Government backs down over camera car ban

The Road Safety Camera Car outside Badger Hill school

The Road Safety Camera Car outside Badger Hill school

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TOP councillors in York have welcomed the news that Government plans to scrap its controversial camera car have been reined in.

Local Government secretary Eric Pickles last month announced plans to stop "over-zealous" councils using the CCTV vehicles to issue nine million parking fines a year.

Now he has abandoned the plans and has told the Commons that after a consultation, the Government had no objections to camera cars being used when it was impossible to have an enforcement officer patrolling the streets.

He said: "What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children. I think we have passed the test of protecting children."

"We consulted, we listened to the consultation and where it is not possible to have an enforcement officer present at the school then we have no objection at all for cameras to be used."

York's Cabinet Member for Education, Children and Young People, Cllr Janet Looker said:

“The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public.

"Restrictions are in place for a reason and I see nothing controversial in saying that it’s not ok to park illegally, even if Mr Pickles thinks it is, so I’m pleased his decision has been overturned”.

“Any enforcement should be open and proportionate and the current system delivers that”.

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11:27am Wed 2 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

here we go again bending rules to suit the situation. enforcing No Parking - TRY THE YELLOW LINE PARKERS.
here we go again bending rules to suit the situation. enforcing No Parking - TRY THE YELLOW LINE PARKERS. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 7

11:43am Wed 2 Jul 14

only human says...

STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again !
STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again ! only human
  • Score: 4

12:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Eric Pickles:
"What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children". "Where it is not possible to have an enforcement officer present at the school then we have no objection at all for cameras to be used."

York's Cabinet Member Janet Looker said:
“The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public. “Any enforcement should be open and proportionate and the current system delivers that”.

Seems to be a difference of opinion, Janet Looker business as usual (current system delivers that), Eric Pickles (What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children).

What we will see is another round of changing the current restriction to suit the revenue stream.
Eric Pickles: "What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children". "Where it is not possible to have an enforcement officer present at the school then we have no objection at all for cameras to be used." York's Cabinet Member Janet Looker said: “The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public. “Any enforcement should be open and proportionate and the current system delivers that”. Seems to be a difference of opinion, Janet Looker business as usual (current system delivers that), Eric Pickles (What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children). What we will see is another round of changing the current restriction to suit the revenue stream. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 15

12:02pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

I’ll give it a day or two before someone writes in having been charged no where near the school..

Also can this car please stop cutting people up on Blossom Street. It’s not really fair if we get charged for parking up when they are driving dangerously (seen it twice now!!!)

Also that well known congestion point near calverts carpets... I mean it’s always tail backed and dangerous around there. I’d challenge the council to do a risk assessment on parked cars in that area and explain why it is dangerous…

You are a lying, cheating ,robbing lot of @#'~ who make new rules to fool the naive into thinking its for the benefit of them but really its so you lesson the deficit on their budget without having to sacrifice the current privileges you have.....

Keep looking at the camera and you might catch a glimpse of me sticking two fingers up at it...

Safety for children! By reactive rather then proactive measures?? yeh that will stop a child getting hit more then a school safety scheme.. (oh wait they cost money and don’t make any......)

Role on next year... Ps I actually can not wait for the lendal bridge judgement to be made so you have to refund over 1m you robbed from people…
I’ll give it a day or two before someone writes in having been charged no where near the school.. Also can this car please stop cutting people up on Blossom Street. It’s not really fair if we get charged for parking up when they are driving dangerously (seen it twice now!!!) Also that well known congestion point near calverts carpets... I mean it’s always tail backed and dangerous around there. I’d challenge the council to do a risk assessment on parked cars in that area and explain why it is dangerous… You are a lying, cheating ,robbing lot of @#'~ who make new rules to fool the naive into thinking its for the benefit of them but really its so you lesson the deficit on their budget without having to sacrifice the current privileges you have..... Keep looking at the camera and you might catch a glimpse of me sticking two fingers up at it... Safety for children! By reactive rather then proactive measures?? yeh that will stop a child getting hit more then a school safety scheme.. (oh wait they cost money and don’t make any......) Role on next year... Ps I actually can not wait for the lendal bridge judgement to be made so you have to refund over 1m you robbed from people… Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 28

4:40pm Wed 2 Jul 14

A Nother Nonny Mouse says...

York's Cabinet Member Janet Looker said:
“The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public. “

mmmmm - ok - so it wasnt the camera car that I saw yesterday on Malton Road (within the 60 mph zone), parked up watching traffic come down. I wasnt aware there was a school anywhere near there, I also wasnt aware of any congestion at 12 midday anywhere near there, no parking on grass verges either (except for the camera car of course).

Site it by all means near schools but dont use it as an alternate form of revenue which you are so clearly doing.
York's Cabinet Member Janet Looker said: “The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public. “ mmmmm - ok - so it wasnt the camera car that I saw yesterday on Malton Road (within the 60 mph zone), parked up watching traffic come down. I wasnt aware there was a school anywhere near there, I also wasnt aware of any congestion at 12 midday anywhere near there, no parking on grass verges either (except for the camera car of course). Site it by all means near schools but dont use it as an alternate form of revenue which you are so clearly doing. A Nother Nonny Mouse
  • Score: 5

5:12pm Wed 2 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense. pedalling paul
  • Score: -20

5:13pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Caecilius says...

only human wrote:
STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again !
The motorist as victim, yet again. It's neither stealthy nor a tax. There are yellow lines painted on the road to make it crystal clear to the "poor old motorist" that they're not allowed to park there. If they choose to ignore them and break the law, it's nobody's fault but theirs if they end up being hit with the penalty. They were well aware of it beforehand.
[quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again ![/p][/quote]The motorist as victim, yet again. It's neither stealthy nor a tax. There are yellow lines painted on the road to make it crystal clear to the "poor old motorist" that they're not allowed to park there. If they choose to ignore them and break the law, it's nobody's fault but theirs if they end up being hit with the penalty. They were well aware of it beforehand. Caecilius
  • Score: 3

6:28pm Wed 2 Jul 14

non pedalling pete says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense. non pedalling pete
  • Score: 9

7:09pm Wed 2 Jul 14

eeoodares says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
Are you talking about Alexander, 'cos he's lost weight?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]Are you talking about Alexander, 'cos he's lost weight? eeoodares
  • Score: 6

8:52pm Wed 2 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

non pedalling pete wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......!
[quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense.[/p][/quote]Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......! pedalling paul
  • Score: -16

9:00pm Wed 2 Jul 14

Silver says...

pedalling paul wrote:
non pedalling pete wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......!
So you're telling us an enforcer officer with a bike can't ticket those cars?
That only a car can do the job that a man in a bike could do?
Paul aren't you on the wrong side of the debate?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense.[/p][/quote]Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......![/p][/quote]So you're telling us an enforcer officer with a bike can't ticket those cars? That only a car can do the job that a man in a bike could do? Paul aren't you on the wrong side of the debate? Silver
  • Score: 6

9:12pm Wed 2 Jul 14

councilwatch says...

I see cars parked outside St Lawrence Primary School all the time but no traffic car in sight - or is that because it is a Labour area?
I see cars parked outside St Lawrence Primary School all the time but no traffic car in sight - or is that because it is a Labour area? councilwatch
  • Score: 4

9:33pm Wed 2 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Might be useful for Parking Enforcement Officers to use follow the lead of the emergency services, by introducing the use of pedal power in the City centre. They would be able to quickly reach areas that are not readily accessible by van.
Might be useful for Parking Enforcement Officers to use follow the lead of the emergency services, by introducing the use of pedal power in the City centre. They would be able to quickly reach areas that are not readily accessible by van. pedalling paul
  • Score: -4

9:54pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jake777 says...

only human wrote:
STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again !
simple don't park on yellow lines
[quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again ![/p][/quote]simple don't park on yellow lines jake777
  • Score: 3

9:56pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jake777 says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Eric Pickles:
"What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children". "Where it is not possible to have an enforcement officer present at the school then we have no objection at all for cameras to be used."

York's Cabinet Member Janet Looker said:
“The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public. “Any enforcement should be open and proportionate and the current system delivers that”.

Seems to be a difference of opinion, Janet Looker business as usual (current system delivers that), Eric Pickles (What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children).

What we will see is another round of changing the current restriction to suit the revenue stream.
stop moaning , and get a life.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Eric Pickles: "What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children". "Where it is not possible to have an enforcement officer present at the school then we have no objection at all for cameras to be used." York's Cabinet Member Janet Looker said: “The camera car is about enforcing parking restrictions outside schools and in other areas where they are in place for congestion reduction and for the safety of the public. “Any enforcement should be open and proportionate and the current system delivers that”. Seems to be a difference of opinion, Janet Looker business as usual (current system delivers that), Eric Pickles (What we have done is stopped cameras going out patrolling the streets in order to make money rather than to protect children). What we will see is another round of changing the current restriction to suit the revenue stream.[/p][/quote]stop moaning , and get a life. jake777
  • Score: -5

9:58pm Wed 2 Jul 14

jake777 says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I’ll give it a day or two before someone writes in having been charged no where near the school..

Also can this car please stop cutting people up on Blossom Street. It’s not really fair if we get charged for parking up when they are driving dangerously (seen it twice now!!!)

Also that well known congestion point near calverts carpets... I mean it’s always tail backed and dangerous around there. I’d challenge the council to do a risk assessment on parked cars in that area and explain why it is dangerous…

You are a lying, cheating ,robbing lot of @#'~ who make new rules to fool the naive into thinking its for the benefit of them but really its so you lesson the deficit on their budget without having to sacrifice the current privileges you have.....

Keep looking at the camera and you might catch a glimpse of me sticking two fingers up at it...

Safety for children! By reactive rather then proactive measures?? yeh that will stop a child getting hit more then a school safety scheme.. (oh wait they cost money and don’t make any......)

Role on next year... Ps I actually can not wait for the lendal bridge judgement to be made so you have to refund over 1m you robbed from people…
Yawn Yawn Yawn, get a life.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I’ll give it a day or two before someone writes in having been charged no where near the school.. Also can this car please stop cutting people up on Blossom Street. It’s not really fair if we get charged for parking up when they are driving dangerously (seen it twice now!!!) Also that well known congestion point near calverts carpets... I mean it’s always tail backed and dangerous around there. I’d challenge the council to do a risk assessment on parked cars in that area and explain why it is dangerous… You are a lying, cheating ,robbing lot of @#'~ who make new rules to fool the naive into thinking its for the benefit of them but really its so you lesson the deficit on their budget without having to sacrifice the current privileges you have..... Keep looking at the camera and you might catch a glimpse of me sticking two fingers up at it... Safety for children! By reactive rather then proactive measures?? yeh that will stop a child getting hit more then a school safety scheme.. (oh wait they cost money and don’t make any......) Role on next year... Ps I actually can not wait for the lendal bridge judgement to be made so you have to refund over 1m you robbed from people…[/p][/quote]Yawn Yawn Yawn, get a life. jake777
  • Score: -6

1:52am Thu 3 Jul 14

RingoStarr says...

pedalling paul wrote:
non pedalling pete wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......!
THIS COMMENT SUMS YOU UP.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense.[/p][/quote]Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......![/p][/quote]THIS COMMENT SUMS YOU UP. RingoStarr
  • Score: 10

2:59am Thu 3 Jul 14

Magicman! says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I’ll give it a day or two before someone writes in having been charged no where near the school..

Also can this car please stop cutting people up on Blossom Street. It’s not really fair if we get charged for parking up when they are driving dangerously (seen it twice now!!!)

Also that well known congestion point near calverts carpets... I mean it’s always tail backed and dangerous around there. I’d challenge the council to do a risk assessment on parked cars in that area and explain why it is dangerous…

You are a lying, cheating ,robbing lot of @#'~ who make new rules to fool the naive into thinking its for the benefit of them but really its so you lesson the deficit on their budget without having to sacrifice the current privileges you have.....

Keep looking at the camera and you might catch a glimpse of me sticking two fingers up at it...

Safety for children! By reactive rather then proactive measures?? yeh that will stop a child getting hit more then a school safety scheme.. (oh wait they cost money and don’t make any......)

Role on next year... Ps I actually can not wait for the lendal bridge judgement to be made so you have to refund over 1m you robbed from people…
"that well known congestion point near calverts carpets" does get used by certain buses to turn around. Two or three afternoon journeys on the 21 turn around there... also if a bus is used as a staff shuttle for Transdev it will sometimes turn around there. Up until a few weeks ago, a Coastliner service went around there every half hour.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I’ll give it a day or two before someone writes in having been charged no where near the school.. Also can this car please stop cutting people up on Blossom Street. It’s not really fair if we get charged for parking up when they are driving dangerously (seen it twice now!!!) Also that well known congestion point near calverts carpets... I mean it’s always tail backed and dangerous around there. I’d challenge the council to do a risk assessment on parked cars in that area and explain why it is dangerous… You are a lying, cheating ,robbing lot of @#'~ who make new rules to fool the naive into thinking its for the benefit of them but really its so you lesson the deficit on their budget without having to sacrifice the current privileges you have..... Keep looking at the camera and you might catch a glimpse of me sticking two fingers up at it... Safety for children! By reactive rather then proactive measures?? yeh that will stop a child getting hit more then a school safety scheme.. (oh wait they cost money and don’t make any......) Role on next year... Ps I actually can not wait for the lendal bridge judgement to be made so you have to refund over 1m you robbed from people…[/p][/quote]"that well known congestion point near calverts carpets" does get used by certain buses to turn around. Two or three afternoon journeys on the 21 turn around there... also if a bus is used as a staff shuttle for Transdev it will sometimes turn around there. Up until a few weeks ago, a Coastliner service went around there every half hour. Magicman!
  • Score: 0

9:41am Thu 3 Jul 14

again says...

only human wrote:
STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again !
I have no objection whatever to you reducing my council tax bill through your voluntary contributions.

As they say, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime.
[quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: STEALTH TAX the poor old motorist again ![/p][/quote]I have no objection whatever to you reducing my council tax bill through your voluntary contributions. As they say, if you can't do the time, don't do the crime. again
  • Score: -2

1:09pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Ichabod76 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
non pedalling pete wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......!
Paul I hope your house is burgled then burns down, just because
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense.[/p][/quote]Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......![/p][/quote]Paul I hope your house is burgled then burns down, just because Ichabod76
  • Score: 5

5:48pm Thu 3 Jul 14

non pedalling pete says...

pedalling paul wrote:
non pedalling pete wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......!
I will resist the extreme temptation to wish you all sorts of bodily harm whilst riding your bike. I will just say what a sick sad bitter twisted evil bar steward you are
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense.[/p][/quote]Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......![/p][/quote]I will resist the extreme temptation to wish you all sorts of bodily harm whilst riding your bike. I will just say what a sick sad bitter twisted evil bar steward you are non pedalling pete
  • Score: 2

10:15pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Silver says...

Silver wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
non pedalling pete wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.
No chance of you ever seeing common sense.
Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......!
So you're telling us an enforcer officer with a bike can't ticket those cars?
That only a car can do the job that a man in a bike could do?
Paul aren't you on the wrong side of the debate?
PP said Might be useful for Parking Enforcement Officers to use follow the lead of the emergency services, by introducing the use of pedal power in the City centre. They would be able to quickly reach areas that are not readily accessible by van.
Me replies Well PP wasn't that point that the government actually got from a court of law? That basically if a enforcement officer could do the job then the councils using the spy cars didn't have a leg to stand on?
I notice you didn't reply to my question but instead posted a post pretty much agreeing. As a troll you fail the test of going for the nibble I provided you and you're officially a hypocrite as you originally in the post above argued for a car against your chosen love child.
[quote][p][bold]Silver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Jabba the Hutt has finally been made to seee common sense.[/p][/quote]No chance of you ever seeing common sense.[/p][/quote]Hope your house burns down one day, because illegally parked cars are obstructing a fire engine.......![/p][/quote]So you're telling us an enforcer officer with a bike can't ticket those cars? That only a car can do the job that a man in a bike could do? Paul aren't you on the wrong side of the debate?[/p][/quote]PP said Might be useful for Parking Enforcement Officers to use follow the lead of the emergency services, by introducing the use of pedal power in the City centre. They would be able to quickly reach areas that are not readily accessible by van. Me replies Well PP wasn't that point that the government actually got from a court of law? That basically if a enforcement officer could do the job then the councils using the spy cars didn't have a leg to stand on? I notice you didn't reply to my question but instead posted a post pretty much agreeing. As a troll you fail the test of going for the nibble I provided you and you're officially a hypocrite as you originally in the post above argued for a car against your chosen love child. Silver
  • Score: 0

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