Yobs paint seagull bright red

Sanctuary owner Alexandra Farmer with a herring gull that has been painted red by yobs in Whitby, North Yorkshire

The herring gull that has been painted red by yobs in Whitby, North Yorkshire

The herring gull that has been painted red by yobs in Whitby, North Yorkshire

First published in News

A YOUNG herring gull must be kept isolated from other birds after cruel yobs attacked it with spray paint.

The gull was taken in by Whitby Wildlife Sanctuary, after she was found on Thursday covered in thick red paint.

The young bird, who rescuers have named Poppy due to her new colour, is only a few months old and faces a couple of flightless years while waiting for the damaged feathers to fall out.

Alexandra Farmer, 25, who runs the sanctuary, said Poppy will not be able to live among the other gulls because she will be the victim of bullying.

She said: “She will be staying here at the sanctuary for a couple of years.

“She won’t be able to fly now because the paint has made the feathers rock hard and stiff. She keeps looking at her feet because they are so red but there is not a way to wash it off.

“It will take a couple of years for the paint to come off in the moult.

There is no way to cut the feathers for them to grow back so you would have to pull them all out which I am not going to do.

“I already have a gull pen with about 30 other rescue gulls but she is likely to be bullied.

“I’m going to build a new pen just for her because the gulls will know that something is wrong and they will pick up on that.”

Alexandra explained that the sanctuary had received calls earlier in the week from concerned members of the public who had spotted Poppy, so they put an appeal out on the lookout for the injured gull before she was found alone on an industrial estate.

Alexandra added that Poppy will now need lots of care to be nurtured back to health.

She said: “She is only a baby and so she is unable to fly at the moment which means she is fairly easy to get hold of. It looks like the paint that is used on the road. I think two people must have painted her because they have lifted her wings to paint underneath. One person would have held her and the other would have painted.

“She’s going to need a lot of TLC. The paint is very fumy and I’ve had to keep her in a well aerated room. She smelt terrible when she was found and that amount of fumes would make breathing quite difficult.

“They have painted her face and so I am taking her to the vet to make sure she didn’t breathe too much of it in.”

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9:48am Sat 23 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..?? smudge2
  • Score: 35

9:51am Sat 23 Aug 14

Devilsadvocate2 says...

Sick morons. Hope they get their comeuppance.
Sick morons. Hope they get their comeuppance. Devilsadvocate2
  • Score: -18

9:57am Sat 23 Aug 14

again says...

smudge2 wrote:
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
No,let's not try to change the subject.

This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??[/p][/quote]No,let's not try to change the subject. This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked. again
  • Score: -23

10:18am Sat 23 Aug 14

anistasia says...

Its a living creature with a brain and feelings what's it going through its disgusting I would never hurt any animal I'm not defending the seagull I dont like them but they are a part of the seaside hope it recovers and the person caught.
Its a living creature with a brain and feelings what's it going through its disgusting I would never hurt any animal I'm not defending the seagull I dont like them but they are a part of the seaside hope it recovers and the person caught. anistasia
  • Score: -30

10:57am Sat 23 Aug 14

cogitationes meae says...

I hope they catch these sick sadistic morons. Their community will hear via rumours or the idiots themselves bragging about it or showing video they took!
If so, I would vote for punishment based on the "eye for an eye" theory!
I hope they catch these sick sadistic morons. Their community will hear via rumours or the idiots themselves bragging about it or showing video they took! If so, I would vote for punishment based on the "eye for an eye" theory! cogitationes meae
  • Score: -20

5:10pm Sat 23 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

again wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
No,let's not try to change the subject.

This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.
Red gull at night....sailors delight !!
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??[/p][/quote]No,let's not try to change the subject. This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.[/p][/quote]Red gull at night....sailors delight !! smudge2
  • Score: 12

5:11pm Sat 23 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

again wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
No,let's not try to change the subject.

This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.
Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !!
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??[/p][/quote]No,let's not try to change the subject. This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.[/p][/quote]Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !! smudge2
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Sat 23 Aug 14

tizme says...

smudge2 wrote:
again wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
No,let's not try to change the subject.

This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.
Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !!
I think the cruel, heartless 'thing' that did this deserves a very severe punishment. Unfortunately we have fools in this world who like to make sick jokes about others' misfortunes.
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??[/p][/quote]No,let's not try to change the subject. This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.[/p][/quote]Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !![/p][/quote]I think the cruel, heartless 'thing' that did this deserves a very severe punishment. Unfortunately we have fools in this world who like to make sick jokes about others' misfortunes. tizme
  • Score: -19

6:52pm Sat 23 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

tizme wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
again wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
No,let's not try to change the subject.

This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.
Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !!
I think the cruel, heartless 'thing' that did this deserves a very severe punishment. Unfortunately we have fools in this world who like to make sick jokes about others' misfortunes.
Looking at all the wars and people being killed in the world you have to put a red gull into perspective....Bulli
ed by other gulls....Really ???
[quote][p][bold]tizme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??[/p][/quote]No,let's not try to change the subject. This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.[/p][/quote]Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !![/p][/quote]I think the cruel, heartless 'thing' that did this deserves a very severe punishment. Unfortunately we have fools in this world who like to make sick jokes about others' misfortunes.[/p][/quote]Looking at all the wars and people being killed in the world you have to put a red gull into perspective....Bulli ed by other gulls....Really ??? smudge2
  • Score: 17

8:35pm Sat 23 Aug 14

big boy york says...

sick tw@ts, but please the press we can comment on this but not the **** who got a grand fine for chucking glass as the tour de farce went by
sick tw@ts, but please the press we can comment on this but not the **** who got a grand fine for chucking glass as the tour de farce went by big boy york
  • Score: -6

8:36pm Sat 23 Aug 14

anistasia says...

Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.
Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick. anistasia
  • Score: -16

9:04am Sun 24 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

anistasia wrote:
Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.
Idiot!

Thumbing down, or even expressing a point contrary to yours does not make you a sadist, or even close to being a sadist.
[quote][p][bold]anistasia[/bold] wrote: Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.[/p][/quote]Idiot! Thumbing down, or even expressing a point contrary to yours does not make you a sadist, or even close to being a sadist. eeoodares
  • Score: -10

9:54am Sun 24 Aug 14

anistasia says...

Its suggesting to me people are happy to miss treat animals and those who find it funny must be sick.I dont particularly like seagulls but Id do nothing to make them suffer.that's my point some posts seem to be liking what happened to it.
Its suggesting to me people are happy to miss treat animals and those who find it funny must be sick.I dont particularly like seagulls but Id do nothing to make them suffer.that's my point some posts seem to be liking what happened to it. anistasia
  • Score: -6

10:06am Sun 24 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

anistasia wrote:
Its suggesting to me people are happy to miss treat animals and those who find it funny must be sick.I dont particularly like seagulls but Id do nothing to make them suffer.that's my point some posts seem to be liking what happened to it.
Enjoy the sunshine and the day anistasia and chill a little. It's a bit of press banter .Dont let them get to you..is this red bird gullible do you think ??
[quote][p][bold]anistasia[/bold] wrote: Its suggesting to me people are happy to miss treat animals and those who find it funny must be sick.I dont particularly like seagulls but Id do nothing to make them suffer.that's my point some posts seem to be liking what happened to it.[/p][/quote]Enjoy the sunshine and the day anistasia and chill a little. It's a bit of press banter .Dont let them get to you..is this red bird gullible do you think ?? smudge2
  • Score: 5

7:38pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Reasonable person says...

The Press seems to attract 'idiots' who call other people 'idiots' for expressing a compassionate view. Using put downs such as this or telling others to 'get a life' or to 'get out and enjoy the sunshine' suggests an inability to talk reasonably about a subject by those who think life should be all about people 'having fun' with complete disregard for other people's feelings. Or the cruelty meted out to animals who are unable to defend themselves. Throwing up flak about wars going on around the world is also a common theme used by homophobic people and displays an inability to sense the pain and upset caused in this instance to the bird (and insensitivity on other topics).
The Press seems to attract 'idiots' who call other people 'idiots' for expressing a compassionate view. Using put downs such as this or telling others to 'get a life' or to 'get out and enjoy the sunshine' suggests an inability to talk reasonably about a subject by those who think life should be all about people 'having fun' with complete disregard for other people's feelings. Or the cruelty meted out to animals who are unable to defend themselves. Throwing up flak about wars going on around the world is also a common theme used by homophobic people and displays an inability to sense the pain and upset caused in this instance to the bird (and insensitivity on other topics). Reasonable person
  • Score: -12

7:42pm Sun 24 Aug 14

York2000 says...

Typical York Press comments thread here.
Typical York Press comments thread here. York2000
  • Score: 0

10:02pm Sun 24 Aug 14

Reasonable person says...

I guess the number of thumbs down my comment attracted in less than 2hrs proves my point. The Press is a forum for homophobic people who seem uncomfortable with those of us that prefer a quiet life and who would like to think that treating animals in such a cruel fashion presumably for a bit of 'fun' is normally deemed unacceptable (let alone cruel and illegal). If you have pets or children and somebody treated them in this way I wonder if you would feel affronted by comments trying to make light of it.
I guess the number of thumbs down my comment attracted in less than 2hrs proves my point. The Press is a forum for homophobic people who seem uncomfortable with those of us that prefer a quiet life and who would like to think that treating animals in such a cruel fashion presumably for a bit of 'fun' is normally deemed unacceptable (let alone cruel and illegal). If you have pets or children and somebody treated them in this way I wonder if you would feel affronted by comments trying to make light of it. Reasonable person
  • Score: -9

9:47am Mon 25 Aug 14

I'msohappy.com says...

smudge2 wrote:
tizme wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
again wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??
No,let's not try to change the subject.

This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.
Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !!
I think the cruel, heartless 'thing' that did this deserves a very severe punishment. Unfortunately we have fools in this world who like to make sick jokes about others' misfortunes.
Looking at all the wars and people being killed in the world you have to put a red gull into perspective....Bulli

ed by other gulls....Really ???
How about we spray paint you red and let you go on with your daily life, maybe then you'll realise bullying does exist for everyone and not just humans.
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tizme[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Going off the red gull has anybody noticed how many seagulls appear to be living in York city now and the noise at night and in the morning sounds like we are at Scarborough..??[/p][/quote]No,let's not try to change the subject. This was an act of cruelty,pure and simple. The sort that leads to worse behaviour if not checked.[/p][/quote]Red Gull at night.....sailors delight !![/p][/quote]I think the cruel, heartless 'thing' that did this deserves a very severe punishment. Unfortunately we have fools in this world who like to make sick jokes about others' misfortunes.[/p][/quote]Looking at all the wars and people being killed in the world you have to put a red gull into perspective....Bulli ed by other gulls....Really ???[/p][/quote]How about we spray paint you red and let you go on with your daily life, maybe then you'll realise bullying does exist for everyone and not just humans. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: -22

7:19pm Mon 25 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Reasonable person wrote:
I guess the number of thumbs down my comment attracted in less than 2hrs proves my point. The Press is a forum for homophobic people who seem uncomfortable with those of us that prefer a quiet life and who would like to think that treating animals in such a cruel fashion presumably for a bit of 'fun' is normally deemed unacceptable (let alone cruel and illegal). If you have pets or children and somebody treated them in this way I wonder if you would feel affronted by comments trying to make light of it.
Just because someone 'red thumbs' you does not make them homophobic? What are you talking about? Please explain how you believe that anybody that disagrees with you hates Gays, even if you are Gay and I disagree with a point you make, that does not reflect my opinion on your preference for either sex!

I do not think that all Gay people are idiots any more than I think all fat people are jolly.
[quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: I guess the number of thumbs down my comment attracted in less than 2hrs proves my point. The Press is a forum for homophobic people who seem uncomfortable with those of us that prefer a quiet life and who would like to think that treating animals in such a cruel fashion presumably for a bit of 'fun' is normally deemed unacceptable (let alone cruel and illegal). If you have pets or children and somebody treated them in this way I wonder if you would feel affronted by comments trying to make light of it.[/p][/quote]Just because someone 'red thumbs' you does not make them homophobic? What are you talking about? Please explain how you believe that anybody that disagrees with you hates Gays, even if you are Gay and I disagree with a point you make, that does not reflect my opinion on your preference for either sex! I do not think that all Gay people are idiots any more than I think all fat people are jolly. eeoodares
  • Score: 16

11:14am Tue 26 Aug 14

Reasonable person says...

My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.
My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic. Reasonable person
  • Score: 3

8:45pm Tue 26 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Reasonable person wrote:
My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.
Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?
[quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant? eeoodares
  • Score: -4

3:55pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Reasonable person says...

eeoodares wrote:
Reasonable person wrote:
My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.
Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?
No. I am suggesting you are xenophobic. You called Anistasia an 'idiot' for having a few contrary to your own; her view was one of compassion for the seagull. Xenophobia isn't just about being phobic of 'foreigners' ('immigrants' in your terms) but also being phobic of people with a view contrary to yours. Something you put to Anistasia who at least shows a caring attitude and is willing to stand up for her compassionate view; putting her down by using the term 'idiot' is completely unneccessary. I quoted the term it in one of my responses because it is a very unpleasant reaction to a reasonable perspective.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?[/p][/quote]No. I am suggesting you are xenophobic. You called Anistasia an 'idiot' for having a few contrary to your own; her view was one of compassion for the seagull. Xenophobia isn't just about being phobic of 'foreigners' ('immigrants' in your terms) but also being phobic of people with a view contrary to yours. Something you put to Anistasia who at least shows a caring attitude and is willing to stand up for her compassionate view; putting her down by using the term 'idiot' is completely unneccessary. I quoted the term it in one of my responses because it is a very unpleasant reaction to a reasonable perspective. Reasonable person
  • Score: 2

8:11pm Wed 27 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Reasonable person wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Reasonable person wrote:
My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.
Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?
No. I am suggesting you are xenophobic. You called Anistasia an 'idiot' for having a few contrary to your own; her view was one of compassion for the seagull. Xenophobia isn't just about being phobic of 'foreigners' ('immigrants' in your terms) but also being phobic of people with a view contrary to yours. Something you put to Anistasia who at least shows a caring attitude and is willing to stand up for her compassionate view; putting her down by using the term 'idiot' is completely unneccessary. I quoted the term it in one of my responses because it is a very unpleasant reaction to a reasonable perspective.
First things first, you clearly do not understand the word Xenophobia, it is clear to all. It is such a basic word it is hard to misunderstand. You are not Xenophobic if you disagree with someone, this is basic stuff.

Secondly, Anastasia wrote 'Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.'... So she states quite clearly that anybody that red thumps an article are sadists? you clearly need a dictionary. The closest analogy I can think of at the moment is President Bush saying 'if you aint with us, you are against us' he was an idiot too.

I can feel compassion for a creature, but disagree with somebodies sickly treacle take on it, yet I am accused of being a sadist if I red thumb an article. I can support a ban on the fur trade but hate the ALF who share some of my views.

You really must try to see shades rather than black and white, and you must must must stop using words you do not understand....you are looking like a bit of an Anastasia!

I will not respond to anymore of your posts!
[quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?[/p][/quote]No. I am suggesting you are xenophobic. You called Anistasia an 'idiot' for having a few contrary to your own; her view was one of compassion for the seagull. Xenophobia isn't just about being phobic of 'foreigners' ('immigrants' in your terms) but also being phobic of people with a view contrary to yours. Something you put to Anistasia who at least shows a caring attitude and is willing to stand up for her compassionate view; putting her down by using the term 'idiot' is completely unneccessary. I quoted the term it in one of my responses because it is a very unpleasant reaction to a reasonable perspective.[/p][/quote]First things first, you clearly do not understand the word Xenophobia, it is clear to all. It is such a basic word it is hard to misunderstand. You are not Xenophobic if you disagree with someone, this is basic stuff. Secondly, Anastasia wrote 'Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.'... So she states quite clearly that anybody that red thumps an article are sadists? you clearly need a dictionary. The closest analogy I can think of at the moment is President Bush saying 'if you aint with us, you are against us' he was an idiot too. I can feel compassion for a creature, but disagree with somebodies sickly treacle take on it, yet I am accused of being a sadist if I red thumb an article. I can support a ban on the fur trade but hate the ALF who share some of my views. You really must try to see shades rather than black and white, and you must must must stop using words you do not understand....you are looking like a bit of an Anastasia! I will not respond to anymore of your posts! eeoodares
  • Score: -5

4:58pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Reasonable person says...

eeoodares wrote:
Reasonable person wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Reasonable person wrote:
My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.
Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?
No. I am suggesting you are xenophobic. You called Anistasia an 'idiot' for having a few contrary to your own; her view was one of compassion for the seagull. Xenophobia isn't just about being phobic of 'foreigners' ('immigrants' in your terms) but also being phobic of people with a view contrary to yours. Something you put to Anistasia who at least shows a caring attitude and is willing to stand up for her compassionate view; putting her down by using the term 'idiot' is completely unneccessary. I quoted the term it in one of my responses because it is a very unpleasant reaction to a reasonable perspective.
First things first, you clearly do not understand the word Xenophobia, it is clear to all. It is such a basic word it is hard to misunderstand. You are not Xenophobic if you disagree with someone, this is basic stuff.

Secondly, Anastasia wrote 'Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.'... So she states quite clearly that anybody that red thumps an article are sadists? you clearly need a dictionary. The closest analogy I can think of at the moment is President Bush saying 'if you aint with us, you are against us' he was an idiot too.

I can feel compassion for a creature, but disagree with somebodies sickly treacle take on it, yet I am accused of being a sadist if I red thumb an article. I can support a ban on the fur trade but hate the ALF who share some of my views.

You really must try to see shades rather than black and white, and you must must must stop using words you do not understand....you are looking like a bit of an Anastasia!

I will not respond to anymore of your posts!
I am so glad you won't be responding to any more of my posts.

So - can I suggest you go on an 'anger management' course.

The questions and comments below are not requiring a response, I have posted these as an illustration of why such a course might be useful to you:

Why do you need to use exclamation marks (the equivalent of shouting)?

What is all the 'you must must stop...' business? What gives you the right to be so dictatorial?

Why call Anastasia an 'idiot'?

Can I also suggest you read more widely around the subject of xenophobia rather than being so dogmatic yourself? You may find it also means that you find it 'strange' or 'foreign' that people object to something that you find acceptable e.g. animal cruelty. More loosely if you read:
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Xenophobia
'Xenophobia is the unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange'

I would imagine Anastasia's reaction to your post reflects her feeling of being verbally abused (by being called an 'idiot' with an exclamation mark).

The words 'pot, kettle and black' spring to mind..or should that be 'red' - for anger...I don't suppose you were one of the 'yobs' that painted the bird red (or the previous bird yellow?)...

The original story was about 'Yobs painting a seagull red'....Try readng the Wiki definition of animal cruelty:
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Cruelty_to_
animals
Which includes: 'It usually encompasses inflicting harm for personal amusement, that is zoosadism'

So try reading this:
http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Zoosadism
Which includes: 'Zoosadism is pleasure derived from cruelty to animals'

Now I expect you will respond despite promises to the contrary...
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Reasonable person[/bold] wrote: My mistake....what I meant was xenophobic.[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting the Gull was an immigrant?[/p][/quote]No. I am suggesting you are xenophobic. You called Anistasia an 'idiot' for having a few contrary to your own; her view was one of compassion for the seagull. Xenophobia isn't just about being phobic of 'foreigners' ('immigrants' in your terms) but also being phobic of people with a view contrary to yours. Something you put to Anistasia who at least shows a caring attitude and is willing to stand up for her compassionate view; putting her down by using the term 'idiot' is completely unneccessary. I quoted the term it in one of my responses because it is a very unpleasant reaction to a reasonable perspective.[/p][/quote]First things first, you clearly do not understand the word Xenophobia, it is clear to all. It is such a basic word it is hard to misunderstand. You are not Xenophobic if you disagree with someone, this is basic stuff. Secondly, Anastasia wrote 'Whoever put minus points on here are sad sadistic people who like to see something suffer.now that's sick.'... So she states quite clearly that anybody that red thumps an article are sadists? you clearly need a dictionary. The closest analogy I can think of at the moment is President Bush saying 'if you aint with us, you are against us' he was an idiot too. I can feel compassion for a creature, but disagree with somebodies sickly treacle take on it, yet I am accused of being a sadist if I red thumb an article. I can support a ban on the fur trade but hate the ALF who share some of my views. You really must try to see shades rather than black and white, and you must must must stop using words you do not understand....you are looking like a bit of an Anastasia! I will not respond to anymore of your posts![/p][/quote]I am so glad you won't be responding to any more of my posts. So - can I suggest you go on an 'anger management' course. The questions and comments below are not requiring a response, I have posted these as an illustration of why such a course might be useful to you: Why do you need to use exclamation marks (the equivalent of shouting)? What is all the 'you must must stop...' business? What gives you the right to be so dictatorial? Why call Anastasia an 'idiot'? Can I also suggest you read more widely around the subject of xenophobia rather than being so dogmatic yourself? You may find it also means that you find it 'strange' or 'foreign' that people object to something that you find acceptable e.g. animal cruelty. More loosely if you read: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Xenophobia 'Xenophobia is the unreasoned fear of that which is perceived to be foreign or strange' I would imagine Anastasia's reaction to your post reflects her feeling of being verbally abused (by being called an 'idiot' with an exclamation mark). The words 'pot, kettle and black' spring to mind..or should that be 'red' - for anger...I don't suppose you were one of the 'yobs' that painted the bird red (or the previous bird yellow?)... The original story was about 'Yobs painting a seagull red'....Try readng the Wiki definition of animal cruelty: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Cruelty_to_ animals Which includes: 'It usually encompasses inflicting harm for personal amusement, that is zoosadism' So try reading this: http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Zoosadism Which includes: 'Zoosadism is pleasure derived from cruelty to animals' Now I expect you will respond despite promises to the contrary... Reasonable person
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