Public promised a say on changes to services

Burnholme College: A health and wellbeing hub is proposed there

Burnholme College: A health and wellbeing hub is proposed there

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THE public is to get a say on proposals that could see private companies, volunteers and even other local authorities take over some public services in York in the council's drive to transform the way it delivers services in the city.

Yesterday, the City of York Council's cabinet heard a report on the "Rewiring Public Services" project, and agreed proposals for the next stage of the scheme which will involve staff and residents engagement projects between July and September this year.

The cabinet also heard from the Unison representative Heather Mackenzie, who said union members at the council were concerned about the use of mutuals and wholly owned companies to run council services, and urged the cabinet not to ignore the ready made effective network of employees that their membership could provide.

She argued that the council should see providing quality services in-house as the best option, and warned there was a danger that private or volunteer organisations would not stand the test of time and would leave the council to pick up the pieces once they failed.

The union also raised concerns about the drive to provide more council services online and the way that could leave vulnerable people unable to get the help they need.

But Cllr Daffyd Williams, the cabinet member responsible, said he fully accepted the concerns about digital services for some parts of the community, but said the council needed to allow and help people to get council services online.

The meeting also saw the early stages of plans to redevelop the Burnholme College site into a "Health and Wellbeing Hub" approved, and the next phase of Reinvigorate York given the formal go ahead.

On the Burnholme plans, Cllr Williams responded to questions from Osbaldwick councillor Mark Warters about plans to build on green space at the site saying: "Building on the playing fields is not being proposed, and any suggestions that it is is simply scaremongering."

Cabinet members agreed to let officials to look for an outside company to manage the Burnholme project, and approved over-all plans for a £270,000 project to improve the bus interchange near the Theatre Royal and Exhibition Square.

Cabinet members rubber stamped the proposals, but heard that final decisions on design and cost will be taken by senior officials and Cllr David Levene, who as cabinet member for transport is responsible for the project.

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12:05pm Wed 2 Jul 14

nowthen says...

I no longer believe a single word that the Labour led council tell me.
I no longer believe a single word that the Labour led council tell me. nowthen
  • Score: 43

12:07pm Wed 2 Jul 14

BL2 says...

Public services should be public run by public bodies. "Private" should not have anything to do with them!
Public services should be public run by public bodies. "Private" should not have anything to do with them! BL2
  • Score: 35

12:17pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Zetkin says...

Will Labour be honest enough to campaign for next year's elections with a slogan of "Privatise! Privatise! Privatise!"?

Somehow I doubt it. A once respectable party is now completely immersed in the sewer of Thatcherism, swimming happily alongside the Tories, Liberals and UKIP.
Will Labour be honest enough to campaign for next year's elections with a slogan of "Privatise! Privatise! Privatise!"? Somehow I doubt it. A once respectable party is now completely immersed in the sewer of Thatcherism, swimming happily alongside the Tories, Liberals and UKIP. Zetkin
  • Score: 22

1:08pm Wed 2 Jul 14

AnotherPointofView says...

nowthen wrote:
I no longer believe a single word that the Labour led council tell me.
No, that was my thought too, especially when Cllr Leverne was mentioned.

He came into transport taking over from the discredited Merret when the Lendal Bridge fiasco collapsed. He came in promising talking to all concerned about road use in York. That's never come to anything so I don't believe this "promise" will either.
[quote][p][bold]nowthen[/bold] wrote: I no longer believe a single word that the Labour led council tell me.[/p][/quote]No, that was my thought too, especially when Cllr Leverne was mentioned. He came into transport taking over from the discredited Merret when the Lendal Bridge fiasco collapsed. He came in promising talking to all concerned about road use in York. That's never come to anything so I don't believe this "promise" will either. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: 39

1:08pm Wed 2 Jul 14

AnotherPointofView says...

nowthen wrote:
I no longer believe a single word that the Labour led council tell me.
No, that was my thought too, especially when Cllr Leverne was mentioned.

He came into transport taking over from the discredited Merret when the Lendal Bridge fiasco collapsed. He came in promising talking to all concerned about road use in York. That's never come to anything so I don't believe this "promise" will either.
[quote][p][bold]nowthen[/bold] wrote: I no longer believe a single word that the Labour led council tell me.[/p][/quote]No, that was my thought too, especially when Cllr Leverne was mentioned. He came into transport taking over from the discredited Merret when the Lendal Bridge fiasco collapsed. He came in promising talking to all concerned about road use in York. That's never come to anything so I don't believe this "promise" will either. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: 20

1:23pm Wed 2 Jul 14

LadyYork1979 says...

Just like the public were consulted over the Lendal Bridge fiasco.... ok then I believe you
Just like the public were consulted over the Lendal Bridge fiasco.... ok then I believe you LadyYork1979
  • Score: 28

1:39pm Wed 2 Jul 14

York1900 says...

Private companies will do a good job till they have pushed Public Services out of the way then private companies see it as time to cash in and the true profit cost can be realised and they then bleed the public dry

We have already seen it in housing where private landlords charge 4 to 5 times social housing costs

This is just another plan like government and councils seem to be doing to remove them selves from taking any direct control over services that they supposed to provide this

In turn means that the voting public as no say as those elected have given the day to day control over to private companies meaning when we complain about a service it as to go through mass of different over paid hands before it gets sorted out
Private companies will do a good job till they have pushed Public Services out of the way then private companies see it as time to cash in and the true profit cost can be realised and they then bleed the public dry We have already seen it in housing where private landlords charge 4 to 5 times social housing costs This is just another plan like government and councils seem to be doing to remove them selves from taking any direct control over services that they supposed to provide this In turn means that the voting public as no say as those elected have given the day to day control over to private companies meaning when we complain about a service it as to go through mass of different over paid hands before it gets sorted out York1900
  • Score: 16

4:38pm Wed 2 Jul 14

MarkyMarkMark says...

Of course, many of the things we now think of as Council Services were once run entirely by voluntary groups, charities and even private companies, and/or funded by public donation of wealthy benefactors. Feels like were going back in time to the early part of the 20th Century.

Churches and charities ran orphanages, hospitals, libraries, schools, community centres and the like. Until the rise of what we now call "the state" which took control and taxed all those with an income to provide for it, ensuring a more even distribution of costs amongst the wider society.

My concern is not that suitable bodies don't exist, or have the will to run social institutions, but that (a) they have no recent experience of doing so, in most cases, and (b) there's no way they can run organisations at the same scale and breadth of services without adequate funding.

Roll on the day when we get to a benevolent minded society again, and the money isn't allocated by politically driven central or local government.
Of course, many of the things we now think of as Council Services were once run entirely by voluntary groups, charities and even private companies, and/or funded by public donation of wealthy benefactors. Feels like were going back in time to the early part of the 20th Century. Churches and charities ran orphanages, hospitals, libraries, schools, community centres and the like. Until the rise of what we now call "the state" which took control and taxed all those with an income to provide for it, ensuring a more even distribution of costs amongst the wider society. My concern is not that suitable bodies don't exist, or have the will to run social institutions, but that (a) they have no recent experience of doing so, in most cases, and (b) there's no way they can run organisations at the same scale and breadth of services without adequate funding. Roll on the day when we get to a benevolent minded society again, and the money isn't allocated by politically driven central or local government. MarkyMarkMark
  • Score: 8

6:34pm Wed 2 Jul 14

non pedalling pete says...

Another £270.000 waste of money.
Another £270.000 waste of money. non pedalling pete
  • Score: 5

7:06pm Wed 2 Jul 14

mack says...

How many hubs does this council have?
Time for a new buzzword.. please?
How many hubs does this council have? Time for a new buzzword.. please? mack
  • Score: 7

8:16pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Seems the council should be privatised, then the York residents can sue their arse's , I feel real sorry for ALL council workers and employees that are run by MUPPETS and grously over paid, for little use Members of a Cabinet (lol what cabinet, dinning room one) Does seem like if they cant screw it up then privatize and waste all the coffers
Seems the council should be privatised, then the York residents can sue their arse's , I feel real sorry for ALL council workers and employees that are run by MUPPETS and grously over paid, for little use Members of a Cabinet (lol what cabinet, dinning room one) Does seem like if they cant screw it up then privatize and waste all the coffers Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 6

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