Police seek to extend alcohol restrictions to Swinegate, Goodramgate and Fossgate

York Press: Police seek to extend alcohol restrictions to Swinegate, Goodramgate and Fossgate Police seek to extend alcohol restrictions to Swinegate, Goodramgate and Fossgate

RISING crime in one of York’s drinking hotspots has led to calls for tighter restrictions on the sale of alcohol in the area.

Statistics from North Yorkshire Police show the Back Swinegate area was the scene of 215 crimes last year including 51 assaults and three sexual offences.

There were 177 antisocial behaviour incidents, many of them drink-fuelled, which pulled police away from other parts of the city.

Licensing officers said violent crime, criminal damage, alcohol-related trouble and thefts in the area had increased over the last three years, and a fifth of all thefts within the Bar Walls have happened there. The area has 50 bars, pubs, restaurants and other licensed premises.

They want City of York Council’s Cumulative Impact Zone (CIZ) to be expanded to cover Back Swinegate, as well as Goodramgate and Fossgate which would make it harder for new premises to get a licence or for existing venues to stay open longer. A consultation on the issue ends next month.

A police objection to an application by Macumba, in Coffee Yard, to extend its licence which will be discussed this week showed crime in Back Swinegate peaks between midnight and 3am, with antisocial behaviour at its height between 11pm and 1am. The figures are in documents sent to the council.

PC Mick Wilkinson, York’s police licensing officer, said: “We’ve identified Back Swinegate, Goodramgate and Fossgate as areas where we can associate alcohol with crime, disorder and anti-social behaviour, which has a direct effect on policing of the city as a whole.

“We have got enough licensed premises in this area now. There are enough venues where people can go and get alcohol. Including Back Swinegate and other areas in the CIZ would not be a blanket ban.

“If a restaurant wanted to serve alcohol between 10am and 6pm, we wouldn’t have a problem with that. But it places the onus on applicants to show why a new licence would not directly affect policing.

“The figures speak for themselves. We are having to take officers away from other areas and into the city centre to deal with these incidents.”

Of the 51 assaults in the Back Swinegate area during 2013, more than half led to an injury. There were also eight burglaries, three vehicle break-ins, 112 thefts and 23 criminal damage offences.

Of the 215 crimes, 113 were committed on a Friday, Saturday or Sunday, and March was the worst month.

Jane Mowat, Safer York Partnership director, said York was unusual because of its number of city-centre homes, particularly around Back Swinegate. “Extending the CIZ is a proven method of managing levels of crime and antisocial behaviour associated with licensed premises, while also preserving quality of life for residents within that area.”

Tim Madgwick, North Yorkshire Police’s deputy chief constable, and the council’s chief executive, Kersten England, visited city centre bars and restaurants on Friday evening as part of moves to improve York’s night-time economy while tackling anti-social behaviour.

Deputy Chief Constable Madgwick said: “We are committed to maintaining the balance between the majority who want nothing more than a fun night out and the small minority determined to cause trouble.”

Ms England said bars, restaurants and other night-time venues needed to be supported as major employers creating “important revenue”, but residents’ concerns also had to be recognised.

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10:50am Mon 20 Jan 14

spiritofyork says...

Extend the CIZ to Newcastle train station.
Extend the CIZ to Newcastle train station. spiritofyork

11:28am Mon 20 Jan 14

yourkidding says...

lets hope they get it .with my work I sometimes I get down there and its nervie when they are all stood in the middle of the road,or taxis are parked in the middle waiting to pick up a very happy fare ??
lets hope they get it .with my work I sometimes I get down there and its nervie when they are all stood in the middle of the road,or taxis are parked in the middle waiting to pick up a very happy fare ?? yourkidding

11:38am Mon 20 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Well i have to say that this is daft. I always go out around this area and have seen no police vans never mind foot patrol. Not once had trouble or seen trouble. Its the nice area of town to drink in. Making an area shut earlier is not going to have an effect on that. Town is dead enough as it is. Concentrate on the dark side....
Well i have to say that this is daft. I always go out around this area and have seen no police vans never mind foot patrol. Not once had trouble or seen trouble. Its the nice area of town to drink in. Making an area shut earlier is not going to have an effect on that. Town is dead enough as it is. Concentrate on the dark side.... Archiebold the 1st

11:41am Mon 20 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

yourkidding wrote:
lets hope they get it .with my work I sometimes I get down there and its nervie when they are all stood in the middle of the road,or taxis are parked in the middle waiting to pick up a very happy fare ??
has anything ever happened to you?
[quote][p][bold]yourkidding[/bold] wrote: lets hope they get it .with my work I sometimes I get down there and its nervie when they are all stood in the middle of the road,or taxis are parked in the middle waiting to pick up a very happy fare ??[/p][/quote]has anything ever happened to you? Archiebold the 1st

11:45am Mon 20 Jan 14

readbeforeyouprint says...

The article talks only of tighter restrictions of the sale of alcohol in these areas, but does this also mean that on-street drinking is to be banned there too?
The article talks only of tighter restrictions of the sale of alcohol in these areas, but does this also mean that on-street drinking is to be banned there too? readbeforeyouprint

12:05pm Mon 20 Jan 14

TheTruthHurts says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Well i have to say that this is daft. I always go out around this area and have seen no police vans never mind foot patrol. Not once had trouble or seen trouble. Its the nice area of town to drink in. Making an area shut earlier is not going to have an effect on that. Town is dead enough as it is. Concentrate on the dark side....
I have seen some right ding dongs in the Vudu lounge.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: Well i have to say that this is daft. I always go out around this area and have seen no police vans never mind foot patrol. Not once had trouble or seen trouble. Its the nice area of town to drink in. Making an area shut earlier is not going to have an effect on that. Town is dead enough as it is. Concentrate on the dark side....[/p][/quote]I have seen some right ding dongs in the Vudu lounge. TheTruthHurts

12:44pm Mon 20 Jan 14

bolero says...

Despite warnings from the police, licences have been handed out/extended willy nilly by the authorities. Will they never listen or learn?
Despite warnings from the police, licences have been handed out/extended willy nilly by the authorities. Will they never listen or learn? bolero

12:46pm Mon 20 Jan 14

bolero says...

Despite warnings from the police the authorities have handed out/extended licences willy nilly. Will they never listen or learn?
Despite warnings from the police the authorities have handed out/extended licences willy nilly. Will they never listen or learn? bolero

1:18pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

TheTruthHurts wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote: Well i have to say that this is daft. I always go out around this area and have seen no police vans never mind foot patrol. Not once had trouble or seen trouble. Its the nice area of town to drink in. Making an area shut earlier is not going to have an effect on that. Town is dead enough as it is. Concentrate on the dark side....
I have seen some right ding dongs in the Vudu lounge.
I haven’t.. not for a long time if I’m honest. In the last 3 months I’ve had 2 friends assaulted next to salvation which is the big problem area. Recently the picture above represents how busy the area has been. Not even seen the police in the area apart from to patrol in their cars. Lets be honest there is hardly any incidents in this area that are drink related. They lie across the bridge. Limiting peoples business opportunities due to these limited incidents is stupid. They should encourage competition in the area not limit it for "incidents". Of all the years I’ve drank down there I’ve not had one altercation. I'll sick of the night angels thinking just because young people drink bad things happen. I can only liken it to people thinking every staffy will attack. It’s stupid and blown well out of proportion by people that use stereotypes.
[quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: Well i have to say that this is daft. I always go out around this area and have seen no police vans never mind foot patrol. Not once had trouble or seen trouble. Its the nice area of town to drink in. Making an area shut earlier is not going to have an effect on that. Town is dead enough as it is. Concentrate on the dark side....[/p][/quote]I have seen some right ding dongs in the Vudu lounge.[/p][/quote]I haven’t.. not for a long time if I’m honest. In the last 3 months I’ve had 2 friends assaulted next to salvation which is the big problem area. Recently the picture above represents how busy the area has been. Not even seen the police in the area apart from to patrol in their cars. Lets be honest there is hardly any incidents in this area that are drink related. They lie across the bridge. Limiting peoples business opportunities due to these limited incidents is stupid. They should encourage competition in the area not limit it for "incidents". Of all the years I’ve drank down there I’ve not had one altercation. I'll sick of the night angels thinking just because young people drink bad things happen. I can only liken it to people thinking every staffy will attack. It’s stupid and blown well out of proportion by people that use stereotypes. Archiebold the 1st

1:21pm Mon 20 Jan 14

ian923 says...

Surely Mr Madgwick should have said police will root out troublemakers rather than "maintaining the balance between those who want a fun night out and those intent on causing trouble?
Surely Mr Madgwick should have said police will root out troublemakers rather than "maintaining the balance between those who want a fun night out and those intent on causing trouble? ian923

3:03pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Knavesmire view says...

Horse has bolted as far as licencing in the area is concerned.

Never seen any trouble on the streets themselves in this area before (unlike other drinking 'hot spots' around town), nor have I seen many police on patrol round here either (probably due to them being tied up by St Martin's, Micklegate and Blake Street).

Wonder how the crime stats for this area stack up compared to others?
Horse has bolted as far as licencing in the area is concerned. Never seen any trouble on the streets themselves in this area before (unlike other drinking 'hot spots' around town), nor have I seen many police on patrol round here either (probably due to them being tied up by St Martin's, Micklegate and Blake Street). Wonder how the crime stats for this area stack up compared to others? Knavesmire view

5:14pm Mon 20 Jan 14

eeoodares says...

Swinegate and Fossgate????? really, have a wander along George Hudson Street any weekend, look at the state of the people around the Willow and finish after midnight by McDonalds. Then come back and tell me the problem is Swinegate and Fossgate.
Swinegate and Fossgate????? really, have a wander along George Hudson Street any weekend, look at the state of the people around the Willow and finish after midnight by McDonalds. Then come back and tell me the problem is Swinegate and Fossgate. eeoodares

8:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

bolero says...

It is worth noting that Ms England places the revenue earning potential of the various bars etc as a priority above her concerns for residents. So now we know.
It is worth noting that Ms England places the revenue earning potential of the various bars etc as a priority above her concerns for residents. So now we know. bolero

9:01pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Pinza-C55 says...

This is a "Drop The Dead Donkey" story. It implants the idea in the public's head that "something is being done" but last week we had plans by the council to "expand the night time economy". What will it be councillors - more late licenses or the status quo?
This is a "Drop The Dead Donkey" story. It implants the idea in the public's head that "something is being done" but last week we had plans by the council to "expand the night time economy". What will it be councillors - more late licenses or the status quo? Pinza-C55

9:57pm Mon 20 Jan 14

lacypaperdevil says...

Wrong area of town this one. Very little incidents of trouble around here now.

Also the onus should be on the bar owners, staff etc not to serve people who are worse for wear as well. How many prosecutions do we see for that infringement of the the licensing act?
Wrong area of town this one. Very little incidents of trouble around here now. Also the onus should be on the bar owners, staff etc not to serve people who are worse for wear as well. How many prosecutions do we see for that infringement of the the licensing act? lacypaperdevil

10:05pm Mon 20 Jan 14

amykathleen2005 says...

Why don't they have all the licenses contingent on developing an appropriate anti-social behavior plan?
Why don't they have all the licenses contingent on developing an appropriate anti-social behavior plan? amykathleen2005

3:49am Tue 21 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

spiritofyork wrote:
Extend the CIZ to Newcastle train station.
And Middlesbrough
[quote][p][bold]spiritofyork[/bold] wrote: Extend the CIZ to Newcastle train station.[/p][/quote]And Middlesbrough Magicman!

9:40am Tue 21 Jan 14

m dee says...

Statistics from North Yorkshire Police show the Back Swinegate area was the scene of 215 crimes last year including 51 assaults and three sexual offences.

There were 177 antisocial behaviour incidents, many of them drink-fuelled, which pulled police away from other parts of the city.

Which coupled with the several hundred call out to Macdonalds to deal with drink-fuelled customers begs the question why recently was Julia Mulligan suggesting increasing the Council Tax for York residents?
Statistics from North Yorkshire Police show the Back Swinegate area was the scene of 215 crimes last year including 51 assaults and three sexual offences. There were 177 antisocial behaviour incidents, many of them drink-fuelled, which pulled police away from other parts of the city. Which coupled with the several hundred call out to Macdonalds to deal with drink-fuelled customers begs the question why recently was Julia Mulligan suggesting increasing the Council Tax for York residents? m dee

1:01pm Tue 21 Jan 14

eeoodares says...

What we need is more cheap Travelodge/Premier Inns to cater for Stag and Hen parties staying for one night on a weekend.

How I love to see drunken women falling on to the street at 4pm, keep it classy ladies!
What we need is more cheap Travelodge/Premier Inns to cater for Stag and Hen parties staying for one night on a weekend. How I love to see drunken women falling on to the street at 4pm, keep it classy ladies! eeoodares

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