Relieved motorists crossing Lendal Bridge legally again, after ban lifted

York Press: Thumbs up from motorist John Lightowler who legally crossed Lendal Bridge this morning. Thumbs up from motorist John Lightowler who legally crossed Lendal Bridge this morning.

RELIEVED motorists are once again driving legally over York's Lendal Bridge today, following the lifting of the council's controversial ban on cars, vans, lorries and motorbikes.

John Lightowler, from Green Hammerton, was one of the first to drive over the bridge after 10.30am, when he would previously have been caught on CCTV camera and issued with a £60 penalty charge notice, reducing to £30 if paid within 14 days.

He welcomed City of York Council's decision to abandon the restrictions which have prevented cars, vans, lorries and motorbikes from crossing the bridge for six-and-a-half hours a day since the end of August, following a Government traffic adjudicator's criticism of the scheme.

"It was crackers," said Mr Lightowler, of RM English estate agents. "We have had so many problems with it, with fines and having to drive such a long way round."

Another driver crossing the bridge legally also hailed the decision to scrap the ban, saying: "It's fantastic."

Markings on roads approaching the bridge, which warned of 'restricted access' and 'bus lane' have been painted over in black by council workmen, signs have been removed and a big electronic warning sign on the approach to the bridge from the railway station is switched off.

A wag has also posted a tiny mock 'plaque' on the bridge to mark its re-opening to traffic.

The sign, just below an official plaque marking the scrapping of bridge tolls in 1894, declares: "City of York..This bridge was declared free from toll on the 11th day of April 2014. Julie Gunnell Lord Mayor.. Brian Watson Sheriff ..James Alexander (council leader) .. Dave Merrett (Cabinet member for transport)."

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11:39am Sat 12 Apr 14

courier46 says...

Sense at last,time now to get rid of the idiots before they do any more damage to York.
Sense at last,time now to get rid of the idiots before they do any more damage to York. courier46
  • Score: -23

11:40am Sat 12 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

Haha, bet the bus companies and local ignorant taxi drivers are gutted....
Haha, bet the bus companies and local ignorant taxi drivers are gutted.... Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: 53

11:49am Sat 12 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

Hereiamagainhaha wrote:
Haha, bet the bus companies and local ignorant taxi drivers are gutted....
I know quiet a few taxi drivers, none of which were happy with the restrictions as it created more traffic elsewhere.
I know they are all pleased that it has gone back to normal.
[quote][p][bold]Hereiamagainhaha[/bold] wrote: Haha, bet the bus companies and local ignorant taxi drivers are gutted....[/p][/quote]I know quiet a few taxi drivers, none of which were happy with the restrictions as it created more traffic elsewhere. I know they are all pleased that it has gone back to normal. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -25

11:59am Sat 12 Apr 14

The OX says...

It was the who thing that was illegal, and not cars going over the Bridge
It was the who thing that was illegal, and not cars going over the Bridge The OX
  • Score: -17

12:01pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bravo whisky says...

It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.
It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination. bravo whisky
  • Score: -16

12:12pm Sat 12 Apr 14

courier46 says...

bravo whisky wrote:
It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.
And get rid of these non enforced 20 mph limits.
[quote][p][bold]bravo whisky[/bold] wrote: It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.[/p][/quote]And get rid of these non enforced 20 mph limits. courier46
  • Score: -37

12:13pm Sat 12 Apr 14

vax2002 says...

The Trial as they called it gave rather a nasty bunch of lefties the opportunity to punish car drivers.
It was political extremism vented at the majority who have to run a car to work and get the money to pay the expenses of these rather nasty councillors.
My advice is if you do not want extremists making vindictive policies like this you must get of your backsides, stand as independent councillors and represent the people.
This lot, repress something rather different I am afraid.
They will now be plotting another way to punish people for the crime of owning a car and not riding bikes.
The Trial as they called it gave rather a nasty bunch of lefties the opportunity to punish car drivers. It was political extremism vented at the majority who have to run a car to work and get the money to pay the expenses of these rather nasty councillors. My advice is if you do not want extremists making vindictive policies like this you must get of your backsides, stand as independent councillors and represent the people. This lot, repress something rather different I am afraid. They will now be plotting another way to punish people for the crime of owning a car and not riding bikes. vax2002
  • Score: -28

12:17pm Sat 12 Apr 14

offa says...

The selfish drivers have won. No-one else
The selfish drivers have won. No-one else offa
  • Score: 43

12:30pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Silver says...

offa wrote:
The selfish drivers have won. No-one else
I rarely need to drive over to the other side of the city but the fact that a lot of visitors to our city were put off returning here was a key point for me in not being for the closure. How is that selfish?
It's a victory for common sense. I agree something needs to be done to reduce congestion but we've all learnt the blatantly obvious that closing a bridge doesn't do that.
[quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: The selfish drivers have won. No-one else[/p][/quote]I rarely need to drive over to the other side of the city but the fact that a lot of visitors to our city were put off returning here was a key point for me in not being for the closure. How is that selfish? It's a victory for common sense. I agree something needs to be done to reduce congestion but we've all learnt the blatantly obvious that closing a bridge doesn't do that. Silver
  • Score: 15

12:34pm Sat 12 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take? pedalling paul
  • Score: 68

12:36pm Sat 12 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

RELIEVED motorists are once again driving legally over York's Lendal Bridge today.

The opening line of the story suggests it was recently illegal, I thought that was in doubt hence the council preparing an appeal.
RELIEVED motorists are once again driving legally over York's Lendal Bridge today. The opening line of the story suggests it was recently illegal, I thought that was in doubt hence the council preparing an appeal. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -19

12:37pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Just-a-moment says...

Let's not beat about the bush. Anyone who hears these blustering councillors knows they're not fit for the job. They're inept and incompetent. Only a year to go and we can put them out of their (and our) misery. Bring it on!
Let's not beat about the bush. Anyone who hears these blustering councillors knows they're not fit for the job. They're inept and incompetent. Only a year to go and we can put them out of their (and our) misery. Bring it on! Just-a-moment
  • Score: -13

12:42pm Sat 12 Apr 14

yorkiemum says...

Wow no queues on the Bypass from Acomb to Rawcliffe wonder why??
Wow no queues on the Bypass from Acomb to Rawcliffe wonder why?? yorkiemum
  • Score: -16

12:43pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
And hopefully drop down a pot hole.....
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]And hopefully drop down a pot hole..... Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: 7

1:01pm Sat 12 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

Wonder if the cameras caught the 'wag' who did the bit of vandalism with the spoof sign. I know who my guess would be.
Wonder if the cameras caught the 'wag' who did the bit of vandalism with the spoof sign. I know who my guess would be. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 35

1:05pm Sat 12 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

vax2002 wrote:
The Trial as they called it gave rather a nasty bunch of lefties the opportunity to punish car drivers.
It was political extremism vented at the majority who have to run a car to work and get the money to pay the expenses of these rather nasty councillors.
My advice is if you do not want extremists making vindictive policies like this you must get of your backsides, stand as independent councillors and represent the people.
This lot, repress something rather different I am afraid.
They will now be plotting another way to punish people for the crime of owning a car and not riding bikes.
What does generalising tendencies make of Labour voters who drive? Are we 'nasty' or the oppressed? Or did your 'outrage' just get the better of your common sense?

Glad the fiasco is over personally, not a bad idea to trial it, but oh what a mess in how it was conducted. Typical Council tbh - same under this lot, same under Lib Dems and have no reason to presume Foodbank Steward would be any better.
[quote][p][bold]vax2002[/bold] wrote: The Trial as they called it gave rather a nasty bunch of lefties the opportunity to punish car drivers. It was political extremism vented at the majority who have to run a car to work and get the money to pay the expenses of these rather nasty councillors. My advice is if you do not want extremists making vindictive policies like this you must get of your backsides, stand as independent councillors and represent the people. This lot, repress something rather different I am afraid. They will now be plotting another way to punish people for the crime of owning a car and not riding bikes.[/p][/quote]What does generalising tendencies make of Labour voters who drive? Are we 'nasty' or the oppressed? Or did your 'outrage' just get the better of your common sense? Glad the fiasco is over personally, not a bad idea to trial it, but oh what a mess in how it was conducted. Typical Council tbh - same under this lot, same under Lib Dems and have no reason to presume Foodbank Steward would be any better. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 13

1:08pm Sat 12 Apr 14

marvell says...

Don't worry they'll find other stupid projects that they'll find to waste our money on.

I had a dream last night that they would spend £250,000 improving the signage in York - luckily I woke up and laughed it off...
Don't worry they'll find other stupid projects that they'll find to waste our money on. I had a dream last night that they would spend £250,000 improving the signage in York - luckily I woke up and laughed it off... marvell
  • Score: -17

1:20pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Justin7 says...

Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions.

Bravo Tories, bravo.

Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green!
Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions. Bravo Tories, bravo. Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green! Justin7
  • Score: 57

1:30pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

Justin7 wrote:
Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions.

Bravo Tories, bravo.

Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green!
Nutter......
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions. Bravo Tories, bravo. Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green![/p][/quote]Nutter...... Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: -149

1:32pm Sat 12 Apr 14

MorkofYork says...

pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Your simplistic view of motorists is a load of nonsense. You just say the same rubbish over and over again.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Your simplistic view of motorists is a load of nonsense. You just say the same rubbish over and over again. MorkofYork
  • Score: -138

1:35pm Sat 12 Apr 14

smudge2 says...

Let's all create pedalling paul aliases online as a campaign .
Let's all create pedalling paul aliases online as a campaign . smudge2
  • Score: -149

2:12pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bobsuncle says...

Wahoo... finally!! Never thought it'd end. Well done to all those that helped prevent this complete and utter nonsense from going any further!!
Wahoo... finally!! Never thought it'd end. Well done to all those that helped prevent this complete and utter nonsense from going any further!! bobsuncle
  • Score: -107

2:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

big boy york says...

went over lendal bridge at 11 30 this morning expecting bumper to bumper jams, guess what 1 car in front n bus behind that was it, & only noddy train going back to NRM going other way bliss
went over lendal bridge at 11 30 this morning expecting bumper to bumper jams, guess what 1 car in front n bus behind that was it, & only noddy train going back to NRM going other way bliss big boy york
  • Score: -105

2:38pm Sat 12 Apr 14

CHISSY1 says...

The bridge is now open end of,or are you all desperate for something else to moan about.How about closing all these so called food banks and opening somewhere that taught some of these feckless people how to budget and cook.
The bridge is now open end of,or are you all desperate for something else to moan about.How about closing all these so called food banks and opening somewhere that taught some of these feckless people how to budget and cook. CHISSY1
  • Score: -80

2:52pm Sat 12 Apr 14

JHardacre says...

Justin7 wrote:
Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions.

Bravo Tories, bravo.

Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green!
Tourists eh? How do you know? Neither of my cars have a local number plate so did you count me as a tourist (I was in a silver 4x4 with a Norfolk number plate if you must know)? Besides, what does it matter who is in the car, a vehicular route has been restored to it's original purpose and open for all, tourists included, to use.
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions. Bravo Tories, bravo. Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green![/p][/quote]Tourists eh? How do you know? Neither of my cars have a local number plate so did you count me as a tourist (I was in a silver 4x4 with a Norfolk number plate if you must know)? Besides, what does it matter who is in the car, a vehicular route has been restored to it's original purpose and open for all, tourists included, to use. JHardacre
  • Score: -24

3:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bolero says...

smudge2 wrote:
Let's all create pedalling paul aliases online as a campaign .
I don't wish to be an alley ****.
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: Let's all create pedalling paul aliases online as a campaign .[/p][/quote]I don't wish to be an alley ****. bolero
  • Score: -30

3:31pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Teabag1 says...

pay back now when do we get refunds!!!!
pay back now when do we get refunds!!!! Teabag1
  • Score: -114

3:42pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case.
Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike?
As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case. Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike? As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -125

3:51pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
Wonder if the cameras caught the 'wag' who did the bit of vandalism with the spoof sign. I know who my guess would be.
There's one person it wouldn't be - pp/Hepworth - or could it?, if they caught someone on camera with a hi-vis with 'POLITE'' followed by 'Think Bike', then its him and he's been caught bang to rights!
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Wonder if the cameras caught the 'wag' who did the bit of vandalism with the spoof sign. I know who my guess would be.[/p][/quote]There's one person it wouldn't be - pp/Hepworth - or could it?, if they caught someone on camera with a hi-vis with 'POLITE'' followed by 'Think Bike', then its him and he's been caught bang to rights! Igiveinthen
  • Score: -127

3:58pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

Justin7 wrote:
Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions.

Bravo Tories, bravo.

Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green!
Oh no you've woken up again!, you really do need to keep taking your medication, you know you will feel a lot better!
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: Lots of tourists all clogging up the bridge this morning, with fumes making it hard to breath for locals crossing it on bike and foot. That's our carbon footprint back up to stupid proportions. Bravo Tories, bravo. Ban all motor vehicles from York. Think of the planet. Vote Green![/p][/quote]Oh no you've woken up again!, you really do need to keep taking your medication, you know you will feel a lot better! Igiveinthen
  • Score: -123

4:39pm Sat 12 Apr 14

ouseswimmer says...

courier46 wrote:
bravo whisky wrote:
It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.
And get rid of these non enforced 20 mph limits.
The 20mph zones are not enforceable anyway. To be correctly enforced they have to have signage every few yards otherwise they are 30mph zones.
[quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bravo whisky[/bold] wrote: It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.[/p][/quote]And get rid of these non enforced 20 mph limits.[/p][/quote]The 20mph zones are not enforceable anyway. To be correctly enforced they have to have signage every few yards otherwise they are 30mph zones. ouseswimmer
  • Score: -114

4:45pm Sat 12 Apr 14

The OX says...

pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Can you put your name on your back to give us a target PP lol
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Can you put your name on your back to give us a target PP lol The OX
  • Score: -130

4:53pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

The OX wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Can you put your name on your back to give us a target PP lol
Oh he doesn't need to do that he wears a hi-vis with 'POLITE'' followed by 'Think Bike' on the back, he imagines it's slows traffic as they think he's an officer of the law!
[quote][p][bold]The OX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Can you put your name on your back to give us a target PP lol[/p][/quote]Oh he doesn't need to do that he wears a hi-vis with 'POLITE'' followed by 'Think Bike' on the back, he imagines it's slows traffic as they think he's an officer of the law! Igiveinthen
  • Score: -121

5:16pm Sat 12 Apr 14

CHISSY1 says...

Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.
Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults. CHISSY1
  • Score: -159

5:47pm Sat 12 Apr 14

sdmike says...

What a limp wristed load of councillors we have: yet another U-turn. Traffic is so slow over the bridge that the flow it provides is irrelevant. Why oh why could it not have been kept closed? A city centre like York's is neither designed nor suitable for today's traffic. Let's keep it way and enjoy our city in peace.
What a limp wristed load of councillors we have: yet another U-turn. Traffic is so slow over the bridge that the flow it provides is irrelevant. Why oh why could it not have been kept closed? A city centre like York's is neither designed nor suitable for today's traffic. Let's keep it way and enjoy our city in peace. sdmike
  • Score: 36

6:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bloodaxe says...

Igiveinthen wrote:
The OX wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Can you put your name on your back to give us a target PP lol
Oh he doesn't need to do that he wears a hi-vis with 'POLITE'' followed by 'Think Bike' on the back, he imagines it's slows traffic as they think he's an officer of the law!
Looks as though we have a whole new bunch of Independent candidates for the next council elections. Possibly.
[quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The OX[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Can you put your name on your back to give us a target PP lol[/p][/quote]Oh he doesn't need to do that he wears a hi-vis with 'POLITE'' followed by 'Think Bike' on the back, he imagines it's slows traffic as they think he's an officer of the law![/p][/quote]Looks as though we have a whole new bunch of Independent candidates for the next council elections. Possibly. bloodaxe
  • Score: 9

7:04pm Sat 12 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

CHISSY1 wrote:
Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.
Caught you moaning at the moaners again CHISSY1 of Selby, tut tut.
[quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.[/p][/quote]Caught you moaning at the moaners again CHISSY1 of Selby, tut tut. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: 11

8:20pm Sat 12 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

Careful....... the York bike shop that sold me the POLITE jacket has sold quite a few by all accounts, plus they are available on line as well.
Careful....... the York bike shop that sold me the POLITE jacket has sold quite a few by all accounts, plus they are available on line as well. pedalling paul
  • Score: 23

8:39pm Sat 12 Apr 14

calmdownyork says...

Let's not forget that we still have one of the largest pedestrian zones in Europe. I drove over the bridge this afternoon and there was absolutely no other traffic in either direction, so perhaps it has changed habits a little.
Let's not forget that we still have one of the largest pedestrian zones in Europe. I drove over the bridge this afternoon and there was absolutely no other traffic in either direction, so perhaps it has changed habits a little. calmdownyork
  • Score: 28

9:54pm Sat 12 Apr 14

CHISSY1 says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote:
Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.
Caught you moaning at the moaners again CHISSY1 of Selby, tut tut.
No i make comments and observations,unfortu
nately you seem unable to do either.This is what happens when one has had a bad upbringing and lack of education,you should take note and learn before attempting to take on adults.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.[/p][/quote]Caught you moaning at the moaners again CHISSY1 of Selby, tut tut.[/p][/quote]No i make comments and observations,unfortu nately you seem unable to do either.This is what happens when one has had a bad upbringing and lack of education,you should take note and learn before attempting to take on adults. CHISSY1
  • Score: -37

10:27pm Sat 12 Apr 14

wallman says...

bravo whisky wrote:
It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.
Coppergate has been restricted for years between 8 and 5
[quote][p][bold]bravo whisky[/bold] wrote: It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.[/p][/quote]Coppergate has been restricted for years between 8 and 5 wallman
  • Score: 51

10:28pm Sat 12 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

CHISSY1 wrote:
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote:
Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.
Caught you moaning at the moaners again CHISSY1 of Selby, tut tut.
No i make comments and observations,unfortu

nately you seem unable to do either.This is what happens when one has had a bad upbringing and lack of education,you should take note and learn before attempting to take on adults.
I'm pretty sure CHISSY1 of Selby, that if you were to read my post you would see that it is both a comment and an observation.

I "commented" on my "observation" of you (CHISSY1 of Selby), moaning about moaners.

If you are going to try and insult anyone CHISSY1 of Selby, then you must at least get the basics right.
[quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: Like a bunch of primary school children,no sorry they are not as bad as these so called adults.[/p][/quote]Caught you moaning at the moaners again CHISSY1 of Selby, tut tut.[/p][/quote]No i make comments and observations,unfortu nately you seem unable to do either.This is what happens when one has had a bad upbringing and lack of education,you should take note and learn before attempting to take on adults.[/p][/quote]I'm pretty sure CHISSY1 of Selby, that if you were to read my post you would see that it is both a comment and an observation. I "commented" on my "observation" of you (CHISSY1 of Selby), moaning about moaners. If you are going to try and insult anyone CHISSY1 of Selby, then you must at least get the basics right. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: 12

11:14pm Sat 12 Apr 14

pedaling paulo says...

Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone. pedaling paulo
  • Score: -65

11:39pm Sat 12 Apr 14

courier46 says...

Can we just start with making the paths cyclist free!!
Can we just start with making the paths cyclist free!! courier46
  • Score: -97

11:45pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

pedaling paulo wrote:
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
Haha.......
[quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]Haha....... Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: -115

8:14am Sun 13 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

marvell wrote:
Don't worry they'll find other stupid projects that they'll find to waste our money on.

I had a dream last night that they would spend £250,000 improving the signage in York - luckily I woke up and laughed it off...
They've already done it (found ways to waste money). When they opened the new offices just one year ago they resurfaced the entire road area round the offices at vast expense. A visiting friend said "this looks as though it will come apart after one cold spell".
They have just resurfaced the whole road again!
[quote][p][bold]marvell[/bold] wrote: Don't worry they'll find other stupid projects that they'll find to waste our money on. I had a dream last night that they would spend £250,000 improving the signage in York - luckily I woke up and laughed it off...[/p][/quote]They've already done it (found ways to waste money). When they opened the new offices just one year ago they resurfaced the entire road area round the offices at vast expense. A visiting friend said "this looks as though it will come apart after one cold spell". They have just resurfaced the whole road again! Pinza-C55
  • Score: -41

8:57am Sun 13 Apr 14

CaroleBaines says...

West Offices was a total waste of money but that was the Lib Dems. Know a fair few people who work there, all dislike it. Grey, noisy, horribly open plan, best bits not really used except for meetings, over-zealous security. Oh well, we 'only' borrowed £47m to fund it......sigh.
West Offices was a total waste of money but that was the Lib Dems. Know a fair few people who work there, all dislike it. Grey, noisy, horribly open plan, best bits not really used except for meetings, over-zealous security. Oh well, we 'only' borrowed £47m to fund it......sigh. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 9

9:23am Sun 13 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

Hereiamagainhaha wrote:
pedaling paulo wrote:
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
Haha.......
Some commentators may believe that they have won a battle, But they will ultimately lose their war against unrestricted motor vehicle access, by their own actions.
Three important matters are now pending.
Firstly the legal challenge against the Traffic Adjudicator. This has implications for Local Authorities across the UK who are understandably eager to use ANPR technology to the full.
Secondly the independent Institute of Transport Studies report into the Lendal experiment.
Thirdly the planned cross-party, independently chaired Commission on congestion and the available options to reduce car dependency in line with our Local Transport Plan's goals.
York's iTravel website at http://www.itravelyo
rk.info/ has an advice page for car owners which states ..."Most households in York own or drive a car and we all love the convenience of using cars to keep up with our busy lifestyles. But there are many people in York for whom a car is absolutely essential and perhaps their only way of getting from A to B - whether that's due to where they live, or health or mobility issues. It's important to keep our roads moving and reduce congestion so that these essential users can get about easily."
Other areas of the website have useful advice on alternative travel options for many of our local journeys viz. walking, cycling, bus & car sharing.
[quote][p][bold]Hereiamagainhaha[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]Haha.......[/p][/quote]Some commentators may believe that they have won a battle, But they will ultimately lose their war against unrestricted motor vehicle access, by their own actions. Three important matters are now pending. Firstly the legal challenge against the Traffic Adjudicator. This has implications for Local Authorities across the UK who are understandably eager to use ANPR technology to the full. Secondly the independent Institute of Transport Studies report into the Lendal experiment. Thirdly the planned cross-party, independently chaired Commission on congestion and the available options to reduce car dependency in line with our Local Transport Plan's goals. York's iTravel website at http://www.itravelyo rk.info/ has an advice page for car owners which states ..."Most households in York own or drive a car and we all love the convenience of using cars to keep up with our busy lifestyles. But there are many people in York for whom a car is absolutely essential and perhaps their only way of getting from A to B - whether that's due to where they live, or health or mobility issues. It's important to keep our roads moving and reduce congestion so that these essential users can get about easily." Other areas of the website have useful advice on alternative travel options for many of our local journeys viz. walking, cycling, bus & car sharing. pedalling paul
  • Score: 106

9:46am Sun 13 Apr 14

smudge2 says...

pedaling paulo wrote:
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.
[quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments. smudge2
  • Score: -106

11:57am Sun 13 Apr 14

Barstool Knowall says...

Lets hope this ill conceived idea has been laid to rest for many years to come. Until York has a properly designed and built inner ring road not just the mess that we have at present, schemes such as this are doomed to fail.
Wonder if anyone else has heard a whisper that the Council had already spent thousands of pounds on purchasing permanent signs for this scheme before any "Decision" was made on it?
Lets hope this ill conceived idea has been laid to rest for many years to come. Until York has a properly designed and built inner ring road not just the mess that we have at present, schemes such as this are doomed to fail. Wonder if anyone else has heard a whisper that the Council had already spent thousands of pounds on purchasing permanent signs for this scheme before any "Decision" was made on it? Barstool Knowall
  • Score: -13

12:09pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Paul Hepworth says...

smudge2 wrote:
pedaling paulo wrote:
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.
Oh dearie me...confusion seems to be reigning again!! Is there anyone apart from myself who has the courage to post under their own name? My doppleganger, bless him seems to be getting up all your noses at the moment
Oh and by the way, I've bought one of those POLITE jackets as well. Can't have PP as the only accredited wearer.
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.[/p][/quote]Oh dearie me...confusion seems to be reigning again!! Is there anyone apart from myself who has the courage to post under their own name? My doppleganger, bless him seems to be getting up all your noses at the moment Oh and by the way, I've bought one of those POLITE jackets as well. Can't have PP as the only accredited wearer. Paul Hepworth
  • Score: 24

12:36pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Dave Ruddock says...

I just find in comical that the people that caused all this controversy in the first place have the dam cheek to put a plaque on the bridge
The sign, just below an official plaque marking the scrapping of bridge tolls in 1894, declares: "City of York..This bridge was declared free from toll on the 11th day of April 2014. Julie Gunnell Lord Mayor.. Brian Watson Sheriff ..James Alexander (council leader) .. Dave Merrett (Cabinet member for transport)."

before someone removes it or trashes it. There is no reason for it being there and if there is controversy on that then GET the clifton bridge plaque back on the bridge lol
I just find in comical that the people that caused all this controversy in the first place have the dam cheek to put a plaque on the bridge The sign, just below an official plaque marking the scrapping of bridge tolls in 1894, declares: "City of York..This bridge was declared free from toll on the 11th day of April 2014. Julie Gunnell Lord Mayor.. Brian Watson Sheriff ..James Alexander (council leader) .. Dave Merrett (Cabinet member for transport)." before someone removes it or trashes it. There is no reason for it being there and if there is controversy on that then GET the clifton bridge plaque back on the bridge lol Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -98

1:45pm Sun 13 Apr 14

jay, york says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Hereiamagainhaha wrote:
pedaling paulo wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
Haha.......
Some commentators may believe that they have won a battle, But they will ultimately lose their war against unrestricted motor vehicle access, by their own actions. Three important matters are now pending. Firstly the legal challenge against the Traffic Adjudicator. This has implications for Local Authorities across the UK who are understandably eager to use ANPR technology to the full. Secondly the independent Institute of Transport Studies report into the Lendal experiment. Thirdly the planned cross-party, independently chaired Commission on congestion and the available options to reduce car dependency in line with our Local Transport Plan's goals. York's iTravel website at http://www.itravelyo rk.info/ has an advice page for car owners which states ..."Most households in York own or drive a car and we all love the convenience of using cars to keep up with our busy lifestyles. But there are many people in York for whom a car is absolutely essential and perhaps their only way of getting from A to B - whether that's due to where they live, or health or mobility issues. It's important to keep our roads moving and reduce congestion so that these essential users can get about easily." Other areas of the website have useful advice on alternative travel options for many of our local journeys viz. walking, cycling, bus & car sharing.
Firstly, I NEVER thought I would agree with somthing quoted by pp - " It's important to keep our roads moving and reduce congestion so that these essential users (he refers to where people live, health and mobility issues) can get about easily"
Yes, it is vitally important to keep our roads moving an reduce congestion - but you dont acheive that by closing roads, narrowing roads and creating obstacles to make driving more difficult and reducing speed limits across the whole of York to 20mph for all vehicles.
Secondly, it seems that pp/ Hepworth may just have a problem with very low self esteem - he needs a yellow vest with the word POLITE on it to make him feel important, he constantly villifies car drivers and claims his lifestyle and mode of transport far exceed theirs, he takes great pleasure out of the fact that he thinks he is annoying and and irritating other road users and posters here. What a sad case......
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hereiamagainhaha[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]Haha.......[/p][/quote]Some commentators may believe that they have won a battle, But they will ultimately lose their war against unrestricted motor vehicle access, by their own actions. Three important matters are now pending. Firstly the legal challenge against the Traffic Adjudicator. This has implications for Local Authorities across the UK who are understandably eager to use ANPR technology to the full. Secondly the independent Institute of Transport Studies report into the Lendal experiment. Thirdly the planned cross-party, independently chaired Commission on congestion and the available options to reduce car dependency in line with our Local Transport Plan's goals. York's iTravel website at http://www.itravelyo rk.info/ has an advice page for car owners which states ..."Most households in York own or drive a car and we all love the convenience of using cars to keep up with our busy lifestyles. But there are many people in York for whom a car is absolutely essential and perhaps their only way of getting from A to B - whether that's due to where they live, or health or mobility issues. It's important to keep our roads moving and reduce congestion so that these essential users can get about easily." Other areas of the website have useful advice on alternative travel options for many of our local journeys viz. walking, cycling, bus & car sharing.[/p][/quote]Firstly, I NEVER thought I would agree with somthing quoted by pp - " It's important to keep our roads moving and reduce congestion so that these essential users (he refers to where people live, health and mobility issues) can get about easily" Yes, it is vitally important to keep our roads moving an reduce congestion - but you dont acheive that by closing roads, narrowing roads and creating obstacles to make driving more difficult and reducing speed limits across the whole of York to 20mph for all vehicles. Secondly, it seems that pp/ Hepworth may just have a problem with very low self esteem - he needs a yellow vest with the word POLITE on it to make him feel important, he constantly villifies car drivers and claims his lifestyle and mode of transport far exceed theirs, he takes great pleasure out of the fact that he thinks he is annoying and and irritating other road users and posters here. What a sad case...... jay, york
  • Score: -62

2:37pm Sun 13 Apr 14

mmarshal says...

Interesting. If the score ratings are to be believed (NOT), then there is a huge majority of readers who supported the Lendal Folly.
Even Paul Hepworth is achieving plus scores.
Would somebody enlighten me as to how this score system is working?
Interesting. If the score ratings are to be believed (NOT), then there is a huge majority of readers who supported the Lendal Folly. Even Paul Hepworth is achieving plus scores. Would somebody enlighten me as to how this score system is working? mmarshal
  • Score: 23

3:34pm Sun 13 Apr 14

doltare says...

courier46 wrote:
Sense at last,time now to get rid of the idiots before they do any more damage to York.
These idiots are rushing in market refub that nobody wants! They know residents want it back Parliament st but these muppet's want to rush it so they can spend the loan which has to be back in five years by the new council! this is there next thing going to get wrong only this time York tax payers will end up paying for the refurb as there wont be enough traders left for the rents to pay it back!
[quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: Sense at last,time now to get rid of the idiots before they do any more damage to York.[/p][/quote]These idiots are rushing in market refub that nobody wants! They know residents want it back Parliament st but these muppet's want to rush it so they can spend the loan which has to be back in five years by the new council! this is there next thing going to get wrong only this time York tax payers will end up paying for the refurb as there wont be enough traders left for the rents to pay it back! doltare
  • Score: -118

3:39pm Sun 13 Apr 14

doltare says...

smudge2 wrote:
pedaling paulo wrote:
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.
I agree let get all the city cycle free or start making them pay road tax like the rest of us! plus they ride bikes without lights don't stop at traffic lights! we would be fined if we drove our cars without light or on the path.
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.[/p][/quote]I agree let get all the city cycle free or start making them pay road tax like the rest of us! plus they ride bikes without lights don't stop at traffic lights! we would be fined if we drove our cars without light or on the path. doltare
  • Score: -88

6:53pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

Any knowledge on whether we can see the report from the Leeds firm regarding Lendal Bridge.

I suspect the council have seen it!
Any knowledge on whether we can see the report from the Leeds firm regarding Lendal Bridge. I suspect the council have seen it! Cheeky face
  • Score: -65

7:01pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

Paul Hepworth wrote:
smudge2 wrote:
pedaling paulo wrote:
Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.
More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.
Oh dearie me...confusion seems to be reigning again!! Is there anyone apart from myself who has the courage to post under their own name? My doppleganger, bless him seems to be getting up all your noses at the moment
Oh and by the way, I've bought one of those POLITE jackets as well. Can't have PP as the only accredited wearer.
Another red herring then pp/Hepworth!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Paul Hepworth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedaling paulo[/bold] wrote: Wonderful that the bridge is reopened to cars - now let' s make the City a cycle free zone.[/p][/quote]More pedalling aliases please to confuse hepworths comments.[/p][/quote]Oh dearie me...confusion seems to be reigning again!! Is there anyone apart from myself who has the courage to post under their own name? My doppleganger, bless him seems to be getting up all your noses at the moment Oh and by the way, I've bought one of those POLITE jackets as well. Can't have PP as the only accredited wearer.[/p][/quote]Another red herring then pp/Hepworth!!!! Igiveinthen
  • Score: -78

7:19pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

On my way home thought I would take a detour through the City and over Lendal Bridge, time was 14.45, drove up Gillygate, through Exhibition Square, Museum Street and over the famous bridge, only hold up was the wally train going to the NRM!!!.
On my way home thought I would take a detour through the City and over Lendal Bridge, time was 14.45, drove up Gillygate, through Exhibition Square, Museum Street and over the famous bridge, only hold up was the wally train going to the NRM!!!. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -58

3:00am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Silver wrote:
offa wrote:
The selfish drivers have won. No-one else
I rarely need to drive over to the other side of the city but the fact that a lot of visitors to our city were put off returning here was a key point for me in not being for the closure. How is that selfish?
It's a victory for common sense. I agree something needs to be done to reduce congestion but we've all learnt the blatantly obvious that closing a bridge doesn't do that.
So pray tell us, how would YOU go about reducing congestion on the key city centre streets which are laden with tourists from Easter to September (who find bumper to bumper traffic very offputting for future visits), of which both Lendal and Ouse bridges are included??

Of course if the Press stations a reporter on the bridge at 10.35am they are going to get smiling happy people saying the removal of the fines is a good thing. If I wanted a car from a heavily surveyed forecourt without paying for it, then somebody came along and smashed all the cameras and the chloroformed anybody nearby, you'd see me behind the wheel of a new car and smiling.... doesn't mean what has been done is correct! All it means is the people who wanted to do whatever they want can now do so, whereas before they could not.
[quote][p][bold]Silver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]offa[/bold] wrote: The selfish drivers have won. No-one else[/p][/quote]I rarely need to drive over to the other side of the city but the fact that a lot of visitors to our city were put off returning here was a key point for me in not being for the closure. How is that selfish? It's a victory for common sense. I agree something needs to be done to reduce congestion but we've all learnt the blatantly obvious that closing a bridge doesn't do that.[/p][/quote]So pray tell us, how would YOU go about reducing congestion on the key city centre streets which are laden with tourists from Easter to September (who find bumper to bumper traffic very offputting for future visits), of which both Lendal and Ouse bridges are included?? Of course if the Press stations a reporter on the bridge at 10.35am they are going to get smiling happy people saying the removal of the fines is a good thing. If I wanted a car from a heavily surveyed forecourt without paying for it, then somebody came along and smashed all the cameras and the chloroformed anybody nearby, you'd see me behind the wheel of a new car and smiling.... doesn't mean what has been done is correct! All it means is the people who wanted to do whatever they want can now do so, whereas before they could not. Magicman!
  • Score: 12

3:05am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

big boy york wrote:
went over lendal bridge at 11 30 this morning expecting bumper to bumper jams, guess what 1 car in front n bus behind that was it, & only noddy train going back to NRM going other way bliss
Well yeah... because a lot of people have either redirected their journeys and got used to the new route, or have not read that the bridge is reopened again.

Plus 11.30am isn't exactly 'peak time'.
[quote][p][bold]big boy york[/bold] wrote: went over lendal bridge at 11 30 this morning expecting bumper to bumper jams, guess what 1 car in front n bus behind that was it, & only noddy train going back to NRM going other way bliss[/p][/quote]Well yeah... because a lot of people have either redirected their journeys and got used to the new route, or have not read that the bridge is reopened again. Plus 11.30am isn't exactly 'peak time'. Magicman!
  • Score: 20

3:07am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

bravo whisky wrote:
It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.
So you'd need a time machine for that... to go back to the 1980's before any restrictions to private vehicles were placed on Coppergate. It's been illegal to drive along there for ages - the only difference is that this council got so fed up with offenders that they actually got off their ar$es and did something about it. The Lid Dems before them could have put up cameras, they had long enough to do so, but they never did.
[quote][p][bold]bravo whisky[/bold] wrote: It is a wonder James Alexander and his labour cronies have any feet left after the number of times they have shot into them. Now we need Coppergate returning to its proper function, a road that allows one to get across town in minutes rather than drive miles around to get to the same destination.[/p][/quote]So you'd need a time machine for that... to go back to the 1980's before any restrictions to private vehicles were placed on Coppergate. It's been illegal to drive along there for ages - the only difference is that this council got so fed up with offenders that they actually got off their ar$es and did something about it. The Lid Dems before them could have put up cameras, they had long enough to do so, but they never did. Magicman!
  • Score: 32

3:08am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

CHISSY1 wrote:
The bridge is now open end of,or are you all desperate for something else to moan about.How about closing all these so called food banks and opening somewhere that taught some of these feckless people how to budget and cook.
Do you have a book with a checklist on how to offend as many people as possible with stupid ill-thought comments??
[quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: The bridge is now open end of,or are you all desperate for something else to moan about.How about closing all these so called food banks and opening somewhere that taught some of these feckless people how to budget and cook.[/p][/quote]Do you have a book with a checklist on how to offend as many people as possible with stupid ill-thought comments?? Magicman!
  • Score: 31

3:19am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Igiveinthen wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case.
Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike?
As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.
If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:-

- why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible?

- Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process?

- Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane?

... and most importantly...

- why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue?

... If that is not the actions of people being jealous of cyclists 'getting past', then I'd love to know what is!!

And as for the "a minority" comment, think about this:- certain countries in Africa are riddled with gang culture, hijacking, raping, kidnaps, and gun crime, to the point that people who commit such acts are in the majority. If sudden new rules came in which meant anybody committing such acts could be shot on the scene by police snipers on the rooftops, would people like you protest saying something along the lines of "they need a solution to cater for all the people and not just a minority"...?? Just because you may see yourself as being part of a majority doesn't mean you are right. Those who were out on the streets of Croydon on a certain night or two in August 2011 were making the majority of people out and about those nights, but were their actions correct and legal?
[quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case. Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike? As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.[/p][/quote]If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:- - why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible? - Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process? - Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane? ... and most importantly... - why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue? ... If that is not the actions of people being jealous of cyclists 'getting past', then I'd love to know what is!! And as for the "a minority" comment, think about this:- certain countries in Africa are riddled with gang culture, hijacking, raping, kidnaps, and gun crime, to the point that people who commit such acts are in the majority. If sudden new rules came in which meant anybody committing such acts could be shot on the scene by police snipers on the rooftops, would people like you protest saying something along the lines of "they need a solution to cater for all the people and not just a minority"...?? Just because you may see yourself as being part of a majority doesn't mean you are right. Those who were out on the streets of Croydon on a certain night or two in August 2011 were making the majority of people out and about those nights, but were their actions correct and legal? Magicman!
  • Score: 15

6:27am Mon 14 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

Magicman! wrote:
Igiveinthen wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case.
Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike?
As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.
If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:-

- why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible?

- Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process?

- Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane?

... and most importantly...

- why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue?

... If that is not the actions of people being jealous of cyclists 'getting past', then I'd love to know what is!!

And as for the "a minority" comment, think about this:- certain countries in Africa are riddled with gang culture, hijacking, raping, kidnaps, and gun crime, to the point that people who commit such acts are in the majority. If sudden new rules came in which meant anybody committing such acts could be shot on the scene by police snipers on the rooftops, would people like you protest saying something along the lines of "they need a solution to cater for all the people and not just a minority"...?? Just because you may see yourself as being part of a majority doesn't mean you are right. Those who were out on the streets of Croydon on a certain night or two in August 2011 were making the majority of people out and about those nights, but were their actions correct and legal?
If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:-

- why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible?

- Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process?

- Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane?

... and most importantly...

- why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue?

Do you have any evidence of all the above, or do you just enjoy talking cr@p?
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case. Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike? As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.[/p][/quote]If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:- - why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible? - Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process? - Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane? ... and most importantly... - why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue? ... If that is not the actions of people being jealous of cyclists 'getting past', then I'd love to know what is!! And as for the "a minority" comment, think about this:- certain countries in Africa are riddled with gang culture, hijacking, raping, kidnaps, and gun crime, to the point that people who commit such acts are in the majority. If sudden new rules came in which meant anybody committing such acts could be shot on the scene by police snipers on the rooftops, would people like you protest saying something along the lines of "they need a solution to cater for all the people and not just a minority"...?? Just because you may see yourself as being part of a majority doesn't mean you are right. Those who were out on the streets of Croydon on a certain night or two in August 2011 were making the majority of people out and about those nights, but were their actions correct and legal?[/p][/quote][quote]If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:- - why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible? - Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process? - Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane? ... and most importantly... - why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue?[/quote] Do you have any evidence of all the above, or do you just enjoy talking cr@p? NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -18

7:00am Mon 14 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

Magicman! wrote:
Igiveinthen wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?
Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case.
Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike?
As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.
If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:-

- why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible?

- Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process?

- Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane?

... and most importantly...

- why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue?

... If that is not the actions of people being jealous of cyclists 'getting past', then I'd love to know what is!!

And as for the "a minority" comment, think about this:- certain countries in Africa are riddled with gang culture, hijacking, raping, kidnaps, and gun crime, to the point that people who commit such acts are in the majority. If sudden new rules came in which meant anybody committing such acts could be shot on the scene by police snipers on the rooftops, would people like you protest saying something along the lines of "they need a solution to cater for all the people and not just a minority"...?? Just because you may see yourself as being part of a majority doesn't mean you are right. Those who were out on the streets of Croydon on a certain night or two in August 2011 were making the majority of people out and about those nights, but were their actions correct and legal?
Oops touched a nerve there or what!, it's obvious that there can be no middle ground in this argument, I have never seen a car driver deliberately do the things you describe, nor do I believe I'm right because you say I'm in a majority, its not a club you know, I'm my own person and please don't assume I am inconsiderate to cyclists, there are radicles in both camps, pp/Hepworth is typical of the cycling lobby, I don't however know of his equivalent in the car lobby, and I am at a loss to understand why you single out mini and small sports car drivers, if your going to start pointing fingers at the types of cars that are driven inconsiderately then I drive a German marque, you know the one that every one believes are driven by someone inconsiderate to everyone else on the road, but you should remember the old saying 'you can't judge a book by its cover'.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'll still sail past you all in town, on my bike.....Fast lane or Fat lane......which one will you take?[/p][/quote]Oh please pp/Hepworth!!! you slung that comment at me this morning, there is something called common sense, which is missing in your case. Do you count the number of cars that are stood in a queue and think 'I've past that one and that one and that one', alternativly do you really think car drivers are envious of you on your bike? As I said in my last comment directed at you, what we need is a council who is willing to sit down with all parties and also involve the electorate to try and find a solution that takes into account the needs of ALL, and not just a minority.[/p][/quote]If car drivers were not envious of cyclists getting past them, then answer me this:- - why do a disproportionate number of New Mini drivers and small sports car drivers see a cyclist in their rear view mirros and pull to the left as close to the kerb as possible? - Why do a number of York's car drivers sit in a traffic queue hugging the kerb to prevent cyclists getting pas, even occupying a cycle lane in the process? - Why do motorists waiting near Micklegate Bar (heading outbound) see a cyclist approaching in their rear view mirros and then decide to proceed into the narrow arch and move to the left as much as possible so as to block the cycle lane? ... and most importantly... - why did a number of car drivers, including those who have never used the road during that period of time, protest so vociferously about a cycle lane being put along Water End which got bikes past all the queuing cars to the head of the traffic queue? ... If that is not the actions of people being jealous of cyclists 'getting past', then I'd love to know what is!! And as for the "a minority" comment, think about this:- certain countries in Africa are riddled with gang culture, hijacking, raping, kidnaps, and gun crime, to the point that people who commit such acts are in the majority. If sudden new rules came in which meant anybody committing such acts could be shot on the scene by police snipers on the rooftops, would people like you protest saying something along the lines of "they need a solution to cater for all the people and not just a minority"...?? Just because you may see yourself as being part of a majority doesn't mean you are right. Those who were out on the streets of Croydon on a certain night or two in August 2011 were making the majority of people out and about those nights, but were their actions correct and legal?[/p][/quote]Oops touched a nerve there or what!, it's obvious that there can be no middle ground in this argument, I have never seen a car driver deliberately do the things you describe, nor do I believe I'm right because you say I'm in a majority, its not a club you know, I'm my own person and please don't assume I am inconsiderate to cyclists, there are radicles in both camps, pp/Hepworth is typical of the cycling lobby, I don't however know of his equivalent in the car lobby, and I am at a loss to understand why you single out mini and small sports car drivers, if your going to start pointing fingers at the types of cars that are driven inconsiderately then I drive a German marque, you know the one that every one believes are driven by someone inconsiderate to everyone else on the road, but you should remember the old saying 'you can't judge a book by its cover'. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -58

7:55am Mon 14 Apr 14

non pedalling pete says...

BAN B.M.W'S
BAN B.M.W'S non pedalling pete
  • Score: 1

8:18am Mon 14 Apr 14

the original Homer says...

Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law!

Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car).

If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place.

I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.
Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law! Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car). If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place. I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity. the original Homer
  • Score: 3

8:26am Mon 14 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

the original Homer wrote:
Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law!

Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car).

If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place.

I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.
Mr Lightowler is driving a Peugeot 307, chances are he has broken down and is signalling to the AA man just out of shot that he needs rescuing.
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law! Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car). If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place. I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.[/p][/quote]Mr Lightowler is driving a Peugeot 307, chances are he has broken down and is signalling to the AA man just out of shot that he needs rescuing. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: 3

9:17am Mon 14 Apr 14

the original Homer says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
the original Homer wrote:
Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law!

Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car).

If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place.

I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.
Mr Lightowler is driving a Peugeot 307, chances are he has broken down and is signalling to the AA man just out of shot that he needs rescuing.
Looks more like a VW to me, are you sure it's a Peugeot 307?
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law! Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car). If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place. I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.[/p][/quote]Mr Lightowler is driving a Peugeot 307, chances are he has broken down and is signalling to the AA man just out of shot that he needs rescuing.[/p][/quote]Looks more like a VW to me, are you sure it's a Peugeot 307? the original Homer
  • Score: 0

9:41am Mon 14 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

the original Homer wrote:
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
the original Homer wrote:
Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law!

Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car).

If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place.

I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.
Mr Lightowler is driving a Peugeot 307, chances are he has broken down and is signalling to the AA man just out of shot that he needs rescuing.
Looks more like a VW to me, are you sure it's a Peugeot 307?
You are correct sir.
I retract my previous statement.
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: Mr Lightowler legally crossed the bridge - and then immediately broke the law! Both hands off the wheel, so let's assume he's parked (otherwise he's not in proper control of his car). If he is parked, then it's on double yellow lines, and in a dangerous place. I hope the Press didn't incite him to do that for a photo opportunity.[/p][/quote]Mr Lightowler is driving a Peugeot 307, chances are he has broken down and is signalling to the AA man just out of shot that he needs rescuing.[/p][/quote]Looks more like a VW to me, are you sure it's a Peugeot 307?[/p][/quote]You are correct sir. I retract my previous statement. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: 0

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