New community stadium still on track to be completed by July 2016

How the Community Stadium will look when it opens

How the Community Stadium will look when it opens

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YORK'S new community stadium is still on track to be completed by July 2016, despite fears raised about the project's timescale.

York City Knights rugby league club chairman John Guildford has said the team has only a handful of games left to play at their current Huntington Stadium ground after the club was given formal notice to quit ready for the redevelopment earlier this month.

While fears have been raised about the project's timescale after city councillor Sonja Crisp, the cabinet member responsible for the project, confirmed work should start in March next year and the ground will be ready by July 2016, the council have confirmed the scheme is still on track.

Meanwhile, Mr Guildford has said the Knights need to know now the details about the new community stadium to "put minds at rest", but a city council spokesman has moved to reassure people about the project, saying the July 2016 completion date was publicised in April this year, and added that the new ground will be ready for matches to be played after that handover.

A deal to find a builder and operator for the community stadium will include a new outside operator for all the council's leisure services, including Energise and Yearsley Swimming Pool, and negotiations to confirm the operators are still going on, the spokesman added.

Political opponents within the council the Liberal Democrats have also criticised the way decisions over the project have been made "behind closed doors" and without public scrutiny.

But the Labour group have hit back, saying their administration has delivered the stadium while the Liberal Democrats did not deliver either funding or planning permission in their time in power.

Mr Guildford has revealed that while they have been given formal notice to quit Huntington Stadium at the end of this season, they are yet to have a legal agreement over either their temporary stay at York City's Bootham Crescent ground - which was initially for 2015 but now runs to 2016 - or their long-term future at the rebuilt shared ground.

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12:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

meme says...

But the Labour group have hit back, saying their administration has delivered the stadium

seems to me there is a long way to go before its delivered and I would bet it wont be on time!
But the Labour group have hit back, saying their administration has delivered the stadium seems to me there is a long way to go before its delivered and I would bet it wont be on time! meme
  • Score: 9

12:10pm Tue 29 Jul 14

wildthing666 says...

Ask the contractor for a confirmed completion date in July 2016 then put a daily fine on them for every day are late something like £100,000 per day should be incentive enough.
Ask the contractor for a confirmed completion date in July 2016 then put a daily fine on them for every day are late something like £100,000 per day should be incentive enough. wildthing666
  • Score: 30

12:15pm Tue 29 Jul 14

bolero says...

Does that mean it will be completed and up and running before Poppleton Park and Ride and associated roadworks are finished?
Does that mean it will be completed and up and running before Poppleton Park and Ride and associated roadworks are finished? bolero
  • Score: 2

12:17pm Tue 29 Jul 14

The Great Buda says...

Get it built already.

Lets give the youngsters of York real facilities that can inspire them to achieve.
Get it built already. Lets give the youngsters of York real facilities that can inspire them to achieve. The Great Buda
  • Score: 25

12:37pm Tue 29 Jul 14

windowlicker says...

Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....
Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run.... windowlicker
  • Score: -15

12:57pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Justin7 says...

windowlicker wrote:
Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....
Can't stay at BC. No longer an option :(

(not unless you find several million quid behind the sofa, and no we can't use the MX money as that's ringfenced for MX by law).

Council need to pull their finger out. Tim Adkins has been highly paid for several years and we STILL don't have a drawing of the stadium. Where's the accountability for his full time work that has resulted in nothing. And no, that horrid one in the article is four years old.

We need to start a protest for answers. From attending council meetings in numbers (public gallery) to on the street and in the media.

The council isn't doing anywhere near enough to get this done, not that they care about York people. Tourists first, each and every time for them.
[quote][p][bold]windowlicker[/bold] wrote: Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....[/p][/quote]Can't stay at BC. No longer an option :( (not unless you find several million quid behind the sofa, and no we can't use the MX money as that's ringfenced for MX by law). Council need to pull their finger out. Tim Adkins has been highly paid for several years and we STILL don't have a drawing of the stadium. Where's the accountability for his full time work that has resulted in nothing. And no, that horrid one in the article is four years old. We need to start a protest for answers. From attending council meetings in numbers (public gallery) to on the street and in the media. The council isn't doing anywhere near enough to get this done, not that they care about York people. Tourists first, each and every time for them. Justin7
  • Score: 1

1:06pm Tue 29 Jul 14

SteveSCA says...

The stadium is "on track" to be built by July 2016…

…but they haven't got a builder yet.

Interesting.
The stadium is "on track" to be built by July 2016… …but they haven't got a builder yet. Interesting. SteveSCA
  • Score: 11

1:18pm Tue 29 Jul 14

yorkandproud says...

windowlicker wrote:
Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....
I love Bootham Crescent, and have done for over 50 years, but when you go to other grounds , like Chesterfield for example, the time to move is well overdue. Sorry mate.
[quote][p][bold]windowlicker[/bold] wrote: Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....[/p][/quote]I love Bootham Crescent, and have done for over 50 years, but when you go to other grounds , like Chesterfield for example, the time to move is well overdue. Sorry mate. yorkandproud
  • Score: 6

1:26pm Tue 29 Jul 14

meme says...

what does Mr Atkins the stadium czar do for his money?
can anyone enlighten the great unwashed out here or do we have to make a FOI enquiry to find out
what does Mr Atkins the stadium czar do for his money? can anyone enlighten the great unwashed out here or do we have to make a FOI enquiry to find out meme
  • Score: 7

2:03pm Tue 29 Jul 14

PMarsham says...

I received the following reply from a Neil Wilford / Community Stadium Project Officer on 24 June to an email I sent via the Community Stadium website.

"You are correct that final submissions were due at the end of May. These have been received by the Council and are now subject to thorough evaluation and scoring, as part of the procurement process.
A 'preferred' bidder will be appointed at the end of July and the associated scheme will be announced in late August/early September, subject to full Cabinet approval. At this point plans of the scheme will be made public."

Why could the public not see the 2 bids which have been submitted? As it is virtually the end of July why do we have to wait until late August / early September to see the plans of the preferred bidder.
I received the following reply from a Neil Wilford / Community Stadium Project Officer on 24 June to an email I sent via the Community Stadium website. "You are correct that final submissions were due at the end of May. These have been received by the Council and are now subject to thorough evaluation and scoring, as part of the procurement process. A 'preferred' bidder will be appointed at the end of July and the associated scheme will be announced in late August/early September, subject to full Cabinet approval. At this point plans of the scheme will be made public." Why could the public not see the 2 bids which have been submitted? As it is virtually the end of July why do we have to wait until late August / early September to see the plans of the preferred bidder. PMarsham
  • Score: 0

2:45pm Tue 29 Jul 14

LibDem says...

The £12 million funding for the stadium was negotiated by the then LibDem led Council, with developers Oakgate as part of their John Lewis store project, in 2010.

The intention was then that the store and new stadium would be built together, with a 2014 opening date,.

While some Labour Councillors can take some credit for finally getting the outline planning application approved in May 2012 (6 months after its submission) , it is the delays since then that are now causing concern.

To build and commission a 6000+ capacity stadium in in 15 months - starting in March 2015 (and assuming detailed planning permission has been granted) - is a very, very tight timescale.

We will see.
The £12 million funding for the stadium was negotiated by the then LibDem led Council, with developers Oakgate as part of their John Lewis store project, in 2010. The intention was then that the store and new stadium would be built together, with a 2014 opening date,. While some Labour Councillors can take some credit for finally getting the outline planning application approved in May 2012 (6 months after its submission) , it is the delays since then that are now causing concern. To build and commission a 6000+ capacity stadium in in 15 months - starting in March 2015 (and assuming detailed planning permission has been granted) - is a very, very tight timescale. We will see. LibDem
  • Score: 0

3:23pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Tug job says...

PMarsham wrote:
I received the following reply from a Neil Wilford / Community Stadium Project Officer on 24 June to an email I sent via the Community Stadium website.

"You are correct that final submissions were due at the end of May. These have been received by the Council and are now subject to thorough evaluation and scoring, as part of the procurement process.
A 'preferred' bidder will be appointed at the end of July and the associated scheme will be announced in late August/early September, subject to full Cabinet approval. At this point plans of the scheme will be made public."

Why could the public not see the 2 bids which have been submitted? As it is virtually the end of July why do we have to wait until late August / early September to see the plans of the preferred bidder.
According to the tender documents on the OJEU website, procurement is due to finish at the end of July. A period of time, usually 10-20 working days, is allowed for any legal challenges, after which the successful bidder can be announced. So that would tie-in with the late August timescale cited a over. I note that the tender documents were published in September 2012, which seems a very long time for what is a fairly small contract.
[quote][p][bold]PMarsham[/bold] wrote: I received the following reply from a Neil Wilford / Community Stadium Project Officer on 24 June to an email I sent via the Community Stadium website. "You are correct that final submissions were due at the end of May. These have been received by the Council and are now subject to thorough evaluation and scoring, as part of the procurement process. A 'preferred' bidder will be appointed at the end of July and the associated scheme will be announced in late August/early September, subject to full Cabinet approval. At this point plans of the scheme will be made public." Why could the public not see the 2 bids which have been submitted? As it is virtually the end of July why do we have to wait until late August / early September to see the plans of the preferred bidder.[/p][/quote]According to the tender documents on the OJEU website, procurement is due to finish at the end of July. A period of time, usually 10-20 working days, is allowed for any legal challenges, after which the successful bidder can be announced. So that would tie-in with the late August timescale cited a over. I note that the tender documents were published in September 2012, which seems a very long time for what is a fairly small contract. Tug job
  • Score: 7

3:54pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Fat Harry says...

"I note that the tender documents were published in September 2012, which seems a very long time for what is a fairly small contract"

Nail on the head, Tug Job.

I tend towards the view that the current administration has done a better job of moving this forward than the previous one did. The Liberals did well for a while but seemed to take their eye off the ball after they leapt into bed with the Tories and their anti-YCFC leader.

That said, the current administration's insistence that one compnay design, build AND operate the stadium is surely what's caused much of the subsequent delay - seeking a company to do all three surely looking limits the pool of candidates to a very small number. For example, Shepherd's have done a brilliant job on various new stands at Knavesmire over the years, but you'd never expect them to take over operating the racecourse as well.

I can't help feeling that if in 2012 they'd asked for someone to submit design & build bids only, the stadium could have been nearing commpletion now, and we could have been awaiting an announcement as to who was going to operate it.

Personally it think YCFC and/or the the rugby club should be the operators, as people who actually have some knowledge of what's needed, but instead I fear it will be Joe's Builders plc who'll then subcontract to some bunch of cowboys like Atos, Serco, or Sodexo.
"I note that the tender documents were published in September 2012, which seems a very long time for what is a fairly small contract" Nail on the head, Tug Job. I tend towards the view that the current administration has done a better job of moving this forward than the previous one did. The Liberals did well for a while but seemed to take their eye off the ball after they leapt into bed with the Tories and their anti-YCFC leader. That said, the current administration's insistence that one compnay design, build AND operate the stadium is surely what's caused much of the subsequent delay - seeking a company to do all three surely looking limits the pool of candidates to a very small number. For example, Shepherd's have done a brilliant job on various new stands at Knavesmire over the years, but you'd never expect them to take over operating the racecourse as well. I can't help feeling that if in 2012 they'd asked for someone to submit design & build bids only, the stadium could have been nearing commpletion now, and we could have been awaiting an announcement as to who was going to operate it. Personally it think YCFC and/or the the rugby club should be the operators, as people who actually have some knowledge of what's needed, but instead I fear it will be Joe's Builders plc who'll then subcontract to some bunch of cowboys like Atos, Serco, or Sodexo. Fat Harry
  • Score: -2

4:17pm Tue 29 Jul 14

meme says...

so there are only 2 bidders I assume because its a build and run it contract
That's hardly opening it up to competition or likely to get a keen build price but I suspect we all know who will get this job.............. don't we?
shhh u know who
so there are only 2 bidders I assume because its a build and run it contract That's hardly opening it up to competition or likely to get a keen build price but I suspect we all know who will get this job.............. don't we? shhh u know who meme
  • Score: -3

4:42pm Tue 29 Jul 14

powerwatt says...

Anyone in the construction industry can tell you getting the same person to design, build and operate the stadium is madness. No wonder it has taken so long. Would hate to imagine how over budget it will be 2 years too late
Anyone in the construction industry can tell you getting the same person to design, build and operate the stadium is madness. No wonder it has taken so long. Would hate to imagine how over budget it will be 2 years too late powerwatt
  • Score: 4

4:52pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Jack Ham says...

No contractors, interim staff with scant background knowledge, deteriorating financial situation, rapid loss of political support and authority.

July 2016 completion. I wouldn't bet on it.
No contractors, interim staff with scant background knowledge, deteriorating financial situation, rapid loss of political support and authority. July 2016 completion. I wouldn't bet on it. Jack Ham
  • Score: 2

5:21pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Tug job says...

Fat Harry wrote:
"I note that the tender documents were published in September 2012, which seems a very long time for what is a fairly small contract"

Nail on the head, Tug Job.

I tend towards the view that the current administration has done a better job of moving this forward than the previous one did. The Liberals did well for a while but seemed to take their eye off the ball after they leapt into bed with the Tories and their anti-YCFC leader.

That said, the current administration's insistence that one compnay design, build AND operate the stadium is surely what's caused much of the subsequent delay - seeking a company to do all three surely looking limits the pool of candidates to a very small number. For example, Shepherd's have done a brilliant job on various new stands at Knavesmire over the years, but you'd never expect them to take over operating the racecourse as well.

I can't help feeling that if in 2012 they'd asked for someone to submit design & build bids only, the stadium could have been nearing commpletion now, and we could have been awaiting an announcement as to who was going to operate it.

Personally it think YCFC and/or the the rugby club should be the operators, as people who actually have some knowledge of what's needed, but instead I fear it will be Joe's Builders plc who'll then subcontract to some bunch of cowboys like Atos, Serco, or Sodexo.
Please, God, not ATOS!
[quote][p][bold]Fat Harry[/bold] wrote: "I note that the tender documents were published in September 2012, which seems a very long time for what is a fairly small contract" Nail on the head, Tug Job. I tend towards the view that the current administration has done a better job of moving this forward than the previous one did. The Liberals did well for a while but seemed to take their eye off the ball after they leapt into bed with the Tories and their anti-YCFC leader. That said, the current administration's insistence that one compnay design, build AND operate the stadium is surely what's caused much of the subsequent delay - seeking a company to do all three surely looking limits the pool of candidates to a very small number. For example, Shepherd's have done a brilliant job on various new stands at Knavesmire over the years, but you'd never expect them to take over operating the racecourse as well. I can't help feeling that if in 2012 they'd asked for someone to submit design & build bids only, the stadium could have been nearing commpletion now, and we could have been awaiting an announcement as to who was going to operate it. Personally it think YCFC and/or the the rugby club should be the operators, as people who actually have some knowledge of what's needed, but instead I fear it will be Joe's Builders plc who'll then subcontract to some bunch of cowboys like Atos, Serco, or Sodexo.[/p][/quote]Please, God, not ATOS! Tug job
  • Score: -4

6:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

non pedalling pete says...

The new operator will also be responsible for running energise and yearsly pool. Will this spell the end for yearsly pool and will Fiona Evans step up to the plate again to save it.
The new operator will also be responsible for running energise and yearsly pool. Will this spell the end for yearsly pool and will Fiona Evans step up to the plate again to save it. non pedalling pete
  • Score: -5

6:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

dementia says...

Who cares if the Knights don't have a new home .They have been anti since day one!
Who cares if the Knights don't have a new home .They have been anti since day one! dementia
  • Score: -10

6:46pm Tue 29 Jul 14

york central says...

Justin7 wrote:
windowlicker wrote:
Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....
Can't stay at BC. No longer an option :(

(not unless you find several million quid behind the sofa, and no we can't use the MX money as that's ringfenced for MX by law).

Council need to pull their finger out. Tim Adkins has been highly paid for several years and we STILL don't have a drawing of the stadium. Where's the accountability for his full time work that has resulted in nothing. And no, that horrid one in the article is four years old.

We need to start a protest for answers. From attending council meetings in numbers (public gallery) to on the street and in the media.

The council isn't doing anywhere near enough to get this done, not that they care about York people. Tourists first, each and every time for them.
Erm, that is not factually correct. It is mistruth perpetuated by those who have a vested interest in reclaiming the money lent, whilst taking control of the club.
The McGills will be getting nearly all the "investment" back when the club move and the residual value is realised in cash by Persimmons Homes final purchase.
All parties involved have protracted this farce.
Tim Atkins has trousered at least £75,000 a year in wages to " identify at site". This was almost immediately rubber stamped and everything else thrown out by the clubs owners when published.
Not forgetting that when the now club owners, categorically rejected drawn designed plans for a stadium at Monks X.
Along come M&S , John Lewis Plc looking to build not required out of town developments , and hey presto, the only option for YCFC is to move out of town..... to the place where was not viable before..
Suddenly amounts of £7million and I've heard of £13million to stay at BC are banded about.
What isn't and has no ever been discussed publically is , money gained via planning gain.
This doesn't required to be used at the exact facility which developers are looking to expand.
It could have been diverted to BC for the club to stay there.
The fly in the owners ointment, is they wouldn't have been able to get their "investment" back. That "investment / purchase" now is looking like a cheap purchase.
Persimmons could be given / buy the Huntington stadium land for their housing project. There would be far more than what BC offers.
Before someone mentions parking... how long has the ground been there ? use park and ride . parking at traffic at Monks X will be no better and shoppers who have no interest in football or rugby won't be thanking you.
Walking to the ground at BC is far greener than driving 2 miles out of town.
It's been made a political football by all parties and those self interested owners and developers.
Still no one is interested in telling us how it's going to work.
A new word is required for the oxford dictionary as Farce doesn't cover it anymore.
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]windowlicker[/bold] wrote: Are they still limiting the size by building an all seater? A stay at B C group needs forming as this new stadium farce is set to run and run....[/p][/quote]Can't stay at BC. No longer an option :( (not unless you find several million quid behind the sofa, and no we can't use the MX money as that's ringfenced for MX by law). Council need to pull their finger out. Tim Adkins has been highly paid for several years and we STILL don't have a drawing of the stadium. Where's the accountability for his full time work that has resulted in nothing. And no, that horrid one in the article is four years old. We need to start a protest for answers. From attending council meetings in numbers (public gallery) to on the street and in the media. The council isn't doing anywhere near enough to get this done, not that they care about York people. Tourists first, each and every time for them.[/p][/quote]Erm, that is not factually correct. It is mistruth perpetuated by those who have a vested interest in reclaiming the money lent, whilst taking control of the club. The McGills will be getting nearly all the "investment" back when the club move and the residual value is realised in cash by Persimmons Homes final purchase. All parties involved have protracted this farce. Tim Atkins has trousered at least £75,000 a year in wages to " identify at site". This was almost immediately rubber stamped and everything else thrown out by the clubs owners when published. Not forgetting that when the now club owners, categorically rejected drawn designed plans for a stadium at Monks X. Along come M&S , John Lewis Plc looking to build not required out of town developments , and hey presto, the only option for YCFC is to move out of town..... to the place where was not viable before.. Suddenly amounts of £7million and I've heard of £13million to stay at BC are banded about. What isn't and has no ever been discussed publically is , money gained via planning gain. This doesn't required to be used at the exact facility which developers are looking to expand. It could have been diverted to BC for the club to stay there. The fly in the owners ointment, is they wouldn't have been able to get their "investment" back. That "investment / purchase" now is looking like a cheap purchase. Persimmons could be given / buy the Huntington stadium land for their housing project. There would be far more than what BC offers. Before someone mentions parking... how long has the ground been there ? use park and ride . parking at traffic at Monks X will be no better and shoppers who have no interest in football or rugby won't be thanking you. Walking to the ground at BC is far greener than driving 2 miles out of town. It's been made a political football by all parties and those self interested owners and developers. Still no one is interested in telling us how it's going to work. A new word is required for the oxford dictionary as Farce doesn't cover it anymore. york central
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