Speed cushions removed from outside York school amid fears for TdF cyclists

A car slows to cross a ramp in Campleshon Road where speed bumps have been removed.

A car slows to cross a ramp in Campleshon Road where speed bumps have been removed.

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SPEED cushions outside a York primary school have been removed - amid fears they could be dangerous for cyclists in next month's Tour De France.

The cushions are part of a package of measures in Campleshon Road intended to improve safety for children at Knavesmire Primary School.

But City of York Council says they are very worn and damaged and are being replaced with new cushions, with the work deliberately timed to take place as York prepares to host the Grand Depart of the Tour de France next month.

Tony Clarke, the authority's head of transport, said: "We have timed these works to coincide with the Tour de France, under the advice that speed cushions can be dangerous for peloton races because they’re an inconsistent road surface. This is a standard policy and is not unique to York.”

He said the safety of pupils was paramount and other road safety measures outside the school included a speed table and a 20mph zone, which all helped to reduce speed, and he added that it was the parent or guardian’s duty to ensure their children got to and from school safely.

But with the Tour de France still almost a month away, pupils' parents and grandparents were critical of the length of time the road will be left without any cushions.

Gary Wrigglesworth, whose son Oliver attends the school, said the cycle race seemed to be regarded as more important than children's safety.

"Four weeks is a long time," he said. "The council insists these cushions are needed outside schools but then remove them when it suits them," he claimed.

Grandparents Susie and Michael Deacon, whose grandchild is a pupil, said they too were concerned about the loss of the cushions for several weeks. "The cars already come far too fast along here," said Mrs Deacon.

"They don't obey the speed limit."

Rebecca Timney, whose seven-year-old son Malakai is a pupil, was also unhappy at the loss of the cushions.

Headteacher Adam Cooper was unavailable for comment.

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10:32am Wed 11 Jun 14

retrorigg says...

what a load of sh**, theres nothing wrong with the speed humps on this road, they arent any worse than anywhere else in york, they dont need replacing its just bull to give the cyclists a smooth road and sod the childrens safety
what a load of sh**, theres nothing wrong with the speed humps on this road, they arent any worse than anywhere else in york, they dont need replacing its just bull to give the cyclists a smooth road and sod the childrens safety retrorigg
  • Score: -12

10:37am Wed 11 Jun 14

notmyrealname says...

Where is all the money coming from for all this preparation work for a group of cyclists who will pass that point in a few seconds.? Surely the Peleton is not even out of first gear by then and will not be racing until out of town.
Prepare for a few years of lack of repairs to anything in York when the budget gets used up
Where is all the money coming from for all this preparation work for a group of cyclists who will pass that point in a few seconds.? Surely the Peleton is not even out of first gear by then and will not be racing until out of town. Prepare for a few years of lack of repairs to anything in York when the budget gets used up notmyrealname
  • Score: -11

10:51am Wed 11 Jun 14

YorkPatrol says...

What on earth are speed "cushions"?

How many think tanks and brain storming exercises did it take for them to come up with that naming convention?
What on earth are speed "cushions"? How many think tanks and brain storming exercises did it take for them to come up with that naming convention? YorkPatrol
  • Score: -21

11:09am Wed 11 Jun 14

nearlyman says...

So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.
So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council. nearlyman
  • Score: -21

11:16am Wed 11 Jun 14

Silver says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
What on earth are speed "cushions"?

How many think tanks and brain storming exercises did it take for them to come up with that naming convention?
WTF is a Speed Table?
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: What on earth are speed "cushions"? How many think tanks and brain storming exercises did it take for them to come up with that naming convention?[/p][/quote]WTF is a Speed Table? Silver
  • Score: -18

11:17am Wed 11 Jun 14

BL2 says...

Speed humps cause far more problems than they solve - dig up the lot of them!
Speed humps cause far more problems than they solve - dig up the lot of them! BL2
  • Score: -10

11:19am Wed 11 Jun 14

Happytoliveinyork says...

Hope the cyclists don't go over 20 mph
Hope the cyclists don't go over 20 mph Happytoliveinyork
  • Score: -4

11:22am Wed 11 Jun 14

Dave Ruddock says...

I Think York Council , (Lords on the Manor) get a grip of their senses, is the Tour de France going to re define York for the sake of a 1 day City Event.
They cant get a (Hub) activity center sorted , Camping Caravan site is disarray,ridicules road, street works, yellow (properly stolen pushbikes ) all over the place (thats OUR monies) and now speeed bumps (or what ever the new term is)

Oh is TONT CLARKE a mate of MERRET the Ferret, seems so. TOR de **** UP ......
I Think York Council , (Lords on the Manor) get a grip of their senses, is the Tour de France going to re define York for the sake of a 1 day City Event. They cant get a (Hub) activity center sorted , Camping Caravan site is disarray,ridicules road, street works, yellow (properly stolen pushbikes ) all over the place (thats OUR monies) and now speeed bumps (or what ever the new term is) Oh is TONT CLARKE a mate of MERRET the Ferret, seems so. TOR de **** UP ...... Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -19

11:57am Wed 11 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

The usual suspects have got out of bed at last...........

Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement.

Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install.

Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by. pedalling paul
  • Score: 44

12:11pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Shouter says...

pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last...........

Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement.

Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install.

Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
Thank you for your pearls of wisdom, Patronising Paul.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]Thank you for your pearls of wisdom, Patronising Paul. Shouter
  • Score: -62

12:23pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Mullarkian says...

Schools are only open 39 weeks of the year between the hours of 8:30am to 4:00pm, Of this time the first & last half hours are when children arrive and leave, yet these so called safety devices are there 24/7, all year.
We managed for years without them and pedestrians weren't being mown down in droves.
The most dangerous aspect at school arrival & leaving times is the number of vehicles that transport the little darlings.
'Speed Humps' just damage vehicles, & cause problems for the emergrency services, particularly ambulances if someone is seriously injured or ill.
Schools are only open 39 weeks of the year between the hours of 8:30am to 4:00pm, Of this time the first & last half hours are when children arrive and leave, yet these so called safety devices are there 24/7, all year. We managed for years without them and pedestrians weren't being mown down in droves. The most dangerous aspect at school arrival & leaving times is the number of vehicles that transport the little darlings. 'Speed Humps' just damage vehicles, & cause problems for the emergrency services, particularly ambulances if someone is seriously injured or ill. Mullarkian
  • Score: -59

12:44pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Yorkarchermum says...

My two kids go to this school and apart from parking on the other side of the road, there isn't really a need for pupils to cross this road. In which case there would be a grown up to help the pupil cross the road. I'm sure when the housing development opposite the school is finished they will re-think the road safety and put in some sort of crossing.
My two kids go to this school and apart from parking on the other side of the road, there isn't really a need for pupils to cross this road. In which case there would be a grown up to help the pupil cross the road. I'm sure when the housing development opposite the school is finished they will re-think the road safety and put in some sort of crossing. Yorkarchermum
  • Score: -86

1:29pm Wed 11 Jun 14

nearlyman says...

Yorkarchermum wrote:
My two kids go to this school and apart from parking on the other side of the road, there isn't really a need for pupils to cross this road. In which case there would be a grown up to help the pupil cross the road. I'm sure when the housing development opposite the school is finished they will re-think the road safety and put in some sort of crossing.
....and no doubt a succession of traffic lights, painted roads, unsightly road signs and confusingly altered junctions. All that vital work !!
[quote][p][bold]Yorkarchermum[/bold] wrote: My two kids go to this school and apart from parking on the other side of the road, there isn't really a need for pupils to cross this road. In which case there would be a grown up to help the pupil cross the road. I'm sure when the housing development opposite the school is finished they will re-think the road safety and put in some sort of crossing.[/p][/quote]....and no doubt a succession of traffic lights, painted roads, unsightly road signs and confusingly altered junctions. All that vital work !! nearlyman
  • Score: -123

1:35pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Yorkarchermum says...

nearlyman wrote:
Yorkarchermum wrote:
My two kids go to this school and apart from parking on the other side of the road, there isn't really a need for pupils to cross this road. In which case there would be a grown up to help the pupil cross the road. I'm sure when the housing development opposite the school is finished they will re-think the road safety and put in some sort of crossing.
....and no doubt a succession of traffic lights, painted roads, unsightly road signs and confusingly altered junctions. All that vital work !!
I think they are building 200 homes opposite so they will have to revisit the safety measures of this road then and yes they probably will put some sort of pedestrian crossing up.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkarchermum[/bold] wrote: My two kids go to this school and apart from parking on the other side of the road, there isn't really a need for pupils to cross this road. In which case there would be a grown up to help the pupil cross the road. I'm sure when the housing development opposite the school is finished they will re-think the road safety and put in some sort of crossing.[/p][/quote]....and no doubt a succession of traffic lights, painted roads, unsightly road signs and confusingly altered junctions. All that vital work !![/p][/quote]I think they are building 200 homes opposite so they will have to revisit the safety measures of this road then and yes they probably will put some sort of pedestrian crossing up. Yorkarchermum
  • Score: -83

1:55pm Wed 11 Jun 14

OLD - HEAD says...

Speed bumps are put there to protect children? - And I always thought that they were put there to keep Kwik Fit in business. The only good thing about the Tour de France is that areas of our city, which are on the cyclists route, will have a decent road surface. Once the cyclists have passed through, then its back to speed-bumps and pot-holes for us residents.
Speed bumps are put there to protect children? - And I always thought that they were put there to keep Kwik Fit in business. The only good thing about the Tour de France is that areas of our city, which are on the cyclists route, will have a decent road surface. Once the cyclists have passed through, then its back to speed-bumps and pot-holes for us residents. OLD - HEAD
  • Score: -94

2:06pm Wed 11 Jun 14

yorkshirelad says...

This will be interesting to watch... what shall we do.? Whine about humps or whibge about the cyclists. Lets see how many people can have a little moan about both.

PS: Another loaded headline designed to be inflammatory. It's quite common in large scale cycle races for some 'road furniture' to be temporarily removed and then reinstalled.
This will be interesting to watch... what shall we do.? Whine about humps or whibge about the cyclists. Lets see how many people can have a little moan about both. PS: Another loaded headline designed to be inflammatory. It's quite common in large scale cycle races for some 'road furniture' to be temporarily removed and then reinstalled. yorkshirelad
  • Score: -105

2:07pm Wed 11 Jun 14

YorkPatrol says...

pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
CUSHION;

noun
1. a soft bag of cloth, leather, or rubber, filled with feathers, air, foam rubber, etc., on which to sit, kneel, or lie.

TABLE;

noun
1. an article of furniture consisting of a flat, slablike top supported on one or more legs or other supports: a kitchen table; an operating table; a pool table.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]CUSHION; noun 1. a soft bag of cloth, leather, or rubber, filled with feathers, air, foam rubber, etc., on which to sit, kneel, or lie. TABLE; noun 1. an article of furniture consisting of a flat, slablike top supported on one or more legs or other supports: a kitchen table; an operating table; a pool table. YorkPatrol
  • Score: -64

2:33pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Halifaxbomber says...

retrorigg wrote:
what a load of sh**, theres nothing wrong with the speed humps on this road, they arent any worse than anywhere else in york, they dont need replacing its just bull to give the cyclists a smooth road and sod the childrens safety
Last I saw all the speed cushions in Campleshon were in a really bad state and very much in need of replacing
[quote][p][bold]retrorigg[/bold] wrote: what a load of sh**, theres nothing wrong with the speed humps on this road, they arent any worse than anywhere else in york, they dont need replacing its just bull to give the cyclists a smooth road and sod the childrens safety[/p][/quote]Last I saw all the speed cushions in Campleshon were in a really bad state and very much in need of replacing Halifaxbomber
  • Score: -72

3:14pm Wed 11 Jun 14

retrorigg says...

There no worse than anywere else in York , theres no denying there been removed to allow for the tdf. If not why ain't they been taken out and been replaced straight away. If the tdf hadn't been coming ya can garuntee the cushions/bumps/table
s wouldn't have been touched for yrs
There no worse than anywere else in York , theres no denying there been removed to allow for the tdf. If not why ain't they been taken out and been replaced straight away. If the tdf hadn't been coming ya can garuntee the cushions/bumps/table s wouldn't have been touched for yrs retrorigg
  • Score: -106

3:24pm Wed 11 Jun 14

strangebuttrue? says...

pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last...........

Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement.

Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install.

Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars? strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -34

4:11pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Pinza-C55 says...

It would be interesting to see what would happen if a schoolkid had an accident with a car where the car was speeding while the humps were removed?
They'd have to close Lendal Bridge again to raise the money for the fine.
It would be interesting to see what would happen if a schoolkid had an accident with a car where the car was speeding while the humps were removed? They'd have to close Lendal Bridge again to raise the money for the fine. Pinza-C55
  • Score: -5

4:28pm Wed 11 Jun 14

MarkyMarkMark says...

I've always thought the speed humps/cushions/table
s/sideboards there were a bit on the vicious side anyway, even in a decent sized car. Maybe "they" will replace them with something more appropriately sized?

PS York Patrol - So that's almost exactly what a speed table is. A lump of tarmac stuff shaped in a slab-like top, supported on a single leg the size of the top.....
I've always thought the speed humps/cushions/table s/sideboards there were a bit on the vicious side anyway, even in a decent sized car. Maybe "they" will replace them with something more appropriately sized? PS York Patrol - So that's almost exactly what a speed table is. A lump of tarmac stuff shaped in a slab-like top, supported on a single leg the size of the top..... MarkyMarkMark
  • Score: -22

4:43pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Dr Brian says...

Another example of council wasting money. If these speed restriction humps tables cushions or whatever were being replaced because they were life expired surely it would be cheaper to remove the old ones and install the new ones. All equiment and men are there.

But no we all know that the council is lying, they are being removed for the TdF. If somebody gets killed I wonder if Kirsten England will be poncing around proud that this race is being brought to York causing havoc for its residents.

Well of course she wont she will take her big pay packet and attend another non meeting
Another example of council wasting money. If these speed restriction humps tables cushions or whatever were being replaced because they were life expired surely it would be cheaper to remove the old ones and install the new ones. All equiment and men are there. But no we all know that the council is lying, they are being removed for the TdF. If somebody gets killed I wonder if Kirsten England will be poncing around proud that this race is being brought to York causing havoc for its residents. Well of course she wont she will take her big pay packet and attend another non meeting Dr Brian
  • Score: -29

5:18pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Caecilius says...

nearlyman wrote:
So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.
The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.[/p][/quote]The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place. Caecilius
  • Score: -18

5:48pm Wed 11 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Caecilius wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.
The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.
What a load of tripe, where are your facts that backs up your stupid comment, you are just an anti car Luddite!, glad I will be out of the country when this fiasco takes place!
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.[/p][/quote]The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.[/p][/quote]What a load of tripe, where are your facts that backs up your stupid comment, you are just an anti car Luddite!, glad I will be out of the country when this fiasco takes place! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 0

5:54pm Wed 11 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last...........

Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement.

Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install.

Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?
Well I've travelled over them by car at the recommended 20 mph and yes they are rather more unforgiving than tarmac ones. But the PP Rolls has survived......
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?[/p][/quote]Well I've travelled over them by car at the recommended 20 mph and yes they are rather more unforgiving than tarmac ones. But the PP Rolls has survived...... pedalling paul
  • Score: 11

6:13pm Wed 11 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

pedalling paul wrote:
strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last...........

Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement.

Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install.

Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?
Well I've travelled over them by car at the recommended 20 mph and yes they are rather more unforgiving than tarmac ones. But the PP Rolls has survived......
Yes they were renowned for their blancmange suspension.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?[/p][/quote]Well I've travelled over them by car at the recommended 20 mph and yes they are rather more unforgiving than tarmac ones. But the PP Rolls has survived......[/p][/quote]Yes they were renowned for their blancmange suspension. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -37

6:19pm Wed 11 Jun 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Caecilius wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.
The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.
Which one do you want....?.

Locals claiming unscientifically that motorists are speeding, so just guessing really, you can't enforce a law based on guessing.

If motorists are speeding then the traffic calming measures are pointless and a waste of money, non-effective, other solutions needed.

Either prove that motorists are speeding with the traffic calming measures in place which also proves that the measures are pointless or accept that hear say is not a basis of fact and traffic calming is effective.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.[/p][/quote]The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.[/p][/quote]Which one do you want....?. Locals claiming unscientifically that motorists are speeding, so just guessing really, you can't enforce a law based on guessing. If motorists are speeding then the traffic calming measures are pointless and a waste of money, non-effective, other solutions needed. Either prove that motorists are speeding with the traffic calming measures in place which also proves that the measures are pointless or accept that hear say is not a basis of fact and traffic calming is effective. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -35

6:43pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Put them back! I love flying over those speed bumps on my bike, and in my Land Rover.

Comment on that then all you bike and car haters. HA!
Put them back! I love flying over those speed bumps on my bike, and in my Land Rover. Comment on that then all you bike and car haters. HA! Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -57

6:52pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

The Tour De France team chose this road because they need the others in the Racecourse area for organisers etc. The cycling event is so important that this work is done earlier than school/parents wish, but it looks a safety/insurance decision; to do early in case of damage to services and jeopardise the event!

Tour De France have the budget not City of York Council. In reality we will never get the full analysis of costs.

Humps and tables will be re-instated after the newly laid road has been re-surfaced. Info to me via clerk of works officer of City of York council; the quickest reply to me yet. Chicanes are not a viable option in this street.

Some of the humps were slightly inferior following the recent building work at my first school which needed heavy delivery vehicles.

The headmaster/parents could request the camera car to concentrate on Campleshon Rd until August when I expect all will be re-instated! York Race meetings will determine dates/times works. They could also ask for camera enforcement signs as a deterrent.

Three timetabled buses, Saturday car booters ,myself, and the City Tour Bus use Campleshon Rd so it is essential that all works are well managed!

The new buildings and associated heavy vehicles at Bustardthorpe/Terry'
s former factory should be interesting.
The Tour De France team chose this road because they need the others in the Racecourse area for organisers etc. The cycling event is so important that this work is done earlier than school/parents wish, but it looks a safety/insurance decision; to do early in case of damage to services and jeopardise the event! Tour De France have the budget not City of York Council. In reality we will never get the full analysis of costs. Humps and tables will be re-instated after the newly laid road has been re-surfaced. Info to me via clerk of works officer of City of York council; the quickest reply to me yet. Chicanes are not a viable option in this street. Some of the humps were slightly inferior following the recent building work at my first school which needed heavy delivery vehicles. The headmaster/parents could request the camera car to concentrate on Campleshon Rd until August when I expect all will be re-instated! York Race meetings will determine dates/times works. They could also ask for camera enforcement signs as a deterrent. Three timetabled buses, Saturday car booters ,myself, and the City Tour Bus use Campleshon Rd so it is essential that all works are well managed! The new buildings and associated heavy vehicles at Bustardthorpe/Terry' s former factory should be interesting. Cheeky face
  • Score: 25

8:11pm Wed 11 Jun 14

SB Dubs says...

The Press article doesnt make it clear that the speed table is still in place, they have only removed the pads. You still have to slow down over it, otherwise you bottom out. I live on this road, it gets parked up every day with cars parking both sides, even with the newly painted yellow lines put down. Maybe the answer is for parents to walk their kids to school like the good old days, the trouble is many dont live in South Bank hence why they had to make the school bigger and spoil it. They come from all over now, then south bank residents couldn't get their kids in. It would help the environment too if they walked, but the majority come from out of the area so its easier to shove them in the car to get them to school.
The Press article doesnt make it clear that the speed table is still in place, they have only removed the pads. You still have to slow down over it, otherwise you bottom out. I live on this road, it gets parked up every day with cars parking both sides, even with the newly painted yellow lines put down. Maybe the answer is for parents to walk their kids to school like the good old days, the trouble is many dont live in South Bank hence why they had to make the school bigger and spoil it. They come from all over now, then south bank residents couldn't get their kids in. It would help the environment too if they walked, but the majority come from out of the area so its easier to shove them in the car to get them to school. SB Dubs
  • Score: 1

9:10pm Wed 11 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

SB Dubs wrote:
The Press article doesnt make it clear that the speed table is still in place, they have only removed the pads. You still have to slow down over it, otherwise you bottom out. I live on this road, it gets parked up every day with cars parking both sides, even with the newly painted yellow lines put down. Maybe the answer is for parents to walk their kids to school like the good old days, the trouble is many dont live in South Bank hence why they had to make the school bigger and spoil it. They come from all over now, then south bank residents couldn't get their kids in. It would help the environment too if they walked, but the majority come from out of the area so its easier to shove them in the car to get them to school.
Might be a good idea to get the Camera van down there pronto! As for the tour buses, they seem to have reverted to the Nunnery Lane route for the summer, if the maps in the bus stop notice cases are to be believed.
[quote][p][bold]SB Dubs[/bold] wrote: The Press article doesnt make it clear that the speed table is still in place, they have only removed the pads. You still have to slow down over it, otherwise you bottom out. I live on this road, it gets parked up every day with cars parking both sides, even with the newly painted yellow lines put down. Maybe the answer is for parents to walk their kids to school like the good old days, the trouble is many dont live in South Bank hence why they had to make the school bigger and spoil it. They come from all over now, then south bank residents couldn't get their kids in. It would help the environment too if they walked, but the majority come from out of the area so its easier to shove them in the car to get them to school.[/p][/quote]Might be a good idea to get the Camera van down there pronto! As for the tour buses, they seem to have reverted to the Nunnery Lane route for the summer, if the maps in the bus stop notice cases are to be believed. pedalling paul
  • Score: 50

10:50pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Dave Ruddock says...

are the council misting all york people that due to Nicked Yellow painted bikes all over the place is Beautifing the city for a one day event is over reaction and the councilor talking absolutely rubbish as per normal. to be speed TABLES are not a deterrent, just excuses. Come on Council and never never land WAKE UP
are the council misting all york people that due to Nicked Yellow painted bikes all over the place is Beautifing the city for a one day event is over reaction and the councilor talking absolutely rubbish as per normal. to be speed TABLES are not a deterrent, just excuses. Come on Council and never never land WAKE UP Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -73

11:46pm Wed 11 Jun 14

Silver says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
CUSHION;

noun
1. a soft bag of cloth, leather, or rubber, filled with feathers, air, foam rubber, etc., on which to sit, kneel, or lie.

TABLE;

noun
1. an article of furniture consisting of a flat, slablike top supported on one or more legs or other supports: a kitchen table; an operating table; a pool table.
Dear York Patrol I'd like to thank you for this post As the concept of a Speed table is a stupid set of words that the creator behind the terms doesn't even understand english
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]CUSHION; noun 1. a soft bag of cloth, leather, or rubber, filled with feathers, air, foam rubber, etc., on which to sit, kneel, or lie. TABLE; noun 1. an article of furniture consisting of a flat, slablike top supported on one or more legs or other supports: a kitchen table; an operating table; a pool table.[/p][/quote]Dear York Patrol I'd like to thank you for this post As the concept of a Speed table is a stupid set of words that the creator behind the terms doesn't even understand english Silver
  • Score: -13

1:21am Thu 12 Jun 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

I see the Council's score adjuster has been busy.
I see the Council's score adjuster has been busy. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -15

2:11am Thu 12 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

Mullarkian wrote:
Schools are only open 39 weeks of the year between the hours of 8:30am to 4:00pm, Of this time the first & last half hours are when children arrive and leave, yet these so called safety devices are there 24/7, all year.
We managed for years without them and pedestrians weren't being mown down in droves.
The most dangerous aspect at school arrival & leaving times is the number of vehicles that transport the little darlings.
'Speed Humps' just damage vehicles, & cause problems for the emergrency services, particularly ambulances if someone is seriously injured or ill.
Exactly. I would rather see chicanes (with cycle bypass lanes) outside schools in order to reduce speeds. Less damage to vehicles, less noise, and less vibrations to adjacent buildings.

But here's a thought, the speed humps have bene removed before a large group of cyclists use the road, because the humps are "an inconsistent road surface"... and yet on everyday journeys, myself and other cyclists have to endure lumbering over these hulks of tarmac (some of which are technically illegal because they're too high or the lead-in angle is too steep) - and yet we don't get them removed because it's "an inconsistent road surface". And also, what about the people who live with a hump right outside their house - of which the house gets shaken everytime a speeding car (because humps don't reduce the speed of a certain class of driver) or a laden lorry goes over it; such as those down Yearsley Grove every night for 2-3 weeks of each month when a certain Royal Mail driver goes along there at 3am as a shortcut with a fully-loaded lorry (I have been going past the end of that road before now and heard that lorry when it's been right at the other end of the road, very loud banging noises as it goes over every speed hump)
[quote][p][bold]Mullarkian[/bold] wrote: Schools are only open 39 weeks of the year between the hours of 8:30am to 4:00pm, Of this time the first & last half hours are when children arrive and leave, yet these so called safety devices are there 24/7, all year. We managed for years without them and pedestrians weren't being mown down in droves. The most dangerous aspect at school arrival & leaving times is the number of vehicles that transport the little darlings. 'Speed Humps' just damage vehicles, & cause problems for the emergrency services, particularly ambulances if someone is seriously injured or ill.[/p][/quote]Exactly. I would rather see chicanes (with cycle bypass lanes) outside schools in order to reduce speeds. Less damage to vehicles, less noise, and less vibrations to adjacent buildings. But here's a thought, the speed humps have bene removed before a large group of cyclists use the road, because the humps are "an inconsistent road surface"... and yet on everyday journeys, myself and other cyclists have to endure lumbering over these hulks of tarmac (some of which are technically illegal because they're too high or the lead-in angle is too steep) - and yet we don't get them removed because it's "an inconsistent road surface". And also, what about the people who live with a hump right outside their house - of which the house gets shaken everytime a speeding car (because humps don't reduce the speed of a certain class of driver) or a laden lorry goes over it; such as those down Yearsley Grove every night for 2-3 weeks of each month when a certain Royal Mail driver goes along there at 3am as a shortcut with a fully-loaded lorry (I have been going past the end of that road before now and heard that lorry when it's been right at the other end of the road, very loud banging noises as it goes over every speed hump) Magicman!
  • Score: 63

2:14am Thu 12 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
The usual suspects have got out of bed at last...........

Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement.

Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install.

Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.
And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?
Don't be too worried about cars... this is the labour-controlled council - they'll just repeat whet they did at New Earswick and put the preformed speed humps halfway into the cycle lane, whilst at the same time trying to see how many people they can fool by saying the installation of the humps makes the road safer for cyclists
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: The usual suspects have got out of bed at last........... Speed tables are full carriageway width "humps" that are now commonplace across the City where safety speed reductions need some physical enforcement. Speed cushions that can be straddled by buses and emergency vehicle,s can be bought in as "preformed" and very quickly installed. Speed tables are of tarmac construction so inevitable take longer to install. Mind you, think back to the Royal visit of the 1970's, when all the centre islands vanished suddenly from along Blossom St, on the route of the Queen's carriage procession. It didn't take very long to reinstate those after she passed by.[/p][/quote]And no doubt Paul you would suggest the preformed speed cushions are installed as they are far more severe and damaging to cars?[/p][/quote]Don't be too worried about cars... this is the labour-controlled council - they'll just repeat whet they did at New Earswick and put the preformed speed humps halfway into the cycle lane, whilst at the same time trying to see how many people they can fool by saying the installation of the humps makes the road safer for cyclists Magicman!
  • Score: 1

2:16am Thu 12 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
Caecilius wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.
The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.
What a load of tripe, where are your facts that backs up your stupid comment, you are just an anti car Luddite!, glad I will be out of the country when this fiasco takes place!
Ooh, maybe we can contact your travel agent, so the vehicle for your return journey is left over here instead!
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.[/p][/quote]The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.[/p][/quote]What a load of tripe, where are your facts that backs up your stupid comment, you are just an anti car Luddite!, glad I will be out of the country when this fiasco takes place![/p][/quote]Ooh, maybe we can contact your travel agent, so the vehicle for your return journey is left over here instead! Magicman!
  • Score: -2

6:50am Thu 12 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Magicman! wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
Caecilius wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.
The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.
What a load of tripe, where are your facts that backs up your stupid comment, you are just an anti car Luddite!, glad I will be out of the country when this fiasco takes place!
Ooh, maybe we can contact your travel agent, so the vehicle for your return journey is left over here instead!
No travel agent Magicman!, don't use them, take the car and tour around, stopping where and when we want, as pp keeps harping on about the freedom of the roads, we've found it in France, for a couple of weeks at least!
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: So, its bu**er the locals, we can do anything for the 1 day wonders. Thanks again City of York council.[/p][/quote]The "bu**er the locals" attitude is in fact being displayed by the motorists who, as locals testify, don't obey the speed limit. If they didn't consider themselves above the law, traffic calming measures wouldn't be needed in the first place.[/p][/quote]What a load of tripe, where are your facts that backs up your stupid comment, you are just an anti car Luddite!, glad I will be out of the country when this fiasco takes place![/p][/quote]Ooh, maybe we can contact your travel agent, so the vehicle for your return journey is left over here instead![/p][/quote]No travel agent Magicman!, don't use them, take the car and tour around, stopping where and when we want, as pp keeps harping on about the freedom of the roads, we've found it in France, for a couple of weeks at least! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -20

8:07am Thu 12 Jun 14

Woody G Mellor says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
I see the Council's score adjuster has been busy.
I just post these days to get a reaction from the idiot., even if I'm agreeing with the council. Never fails!
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: I see the Council's score adjuster has been busy.[/p][/quote]I just post these days to get a reaction from the idiot., even if I'm agreeing with the council. Never fails! Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -67

8:40am Thu 12 Jun 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

what i dont get is after driving down there last night there is still a "cushion" along there?? What good is it removing 1?
what i dont get is after driving down there last night there is still a "cushion" along there?? What good is it removing 1? Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -21

8:50am Thu 12 Jun 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Ting a ling...

Woof woof! Drooool
Ting a ling... Woof woof! Drooool Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 22

9:44am Thu 12 Jun 14

TheTruthHurts says...

Although I am a keen cyclist I'm not really interested in it as a sport (cept olympics and such) But my interest in the tour has really tailed off since Bradley Wiggins got dropped. Was only really going down to Cheer on him and Mark Cavendish.
Although I am a keen cyclist I'm not really interested in it as a sport (cept olympics and such) But my interest in the tour has really tailed off since Bradley Wiggins got dropped. Was only really going down to Cheer on him and Mark Cavendish. TheTruthHurts
  • Score: -43

12:23pm Thu 12 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Magicman!

Part of a comment you made ..............And also, what about the people who live with a hump right outside their house - of which the house gets shaken everytime a speeding car (because humps don't reduce the speed of a certain class of driver).............
.....we have table speed humps in our street, and as a driver myself I have to agree with that point, you can hear a loud scraping noise as the front or rear bodywork hit as the car goes over the speed hump and comes down the other side.
I have more respect for my vehicle and go over each type of speed reducing device at a reduced speed - lower than the 20mph recomendation - much to the annoyance of large vehicle and bus drivers as their track width is greater than the cushion type of speed reducing device.
Magicman! Part of a comment you made ..............And also, what about the people who live with a hump right outside their house - of which the house gets shaken everytime a speeding car (because humps don't reduce the speed of a certain class of driver)............. .....we have table speed humps in our street, and as a driver myself I have to agree with that point, you can hear a loud scraping noise as the front or rear bodywork hit as the car goes over the speed hump and comes down the other side. I have more respect for my vehicle and go over each type of speed reducing device at a reduced speed - lower than the 20mph recomendation - much to the annoyance of large vehicle and bus drivers as their track width is greater than the cushion type of speed reducing device. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -21

4:43pm Thu 12 Jun 14

greenmonkey says...

"I have more respect for my vehicle and go over each type of speed reducing device at a reduced speed - lower than the 20mph recommendation - much to the annoyance of large vehicle and bus drivers as their track width is greater than the cushion type of speed reducing device."

Actually, the speed limit is a MAXIMUM of 20mph, not the speed you should expect to be able to drive over the humps. The preformed 'cushions' are quite severe but unfortunately impact more on small cars than larger ones that can straddle them like buses and lorries. However they can be installed in an hour or so rather than closing the road off for a day and so have much less costs, and probably last just as long.
The answer for those who dont like speed humps is to respect the limit then there would be no reason for the extra expense all round of installing humps!
"I have more respect for my vehicle and go over each type of speed reducing device at a reduced speed - lower than the 20mph recommendation - much to the annoyance of large vehicle and bus drivers as their track width is greater than the cushion type of speed reducing device." Actually, the speed limit is a MAXIMUM of 20mph, not the speed you should expect to be able to drive over the humps. The preformed 'cushions' are quite severe but unfortunately impact more on small cars than larger ones that can straddle them like buses and lorries. However they can be installed in an hour or so rather than closing the road off for a day and so have much less costs, and probably last just as long. The answer for those who dont like speed humps is to respect the limit then there would be no reason for the extra expense all round of installing humps! greenmonkey
  • Score: -3

4:48pm Thu 12 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

15 mph is recommended for humps and 20mph for tables. If you agree these and do not pass those speeds the vehicle you are using should retain grip on the road all the time you pass them. If not the humps/tables are wrongly measured. One was too high before this week in this road. Pannal, Harrogate appear to have shallow humps last time I was there..

The council/highways agency should do a risk assessmernt for any such humps/chicanes/table
s; and may probably have to another one when they arrange for contractors to re-instate.
In particular they could face massive stabilization claims from businesses and/or homeowners.
15 mph is recommended for humps and 20mph for tables. If you agree these and do not pass those speeds the vehicle you are using should retain grip on the road all the time you pass them. If not the humps/tables are wrongly measured. One was too high before this week in this road. Pannal, Harrogate appear to have shallow humps last time I was there.. The council/highways agency should do a risk assessmernt for any such humps/chicanes/table s; and may probably have to another one when they arrange for contractors to re-instate. In particular they could face massive stabilization claims from businesses and/or homeowners. Cheeky face
  • Score: 1

5:59pm Thu 12 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

greenmonkey wrote:
"I have more respect for my vehicle and go over each type of speed reducing device at a reduced speed - lower than the 20mph recommendation - much to the annoyance of large vehicle and bus drivers as their track width is greater than the cushion type of speed reducing device."

Actually, the speed limit is a MAXIMUM of 20mph, not the speed you should expect to be able to drive over the humps. The preformed 'cushions' are quite severe but unfortunately impact more on small cars than larger ones that can straddle them like buses and lorries. However they can be installed in an hour or so rather than closing the road off for a day and so have much less costs, and probably last just as long.
The answer for those who dont like speed humps is to respect the limit then there would be no reason for the extra expense all round of installing humps!
I think your splitting hairs there my verdigris green primate friend, but thank you for pointing out my error.
No one I know likes speed humps, there are better ways of reducing speeding vehicles, chicanes being one example, which is less damaging to vehicles i.e. suspension, tracking and tyres and probably reduces pollution levels too?
[quote][p][bold]greenmonkey[/bold] wrote: "I have more respect for my vehicle and go over each type of speed reducing device at a reduced speed - lower than the 20mph recommendation - much to the annoyance of large vehicle and bus drivers as their track width is greater than the cushion type of speed reducing device." Actually, the speed limit is a MAXIMUM of 20mph, not the speed you should expect to be able to drive over the humps. The preformed 'cushions' are quite severe but unfortunately impact more on small cars than larger ones that can straddle them like buses and lorries. However they can be installed in an hour or so rather than closing the road off for a day and so have much less costs, and probably last just as long. The answer for those who dont like speed humps is to respect the limit then there would be no reason for the extra expense all round of installing humps![/p][/quote]I think your splitting hairs there my verdigris green primate friend, but thank you for pointing out my error. No one I know likes speed humps, there are better ways of reducing speeding vehicles, chicanes being one example, which is less damaging to vehicles i.e. suspension, tracking and tyres and probably reduces pollution levels too? notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -36

12:31pm Fri 13 Jun 14

chunkyyorkie says...

Inconsistent road surfaces are dangerous for cyclists, but only when the TDF comes to town does the council acknowledge this and act. Afterwards they will be reintroduced and therefore making it a danger to cyclists again. Presumably the police will be out in force making sure they do not break the 20mph speed limit. There seems some disparity somewhere?!
Inconsistent road surfaces are dangerous for cyclists, but only when the TDF comes to town does the council acknowledge this and act. Afterwards they will be reintroduced and therefore making it a danger to cyclists again. Presumably the police will be out in force making sure they do not break the 20mph speed limit. There seems some disparity somewhere?! chunkyyorkie
  • Score: 4

3:20pm Fri 13 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

The council are expected to contact utilities before full re-instatement of this road.

Tour de France will pay for de-humping and re-instatement; but the financial aspect of betterment and deferment of renewal is subject to negotiation.

The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it.
The council are expected to contact utilities before full re-instatement of this road. Tour de France will pay for de-humping and re-instatement; but the financial aspect of betterment and deferment of renewal is subject to negotiation. The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it. Cheeky face
  • Score: -1

4:03pm Fri 13 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Cheeky face wrote:
The council are expected to contact utilities before full re-instatement of this road. Tour de France will pay for de-humping and re-instatement; but the financial aspect of betterment and deferment of renewal is subject to negotiation. The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it.
The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it - nudge, nudge wink, wink say no more!
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: The council are expected to contact utilities before full re-instatement of this road. Tour de France will pay for de-humping and re-instatement; but the financial aspect of betterment and deferment of renewal is subject to negotiation. The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it.[/p][/quote]The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it - nudge, nudge wink, wink say no more! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 4

8:26pm Fri 13 Jun 14

tiger4 says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
Cheeky face wrote:
The council are expected to contact utilities before full re-instatement of this road. Tour de France will pay for de-humping and re-instatement; but the financial aspect of betterment and deferment of renewal is subject to negotiation. The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it.
The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it - nudge, nudge wink, wink say no more!
If it is a 20 Zone then it will be unenforceable if the speed humps are missing anyway
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: The council are expected to contact utilities before full re-instatement of this road. Tour de France will pay for de-humping and re-instatement; but the financial aspect of betterment and deferment of renewal is subject to negotiation. The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it.[/p][/quote]The camera car should be used as a deterrent, provided some local people request it - nudge, nudge wink, wink say no more![/p][/quote]If it is a 20 Zone then it will be unenforceable if the speed humps are missing anyway tiger4
  • Score: 2

11:29pm Sun 15 Jun 14

missbouquet says...

The new speedhumps need resiting near J, Rowntree high school,( coming from ring road), in New Earswick, as they encroach into the cycle lane, meaning motorists have to swerve into cycle lane, very dangerous for cyclists.
The new speedhumps need resiting near J, Rowntree high school,( coming from ring road), in New Earswick, as they encroach into the cycle lane, meaning motorists have to swerve into cycle lane, very dangerous for cyclists. missbouquet
  • Score: 2

5:00pm Tue 17 Jun 14

Sidsaucer says...

Silver wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
What on earth are speed "cushions"?

How many think tanks and brain storming exercises did it take for them to come up with that naming convention?
WTF is a Speed Table?
Speed tables are plateaux with ramped edges, generally found at junctions. Speed cushions are much smaller, normally square with each side being less than the distance between bus wheels on a common axle, enabling bus and lorry traffic to flow smoothly and quietly, but encouraging drivers of narrower vehicles to reduce speed. In theory, cyclists and motorcyclists can avoid such cushions but kerbside parking often makes that difficult in practice.
[quote][p][bold]Silver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: What on earth are speed "cushions"? How many think tanks and brain storming exercises did it take for them to come up with that naming convention?[/p][/quote]WTF is a Speed Table?[/p][/quote]Speed tables are plateaux with ramped edges, generally found at junctions. Speed cushions are much smaller, normally square with each side being less than the distance between bus wheels on a common axle, enabling bus and lorry traffic to flow smoothly and quietly, but encouraging drivers of narrower vehicles to reduce speed. In theory, cyclists and motorcyclists can avoid such cushions but kerbside parking often makes that difficult in practice. Sidsaucer
  • Score: 0

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