York Conservatives call for cut in council funding for trade unions

York Press: Coun Chris Steward Coun Chris Steward

THE leader of York’s Conservatives has called for a cut in council funding for trade unions – but city leaders say this would be an attack on staff and could increase costs.

Coun Chris Steward, who leads City of York Council’s Tory group, claimed the cost of supporting union activities at the authority – which is set to make 240 job cuts over the next two years as it looks to save £23 million – went more than £20,000 over its £107,000 budget this year.

Coun Steward, pictured, said the cost of office space for unions would see the bill rise to about £150,000. He said: “This should be paid for by union members through their subscriptions rather than council taxpayers — we cannot afford to spend £150,000 a year now on trade union time when this money should instead be used for basic services.”

Coun Dafydd Williams, the Labour authority’s cabinet member for finance, performance and customer service, said union time was required by employment law, its cost had been “consistent” for several years and removing it could increase lost working hours. He said the council wanted to work with staff representatives during “a difficult time of redundancies”.

He said: “This is a recycled attack which reflects the importance any Conservative council would place on its workforce – it would be a huge backwards step were they ever in a position to implement this proposal.”

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10:11am Fri 21 Feb 14

chelk says...

Why should my Council Tax be used to pay for unions time when essential services are being cut and Council Tax continuing to rise if you want a union pay for it yourself
Why should my Council Tax be used to pay for unions time when essential services are being cut and Council Tax continuing to rise if you want a union pay for it yourself chelk
  • Score: -16

10:14am Fri 21 Feb 14

acomblass says...

The Council are behind the times on this one. When I worked for a large York private company they did away with paying for the Chief Shop Steward's time in the mid 1990s. There are many ways of complying with employment law rather than paying this amount of money.
Union membership at the Council has been falling so what is the amount per union employee ie divide £127000 by the number of employees in the union.
The Council are behind the times on this one. When I worked for a large York private company they did away with paying for the Chief Shop Steward's time in the mid 1990s. There are many ways of complying with employment law rather than paying this amount of money. Union membership at the Council has been falling so what is the amount per union employee ie divide £127000 by the number of employees in the union. acomblass
  • Score: -11

10:22am Fri 21 Feb 14

Kelvar says...

If you want a Union - Pay for it yourselves!! Don't use MY Council Tax to do it...(Union did me NO GOOD when I needed them!) I have no time for them at all..waste of money
If you want a Union - Pay for it yourselves!! Don't use MY Council Tax to do it...(Union did me NO GOOD when I needed them!) I have no time for them at all..waste of money Kelvar
  • Score: -8

10:32am Fri 21 Feb 14

asd says...

Hey Tory boys why should my tax pay for the wealthy to have a TAX of 10 % cut you bunch of hypocrites. Yes Unions should be self funding but why am I still bailing the city and the rich who brought this country to its knees gambling on real estates in USA huh.
Hey Tory boys why should my tax pay for the wealthy to have a TAX of 10 % cut you bunch of hypocrites. Yes Unions should be self funding but why am I still bailing the city and the rich who brought this country to its knees gambling on real estates in USA huh. asd
  • Score: 9

10:34am Fri 21 Feb 14

piemagico says...

It would be good if the Press could dig a bit deeper and get to the truth here. How do private sector companies manage to comply with employment law without paying for union time? If this is a temporary cost to deal with the redundancy phase then readers might be more understanding.
It would be good if the Press could dig a bit deeper and get to the truth here. How do private sector companies manage to comply with employment law without paying for union time? If this is a temporary cost to deal with the redundancy phase then readers might be more understanding. piemagico
  • Score: 5

10:34am Fri 21 Feb 14

Whistlejacket says...

Cllr Williams is being economical with the truth here, as he doubless knows.
Whilst there is a requirement to give staff reasonable time off during working hours for union activity...
"There is no statutory requirement that union members or representatives be paid for time off taken on trade union activities". (ACAS guidance).

There is certainly no requirement for the Council to use our money to pay for full time union activists, their offices and associated admin expenses.
Cllr Williams is being economical with the truth here, as he doubless knows. Whilst there is a requirement to give staff reasonable time off during working hours for union activity... "There is no statutory requirement that union members or representatives be paid for time off taken on trade union activities". (ACAS guidance). There is certainly no requirement for the Council to use our money to pay for full time union activists, their offices and associated admin expenses. Whistlejacket
  • Score: -14

10:36am Fri 21 Feb 14

sjm43 says...

Great. After momentous historical advancements following years of struggle and development we are about to give them all up. Will the Headlines read: 2014 - Scotland separates itself from the UK
2014 - Unions dissolved
2015 - NHS dissolved
2016 - Slavery returns to UK
Great. After momentous historical advancements following years of struggle and development we are about to give them all up. Will the Headlines read: 2014 - Scotland separates itself from the UK 2014 - Unions dissolved 2015 - NHS dissolved 2016 - Slavery returns to UK sjm43
  • Score: 25

10:36am Fri 21 Feb 14

HoofHearteds says...

Why should the UK tax payer fund a housing bubble with Billions being pumped into the "Right to bribe (buy)"? Can we have a choice how we spend them millions? Or do we just have to sit and watch the tories fuel a false housing growth bubble to appease the housing klepto's for the next election?
Why should the UK tax payer fund a housing bubble with Billions being pumped into the "Right to bribe (buy)"? Can we have a choice how we spend them millions? Or do we just have to sit and watch the tories fuel a false housing growth bubble to appease the housing klepto's for the next election? HoofHearteds
  • Score: 15

10:40am Fri 21 Feb 14

The Great Buda says...

piemagico wrote:
It would be good if the Press could dig a bit deeper and get to the truth here. How do private sector companies manage to comply with employment law without paying for union time? If this is a temporary cost to deal with the redundancy phase then readers might be more understanding.
Private companies DO have to pay for Union time.

This is another non-story from the Press designed to increase the click-rate of the website.
[quote][p][bold]piemagico[/bold] wrote: It would be good if the Press could dig a bit deeper and get to the truth here. How do private sector companies manage to comply with employment law without paying for union time? If this is a temporary cost to deal with the redundancy phase then readers might be more understanding.[/p][/quote]Private companies DO have to pay for Union time. This is another non-story from the Press designed to increase the click-rate of the website. The Great Buda
  • Score: 13

10:56am Fri 21 Feb 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

I'm in a union and I pay my subs out of my own pocket. Perhaps I should be able to claim them back out of my council tax? After all, if the council is using the money I give it to pay union members' subs in its own ranks, why shouldn't it pay mine as well?
I'm in a union and I pay my subs out of my own pocket. Perhaps I should be able to claim them back out of my council tax? After all, if the council is using the money I give it to pay union members' subs in its own ranks, why shouldn't it pay mine as well? Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: -7

11:08am Fri 21 Feb 14

Dr Brian says...

Coun Chris Steward would be better keeping his mouth shut not say anything controversial - a massive amount of people detest Alexander and his administration the Tories and Lib Dems really just need to sit back and point out the failings of this administration and the council will be there's in May 2015.

I hate the Tories but ANYTHING will be better than smug faced Alexander and his lieutenants!
Coun Chris Steward would be better keeping his mouth shut not say anything controversial - a massive amount of people detest Alexander and his administration the Tories and Lib Dems really just need to sit back and point out the failings of this administration and the council will be there's in May 2015. I hate the Tories but ANYTHING will be better than smug faced Alexander and his lieutenants! Dr Brian
  • Score: -10

12:00pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Micklegate says...

Dr Brian wrote:
Coun Chris Steward would be better keeping his mouth shut not say anything controversial - a massive amount of people detest Alexander and his administration the Tories and Lib Dems really just need to sit back and point out the failings of this administration and the council will be there's in May 2015.

I hate the Tories but ANYTHING will be better than smug faced Alexander and his lieutenants!
Do you really think saying the council shouldn't pay over £100k to the Trade Unions is controversial? Surely if you're in a union you pay a subscription to cover the union time, I don't see why the council should pay for it. Perhaps my employer could start picking up my golf club and gym memberships?
[quote][p][bold]Dr Brian[/bold] wrote: Coun Chris Steward would be better keeping his mouth shut not say anything controversial - a massive amount of people detest Alexander and his administration the Tories and Lib Dems really just need to sit back and point out the failings of this administration and the council will be there's in May 2015. I hate the Tories but ANYTHING will be better than smug faced Alexander and his lieutenants![/p][/quote]Do you really think saying the council shouldn't pay over £100k to the Trade Unions is controversial? Surely if you're in a union you pay a subscription to cover the union time, I don't see why the council should pay for it. Perhaps my employer could start picking up my golf club and gym memberships? Micklegate
  • Score: -18

12:04pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Micklegate says...

sjm43 wrote:
Great. After momentous historical advancements following years of struggle and development we are about to give them all up. Will the Headlines read: 2014 - Scotland separates itself from the UK
2014 - Unions dissolved
2015 - NHS dissolved
2016 - Slavery returns to UK
How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to!
[quote][p][bold]sjm43[/bold] wrote: Great. After momentous historical advancements following years of struggle and development we are about to give them all up. Will the Headlines read: 2014 - Scotland separates itself from the UK 2014 - Unions dissolved 2015 - NHS dissolved 2016 - Slavery returns to UK[/p][/quote]How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to! Micklegate
  • Score: -13

12:39pm Fri 21 Feb 14

sjm43 says...

Micklegate says: How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to!

I used to work at the Citizen's Advice Bureau which is also fully funded by the Council. You would not believe the amount of people that used to come in there suffering from difficult employment situations.
Micklegate says: How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to! I used to work at the Citizen's Advice Bureau which is also fully funded by the Council. You would not believe the amount of people that used to come in there suffering from difficult employment situations. sjm43
  • Score: 12

1:29pm Fri 21 Feb 14

E=MC^2 says...

Unions are only doing the job which an employee focused and competent HR dept and management should be doing in the first place. They have significant experience and knowledge in employment law etc to help solve problems before they escalate and provide a central point for wage negotiation. Unions are of net benefit to an employer as was found a few years back by a government report on the value of Unions in the workplace.
Unions are only doing the job which an employee focused and competent HR dept and management should be doing in the first place. They have significant experience and knowledge in employment law etc to help solve problems before they escalate and provide a central point for wage negotiation. Unions are of net benefit to an employer as was found a few years back by a government report on the value of Unions in the workplace. E=MC^2
  • Score: 12

1:58pm Fri 21 Feb 14

sjm43 says...

E=MC2

By the same logic then, do you think we should close down the Citizen's Advice Bureau on the premise that all employers, lawyers, property owners etc. will be bound to do the right thing? Do you think that too is a waste of hard-earned tax-payers money? Many of the Adviser's are Voluntary in order that the Council CAN save money - but the cost of the telephone costs needed!!!!

I am sure you can see that there needs to be some kind of overseer in the process - and am myself puzzled because in the future a Government could decide to refuse a Local Council either the funds or permission to run a Citizen's Advice Bureau...??
E=MC2 By the same logic then, do you think we should close down the Citizen's Advice Bureau on the premise that all employers, lawyers, property owners etc. will be bound to do the right thing? Do you think that too is a waste of hard-earned tax-payers money? Many of the Adviser's are Voluntary in order that the Council CAN save money - but the cost of the telephone costs needed!!!! I am sure you can see that there needs to be some kind of overseer in the process - and am myself puzzled because in the future a Government could decide to refuse a Local Council either the funds or permission to run a Citizen's Advice Bureau...?? sjm43
  • Score: 11

2:11pm Fri 21 Feb 14

YorkPatrol says...

asd wrote:
Hey Tory boys why should my tax pay for the wealthy to have a TAX of 10 % cut you bunch of hypocrites. Yes Unions should be self funding but why am I still bailing the city and the rich who brought this country to its knees gambling on real estates in USA huh.
The running of this country is in a very venerable state with misguided people like you given a vote…

Do you really believe what you said?? Frightening…..
[quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote: Hey Tory boys why should my tax pay for the wealthy to have a TAX of 10 % cut you bunch of hypocrites. Yes Unions should be self funding but why am I still bailing the city and the rich who brought this country to its knees gambling on real estates in USA huh.[/p][/quote]The running of this country is in a very venerable state with misguided people like you given a vote… Do you really believe what you said?? Frightening….. YorkPatrol
  • Score: -10

2:42pm Fri 21 Feb 14

spiritofyork says...

No surprsie when we have hardline communists running our city. There is NO NEED for trade unions. Just be thankful you have a job and do as your told. if not someone else will.

Glad York will be turning Blue (and purple) next year. :)
No surprsie when we have hardline communists running our city. There is NO NEED for trade unions. Just be thankful you have a job and do as your told. if not someone else will. Glad York will be turning Blue (and purple) next year. :) spiritofyork
  • Score: -32

5:56pm Fri 21 Feb 14

DaveBruebeck says...

E=MC^2 wrote:
Unions are only doing the job which an employee focused and competent HR dept and management should be doing in the first place. They have significant experience and knowledge in employment law etc to help solve problems before they escalate and provide a central point for wage negotiation. Unions are of net benefit to an employer as was found a few years back by a government report on the value of Unions in the workplace.
Surely it's slightly early to be on the beer?

That said, it's a funny post that brought a smile to my face on a dreary Friday afternoon.

Thanks.
[quote][p][bold]E=MC^2[/bold] wrote: Unions are only doing the job which an employee focused and competent HR dept and management should be doing in the first place. They have significant experience and knowledge in employment law etc to help solve problems before they escalate and provide a central point for wage negotiation. Unions are of net benefit to an employer as was found a few years back by a government report on the value of Unions in the workplace.[/p][/quote]Surely it's slightly early to be on the beer? That said, it's a funny post that brought a smile to my face on a dreary Friday afternoon. Thanks. DaveBruebeck
  • Score: -10

7:18pm Fri 21 Feb 14

gwen4me says...

spiritofyork wrote:
No surprsie when we have hardline communists running our city. There is NO NEED for trade unions. Just be thankful you have a job and do as your told. if not someone else will.

Glad York will be turning Blue (and purple) next year. :)
Yeah, buckle down and shut up. And just lift that cute little **** a little higher..
[quote][p][bold]spiritofyork[/bold] wrote: No surprsie when we have hardline communists running our city. There is NO NEED for trade unions. Just be thankful you have a job and do as your told. if not someone else will. Glad York will be turning Blue (and purple) next year. :)[/p][/quote]Yeah, buckle down and shut up. And just lift that cute little **** a little higher.. gwen4me
  • Score: 6

7:55pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Funny that comments are still open on this despite personal attacks on Coun Steward, yet the Coun Semlyen story got shut down?
Funny that comments are still open on this despite personal attacks on Coun Steward, yet the Coun Semlyen story got shut down? Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -3

2:22am Sat 22 Feb 14

Magicman! says...

Hah, a Tory wanting to cut funding to a trade union, whoever saw that coming!
Hah, a Tory wanting to cut funding to a trade union, whoever saw that coming! Magicman!
  • Score: 16

9:02am Sat 22 Feb 14

mel_drew says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Funny that comments are still open on this despite personal attacks on Coun Steward, yet the Coun Semlyen story got shut down?
Actually, I think there have been surprisingly few personal attacks on Coun Steward in this thread. Valid comments on his action and opinion, yes, but very little of a personal nature.

As for Semlyen, she's almost immune from published criticism because any article containing her name will attract so much bile and hate that the Press will almost instantly shut it down to comments.
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Funny that comments are still open on this despite personal attacks on Coun Steward, yet the Coun Semlyen story got shut down?[/p][/quote]Actually, I think there have been surprisingly few personal attacks on Coun Steward in this thread. Valid comments on his action and opinion, yes, but very little of a personal nature. As for Semlyen, she's almost immune from published criticism because any article containing her name will attract so much bile and hate that the Press will almost instantly shut it down to comments. mel_drew
  • Score: -13

9:19am Sat 22 Feb 14

CaroleBaines says...

piemagico wrote:
It would be good if the Press could dig a bit deeper and get to the truth here. How do private sector companies manage to comply with employment law without paying for union time? If this is a temporary cost to deal with the redundancy phase then readers might be more understanding.
Press to dig a bit deeper?...hahahahaha
! Oh - I needed a good laugh this morning! Thanks for that.
[quote][p][bold]piemagico[/bold] wrote: It would be good if the Press could dig a bit deeper and get to the truth here. How do private sector companies manage to comply with employment law without paying for union time? If this is a temporary cost to deal with the redundancy phase then readers might be more understanding.[/p][/quote]Press to dig a bit deeper?...hahahahaha ! Oh - I needed a good laugh this morning! Thanks for that. CaroleBaines
  • Score: -11

10:57am Sat 22 Feb 14

eeoodares says...

sjm43 wrote:
Great. After momentous historical advancements following years of struggle and development we are about to give them all up. Will the Headlines read: 2014 - Scotland separates itself from the UK
2014 - Unions dissolved
2015 - NHS dissolved
2016 - Slavery returns to UK
I think Labour summed it up in the note they left when they lost power:

"We spent all the money, there is nothing left"
[quote][p][bold]sjm43[/bold] wrote: Great. After momentous historical advancements following years of struggle and development we are about to give them all up. Will the Headlines read: 2014 - Scotland separates itself from the UK 2014 - Unions dissolved 2015 - NHS dissolved 2016 - Slavery returns to UK[/p][/quote]I think Labour summed it up in the note they left when they lost power: "We spent all the money, there is nothing left" eeoodares
  • Score: -13

11:01am Sat 22 Feb 14

eeoodares says...

sjm43 wrote:
Micklegate says: How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to!

I used to work at the Citizen's Advice Bureau which is also fully funded by the Council. You would not believe the amount of people that used to come in there suffering from difficult employment situations.
I think Labour summed it up in the note they left when they lost power:

"We spent all the money, there is nothing left"
[quote][p][bold]sjm43[/bold] wrote: Micklegate says: How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to! I used to work at the Citizen's Advice Bureau which is also fully funded by the Council. You would not believe the amount of people that used to come in there suffering from difficult employment situations.[/p][/quote]I think Labour summed it up in the note they left when they lost power: "We spent all the money, there is nothing left" eeoodares
  • Score: -14

11:04am Sat 22 Feb 14

eeoodares says...

sjm43 wrote:
Micklegate says: How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to!

I used to work at the Citizen's Advice Bureau which is also fully funded by the Council. You would not believe the amount of people that used to come in there suffering from difficult employment situations.
Are you confused sjm43? Do you think that the Citizens Advice Bureau and the Unions are the same thing?

If you want to be a member of a gym you pay for it, if you want to be a member of a golf club you pay for it, if you want to be a member of a Union you pay for it.
[quote][p][bold]sjm43[/bold] wrote: Micklegate says: How is someone suggesting the council not paying for union time anything to do with dissolving them? Most residents probably don't think the council should pay for employees to have a cinema pass or steak and chips on a Friday, but it doesn't mean we think those activities should be banned......it's a very simple concept - pay for it with your own money like everyone else has to! I used to work at the Citizen's Advice Bureau which is also fully funded by the Council. You would not believe the amount of people that used to come in there suffering from difficult employment situations.[/p][/quote]Are you confused sjm43? Do you think that the Citizens Advice Bureau and the Unions are the same thing? If you want to be a member of a gym you pay for it, if you want to be a member of a golf club you pay for it, if you want to be a member of a Union you pay for it. eeoodares
  • Score: -9

11:05am Sat 22 Feb 14

eeoodares says...

E=MC^2 wrote:
Unions are only doing the job which an employee focused and competent HR dept and management should be doing in the first place. They have significant experience and knowledge in employment law etc to help solve problems before they escalate and provide a central point for wage negotiation. Unions are of net benefit to an employer as was found a few years back by a government report on the value of Unions in the workplace.
A government report paid for by a Union backed government!
[quote][p][bold]E=MC^2[/bold] wrote: Unions are only doing the job which an employee focused and competent HR dept and management should be doing in the first place. They have significant experience and knowledge in employment law etc to help solve problems before they escalate and provide a central point for wage negotiation. Unions are of net benefit to an employer as was found a few years back by a government report on the value of Unions in the workplace.[/p][/quote]A government report paid for by a Union backed government! eeoodares
  • Score: -11

7:24pm Sat 22 Feb 14

tommytman says...

think i.ve had enough of listening to all this **** lets just ban unions the welfare state NHS and lets get out on the streets survival of the fittest anything goes but be warned you right wing tories anything anything goes see if the old etonians will be defending you on the street corners
think i.ve had enough of listening to all this **** lets just ban unions the welfare state NHS and lets get out on the streets survival of the fittest anything goes but be warned you right wing tories anything anything goes see if the old etonians will be defending you on the street corners tommytman
  • Score: -4

11:19pm Sat 22 Feb 14

inthesticks says...

This mans recent opinions in YP are increasingly worrying.
Working people - Don`t ever forget that businesses, public and private, do not have your best interests at heart. Do not forget that THEY pay for HR departments who will act in the best interests of the company - not you.
The union will represent you if you are treated unfairly. You will get free legal representation should you need it. Don`t think that any company will care for you as in the old days of caring employers like Rowntrees, Ben Johnsons and Moores.
Unions are not some wicked anti work establishment . They ARE the workforce, run for them and by them and without unions in the last century none of us would have the working conditions that we have now.
This mans recent opinions in YP are increasingly worrying. Working people - Don`t ever forget that businesses, public and private, do not have your best interests at heart. Do not forget that THEY pay for HR departments who will act in the best interests of the company - not you. The union will represent you if you are treated unfairly. You will get free legal representation should you need it. Don`t think that any company will care for you as in the old days of caring employers like Rowntrees, Ben Johnsons and Moores. Unions are not some wicked anti work establishment . They ARE the workforce, run for them and by them and without unions in the last century none of us would have the working conditions that we have now. inthesticks
  • Score: 13

12:07pm Sun 23 Feb 14

tommytman says...

inthesticks wrote:
This mans recent opinions in YP are increasingly worrying.
Working people - Don`t ever forget that businesses, public and private, do not have your best interests at heart. Do not forget that THEY pay for HR departments who will act in the best interests of the company - not you.
The union will represent you if you are treated unfairly. You will get free legal representation should you need it. Don`t think that any company will care for you as in the old days of caring employers like Rowntrees, Ben Johnsons and Moores.
Unions are not some wicked anti work establishment . They ARE the workforce, run for them and by them and without unions in the last century none of us would have the working conditions that we have now.
at last a ray of hope was starting to get quite down, well put
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: This mans recent opinions in YP are increasingly worrying. Working people - Don`t ever forget that businesses, public and private, do not have your best interests at heart. Do not forget that THEY pay for HR departments who will act in the best interests of the company - not you. The union will represent you if you are treated unfairly. You will get free legal representation should you need it. Don`t think that any company will care for you as in the old days of caring employers like Rowntrees, Ben Johnsons and Moores. Unions are not some wicked anti work establishment . They ARE the workforce, run for them and by them and without unions in the last century none of us would have the working conditions that we have now.[/p][/quote]at last a ray of hope was starting to get quite down, well put tommytman
  • Score: 18

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