York firefighters strike over pensions

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FIREFIGHTERS picketed York’s fire station on New Year’s Eve as a bitter dispute over pensions continues into 2014.

Members of the Fire Brigades Union walked out between 6.30pm and 12.30am over changes to their pension arrangements.

The protest was staged at the Clifford Street fire station. Another strike, this time expected to last two hours, is due to take place tomorrow morning.

North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue Service said crews were called out to seven incidents during the New Year’s Eve industrial action, including three bin fires, a small fire in a microwave oven, and a fire in an outside fridge unit at a hotel.

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1:19pm Thu 2 Jan 14

yorkie71 says...

You have my support and gratitude for the job you do.

The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire
You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire yorkie71

1:33pm Thu 2 Jan 14

YorkPatrol says...

yorkie71 wrote:
You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire
The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story
[quote][p][bold]yorkie71[/bold] wrote: You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire[/p][/quote]The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story YorkPatrol

2:27pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Big Bad Wolf says...

Fire fighters should not be allowed to strike in my opinion.
Out of interest who attended the fires mentioned while the strike was on?
Fire fighters should not be allowed to strike in my opinion. Out of interest who attended the fires mentioned while the strike was on? Big Bad Wolf

2:29pm Thu 2 Jan 14

perplexed says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
yorkie71 wrote:
You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire
The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story
I am sure your comments would be deeply appreciated by the families and colleagues of the 44 firefighters who have died in fires since 1978. Between (2003-2007), 13 firefighters were killed at fires. This is the worst five-year period in more than 30 years.

Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action!
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkie71[/bold] wrote: You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire[/p][/quote]The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story[/p][/quote]I am sure your comments would be deeply appreciated by the families and colleagues of the 44 firefighters who have died in fires since 1978. Between (2003-2007), 13 firefighters were killed at fires. This is the worst five-year period in more than 30 years. Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action! perplexed

3:38pm Thu 2 Jan 14

YorkPatrol says...

perplexed wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
yorkie71 wrote: You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire
The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story
I am sure your comments would be deeply appreciated by the families and colleagues of the 44 firefighters who have died in fires since 1978. Between (2003-2007), 13 firefighters were killed at fires. This is the worst five-year period in more than 30 years. Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action!
You are correct in that ignorance is terrible and this applies to you wholeheartedly.

Read peoples comments slowly, respond to the actual content and don’t produce facts and figures that don’t apply to the points made
[quote][p][bold]perplexed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkie71[/bold] wrote: You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire[/p][/quote]The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story[/p][/quote]I am sure your comments would be deeply appreciated by the families and colleagues of the 44 firefighters who have died in fires since 1978. Between (2003-2007), 13 firefighters were killed at fires. This is the worst five-year period in more than 30 years. Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action![/p][/quote]You are correct in that ignorance is terrible and this applies to you wholeheartedly. Read peoples comments slowly, respond to the actual content and don’t produce facts and figures that don’t apply to the points made YorkPatrol

4:57pm Thu 2 Jan 14

perplexed says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
perplexed wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
yorkie71 wrote: You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire
The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story
I am sure your comments would be deeply appreciated by the families and colleagues of the 44 firefighters who have died in fires since 1978. Between (2003-2007), 13 firefighters were killed at fires. This is the worst five-year period in more than 30 years. Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action!
You are correct in that ignorance is terrible and this applies to you wholeheartedly.

Read peoples comments slowly, respond to the actual content and don’t produce facts and figures that don’t apply to the points made
And what would be your point? That Yorkie cannot point the risks posed to the public by 60 year firefighters being asked to do a dangerous job or the fact that it isn't too dangerous as "fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk"?

The fact that an increasing number firefighters have lost their lives over recent years only goes to prove that it is a very dangerous job and certainly not suited to 60 year olds. Of course none of this takes into account their cat saving skills , which you seem to feel is particularly relevant to the point. Whatever that is!
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perplexed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkie71[/bold] wrote: You have my support and gratitude for the job you do. The Government expecting you to do that aged 60 is ridiculous, in heat of 1400c-2000c for a typical house fire[/p][/quote]The fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk – Climbing ladders to recue cats…now that’s a different story[/p][/quote]I am sure your comments would be deeply appreciated by the families and colleagues of the 44 firefighters who have died in fires since 1978. Between (2003-2007), 13 firefighters were killed at fires. This is the worst five-year period in more than 30 years. Nothing is more terrible than to see ignorance in action![/p][/quote]You are correct in that ignorance is terrible and this applies to you wholeheartedly. Read peoples comments slowly, respond to the actual content and don’t produce facts and figures that don’t apply to the points made[/p][/quote]And what would be your point? That Yorkie cannot point the risks posed to the public by 60 year firefighters being asked to do a dangerous job or the fact that it isn't too dangerous as "fire fighters don’t actually go into the heart of the fire – they are normally quite a few feet away and won’t enter a burning building if it presents too much of a risk"? The fact that an increasing number firefighters have lost their lives over recent years only goes to prove that it is a very dangerous job and certainly not suited to 60 year olds. Of course none of this takes into account their cat saving skills , which you seem to feel is particularly relevant to the point. Whatever that is! perplexed

10:20pm Thu 2 Jan 14

akaroa says...

Since 17th Dec 2013 to 1st Jan 2014, York fire brigade attended 52 fires, less than one a week, non serious, many trivial and out on arrival. 9 RTC, again non serious. 15 other trivialities, cats up trees etc. £30,000/year, retire at 55 Their situation is grossly exaggerated. Due to the circumstances in todays environs, the job has become a total sinecure.
Since 17th Dec 2013 to 1st Jan 2014, York fire brigade attended 52 fires, less than one a week, non serious, many trivial and out on arrival. 9 RTC, again non serious. 15 other trivialities, cats up trees etc. £30,000/year, retire at 55 Their situation is grossly exaggerated. Due to the circumstances in todays environs, the job has become a total sinecure. akaroa

10:24pm Thu 2 Jan 14

akaroa says...

Correction since 17th Dec 2012 to 1st Jan2014, 54 weeks
Correction since 17th Dec 2012 to 1st Jan2014, 54 weeks akaroa

10:09am Fri 3 Jan 14

akaroa says...

Has perplexed also looked at other occupational fatalities since 1978??? How many people have died on building sites, oil rigs scaffolding, How many people have died in factory accidents? How many people have died while working at sea? How many people have died in helicopter crashes, while being transported to and from work? How many die on the roads going to and from work. etc. etc. There is an accidental death element in all high risk occupations, but the majority work until they reach the statutory retirement age, 65 and rising.
Has perplexed also looked at other occupational fatalities since 1978??? How many people have died on building sites, oil rigs scaffolding, How many people have died in factory accidents? How many people have died while working at sea? How many people have died in helicopter crashes, while being transported to and from work? How many die on the roads going to and from work. etc. etc. There is an accidental death element in all high risk occupations, but the majority work until they reach the statutory retirement age, 65 and rising. akaroa

7:56pm Fri 3 Jan 14

sheps lad says...

The people who determine these working arrangements invariably work at a desk with no physical element to the job apart from switching on their computer!
The people who determine these working arrangements invariably work at a desk with no physical element to the job apart from switching on their computer! sheps lad

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