Restoration plans approved for Holgate Villa

An artist’s impression of the re-clad building and, inset, its current appearance.

An artist’s impression of the re-clad building and, inset, its current appearance.

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RESTORATION plans paving the way for the conversion of a 1950s York office block have been approved by city leaders.

Holgate Villa, off Holgate Road and Lowther Terrace, now looks set to be turned into 50 flats, after previous hotel plans were abandoned.

City of York Council has approved a range of works on the outside of the building, to make the conversion possible.

As part of the refurbishment, developers will re-clad the building, which they say will improve its appearance.

Artist's impressions have been sketched, showing its new copper-coloured design.

In a statement, the applicants' agent Darnton EGS Architecture said the new appearance had been chosen following discussions with the City of York Council planning department.

They said the design deliberately avoided replicating existing styles, to ensure it did not detract from nearby Victorian and Georgian buildings, and said it was "sympathetic and in keeping with the character of the area".

John Reeves, chairman of The Helmsley Group and advisor on the plans, told The Press last year when the plans were first unveiled that the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each.

He said the building was marketed for two years as a hotel but although there was interest an operator could not be found on agreeable terms.

Approving the plans, Jonathan Kenyon, development management officer for the city council, said: "The scheme would be of appropriate design, and there would be no undue impact on the amenity of neighbours or protected species."

Holgate Villa has five storeys at its Holgate Road end, reducing to three along Lowther Terrace. It was most recently been a base for several York voluntary and community groups.

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8:43am Tue 5 Aug 14

clm058 says...

show us a picture for us unaware where and what exatcly Holgate Villa is or even the artists impression mentioned it cannot be to difficult and would of thought it was obvious to put on with the story
show us a picture for us unaware where and what exatcly Holgate Villa is or even the artists impression mentioned it cannot be to difficult and would of thought it was obvious to put on with the story clm058
  • Score: -25

8:45am Tue 5 Aug 14

notmyrealname says...

50 more customers every morning for the Sainsburys on the corner... assuming they can sell or rent them all of course
50 more customers every morning for the Sainsburys on the corner... assuming they can sell or rent them all of course notmyrealname
  • Score: 6

8:50am Tue 5 Aug 14

Oaklands Resident says...

Far too many sites slated for hotel development have stalled in the City (Barbican, St Leonards Place, Hungate etc).

It means that brownfield sites, which could be used to provide homes, are being blighted for long periods of time.

Something wrong I think
Far too many sites slated for hotel development have stalled in the City (Barbican, St Leonards Place, Hungate etc). It means that brownfield sites, which could be used to provide homes, are being blighted for long periods of time. Something wrong I think Oaklands Resident
  • Score: 7

8:51am Tue 5 Aug 14

AnotherPointofView says...

clm058 wrote:
show us a picture for us unaware where and what exatcly Holgate Villa is or even the artists impression mentioned it cannot be to difficult and would of thought it was obvious to put on with the story
There is a small picture inset. Alternatively you could always look on Google street view. The view is from the junction of Holgate Road and Lowther Terrace.

It is a huge improvement on the eyesore that is currently there.
[quote][p][bold]clm058[/bold] wrote: show us a picture for us unaware where and what exatcly Holgate Villa is or even the artists impression mentioned it cannot be to difficult and would of thought it was obvious to put on with the story[/p][/quote]There is a small picture inset. Alternatively you could always look on Google street view. The view is from the junction of Holgate Road and Lowther Terrace. It is a huge improvement on the eyesore that is currently there. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: 28

8:58am Tue 5 Aug 14

meme says...

Norman.....how cheap is affordable?
These prices are very low in York and I cannot see how they could be much cheaper?
Where can apartments be provided any cheaper than this except in terrible condition and the size of a shoebox
what price do you consider is a cheap apartment with 1 bed? considering it costs £120 sq ft to build one so a 500 sq ft apartment costs £60K to build plus land say £30K and planning/professiona
l fees and contributions towards education/public open space/highways etc which probably makes another £10K per apartment?
Norman.....how cheap is affordable? These prices are very low in York and I cannot see how they could be much cheaper? Where can apartments be provided any cheaper than this except in terrible condition and the size of a shoebox what price do you consider is a cheap apartment with 1 bed? considering it costs £120 sq ft to build one so a 500 sq ft apartment costs £60K to build plus land say £30K and planning/professiona l fees and contributions towards education/public open space/highways etc which probably makes another £10K per apartment? meme
  • Score: 13

9:08am Tue 5 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each'

Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.
Greedy property sharks as you put it provide houses for those who can't afford them or only wish to work in the city on shorter term contracts..if you had the money to but one and could get £700 a month instead of 1-2 % in the bank or building society what would you do ???. Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look else where for income as the current rates do not allow them live a normal life. If new first time buyer cannot afford the current mortgage rates then they have no chance in the real world as the savers have been subsidising them for the past 5 years
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: 'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.[/p][/quote]Greedy property sharks as you put it provide houses for those who can't afford them or only wish to work in the city on shorter term contracts..if you had the money to but one and could get £700 a month instead of 1-2 % in the bank or building society what would you do ???. Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look else where for income as the current rates do not allow them live a normal life. If new first time buyer cannot afford the current mortgage rates then they have no chance in the real world as the savers have been subsidising them for the past 5 years smudge2
  • Score: 5

9:38am Tue 5 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each'

Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.
Greedy property sharks as you put it provide houses for those who can't afford them or only wish to work in the city on shorter term contracts..if you had the money to but one and could get £700 a month instead of 1-2 % in the bank or building society what would you do ???. Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look else where for income as the current rates do not allow them live a normal life. If new first time buyer cannot afford the current mortgage rates then they have no chance in the real world as the savers have been subsidising them for the past 5 years
It's all GREED. Retired folk with stacks of cash in the bank. Property SHARKS. People from down south snapping up two or three of these flats. GREED. GREED. GREED.

What about 'local' people? Do you even care about the youth of today?
You need to stop being green eyed or you will never be happy with your life..Anger destroys human beings . If you can afford a house buy one or if not either rent or live at home . It's you choice and your life to make something of your self instead of moaning and blaming everybody else for your own failures .
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: 'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.[/p][/quote]Greedy property sharks as you put it provide houses for those who can't afford them or only wish to work in the city on shorter term contracts..if you had the money to but one and could get £700 a month instead of 1-2 % in the bank or building society what would you do ???. Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look else where for income as the current rates do not allow them live a normal life. If new first time buyer cannot afford the current mortgage rates then they have no chance in the real world as the savers have been subsidising them for the past 5 years[/p][/quote]It's all GREED. Retired folk with stacks of cash in the bank. Property SHARKS. People from down south snapping up two or three of these flats. GREED. GREED. GREED. What about 'local' people? Do you even care about the youth of today?[/p][/quote]You need to stop being green eyed or you will never be happy with your life..Anger destroys human beings . If you can afford a house buy one or if not either rent or live at home . It's you choice and your life to make something of your self instead of moaning and blaming everybody else for your own failures . smudge2
  • Score: 14

9:58am Tue 5 Aug 14

Paul Hepworth says...

Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on.
I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time.
It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.
Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on. I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time. It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent. Paul Hepworth
  • Score: -23

10:01am Tue 5 Aug 14

sheddie says...

When I saw the headline I thought 'Stonebow' for a few glorious seconds...
When I saw the headline I thought 'Stonebow' for a few glorious seconds... sheddie
  • Score: 11

10:04am Tue 5 Aug 14

smudge2 says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on.
I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time.
It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.
Now you have been exposed by the press you are not using your pedalling paul alias ...Has the account been closed ??
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on. I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time. It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.[/p][/quote]Now you have been exposed by the press you are not using your pedalling paul alias ...Has the account been closed ?? smudge2
  • Score: 20

10:34am Tue 5 Aug 14

anti-rant says...

It needs to be seen if these flats will be simply 'affordable' or classed as affordable homes which are usually bought by (not-for-profit) Housing Associations, then rented back to the city for low-income tenants.

The cynic in me says they will be affordable, not for housing. We shall see.
It needs to be seen if these flats will be simply 'affordable' or classed as affordable homes which are usually bought by (not-for-profit) Housing Associations, then rented back to the city for low-income tenants. The cynic in me says they will be affordable, not for housing. We shall see. anti-rant
  • Score: -1

10:46am Tue 5 Aug 14

york_chap says...

It's a definite improvement; but it's a shame they're using brown cladding instead of a layer of traditional brick. Brickwork would be much more in keeping with the area and would last indefinitely - how long does this brown stuff last? Brown window frames also seem a peculiar choice these days.

I'm guessing £110k is probably for a studio flat or a ground floor one round the back somewhere, but on the whole that price range doesn't seem bad, considering the proximity to the city centre (assuming the structure/quality etc are decent).

The report doesn't mention how many social housing units aka 'affordable homes' are included though; if there are a lot it could explain the more modest asking price for the private units.
It's a definite improvement; but it's a shame they're using brown cladding instead of a layer of traditional brick. Brickwork would be much more in keeping with the area and would last indefinitely - how long does this brown stuff last? Brown window frames also seem a peculiar choice these days. I'm guessing £110k is probably for a studio flat or a ground floor one round the back somewhere, but on the whole that price range doesn't seem bad, considering the proximity to the city centre (assuming the structure/quality etc are decent). The report doesn't mention how many social housing units aka 'affordable homes' are included though; if there are a lot it could explain the more modest asking price for the private units. york_chap
  • Score: 7

11:03am Tue 5 Aug 14

Ichabod76 says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on.
I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time.
It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.
Will you be addressing this today Paul ?

Haddie Nuff says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors.
Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local
media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have
arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as
“Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press."
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on. I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time. It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.[/p][/quote]Will you be addressing this today Paul ? Haddie Nuff says... pedalling paul wrote: Oh dear PH, you seem to have stirred up a hornet's nest.........but identity confusion still seems to reign in the mind of some contributors. Seems as if CTC are also confused as their annual report quite clearly states "Paul Hepworth has maintained a watching brief on local media, and responded on our behalf to cycling related issues that have arisen being a prolific correspondent in the “Letters” page and as “Pedalling Paul” on website of the York Press." Ichabod76
  • Score: 7

11:44am Tue 5 Aug 14

Alf Garnett says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each'

Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.
Seem fairly reasonable prices. As for affordability, a Mars bar is unaffordable if you haven't sixpence, or whatever they cost nowadays.
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: 'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.[/p][/quote]Seem fairly reasonable prices. As for affordability, a Mars bar is unaffordable if you haven't sixpence, or whatever they cost nowadays. Alf Garnett
  • Score: 10

11:56am Tue 5 Aug 14

Alf Garnett says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each'

Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.
Greedy property sharks as you put it provide houses for those who can't afford them or only wish to work in the city on shorter term contracts..if you had the money to but one and could get £700 a month instead of 1-2 % in the bank or building society what would you do ???. Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look else where for income as the current rates do not allow them live a normal life. If new first time buyer cannot afford the current mortgage rates then they have no chance in the real world as the savers have been subsidising them for the past 5 years
It's all GREED. Retired folk with stacks of cash in the bank. Property SHARKS. People from down south snapping up two or three of these flats. GREED. GREED. GREED.

What about 'local' people? Do you even care about the youth of today?
Glory, you are having a bad day. " Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look elsewhere for income" and " retired folk with stacks of cash in the bank" . "People from down south" (Doncaster, Nottingham, where's the line ?) "what about local people ?" Indeed what about them, one has to ask. What is "local" by the way ? Born here; born but moved away and then moved back; moved here recently, ten, twenty, thirty years ago. Local pre the boundary changes or post. Does Deighton count ? I think that modern life may have passed you by. You're not one of the Sussex van Hoogstratens by any chance ?
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: 'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.[/p][/quote]Greedy property sharks as you put it provide houses for those who can't afford them or only wish to work in the city on shorter term contracts..if you had the money to but one and could get £700 a month instead of 1-2 % in the bank or building society what would you do ???. Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look else where for income as the current rates do not allow them live a normal life. If new first time buyer cannot afford the current mortgage rates then they have no chance in the real world as the savers have been subsidising them for the past 5 years[/p][/quote]It's all GREED. Retired folk with stacks of cash in the bank. Property SHARKS. People from down south snapping up two or three of these flats. GREED. GREED. GREED. What about 'local' people? Do you even care about the youth of today?[/p][/quote]Glory, you are having a bad day. " Most people who retired with savings have been forced to look elsewhere for income" and " retired folk with stacks of cash in the bank" . "People from down south" (Doncaster, Nottingham, where's the line ?) "what about local people ?" Indeed what about them, one has to ask. What is "local" by the way ? Born here; born but moved away and then moved back; moved here recently, ten, twenty, thirty years ago. Local pre the boundary changes or post. Does Deighton count ? I think that modern life may have passed you by. You're not one of the Sussex van Hoogstratens by any chance ? Alf Garnett
  • Score: 7

12:16pm Tue 5 Aug 14

It's your round says...

I think it will be a massiv eimprovement to the eyesore that is there currently.

Given that they are a stone's throw away from the railway station, the city centre and the racecourse I do think that they are quite reasonably priced.
I think it will be a massiv eimprovement to the eyesore that is there currently. Given that they are a stone's throw away from the railway station, the city centre and the racecourse I do think that they are quite reasonably priced. It's your round
  • Score: 8

12:19pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Pinza-C55 says...

From the photo I would say it will look about as good as it can, except for the entrance which looks ugly. I do find it curious that that they are halving the window space to each flat ?
From the photo I would say it will look about as good as it can, except for the entrance which looks ugly. I do find it curious that that they are halving the window space to each flat ? Pinza-C55
  • Score: 6

1:11pm Tue 5 Aug 14

MaggieRules says...

Great more flats! Having worked in them for a short period of time, all I can say is I hope the residents wont mind all the drug dealing, and junkies hanging about to steal anything that is not locked down! Still a nice view of the railway junction and freight trainings waiting on the avoiding lines all night.
Great more flats! Having worked in them for a short period of time, all I can say is I hope the residents wont mind all the drug dealing, and junkies hanging about to steal anything that is not locked down! Still a nice view of the railway junction and freight trainings waiting on the avoiding lines all night. MaggieRules
  • Score: -7

1:51pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Jorvik1980 says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.
There is an opportunity here to make some affordable to first time buyers and they could also screen potential buyers so they are not all snapped up by landlords. You have a point though and those with money will probably buy to let.
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: 'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.[/p][/quote]There is an opportunity here to make some affordable to first time buyers and they could also screen potential buyers so they are not all snapped up by landlords. You have a point though and those with money will probably buy to let. Jorvik1980
  • Score: 3

3:09pm Tue 5 Aug 14

Monks Boss says...

I think its excellent that people want to spend money on tidying up such an eyesore,and if they make money in the process then good luck to them.I wish Stonebow and Ryedale house could also be renovated!
I think its excellent that people want to spend money on tidying up such an eyesore,and if they make money in the process then good luck to them.I wish Stonebow and Ryedale house could also be renovated! Monks Boss
  • Score: 8

4:01pm Tue 5 Aug 14

meme says...

so Norman what do you consider affordable
I notice you did not answer the question but just went on about GREED
How do you think properties are built or should we just be given one each by the Government?
I am seriously interested in what you believe is an affordable property and not looking to get into a fight or personal insults
so Norman what do you consider affordable I notice you did not answer the question but just went on about GREED How do you think properties are built or should we just be given one each by the Government? I am seriously interested in what you believe is an affordable property and not looking to get into a fight or personal insults meme
  • Score: 4

5:20pm Tue 5 Aug 14

yorkandproud says...

Jorvik1980 wrote:
Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.
There is an opportunity here to make some affordable to first time buyers and they could also screen potential buyers so they are not all snapped up by landlords. You have a point though and those with money will probably buy to let.
Many of the so called "greedy property sharks", are just ordinary people who have used their retirement lump sums, and savings to buy a flat or house with the money that would be shrinking, "in real terms" in a bank. They mostly own just one property. They are not sharks, not greedy, but sensible people who dont want to see their nest egg disappear.
[quote][p][bold]Jorvik1980[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: 'John Reeves, advisor on the plans, says the flats would be relatively affordable, priced between £110,000 and £165,000 each' Relatively affordable to who? It won't be first time buyers that is for sure. Like all flats the comes up for sale in York - they will be snapped up by greedy property sharks and then rented out for £700 a month.[/p][/quote]There is an opportunity here to make some affordable to first time buyers and they could also screen potential buyers so they are not all snapped up by landlords. You have a point though and those with money will probably buy to let.[/p][/quote]Many of the so called "greedy property sharks", are just ordinary people who have used their retirement lump sums, and savings to buy a flat or house with the money that would be shrinking, "in real terms" in a bank. They mostly own just one property. They are not sharks, not greedy, but sensible people who dont want to see their nest egg disappear. yorkandproud
  • Score: 2

6:08pm Tue 5 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Norman Van Hoogstraten wrote:
clm058 wrote:
show us a picture for us unaware where and what exatcly Holgate Villa is or even the artists impression mentioned it cannot be to difficult and would of thought it was obvious to put on with the story
If you don't know where Holgate Road is, you don't deserve a slice of toast, let alone a picture of Holgate Villa.
Norman Van Hoogstraten aka Norman of the High Street, that's your name in English, you seem a little angry, do you have a problem?
[quote][p][bold]Norman Van Hoogstraten[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]clm058[/bold] wrote: show us a picture for us unaware where and what exatcly Holgate Villa is or even the artists impression mentioned it cannot be to difficult and would of thought it was obvious to put on with the story[/p][/quote]If you don't know where Holgate Road is, you don't deserve a slice of toast, let alone a picture of Holgate Villa.[/p][/quote]Norman Van Hoogstraten aka Norman of the High Street, that's your name in English, you seem a little angry, do you have a problem? notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -1

6:14pm Tue 5 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on.
I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time.
It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.
You never give up do you, hope there is an equal amount of car parking as well, as all the flat owners won't necessarily want to go into the city, but if the do they wouldn't need a bike, you can walk into the city in 10/15 mins from there.
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: Used to be known as Fawlty Towers during my rail industry employment there. Loading restrictions on the floor and so on. I attended a CoYC public meeting on the once planned conversion to a hotel. The developer vehemently threatened to go to appeal if Planning Consent was refused. Maybe he shoud have done his sums at the time. It will be good to see the exterior view improved. Hopefully given its proximity to the City centre, many residents will be encouraged to buy and use bikes, Secure internal bike storage must be a condition of Planning Consent.[/p][/quote]You never give up do you, hope there is an equal amount of car parking as well, as all the flat owners won't necessarily want to go into the city, but if the do they wouldn't need a bike, you can walk into the city in 10/15 mins from there. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 0

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