on the old wheel and was soooo disappointed. York does not have the skyline to merit such a thing. London, okay –with its architecture and land marks. But to be honest once you have seen the Minster …..that’s it! Also the amount they charged for going round three times and not that slowly was expensive for a family (well anyone). Waste of time. If they apply for permission I hope the council take the sensible route and reject it.
I took my family on the old wheel and was soooo disappointed. York does not have the skyline to merit such a thing. London, okay –with its architecture and land marks. But to be honest once you have seen the Minster …..that’s it! Also the amount they charged for going round three times and not that slowly was expensive for a family (well anyone). Waste of time. If they apply for permission I hope the council take the sensible route and reject it. fate
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1:11pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Anniegetyourgun says...

I personally think the thing is an eyesore but if the council really think there is a "need" for this, let them site it in Museum Gardens - it's riverside as demanded by the operator and the council can have it as a neighbour.
I personally think the thing is an eyesore but if the council really think there is a "need" for this, let them site it in Museum Gardens - it's riverside as demanded by the operator and the council can have it as a neighbour. Anniegetyourgun
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2:25pm Thu 4 Dec 08

who2believe says...

Why is this business venture being treat as though it is being bestowed upon us by some benefactor?
Why are they proposing to erect the thing on our land?

No, go and buy or rent a plot of your own.
Why is this business venture being treat as though it is being bestowed upon us by some benefactor? Why are they proposing to erect the thing on our land? No, go and buy or rent a plot of your own. who2believe
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2:55pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Peace says...

Yes the wheel is a disgrace. How dare they put something so ugly in between the beautiful Norwich Union building and the Viking/ Moat House/ whatever it's called now.

Bring back the stocks in Micklegate Holy Trinity for these dirty scroundrels!

York's architecture is pretty awful excusing a few buildings erected along time ago. However temporary this structure maybe it surely will help the city understand that new buildings do not have be sympathetic and thus aesthetically bereft such as the Queens Hotel, the building in which Borders is sited, numerous buildings on Clifford Street, the disgrace that is Hungate, Encore Hotel, Evening Press building, St Saviourgate, Norwich Union building by the river, Swinegate, former Davygate centre, Hilton Hotel, Hotels on Piccadilly and the list could go on!
Yes the wheel is a disgrace. How dare they put something so ugly in between the beautiful Norwich Union building and the Viking/ Moat House/ whatever it's called now. Bring back the stocks in Micklegate Holy Trinity for these dirty scroundrels! York's architecture is pretty awful excusing a few buildings erected along time ago. However temporary this structure maybe it surely will help the city understand that new buildings do not have be sympathetic and thus aesthetically bereft such as the Queens Hotel, the building in which Borders is sited, numerous buildings on Clifford Street, the disgrace that is Hungate, Encore Hotel, Evening Press building, St Saviourgate, Norwich Union building by the river, Swinegate, former Davygate centre, Hilton Hotel, Hotels on Piccadilly and the list could go on! Peace
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3:29pm Thu 4 Dec 08

pedalling paul says...

bob the builder wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Simonon wrote: The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.
1. The Proposal has not yet been formally laid before local Politicians. So please don't slag off the current majority group. 2. No Local Authority has legal power to tell a prospective developer to go away. 3. For all we know, the collective advice to be received by WTA may be that a formal Planning Application is unlikely to be approved. But even if this occurs, WTA can still subsequently take the risk of submitting an Application. Then it will formally have to go through the full process. A Report will eventually be produced for our Politicians to consider for the first time. This will include the Planning Officers recommendations on approval or rejection. 4. If WTA lose, they can risk an appeal. But that costs them even more.
A foolhardy LibDem supporter lining himself up for the firing line again. Come the glorious revolution brother.... you'll get deported from York along with the rest of the wooly thinkers who put tourism before local peoples needs.
Bob-I must emphasise that I have never permanently supported any political party. The LibDems or indeed any other group if it was the ruling one, cannot ethically comment at present.
Political comment must await firstly a formal Planning Application by WTA,and secondly for the Planning Officers Report and Recommendations to be brought before the relevant Council Committee. To publicly prejudge the outcome of this debate would be highly unethical for any political group.
Such is the stuff of Democracy.
[quote][p][bold]bob the builder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Simonon[/bold] wrote: The council should of told them to go away as soon as they started to threaten that they would take it away from York altogether if they could not get their own way. Using bully boy tacticts. Disgusting! We dont need it and we never did. It will not be missed.[/p][/quote]1. The Proposal has not yet been formally laid before local Politicians. So please don't slag off the current majority group. 2. No Local Authority has legal power to tell a prospective developer to go away. 3. For all we know, the collective advice to be received by WTA may be that a formal Planning Application is unlikely to be approved. But even if this occurs, WTA can still subsequently take the risk of submitting an Application. Then it will formally have to go through the full process. A Report will eventually be produced for our Politicians to consider for the first time. This will include the Planning Officers recommendations on approval or rejection. 4. If WTA lose, they can risk an appeal. But that costs them even more. [/p][/quote]A foolhardy LibDem supporter lining himself up for the firing line again. Come the glorious revolution brother.... you'll get deported from York along with the rest of the wooly thinkers who put tourism before local peoples needs.[/p][/quote]Bob-I must emphasise that I have never permanently supported any political party. The LibDems or indeed any other group if it was the ruling one, cannot ethically comment at present. Political comment must await firstly a formal Planning Application by WTA,and secondly for the Planning Officers Report and Recommendations to be brought before the relevant Council Committee. To publicly prejudge the outcome of this debate would be highly unethical for any political group. Such is the stuff of Democracy. pedalling paul
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3:51pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Simonon says...

Peace wrote:
Yes the wheel is a disgrace. How dare they put something so ugly in between the beautiful Norwich Union building and the Viking/ Moat House/ whatever it's called now. Bring back the stocks in Micklegate Holy Trinity for these dirty scroundrels! York's architecture is pretty awful excusing a few buildings erected along time ago. However temporary this structure maybe it surely will help the city understand that new buildings do not have be sympathetic and thus aesthetically bereft such as the Queens Hotel, the building in which Borders is sited, numerous buildings on Clifford Street, the disgrace that is Hungate, Encore Hotel, Evening Press building, St Saviourgate, Norwich Union building by the river, Swinegate, former Davygate centre, Hilton Hotel, Hotels on Piccadilly and the list could go on!
York is one of the most beautiful city's in europe. What planet do you live on mate?
[quote][p][bold]Peace[/bold] wrote: Yes the wheel is a disgrace. How dare they put something so ugly in between the beautiful Norwich Union building and the Viking/ Moat House/ whatever it's called now. Bring back the stocks in Micklegate Holy Trinity for these dirty scroundrels! York's architecture is pretty awful excusing a few buildings erected along time ago. However temporary this structure maybe it surely will help the city understand that new buildings do not have be sympathetic and thus aesthetically bereft such as the Queens Hotel, the building in which Borders is sited, numerous buildings on Clifford Street, the disgrace that is Hungate, Encore Hotel, Evening Press building, St Saviourgate, Norwich Union building by the river, Swinegate, former Davygate centre, Hilton Hotel, Hotels on Piccadilly and the list could go on![/p][/quote]York is one of the most beautiful city's in europe. What planet do you live on mate? Simonon
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4:20pm Thu 4 Dec 08

ThisIsOli says...

Yorks a nice city to live itn but I wouldn't say one of the most beautiful, we have very little in the way of beautiful buildings compared to other european cities.

Go over to Barcelona or Munich and then compare it to York, it just doesn't compete.

It is still a fantastic city to live in, I just wish the council would spend more money on making this city as fantastic as it could be.
Yorks a nice city to live itn but I wouldn't say one of the most beautiful, we have very little in the way of beautiful buildings compared to other european cities. Go over to Barcelona or Munich and then compare it to York, it just doesn't compete. It is still a fantastic city to live in, I just wish the council would spend more money on making this city as fantastic as it could be. ThisIsOli
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4:40pm Thu 4 Dec 08

AdmiralN says...

Im with Oli, York maybe one of the most beautiful cities in the UK, a great and safe place to live but in europe its right down the beauty list!

But i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Im with Oli, York maybe one of the most beautiful cities in the UK, a great and safe place to live but in europe its right down the beauty list! But i guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. AdmiralN
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4:50pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Simonon says...

ThisIsOli wrote:
Yorks a nice city to live itn but I wouldn't say one of the most beautiful, we have very little in the way of beautiful buildings compared to other european cities.

Go over to Barcelona or Munich and then compare it to York, it just doesn't compete.

It is still a fantastic city to live in, I just wish the council would spend more money on making this city as fantastic as it could be.
I love Barcelona and have visited many times.Yet with all respect its not a scratch on York.,Its just one VERY large grid of fast roads. People of York take the time out and spend the day as a tourist in York. Look up and see what the tourists are looking at, you'll be amazed at what you have on you doorstep, you just have to take the time to do it. its all to easy to miss it or just not be bothered when you live here. How many of you have been to the top of Clifford's Tower to take in the views or when was the last time you had a walk around the city walls? go on treat yourselves.
[quote][p][bold]ThisIsOli[/bold] wrote: Yorks a nice city to live itn but I wouldn't say one of the most beautiful, we have very little in the way of beautiful buildings compared to other european cities. Go over to Barcelona or Munich and then compare it to York, it just doesn't compete. It is still a fantastic city to live in, I just wish the council would spend more money on making this city as fantastic as it could be.[/p][/quote]I love Barcelona and have visited many times.Yet with all respect its not a scratch on York.,Its just one VERY large grid of fast roads. People of York take the time out and spend the day as a tourist in York. Look up and see what the tourists are looking at, you'll be amazed at what you have on you doorstep, you just have to take the time to do it. its all to easy to miss it or just not be bothered when you live here. How many of you have been to the top of Clifford's Tower to take in the views or when was the last time you had a walk around the city walls? go on treat yourselves. Simonon
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4:55pm Thu 4 Dec 08

shartin says...

please,please no big wheel in the riverside gardens.It's just not the right place for it.In fact i would go as far as to say that there is no "right place" for it in York other than where it was at the Railway Museum.Maybe York would benefit from another tourist attraction but one in keeping with this historic city.
please,please no big wheel in the riverside gardens.It's just not the right place for it.In fact i would go as far as to say that there is no "right place" for it in York other than where it was at the Railway Museum.Maybe York would benefit from another tourist attraction but one in keeping with this historic city. shartin
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4:57pm Thu 4 Dec 08

oldgoat says...

ThisIsOli wrote:
Yorks a nice city to live itn but I wouldn't say one of the most beautiful, we have very little in the way of beautiful buildings compared to other european cities.

Go over to Barcelona or Munich and then compare it to York, it just doesn't compete.

It is still a fantastic city to live in, I just wish the council would spend more money on making this city as fantastic as it could be.
Kind of depends where you're looking, doesn't it. York doesn't suffer a skyline of tall buildings, but it has a fantastic heritage of old ones - and in a very small space too. Considering you can stand at the top of the Minster's Central Tower and see all the countryside around York, not just a sea of other buildings....
[quote][p][bold]ThisIsOli[/bold] wrote: Yorks a nice city to live itn but I wouldn't say one of the most beautiful, we have very little in the way of beautiful buildings compared to other european cities. Go over to Barcelona or Munich and then compare it to York, it just doesn't compete. It is still a fantastic city to live in, I just wish the council would spend more money on making this city as fantastic as it could be.[/p][/quote]Kind of depends where you're looking, doesn't it. York doesn't suffer a skyline of tall buildings, but it has a fantastic heritage of old ones - and in a very small space too. Considering you can stand at the top of the Minster's Central Tower and see all the countryside around York, not just a sea of other buildings.... oldgoat
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5:05pm Thu 4 Dec 08

meme says...

what about the Memorial gardens
Easy to get to City Centre coach parking close to station
could not be better
Or land just above scarbro bridge behind Leeman road
Just get it somewhere as whether its liked or not its an attraction that brings tourists who spend money in these tough times
what about the Memorial gardens Easy to get to City Centre coach parking close to station could not be better Or land just above scarbro bridge behind Leeman road Just get it somewhere as whether its liked or not its an attraction that brings tourists who spend money in these tough times meme
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5:45pm Thu 4 Dec 08

DEKKA says...

They want it in by christmas??..The thing is pug ugly..it was ok out of the way by the railway museum..but in the centre, on a site that floods every year??.. Will the gound take the weight or will it just slide into the river (we hope)
They want it in by christmas??..The thing is pug ugly..it was ok out of the way by the railway museum..but in the centre, on a site that floods every year??.. Will the gound take the weight or will it just slide into the river (we hope) DEKKA
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6:20pm Thu 4 Dec 08

the butler says...

Dismantle the useless piece of junk, Blackpool may take it for spare parts.
Dismantle the useless piece of junk, Blackpool may take it for spare parts. the butler
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7:31pm Thu 4 Dec 08

TooRad says...

Hey WTA, shove your wheel, we don't want it. It's more of a Shelbyville idea anyway.

We already have a great way to get a really good aerial view from the centre of our city and it only costs a few quid for residents. It's called the Minster tower and it's the best thing you can do as a tourist in York, I reckon.
Hey WTA, shove your wheel, we don't want it. It's more of a Shelbyville idea anyway. We already have a great way to get a really good aerial view from the centre of our city and it only costs a few quid for residents. It's called the Minster tower and it's the best thing you can do as a tourist in York, I reckon. TooRad
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9:05pm Thu 4 Dec 08

petethefeet says...

Does anybody know the detail of the local bye-law banning structures of over 117 feet? It was often cited in the sixties by Lord Esher. Perhaps they are using "temporary" structure status to get around this restriction but I would contest that simply moving it down the road does not constitute a new development. Anybody know anything?
Does anybody know the detail of the local bye-law banning structures of over 117 feet? It was often cited in the sixties by Lord Esher. Perhaps they are using "temporary" structure status to get around this restriction but I would contest that simply moving it down the road does not constitute a new development. Anybody know anything? petethefeet
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11:07pm Thu 4 Dec 08

Dave Taylor says...

Pete, there is no by-law to that effect. However, the company would be crazy to venture a planning application.
It would fail on varous grounds and I would hope that the planning officers are advising them as such (and yes, they have to engage with the company and cannot, sadly, just tell them to clear off.)
Planning grounds for refusal would include:-
- detriment to the historic environment.
- overlooking of residential properties on North Street.
- land subject to flooding.
- possible damage to riverbank due to the depth to which stabilisers would have to be drilled into the bank.

In my view it's a non-starter. Like Coppergate II and the Hungate HQ. ; )
- Dave.
Pete, there is no by-law to that effect. However, the company would be crazy to venture a planning application. It would fail on varous grounds and I would hope that the planning officers are advising them as such (and yes, they have to engage with the company and cannot, sadly, just tell them to clear off.) Planning grounds for refusal would include:- - detriment to the historic environment. - overlooking of residential properties on North Street. - land subject to flooding. - possible damage to riverbank due to the depth to which stabilisers would have to be drilled into the bank. In my view it's a non-starter. Like Coppergate II and the Hungate HQ. ; ) - Dave. Dave Taylor
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12:07pm Fri 5 Dec 08

nimbybasher says...

Moan Moan Moan Whinge Moan at least this gives u lot somthing to do!
Moan Moan Moan Whinge Moan at least this gives u lot somthing to do! nimbybasher
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3:03pm Fri 5 Dec 08

Big Bad Wolf says...

So.... if the owners of this wheel do take it away, will the tourist industry really notice...Does anyone come to York to ride the wheel???
How did we manage so long without it??
So.... if the owners of this wheel do take it away, will the tourist industry really notice...Does anyone come to York to ride the wheel??? How did we manage so long without it?? Big Bad Wolf
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12:42pm Tue 9 Dec 08

mystic_genius says...

I wonder how many people conplaining on this site will complain at the right forums when/if it gets to public consulation. Perhaps we should all forget about writing pointless insults on here and focus on how we can stop such a thing being erected. Perhaps hell could freeze as well...
I wonder how many people conplaining on this site will complain at the right forums when/if it gets to public consulation. Perhaps we should all forget about writing pointless insults on here and focus on how we can stop such a thing being erected. Perhaps hell could freeze as well... mystic_genius
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