Two thirds of Le Tour campers refunded, early data shows

Monk Stray

Monk Stray

First published in News

AROUND two-thirds of people who booked camping at city council site for the Tour de France had to be refunded, early indications show.

The City of York Council's accounts for last financial year, released to The Press, show that out of the £4600 taken from tent and caravan booking for Le Tour's visit to York, around £2,900 had to be refunded because camping was not available.

The accounts include bookings taken until the end of March, three months before the Grand Depart came to town and show camping and caravan bookings had to be cancelled across all three council sites Monk Stray, the Designer Outlet, and Millennium Bridge.

Early plans for camping at Monk Stray prompted widespread concern from nearby residents. In May, the Caravan Club pulled out the operating the campsites for the city council, and in June The Press reported on complaints from people who had had their bookings cancelled at just a few weeks' notice.

While the city council's ruling Labour group has blamed the lack of income on political manoeuvring from opposing councillors, other parties have pointed to failings by the administration and the city council.

Conservative Chris Steward said: "The Tour de France was made brilliant by the people of York and the organisers, but there were so many things the city council and the Labour group made a mess of."

The real test will be how many people come back to York because of the Tour, he added.

But Cllr Sonja Crisp, the cabinet member responsible for theTour de France, said: "Our plans to enhance the TdF visitor experience and achieve meaningful levels of additional income for the council were repeatedly scuppered by political manoeuvring in relation to camping at Monk Stray by the opposition, which has lost the city many thousands of pounds of revenue, final figures of which have not yet been finalised".

Liberal Democrat member for Heworth Without Nigel Ayre spoke out on behalf of many of his constituents worried about the impact of Monk Stray camping.

His party colleagues responded to Cllr Crisp's accusations, and group leader Cllr Keith Aspden said: “It is certainly disappointing, if unsurprising, that the Labour group see the legitimate concerns of local residents as political manoeuvring. If the Labour Cabinet had a credible case for camping on Monk Stray they should have submitted a planning application instead of trying to gain consent without fully consulting nearby residents."

The reluctance of the Labour council to release full details of all income and expenditure, for the Huntington Stadium Grand Departy, is of much greater public interest than blaming residents or other political parties for financial failures, he added.

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11:50am Fri 29 Aug 14

mickeytops says...

Why do Labour alway try to blame the other parties when they muck up.
Have the balls to admit your mistakes for once.
Hurry up elections so we can vote these incompetent idiots out.
Why do Labour alway try to blame the other parties when they muck up. Have the balls to admit your mistakes for once. Hurry up elections so we can vote these incompetent idiots out. mickeytops
  • Score: -23

11:55am Fri 29 Aug 14

mickeytops says...

What happened at Huntington stadium, and how much of our Council money did you waste again. All we have seen is Labour lose money again and again, but blame someone else. Who are they going to blame when they are ousted. They should be run out of York now.
What happened at Huntington stadium, and how much of our Council money did you waste again. All we have seen is Labour lose money again and again, but blame someone else. Who are they going to blame when they are ousted. They should be run out of York now. mickeytops
  • Score: -18

12:26pm Fri 29 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

The Council have stated that they would like to 'get involved' with Bishy Road. God help the traders if they do!
The Council have stated that they would like to 'get involved' with Bishy Road. God help the traders if they do! eeoodares
  • Score: -17

1:15pm Fri 29 Aug 14

meme says...

Please CoYC stay away from Bisshy rd and let people who have commercial brains and a genuine expertise deal with the area
Please CoYC stay away from Bisshy rd and let people who have commercial brains and a genuine expertise [not desk bound, target obsessed, pen pushers] deal with the area meme
  • Score: -21

1:46pm Fri 29 Aug 14

stephen123 says...

The loss has nothing to do with political manouevring . Clearly if proper consultation had taken place they would have realised that their camping plans especially for Monk Stray and the spectator hub were a non starter.

It was people power, common sense and democracy that won the day. I hope they have noted lessons learned from this event and In future they make a point of consulting the locals and listen to their concerns. As a priority they should take into account peoples views concerning the impact their decisions will have on the lives of individuals and the green space on their doorstep. If strength of feeling against their idea is as strong as shown in this case then they should take note and cancel their plans.

However, I am pleased to say that even without these camp sites the fantastic reputation of the Tour de France brought in the crowds and it was enjoyed by the locals and thousands of visitors. The friendly atmosphere led to a great day for the majority of people of York, and travel disruption was kept to a minimum. This event has enhanced the reputation of York, especially as a top City to visit as a holiday destination.
The loss has nothing to do with political manouevring . Clearly if proper consultation had taken place they would have realised that their camping plans especially for Monk Stray and the spectator hub were a non starter. It was people power, common sense and democracy that won the day. I hope they have noted lessons learned from this event and In future they make a point of consulting the locals and listen to their concerns. As a priority they should take into account peoples views concerning the impact their decisions will have on the lives of individuals and the green space on their doorstep. If strength of feeling against their idea is as strong as shown in this case then they should take note and cancel their plans. However, I am pleased to say that even without these camp sites the fantastic reputation of the Tour de France brought in the crowds and it was enjoyed by the locals and thousands of visitors. The friendly atmosphere led to a great day for the majority of people of York, and travel disruption was kept to a minimum. This event has enhanced the reputation of York, especially as a top City to visit as a holiday destination. stephen123
  • Score: -31

2:24pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Maximus Sarcasticus says...

I've read about dodgy websites selling holiday destinations that
don't exist,but York City Council takes the biscuit. Did the poor
souls have to apply to receive their deposits back as they do in
the Lendal Bridge fine fiasco.CHEEK.
I've read about dodgy websites selling holiday destinations that don't exist,but York City Council takes the biscuit. Did the poor souls have to apply to receive their deposits back as they do in the Lendal Bridge fine fiasco.CHEEK. Maximus Sarcasticus
  • Score: -38

5:03pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Can't all be wrong says...

What is truly terrifying is how badly the camping aspect of the tour was handled. In monetary and organisation terms this was quite a small project ( the camping) within a much larger scheme of things. And yet YCC still got it wrong when so many others got it right. If that is really a reflection of their skills and abilities goodness knows what will come to light when they finally get forced out of office.
What is truly terrifying is how badly the camping aspect of the tour was handled. In monetary and organisation terms this was quite a small project ( the camping) within a much larger scheme of things. And yet YCC still got it wrong when so many others got it right. If that is really a reflection of their skills and abilities goodness knows what will come to light when they finally get forced out of office. Can't all be wrong
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5:47pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Maximus Sarcasticus says...

We went to see the tour go past Cliffords tower then on to Rowntree's Park.
The park was full of people joining in and trying to have a good time and hoping to watch the progress of the race on the supposedly big screen.I asked about its none appearance and was told they had under ordered and had to move it somewhere else so went home disappointed, to watch on TV.
Lets hope all the dignitaries and free loaders could see one.
We went to see the tour go past Cliffords tower then on to Rowntree's Park. The park was full of people joining in and trying to have a good time and hoping to watch the progress of the race on the supposedly big screen.I asked about its none appearance and was told they had under ordered and had to move it somewhere else so went home disappointed, to watch on TV. Lets hope all the dignitaries and free loaders could see one. Maximus Sarcasticus
  • Score: -27

6:00pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jack Ham says...

New low for the discredited CYC, it's politicised officers and inept Labour administration.

To read Sonja Crisp blame other parties is just staggering. She messed this up from day one and neither James Alexander or Kersten England had the bottle to tell her she didn't know what she was doing.

Just another in a long line of mistakes, from trying to sell off union terrace car park to his university pals through to closing Beckfield lane, funding an arts barge, spending half a million on paving stones and another million on a cycle path nobody uses. Oh, and Lendal Bridge!

Vote Labour? Vote Disaster more like!
New low for the discredited CYC, it's politicised officers and inept Labour administration. To read Sonja Crisp blame other parties is just staggering. She messed this up from day one and neither James Alexander or Kersten England had the bottle to tell her she didn't know what she was doing. Just another in a long line of mistakes, from trying to sell off union terrace car park to his university pals through to closing Beckfield lane, funding an arts barge, spending half a million on paving stones and another million on a cycle path nobody uses. Oh, and Lendal Bridge! Vote Labour? Vote Disaster more like! Jack Ham
  • Score: -19

3:30pm Sat 30 Aug 14

yorkshirelad says...

Political manoeuvring? Absolutely it was....and disrupting opposition schemes is sadly now one of the main ways politics is conducted in York. Of course residents complain...but due to hijacking of those concerns by politicians the council was forced to pull the plug on the campsite. Whilst concerns should have been reasonably addressed it is also reasonable to have minor local inconvenience for an international status event...for goodness sake, have you seen what residents near the racecourse put up with on a regular basis?
This style of negative Punch and Judy politics has only one loser....the City of York.
All parties are at it and our City is littered with schemes abandoned after politicians whipping up and manipulation of opposition. You can clearly see this is about politics by the comments above.
It's time ordinary residents called time on this sort of negative politics destroying every council initiative and clearly demonstrated by the political point scoring in The Press.
Certainly shame on the minority of residents who forced the abandonment of a part of our hospitality to guests at The Tour...but far more shame to the people who exploited those concerns to score political points.
Political manoeuvring? Absolutely it was....and disrupting opposition schemes is sadly now one of the main ways politics is conducted in York. Of course residents complain...but due to hijacking of those concerns by politicians the council was forced to pull the plug on the campsite. Whilst concerns should have been reasonably addressed it is also reasonable to have minor local inconvenience for an international status event...for goodness sake, have you seen what residents near the racecourse put up with on a regular basis? This style of negative Punch and Judy politics has only one loser....the City of York. All parties are at it and our City is littered with schemes abandoned after politicians whipping up and manipulation of opposition. You can clearly see this is about politics by the comments above. It's time ordinary residents called time on this sort of negative politics destroying every council initiative and clearly demonstrated by the political point scoring in The Press. Certainly shame on the minority of residents who forced the abandonment of a part of our hospitality to guests at The Tour...but far more shame to the people who exploited those concerns to score political points. yorkshirelad
  • Score: 0

4:19pm Sat 30 Aug 14

stephen123 says...

yorkshirelad wrote:
Political manoeuvring? Absolutely it was....and disrupting opposition schemes is sadly now one of the main ways politics is conducted in York. Of course residents complain...but due to hijacking of those concerns by politicians the council was forced to pull the plug on the campsite. Whilst concerns should have been reasonably addressed it is also reasonable to have minor local inconvenience for an international status event...for goodness sake, have you seen what residents near the racecourse put up with on a regular basis?
This style of negative Punch and Judy politics has only one loser....the City of York.
All parties are at it and our City is littered with schemes abandoned after politicians whipping up and manipulation of opposition. You can clearly see this is about politics by the comments above.
It's time ordinary residents called time on this sort of negative politics destroying every council initiative and clearly demonstrated by the political point scoring in The Press.
Certainly shame on the minority of residents who forced the abandonment of a part of our hospitality to guests at The Tour...but far more shame to the people who exploited those concerns to score political points.
You are welcome to your point of view, but as was demonstrated by the negative turn out to the Grand de Party there clearly was not the demand for such events away from the centre of York.

Planning the camping and spectator hub on Monk Stray was a non starter. The site was on the wrong side of town for anyone who was interested in the Tour. The Tour was not coming anywhere near Monk Stray. Even the Council said that if there was insufficient take up of camping on Monk Stray they would cancel the bookings and send the campers to the other camp sites around York which they admitted were better located for seeing the Tour.
[quote][p][bold]yorkshirelad[/bold] wrote: Political manoeuvring? Absolutely it was....and disrupting opposition schemes is sadly now one of the main ways politics is conducted in York. Of course residents complain...but due to hijacking of those concerns by politicians the council was forced to pull the plug on the campsite. Whilst concerns should have been reasonably addressed it is also reasonable to have minor local inconvenience for an international status event...for goodness sake, have you seen what residents near the racecourse put up with on a regular basis? This style of negative Punch and Judy politics has only one loser....the City of York. All parties are at it and our City is littered with schemes abandoned after politicians whipping up and manipulation of opposition. You can clearly see this is about politics by the comments above. It's time ordinary residents called time on this sort of negative politics destroying every council initiative and clearly demonstrated by the political point scoring in The Press. Certainly shame on the minority of residents who forced the abandonment of a part of our hospitality to guests at The Tour...but far more shame to the people who exploited those concerns to score political points.[/p][/quote]You are welcome to your point of view, but as was demonstrated by the negative turn out to the Grand de Party there clearly was not the demand for such events away from the centre of York. Planning the camping and spectator hub on Monk Stray was a non starter. The site was on the wrong side of town for anyone who was interested in the Tour. The Tour was not coming anywhere near Monk Stray. Even the Council said that if there was insufficient take up of camping on Monk Stray they would cancel the bookings and send the campers to the other camp sites around York which they admitted were better located for seeing the Tour. stephen123
  • Score: 0

6:46pm Sat 30 Aug 14

York2000 says...

yorkshirelad - I am afraid you're wasting your time. The Press is a right wing, Conservative supporting newspaper. It's all about politics on here. The Press plays the game on a local scale in a similar way to the Mail on a national scale.
yorkshirelad - I am afraid you're wasting your time. The Press is a right wing, Conservative supporting newspaper. It's all about politics on here. The Press plays the game on a local scale in a similar way to the Mail on a national scale. York2000
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