Council appeal over A64 improvement plans

Council appeal over A64 improvement plans

Council appeal over A64 improvement plans

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YORK council is to be asked to throw its weight behind plans for improvements on the A64 between the city and the coast.

The council’s Cabinet Member for Transport, Planning and Sustainability is to be presented with a draft Memorandum of Understanding to support the scheme to improve east-west links at a meeting next week.

If approved the document will show the council’s support for a York, North Yorkshire and East Riding Local Enterprise Partnership strategy to be submitted to the government this month.

The plan follows a £50 million growth fund bid put forward in November on behalf of City of York Council, North Yorkshire County Council, Ryedale District Council and Scarborough Borough Council, who are promoting this project with the Highways Agency to the York North Yorkshire and East Riding Local Enterprise Partnership for inclusion in its Strategic Economic Plan (SEP).

A decision on the growth fund allocation is expected by Government in the summer.

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8:36am Fri 7 Mar 14

Shouter says...

If the City of York council gets involved, then the whole of the A64 will become a 20mph limit!
If the City of York council gets involved, then the whole of the A64 will become a 20mph limit! Shouter
  • Score: -29

8:56am Fri 7 Mar 14

A19A64 says...

I hope that whatever improvements are made result in better value for money than the £270,000 squandered on providing 700 metres of `hard standing` between the Highwayman cafe & Hazelbush crossroads.
I hope that whatever improvements are made result in better value for money than the £270,000 squandered on providing 700 metres of `hard standing` between the Highwayman cafe & Hazelbush crossroads. A19A64
  • Score: 21

9:33am Fri 7 Mar 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..
I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around.. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 9

9:48am Fri 7 Mar 14

greenmonkey says...

If they want to reduce accidents simple measure would be reduce the speed limit to 60mph at Castle Howard junction and the turning off to Kirkham at Whitwell on the hill. A lorry or bus can easily mask a car in the outside lane travelling at speed and in the dark a lorry or tractor and trailer can be easily become invisible waiting in the centre to turn with its tail sticking out into the road. A lot of congestion seems to be caused heading out from York by traffic waiting to turn right towards Stockton on forest or Sand Hutton and then you get stuff being let out from the side road to Towthorpe. Sort this out with turning or filter lanes and you would have a relatively cheap solution.
If they want to reduce accidents simple measure would be reduce the speed limit to 60mph at Castle Howard junction and the turning off to Kirkham at Whitwell on the hill. A lorry or bus can easily mask a car in the outside lane travelling at speed and in the dark a lorry or tractor and trailer can be easily become invisible waiting in the centre to turn with its tail sticking out into the road. A lot of congestion seems to be caused heading out from York by traffic waiting to turn right towards Stockton on forest or Sand Hutton and then you get stuff being let out from the side road to Towthorpe. Sort this out with turning or filter lanes and you would have a relatively cheap solution. greenmonkey
  • Score: 3

10:12am Fri 7 Mar 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

This sounds like a good idea until you realise that the Cabinet Member for Transport and Planning is the one and only David Merrett, AKA The Ferret.

I think the best we can hope for is to reduce the duel carriage way sections of the A64 to single lanes with a 20mph limit, and also restrict access to Whitwell Hill between the hours of 10:30- 17:00 with use of ANPR cameras and badly placed signs donated by the AA under project shoestring.
This sounds like a good idea until you realise that the Cabinet Member for Transport and Planning is the one and only David Merrett, AKA The Ferret. I think the best we can hope for is to reduce the duel carriage way sections of the A64 to single lanes with a 20mph limit, and also restrict access to Whitwell Hill between the hours of 10:30- 17:00 with use of ANPR cameras and badly placed signs donated by the AA under project shoestring. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -36

11:59am Fri 7 Mar 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

greenmonkey wrote:
If they want to reduce accidents simple measure would be reduce the speed limit to 60mph at Castle Howard junction and the turning off to Kirkham at Whitwell on the hill. A lorry or bus can easily mask a car in the outside lane travelling at speed and in the dark a lorry or tractor and trailer can be easily become invisible waiting in the centre to turn with its tail sticking out into the road. A lot of congestion seems to be caused heading out from York by traffic waiting to turn right towards Stockton on forest or Sand Hutton and then you get stuff being let out from the side road to Towthorpe. Sort this out with turning or filter lanes and you would have a relatively cheap solution.
I admit that taking that turn to Kirkham the other day for the first time was a nightmare... it seemed wrong slowing down in a fast lane to a sudden stop to turn right. While i think you are lucky to get up to 60mph on the A64 anyway i'd suggest that something is done about those turn offs. After all widening the carriage way to allow a turning lane is more then feasible. I also think due to the slower drivers on the A64.. Some at 40mph that area is used for a mass overtaking zone. People floor it simply to get past as many cars as possible. That’s hardly safe... i like what they have done out towards Selby.. by simply providing a wider road that allows overtaking safely (one side at a time) it reduces traffic. If there is a caravan or lorry they could simply move over a tad and others could pass safely at caution. This could reduce the mayhem on the dual carriageway sections.
[quote][p][bold]greenmonkey[/bold] wrote: If they want to reduce accidents simple measure would be reduce the speed limit to 60mph at Castle Howard junction and the turning off to Kirkham at Whitwell on the hill. A lorry or bus can easily mask a car in the outside lane travelling at speed and in the dark a lorry or tractor and trailer can be easily become invisible waiting in the centre to turn with its tail sticking out into the road. A lot of congestion seems to be caused heading out from York by traffic waiting to turn right towards Stockton on forest or Sand Hutton and then you get stuff being let out from the side road to Towthorpe. Sort this out with turning or filter lanes and you would have a relatively cheap solution.[/p][/quote]I admit that taking that turn to Kirkham the other day for the first time was a nightmare... it seemed wrong slowing down in a fast lane to a sudden stop to turn right. While i think you are lucky to get up to 60mph on the A64 anyway i'd suggest that something is done about those turn offs. After all widening the carriage way to allow a turning lane is more then feasible. I also think due to the slower drivers on the A64.. Some at 40mph that area is used for a mass overtaking zone. People floor it simply to get past as many cars as possible. That’s hardly safe... i like what they have done out towards Selby.. by simply providing a wider road that allows overtaking safely (one side at a time) it reduces traffic. If there is a caravan or lorry they could simply move over a tad and others could pass safely at caution. This could reduce the mayhem on the dual carriageway sections. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 7

3:48pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Ninja9 says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..
Do you mean the Hopgrove roundabout?
The Monks Cross one isn't on the A64, it's on the Ring Road.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..[/p][/quote]Do you mean the Hopgrove roundabout? The Monks Cross one isn't on the A64, it's on the Ring Road. Ninja9
  • Score: 4

3:52pm Fri 7 Mar 14

JHardacre says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..
"Queued" even.

It's not the roundabout/traffic lights at Hopgrove that cause the queuing, it's the fact that the road is single carriageway on the Scarborough side of it.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..[/p][/quote]"Queued" even. It's not the roundabout/traffic lights at Hopgrove that cause the queuing, it's the fact that the road is single carriageway on the Scarborough side of it. JHardacre
  • Score: 8

5:33pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Alf Garnett says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..
Cued at Monks' Cross, snookered at Clifton Moor.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..[/p][/quote]Cued at Monks' Cross, snookered at Clifton Moor. Alf Garnett
  • Score: 4

7:17pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Alf Garnett wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..
Cued at Monks' Cross, snookered at Clifton Moor.
Hahaha I don't know what it's classed as. Just the new layout one for Scarborough. The one with 18 lanes and 55 traffic lights.
[quote][p][bold]Alf Garnett[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..[/p][/quote]Cued at Monks' Cross, snookered at Clifton Moor.[/p][/quote]Hahaha I don't know what it's classed as. Just the new layout one for Scarborough. The one with 18 lanes and 55 traffic lights. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 3

7:20pm Fri 7 Mar 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

JHardacre wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..
"Queued" even.

It's not the roundabout/traffic lights at Hopgrove that cause the queuing, it's the fact that the road is single carriageway on the Scarborough side of it.
Or the fact cars slow down to enter a single carriage way? If it was flowing at say 50 with a junction joining for those who have come from the Clifton moor side? After all once you pass the first 2 miles it flows again.
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: I see this as a good thing if it is designed and planned by the right people. Take that round about off at monk x and put a fly over in. Dual lane better areas. Make overtaking zones for when caravans are doing 40mph. This could boost Scarborough and it needs it... I've been cued before the monks x roundabout on a sunny day before and just turned around..[/p][/quote]"Queued" even. It's not the roundabout/traffic lights at Hopgrove that cause the queuing, it's the fact that the road is single carriageway on the Scarborough side of it.[/p][/quote]Or the fact cars slow down to enter a single carriage way? If it was flowing at say 50 with a junction joining for those who have come from the Clifton moor side? After all once you pass the first 2 miles it flows again. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 1

7:32pm Fri 7 Mar 14

spottycow says...

WEVE got ROBERT GOODWILL as our MP and hes done SWEET FA regarding the A64 DONT COME KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR FOR OUR VOTE GOODWILL . YOUR A FRAUD . GIVE ME ANNE MAC ANYTIME
WEVE got ROBERT GOODWILL as our MP and hes done SWEET FA regarding the A64 DONT COME KNOCKING ON OUR DOOR FOR OUR VOTE GOODWILL . YOUR A FRAUD . GIVE ME ANNE MAC ANYTIME spottycow
  • Score: 1

10:34pm Fri 7 Mar 14

bolero says...

The wrong guy is being asked for support on this one. He would turn the whole carriageway into a cycle track.
The wrong guy is being asked for support on this one. He would turn the whole carriageway into a cycle track. bolero
  • Score: -28

10:44pm Fri 7 Mar 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
This sounds like a good idea until you realise that the Cabinet Member for Transport and Planning is the one and only David Merrett, AKA The Ferret.

I think the best we can hope for is to reduce the duel carriage way sections of the A64 to single lanes with a 20mph limit, and also restrict access to Whitwell Hill between the hours of 10:30- 17:00 with use of ANPR cameras and badly placed signs donated by the AA under project shoestring.
-37....is that the best you can do?
It was on +20 earlier, I would have expected at least -100.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: This sounds like a good idea until you realise that the Cabinet Member for Transport and Planning is the one and only David Merrett, AKA The Ferret. I think the best we can hope for is to reduce the duel carriage way sections of the A64 to single lanes with a 20mph limit, and also restrict access to Whitwell Hill between the hours of 10:30- 17:00 with use of ANPR cameras and badly placed signs donated by the AA under project shoestring.[/p][/quote]-37....is that the best you can do? It was on +20 earlier, I would have expected at least -100. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -26

3:43am Sat 8 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

Shouter wrote:
If the City of York council gets involved, then the whole of the A64 will become a 20mph limit!
Not if they tie up Anna Semelyn to a chair and lock her in a back room so she cannot corrupt proceedings.
[quote][p][bold]Shouter[/bold] wrote: If the City of York council gets involved, then the whole of the A64 will become a 20mph limit![/p][/quote]Not if they tie up Anna Semelyn to a chair and lock her in a back room so she cannot corrupt proceedings. Magicman!
  • Score: -26

3:44am Sat 8 Mar 14

Magicman! says...

A19A64 wrote:
I hope that whatever improvements are made result in better value for money than the £270,000 squandered on providing 700 metres of `hard standing` between the Highwayman cafe & Hazelbush crossroads.
and let's not forget the £11 MILLION spend at Hopgrove for a couple of steel gantries and some traffic lights.
[quote][p][bold]A19A64[/bold] wrote: I hope that whatever improvements are made result in better value for money than the £270,000 squandered on providing 700 metres of `hard standing` between the Highwayman cafe & Hazelbush crossroads.[/p][/quote]and let's not forget the £11 MILLION spend at Hopgrove for a couple of steel gantries and some traffic lights. Magicman!
  • Score: 0

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