Councils face severe spending cuts following reduction in Government grant

York Press: Coun James Alexander Coun James Alexander

FRONTLINE council services are under a fresh threat of cuts as bosses grapple with a major reduction in Government grant.

City of York Council’s chief executive Kersten England said she expected the authority’s grant to be reduced by 9.7 per cent, or £5.7 million, in 2014/15, followed by another 13.6 per cent cut in 2015/16 – which she said were worse than the national average.

By comparison with other authorities, York had so far maintained most services despite previous grant cuts, achieving savings mostly through efficiencies and back office and management reductions, she said.

But, speaking after Local Government Secretary Eric Pickles announced the Provisional Local Government Finance Settlement, Ms England warned: “We – and all of local government – will face the toughest year yet when it comes to questions being raised about whether to continue to deliver certain services and if we do, how we deliver them, given the scale of reduction to our funding from central government.

“All councils are having to consider finding radically different ways to deliver services at lower costs or they will be making significant cuts to services in the next two financial years.”

Council leader James Alexander said previous funding cuts had already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads. “This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services,” he said.

North Yorkshire County Council leader John Weighell said it faced an ‘extremely difficult and challenging predicament’ and major savings would be required. He warned that a rise in council tax – the first in four years – could be necessary.

The announcement confirmed the council would have to find a further £77 million in savings over the next four years, he said, representing a cut in its spending power of more than a third over an eight year period. He added the council’s financial strategy for 2014/15 was based on a rise in council tax of two per cent.

Without that, it would have to find a further £2.3 million in savings, in addition to those already planned.

East Riding of Yorkshire Council said it would need to make budget savings of about £72 million over the next four years.

A spokesman said its financial strategy for several years had been to plan ahead, achieving savings and putting money aside to cushion the impact of anticipated future Government cuts, focusing on different ways to deliver services, better use of technology and buildings, and more cost-effective procurement of goods and services, and this strategy would continue.

Local government minister Brandon Lewis said councils in England were facing a 2.9 per cent cut in overall Government funding for 2014/15, leaving them with “considerable total spending power” of £2,089 per dwelling and giving them the stability and certainty needed to plan budgets and “move ahead with transforming local services and ongoing efficiency.”

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10:06am Thu 19 Dec 13

acomblass says...

Stop bleating Alexander and get your priorities right. You and your Cabinet have had more trips abroad at our expense than any other administration. Meanwhile you have been raking in the money from Lendal Bridge, have spent over half a million quid on the dubious makeover of Kings Square, another half million on unwanted 20mph limits, and another half a million for the transformation of the Council from which we have seen absolutely no benefit whatsoever.
Stop bleating Alexander and get your priorities right. You and your Cabinet have had more trips abroad at our expense than any other administration. Meanwhile you have been raking in the money from Lendal Bridge, have spent over half a million quid on the dubious makeover of Kings Square, another half million on unwanted 20mph limits, and another half a million for the transformation of the Council from which we have seen absolutely no benefit whatsoever. acomblass

10:08am Thu 19 Dec 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

No i pad on little Jimmy's Christmas (expenses) list this years then.
No i pad on little Jimmy's Christmas (expenses) list this years then. NoNewsIsGoodNews

10:09am Thu 19 Dec 13

acomblass says...

And you increased our Council Tax despite saying that you would not. The debt that this Council is racking up for the citizens to pay off in the future is disgraceful but then I suppose Cllr Alexander has learnt all he knows about finance at the knee of Ed Balls.
And you increased our Council Tax despite saying that you would not. The debt that this Council is racking up for the citizens to pay off in the future is disgraceful but then I suppose Cllr Alexander has learnt all he knows about finance at the knee of Ed Balls. acomblass

10:17am Thu 19 Dec 13

chelk says...

Bit of advice for Alexander Cut back on council leaders wages and trim number of cronies, get rid of expensive consultants that have been used, cut out trips abroad, stop all the vanity projects, or preferably get this council to resign for the good of York. The Muppet Show rolls ever onward
Bit of advice for Alexander Cut back on council leaders wages and trim number of cronies, get rid of expensive consultants that have been used, cut out trips abroad, stop all the vanity projects, or preferably get this council to resign for the good of York. The Muppet Show rolls ever onward chelk

10:20am Thu 19 Dec 13

Dr Brian says...

Didn't Alexander and his cronies provide all councillors with I pads as well - he has no idea about finances they waste money on unnecessary projects and spend money on local TV stations so the people of York can watch JA pontificating at Council meetings.

It is the season of goodwill JA spread a lot of happiness to the good folk of York this Christmas and announce you are resigning from the York political scene..
Didn't Alexander and his cronies provide all councillors with I pads as well - he has no idea about finances they waste money on unnecessary projects and spend money on local TV stations so the people of York can watch JA pontificating at Council meetings. It is the season of goodwill JA spread a lot of happiness to the good folk of York this Christmas and announce you are resigning from the York political scene.. Dr Brian

10:25am Thu 19 Dec 13

asd says...

I think whoever is in charge will struggle, the systamic cuts to everything except bankers,city finacial institutions mp wages, is the bigger picture even though this goverment has borrowed more than ever. Shame society is so me, me and brainwashed so easily.
I think whoever is in charge will struggle, the systamic cuts to everything except bankers,city finacial institutions mp wages, is the bigger picture even though this goverment has borrowed more than ever. Shame society is so me, me and brainwashed so easily. asd

10:34am Thu 19 Dec 13

Kevin Turvey says...

‘Council leader James Alexander said previous funding cuts had already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads. “This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services,” he said.’

Time to fall on your own sword and resign, that will save some cash to the publics purse that you are so keen to save by cutting actual frontline services that the council is there dutybound to provide rather than true wastes of our money on exec toys and expensive hangersonners.

I would rather see 20 street cleaners or carers employed rather than 1 of the hangersonners with all their toys!

You and the rest of your cronnies are a disgrace to public office.

Also judging by the photo a bit of hardship would do you some good!
‘Council leader James Alexander said previous funding cuts had already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads. “This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services,” he said.’ Time to fall on your own sword and resign, that will save some cash to the publics purse that you are so keen to save by cutting actual frontline services that the council is there dutybound to provide rather than true wastes of our money on exec toys and expensive hangersonners. I would rather see 20 street cleaners or carers employed rather than 1 of the hangersonners with all their toys! You and the rest of your cronnies are a disgrace to public office. Also judging by the photo a bit of hardship would do you some good! Kevin Turvey

10:37am Thu 19 Dec 13

courier46 says...

Memo to Alexander - STOP WASTING MONEY AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN YORK ....................
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Memo to Alexander - STOP WASTING MONEY AND LISTEN TO THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK IN YORK .................... .... courier46

10:41am Thu 19 Dec 13

greenmonkey says...

"Didn't Alexander and his cronies provide all councillors with I pads as well "- NO that was Scarborough I think. Given the volume of paper used for council meetings however it would probably pay for itself in a year.
While it is true that so called 'vanity projects' are being funded from capital borrowing as long term investment, this couldnt be switched to cover the revenue costs of day to day services. However it will reduce the money available still further for basic services in future.
"Didn't Alexander and his cronies provide all councillors with I pads as well "- NO that was Scarborough I think. Given the volume of paper used for council meetings however it would probably pay for itself in a year. While it is true that so called 'vanity projects' are being funded from capital borrowing as long term investment, this couldnt be switched to cover the revenue costs of day to day services. However it will reduce the money available still further for basic services in future. greenmonkey

10:48am Thu 19 Dec 13

bolero says...

A Christmas and New Year message to Alexander and his ragtime band. GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT. And stop wasting OUR money on YOUR vanity projects. What a complete shower you are.
A Christmas and New Year message to Alexander and his ragtime band. GET OUT, GET OUT, GET OUT. And stop wasting OUR money on YOUR vanity projects. What a complete shower you are. bolero

11:01am Thu 19 Dec 13

Oaklands Resident says...

As usual a story lacking in facts.

I challenge The Press to publish, for each of the last 5 years, the income that the York Council has received from government grants, Business Rates, Council Tax and charges.

Then compare it to the Councils expenditure in each year.

... and a forecast of the same figures for the forthcoming financial year would help to inform debate.
As usual a story lacking in facts. I challenge The Press to publish, for each of the last 5 years, the income that the York Council has received from government grants, Business Rates, Council Tax and charges. Then compare it to the Councils expenditure in each year. ... and a forecast of the same figures for the forthcoming financial year would help to inform debate. Oaklands Resident

11:04am Thu 19 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Council leader James Alexander said:
This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services.

No more challenging than your punitive policy to grind York to a halt creating inefficiency and added costs to businesses and residents of York. Businesses and residents suffering financially from your actions are not listened to so what makes you think your any different.

Live with it and deal with it, thats what your expecting us to do, so you do the same.
Council leader James Alexander said: This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services. No more challenging than your punitive policy to grind York to a halt creating inefficiency and added costs to businesses and residents of York. Businesses and residents suffering financially from your actions are not listened to so what makes you think your any different. Live with it and deal with it, thats what your expecting us to do, so you do the same. YOUWILLDOASISAY

11:05am Thu 19 Dec 13

Tom6187 says...

Was there any need for the picture? We're sick of the sight of him.
Was there any need for the picture? We're sick of the sight of him. Tom6187

11:11am Thu 19 Dec 13

Oaklands Resident says...

greenmonkey wrote:
"Didn't Alexander and his cronies provide all councillors with I pads as well "- NO that was Scarborough I think. Given the volume of paper used for council meetings however it would probably pay for itself in a year.
While it is true that so called 'vanity projects' are being funded from capital borrowing as long term investment, this couldnt be switched to cover the revenue costs of day to day services. However it will reduce the money available still further for basic services in future.
The Council borrows money to fund its capital expenditure. It has to pay back principal and interest on the debt each year.

Just cancelling the Councils contribution to the Chancery Rise bridge, into the York Central site (£10 million), would save around £700,000 a year in current account debt charges. This type of project should be funded by those land owners who, as a result of it, would see the value of their holdings increase exponentially.

There are lots of other choices like this which need to be considered ahead of further cuts to the public services which we all need to use everyday.
[quote][p][bold]greenmonkey[/bold] wrote: "Didn't Alexander and his cronies provide all councillors with I pads as well "- NO that was Scarborough I think. Given the volume of paper used for council meetings however it would probably pay for itself in a year. While it is true that so called 'vanity projects' are being funded from capital borrowing as long term investment, this couldnt be switched to cover the revenue costs of day to day services. However it will reduce the money available still further for basic services in future.[/p][/quote]The Council borrows money to fund its capital expenditure. It has to pay back principal and interest on the debt each year. Just cancelling the Councils contribution to the Chancery Rise bridge, into the York Central site (£10 million), would save around £700,000 a year in current account debt charges. This type of project should be funded by those land owners who, as a result of it, would see the value of their holdings increase exponentially. There are lots of other choices like this which need to be considered ahead of further cuts to the public services which we all need to use everyday. Oaklands Resident

11:12am Thu 19 Dec 13

meme says...

I suspect they are trying to do their best to save money but frankly have not come to terms with the way the world has had to change
What gets up peoples noses is the fact they are constantly told that front line services will be cut but we get Arts barges, kings Sq , I pads New HQ, 20 mph, cultural quarter etc .
these are not crucial and when its said the cost comes from such and such a pocket of money, we don't care. Its all our money one way or another and we want it spent on crucial things not stupid luxury projects
CoYC is there to deliver essential services and to spend our money in best possible way not employing people to advise on this and that project such as planting trees..that's for the locals to organise if they want to
The new reality is that you will score points for being tight providing essential things and getting rid of the vanity all politicians seem to have yet we have not learnt this yet in York politically hence JA's and crews unpopularity in general
I suspect they are trying to do their best to save money but frankly have not come to terms with the way the world has had to change What gets up peoples noses is the fact they are constantly told that front line services will be cut but we get Arts barges, kings Sq , I pads New HQ, 20 mph, cultural quarter etc . these are not crucial and when its said the cost comes from such and such a pocket of money, we don't care. Its all our money one way or another and we want it spent on crucial things not stupid luxury projects CoYC is there to deliver essential services and to spend our money in best possible way not employing people to advise on this and that project such as planting trees..that's for the locals to organise if they want to The new reality is that you will score points for being tight providing essential things and getting rid of the vanity all politicians seem to have yet we have not learnt this yet in York politically hence JA's and crews unpopularity in general meme

11:51am Thu 19 Dec 13

Knavesmire view says...

Pointless commenting on this story. Soon the orchestrated campaign to vote down anti-council comments will be unleashed on here as it has on other stories in the last day or two.
Serious question for the Press: are you going to investigate what is going on? This is a deliberate campaign to maniuplate the appearance of public opinion.
I thought I'd seen it all from this council but apparently not.
You can vote down comments all you like, but we will be voting you out of power come the next election.
And it can't come soon enough!
Pointless commenting on this story. Soon the orchestrated campaign to vote down anti-council comments will be unleashed on here as it has on other stories in the last day or two. Serious question for the Press: are you going to investigate what is going on? This is a deliberate campaign to maniuplate the appearance of public opinion. I thought I'd seen it all from this council but apparently not. You can vote down comments all you like, but we will be voting you out of power come the next election. And it can't come soon enough! Knavesmire view

12:01pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Pedro says...

Poor people in York pay council tax. They don't elsewhere. That is the disgrace. They are taxing those with the lowest incomes.
Poor people in York pay council tax. They don't elsewhere. That is the disgrace. They are taxing those with the lowest incomes. Pedro

12:12pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Zetkin says...

Yes let's vote the Liberals and Tories back in, be cause they won't cut council services at all, will they?

I probably won't be voting Labour again, given their enthusiastic embace of the Condems' cutting and privatising agenda, but it's hilarious reading the comments on here; anybody who hadn't watched TV or read a newspaper for the last ten years would think James Alexander was entirely responsible for the banking crisis, the fall in workers' wages since 2010, and the decimation of the NHS.

Actually folks, he isn't that powerful and the real villains are in Westminster, Whitehall, and the boardrooms of the City.
Yes let's vote the Liberals and Tories back in, be cause they won't cut council services at all, will they? I probably won't be voting Labour again, given their enthusiastic embace of the Condems' cutting and privatising agenda, but it's hilarious reading the comments on here; anybody who hadn't watched TV or read a newspaper for the last ten years would think James Alexander was entirely responsible for the banking crisis, the fall in workers' wages since 2010, and the decimation of the NHS. Actually folks, he isn't that powerful and the real villains are in Westminster, Whitehall, and the boardrooms of the City. Zetkin

12:18pm Thu 19 Dec 13

meme says...

Poor people in York pay council tax

I find it amazing that its always the poor who are not expected to contribute
Firstly what counts as 'poor' ....not being able to eat...certainly...no
t being able to afford a holiday....No.......
not having a colour TV/being able to smoke/ drink/go out etc....No...there is problem one who defines what is poor?
secondly what is rich? if you can afford all these things should you pay all the taxes to ensure the 'poor' can afford them as well. if that is the case what is the point in working to become rich? If you are not you get it all anyway.
I may be wrong but I think the less well off pay council tax NOT the genuinely poor and the rich pay a higher amount as presumably they live in bigger houses despite not actually costing the taxpayer more so Im not sure why I am arguing this point!!!
Poor people in York pay council tax I find it amazing that its always the poor who are not expected to contribute Firstly what counts as 'poor' ....not being able to eat...certainly...no t being able to afford a holiday....No....... not having a colour TV/being able to smoke/ drink/go out etc....No...there is problem one who defines what is poor? secondly what is rich? if you can afford all these things should you pay all the taxes to ensure the 'poor' can afford them as well. if that is the case what is the point in working to become rich? If you are not you get it all anyway. I may be wrong but I think the less well off pay council tax NOT the genuinely poor and the rich pay a higher amount as presumably they live in bigger houses despite not actually costing the taxpayer more so Im not sure why I am arguing this point!!! meme

12:18pm Thu 19 Dec 13

acomblass says...

Oaklands Resident wrote:
As usual a story lacking in facts. I challenge The Press to publish, for each of the last 5 years, the income that the York Council has received from government grants, Business Rates, Council Tax and charges. Then compare it to the Councils expenditure in each year. ... and a forecast of the same figures for the forthcoming financial year would help to inform debate.
I think this is a good idea and would certainly help restore some faith in the Press which seems to be the mouthpiece for Cllr Alexander. It will also assist those who attend the "Peregrination of Cllr Alexander" (he starts his tour in Haxby on 30 January) to formulate some interesting questions.
[quote][p][bold]Oaklands Resident[/bold] wrote: As usual a story lacking in facts. I challenge The Press to publish, for each of the last 5 years, the income that the York Council has received from government grants, Business Rates, Council Tax and charges. Then compare it to the Councils expenditure in each year. ... and a forecast of the same figures for the forthcoming financial year would help to inform debate.[/p][/quote]I think this is a good idea and would certainly help restore some faith in the Press which seems to be the mouthpiece for Cllr Alexander. It will also assist those who attend the "Peregrination of Cllr Alexander" (he starts his tour in Haxby on 30 January) to formulate some interesting questions. acomblass

12:21pm Thu 19 Dec 13

acomblass says...

Have also noted comments on my earlier post at 12.20 of 61 and 46
Have also noted comments on my earlier post at 12.20 of 61 and 46 acomblass

12:37pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Guthred says...

As York's biggest employer I hope that the council pledge to keep all customer contact functions in house, such as Customer services. Many councills are moving to outsourcing. For example, Avarto - a German company, are now managing quite a few council's Customer service functions. In East Riding for example, all inbound calls are now diverted to a call centre in Liverpool.
As York's biggest employer I hope that the council pledge to keep all customer contact functions in house, such as Customer services. Many councills are moving to outsourcing. For example, Avarto - a German company, are now managing quite a few council's Customer service functions. In East Riding for example, all inbound calls are now diverted to a call centre in Liverpool. Guthred

1:20pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Haywire says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
‘Council leader James Alexander said previous funding cuts had already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads. “This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services,” he said.’

Time to fall on your own sword and resign, that will save some cash to the publics purse that you are so keen to save by cutting actual frontline services that the council is there dutybound to provide rather than true wastes of our money on exec toys and expensive hangersonners.

I would rather see 20 street cleaners or carers employed rather than 1 of the hangersonners with all their toys!

You and the rest of your cronnies are a disgrace to public office.

Also judging by the photo a bit of hardship would do you some good!
Kevin,
I'm still waiting for the good news! Will it be gift wrapped? Will it come down the chimney on Wednesday next week? I can hardly wait!
In other news; and being quite apolitical in relation to your comment on hardship, I suspect that the same thought would apply to the recently appointed head of another political party in York. Let's not be too selective in our comments, Kevin.
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: ‘Council leader James Alexander said previous funding cuts had already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads. “This further reduction will be even more challenging and have a further impact on front-line services,” he said.’ Time to fall on your own sword and resign, that will save some cash to the publics purse that you are so keen to save by cutting actual frontline services that the council is there dutybound to provide rather than true wastes of our money on exec toys and expensive hangersonners. I would rather see 20 street cleaners or carers employed rather than 1 of the hangersonners with all their toys! You and the rest of your cronnies are a disgrace to public office. Also judging by the photo a bit of hardship would do you some good![/p][/quote]Kevin, I'm still waiting for the good news! Will it be gift wrapped? Will it come down the chimney on Wednesday next week? I can hardly wait! In other news; and being quite apolitical in relation to your comment on hardship, I suspect that the same thought would apply to the recently appointed head of another political party in York. Let's not be too selective in our comments, Kevin. Haywire

1:26pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Dave Ruddock says...

Sack theses leaders and experts that cost a fortune and achieve diddly squat. its the Front Line that needs DEFENDING not First to go. as stated above, penny pinch the leaders and work down, not front tline and work up. Report all accidents for ill kept roads to insurers that the culprit was the council and start the US Idea , "SUE SUE SUE" for nor keeping the public safe
Sack theses leaders and experts that cost a fortune and achieve diddly squat. its the Front Line that needs DEFENDING not First to go. as stated above, penny pinch the leaders and work down, not front tline and work up. Report all accidents for ill kept roads to insurers that the culprit was the council and start the US Idea , "SUE SUE SUE" for nor keeping the public safe Dave Ruddock

1:32pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Kevin Turvey says...

‘Haywire says...
Kevin,
I'm still waiting for the good news! Will it be gift wrapped? Will it come down the chimney on Wednesday next week? I can hardly wait!
In other news; and being quite apolitical in relation to your comment on hardship, I suspect that the same thought would apply to the recently appointed head of another political party in York. Let's not be too selective in our comments, Kevin.’


Like a small child waiting for your rightful and expected gifts from others are you?

Better keep on waiting long past past xmas day as with these idiots in so called power!

By the way not aligned to any party myself as I mistrust all politicians, I just hate the process of democracy broken down by whoever is doing it, just so happens at the minute that is this lot!
‘Haywire says... Kevin, I'm still waiting for the good news! Will it be gift wrapped? Will it come down the chimney on Wednesday next week? I can hardly wait! In other news; and being quite apolitical in relation to your comment on hardship, I suspect that the same thought would apply to the recently appointed head of another political party in York. Let's not be too selective in our comments, Kevin.’ Like a small child waiting for your rightful and expected gifts from others are you? Better keep on waiting long past past xmas day as with these idiots in so called power! By the way not aligned to any party myself as I mistrust all politicians, I just hate the process of democracy broken down by whoever is doing it, just so happens at the minute that is this lot! Kevin Turvey

1:32pm Thu 19 Dec 13

marvell says...

Cllr Alexander trying to mask the York Labour administration's utter financial incompetence by hiding behind government cuts.

If its that bad why spend money on vanity projects such as Kings Square. The £500,000 spent on that could have been spent on repairing roads and pavements.

GET YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT...
Cllr Alexander trying to mask the York Labour administration's utter financial incompetence by hiding behind government cuts. If its that bad why spend money on vanity projects such as Kings Square. The £500,000 spent on that could have been spent on repairing roads and pavements. GET YOUR PRIORITIES RIGHT... marvell

1:35pm Thu 19 Dec 13

chelk says...

Wonder when the Alexander supporters are going to mobilise the troops to manipulate the voting figures on this story
Wonder when the Alexander supporters are going to mobilise the troops to manipulate the voting figures on this story chelk

1:37pm Thu 19 Dec 13

BKKYorkshireboy says...

Zetkin wrote:
Yes let's vote the Liberals and Tories back in, be cause they won't cut council services at all, will they? I probably won't be voting Labour again, given their enthusiastic embace of the Condems' cutting and privatising agenda, but it's hilarious reading the comments on here; anybody who hadn't watched TV or read a newspaper for the last ten years would think James Alexander was entirely responsible for the banking crisis, the fall in workers' wages since 2010, and the decimation of the NHS. Actually folks, he isn't that powerful and the real villains are in Westminster, Whitehall, and the boardrooms of the City.
Couldn't agree more! If JA was as horrendous and incompetent as all these guys make out he would be in prison or hung from Micklegate Bar for treason!

The effects of the cuts that Ray Mallon is having to make just up the road (approx 600 jobs going to save £22m) will be horiffic for the area, much worse than a few salt bins going missing! Lets hope the COYC manges the defecit with minimum (although it will be substantial) impact to the area.
[quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: Yes let's vote the Liberals and Tories back in, be cause they won't cut council services at all, will they? I probably won't be voting Labour again, given their enthusiastic embace of the Condems' cutting and privatising agenda, but it's hilarious reading the comments on here; anybody who hadn't watched TV or read a newspaper for the last ten years would think James Alexander was entirely responsible for the banking crisis, the fall in workers' wages since 2010, and the decimation of the NHS. Actually folks, he isn't that powerful and the real villains are in Westminster, Whitehall, and the boardrooms of the City.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! If JA was as horrendous and incompetent as all these guys make out he would be in prison or hung from Micklegate Bar for treason! The effects of the cuts that Ray Mallon is having to make just up the road (approx 600 jobs going to save £22m) will be horiffic for the area, much worse than a few salt bins going missing! Lets hope the COYC manges the defecit with minimum (although it will be substantial) impact to the area. BKKYorkshireboy

1:40pm Thu 19 Dec 13

The Analyst says...

Knavesmire view wrote:
Pointless commenting on this story. Soon the orchestrated campaign to vote down anti-council comments will be unleashed on here as it has on other stories in the last day or two.
Serious question for the Press: are you going to investigate what is going on? This is a deliberate campaign to maniuplate the appearance of public opinion.
I thought I'd seen it all from this council but apparently not.
You can vote down comments all you like, but we will be voting you out of power come the next election.
And it can't come soon enough!
Here here, this current Council are an absolute shambles and the next vote can't come quick enough for me!
[quote][p][bold]Knavesmire view[/bold] wrote: Pointless commenting on this story. Soon the orchestrated campaign to vote down anti-council comments will be unleashed on here as it has on other stories in the last day or two. Serious question for the Press: are you going to investigate what is going on? This is a deliberate campaign to maniuplate the appearance of public opinion. I thought I'd seen it all from this council but apparently not. You can vote down comments all you like, but we will be voting you out of power come the next election. And it can't come soon enough![/p][/quote]Here here, this current Council are an absolute shambles and the next vote can't come quick enough for me! The Analyst

1:40pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Happytoliveinyork says...

I heard our glorious leader talking about this on local radio today. Such irony as I was stuck in traffic between the Haxby & Wigginton roundabouts admiring the brand spanking new cycle path - with absolutely no one on it. Times are tough - get used to it and stop spending huge wads of cash on vanity projects.
I heard our glorious leader talking about this on local radio today. Such irony as I was stuck in traffic between the Haxby & Wigginton roundabouts admiring the brand spanking new cycle path - with absolutely no one on it. Times are tough - get used to it and stop spending huge wads of cash on vanity projects. Happytoliveinyork

1:41pm Thu 19 Dec 13

roskoboskovic says...

unless you are a cycling based project then you are scuppered.time to get rid of these clueless oafs
unless you are a cycling based project then you are scuppered.time to get rid of these clueless oafs roskoboskovic

2:05pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Kevin Turvey says...

‘Madasanibbotson says...
Alexander, No Merrett and Simply-Laing couldn't run a school tuck shop.

Lets look at Alexander's CV
1) Part time job at Jessops
2) Asked for a salary advance first week in the job.

He can't manage his own bank account.

It's the season of goodwill so GO NOW all three of you, before you do any further damage (before you are elected out)’



How sad a grown man unable to manage his own bank account – How could he be expected to manage York Council’s budget! The laughing stock of the national papers at the time.

Asking for a salary advice in your first week in the job – Have you no shame?

Part time Job at Jessops – look what happened to them! Maybe he is just a Jonah and everywhere he goes fails, explains a lot.

The very sad part in this entire long saga is the incessant PR/Propaganda requirements of the 3 amigos.

It’s almost as if they need this high level to promote the so called work they are doing (notice I did not say good work!).

Good work does not need promotion it promotes itself.

What is the next stage in their Machiavellian plan if you do not agree with their dogma?
Dissenters on the Gulag chain gang building the York equivalent of the Road of Bones for yet another unrequired cycle lane going nowhere for nobody apart from being a Zivlov lane for the Ferret’s private use?

Madasanibbotson - I support you, All 3 amigos resign now!
‘Madasanibbotson says... Alexander, No Merrett and Simply-Laing couldn't run a school tuck shop. Lets look at Alexander's CV 1) Part time job at Jessops 2) Asked for a salary advance first week in the job. He can't manage his own bank account. It's the season of goodwill so GO NOW all three of you, before you do any further damage (before you are elected out)’ How sad a grown man unable to manage his own bank account – How could he be expected to manage York Council’s budget! The laughing stock of the national papers at the time. Asking for a salary advice in your first week in the job – Have you no shame? Part time Job at Jessops – look what happened to them! Maybe he is just a Jonah and everywhere he goes fails, explains a lot. The very sad part in this entire long saga is the incessant PR/Propaganda requirements of the 3 amigos. It’s almost as if they need this high level to promote the so called work they are doing (notice I did not say good work!). Good work does not need promotion it promotes itself. What is the next stage in their Machiavellian plan if you do not agree with their dogma? Dissenters on the Gulag chain gang building the York equivalent of the Road of Bones for yet another unrequired cycle lane going nowhere for nobody apart from being a Zivlov lane for the Ferret’s private use? Madasanibbotson - I support you, All 3 amigos resign now! Kevin Turvey

2:17pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Madasanibbotson says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
‘Madasanibbotson says...
Alexander, No Merrett and Simply-Laing couldn't run a school tuck shop.

Lets look at Alexander's CV
1) Part time job at Jessops
2) Asked for a salary advance first week in the job.

He can't manage his own bank account.

It's the season of goodwill so GO NOW all three of you, before you do any further damage (before you are elected out)’



How sad a grown man unable to manage his own bank account – How could he be expected to manage York Council’s budget! The laughing stock of the national papers at the time.

Asking for a salary advice in your first week in the job – Have you no shame?

Part time Job at Jessops – look what happened to them! Maybe he is just a Jonah and everywhere he goes fails, explains a lot.

The very sad part in this entire long saga is the incessant PR/Propaganda requirements of the 3 amigos.

It’s almost as if they need this high level to promote the so called work they are doing (notice I did not say good work!).

Good work does not need promotion it promotes itself.

What is the next stage in their Machiavellian plan if you do not agree with their dogma?
Dissenters on the Gulag chain gang building the York equivalent of the Road of Bones for yet another unrequired cycle lane going nowhere for nobody apart from being a Zivlov lane for the Ferret’s private use?

Madasanibbotson - I support you, All 3 amigos resign now!
Kevin,
Thanks for your support. I notice my post has been removed by the 3 Amigos protection -The Press.

So much for freedom of speech.

How can the press remove my post-Can't run a tuck shop my opinion-can the press litigate and prove me wrong-NO
Part time job at Jessop's -TRUE
Salary advance-TRUE

Are we in York or China/North Korea ?
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: ‘Madasanibbotson says... Alexander, No Merrett and Simply-Laing couldn't run a school tuck shop. Lets look at Alexander's CV 1) Part time job at Jessops 2) Asked for a salary advance first week in the job. He can't manage his own bank account. It's the season of goodwill so GO NOW all three of you, before you do any further damage (before you are elected out)’ How sad a grown man unable to manage his own bank account – How could he be expected to manage York Council’s budget! The laughing stock of the national papers at the time. Asking for a salary advice in your first week in the job – Have you no shame? Part time Job at Jessops – look what happened to them! Maybe he is just a Jonah and everywhere he goes fails, explains a lot. The very sad part in this entire long saga is the incessant PR/Propaganda requirements of the 3 amigos. It’s almost as if they need this high level to promote the so called work they are doing (notice I did not say good work!). Good work does not need promotion it promotes itself. What is the next stage in their Machiavellian plan if you do not agree with their dogma? Dissenters on the Gulag chain gang building the York equivalent of the Road of Bones for yet another unrequired cycle lane going nowhere for nobody apart from being a Zivlov lane for the Ferret’s private use? Madasanibbotson - I support you, All 3 amigos resign now![/p][/quote]Kevin, Thanks for your support. I notice my post has been removed by the 3 Amigos protection -The Press. So much for freedom of speech. How can the press remove my post-Can't run a tuck shop my opinion-can the press litigate and prove me wrong-NO Part time job at Jessop's -TRUE Salary advance-TRUE Are we in York or China/North Korea ? Madasanibbotson

2:53pm Thu 19 Dec 13

bill bailey says...

acomblass wrote:
Oaklands Resident wrote:
As usual a story lacking in facts. I challenge The Press to publish, for each of the last 5 years, the income that the York Council has received from government grants, Business Rates, Council Tax and charges. Then compare it to the Councils expenditure in each year. ... and a forecast of the same figures for the forthcoming financial year would help to inform debate.
I think this is a good idea and would certainly help restore some faith in the Press which seems to be the mouthpiece for Cllr Alexander. It will also assist those who attend the "Peregrination of Cllr Alexander" (he starts his tour in Haxby on 30 January) to formulate some interesting questions.
And where is the money from the sale of council houses.??
[quote][p][bold]acomblass[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oaklands Resident[/bold] wrote: As usual a story lacking in facts. I challenge The Press to publish, for each of the last 5 years, the income that the York Council has received from government grants, Business Rates, Council Tax and charges. Then compare it to the Councils expenditure in each year. ... and a forecast of the same figures for the forthcoming financial year would help to inform debate.[/p][/quote]I think this is a good idea and would certainly help restore some faith in the Press which seems to be the mouthpiece for Cllr Alexander. It will also assist those who attend the "Peregrination of Cllr Alexander" (he starts his tour in Haxby on 30 January) to formulate some interesting questions.[/p][/quote]And where is the money from the sale of council houses.?? bill bailey

3:14pm Thu 19 Dec 13

The Grim Reaper says...

Lead by example and DON'T collect your "wages" that I pay. Try representing the city for the sheer pride of it. It would be start.....
Lead by example and DON'T collect your "wages" that I pay. Try representing the city for the sheer pride of it. It would be start..... The Grim Reaper

3:57pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Ichabod76 says...

chelk wrote:
Wonder when the Alexander supporters are going to mobilise the troops to manipulate the voting figures on this story
It happens overnight

Interestingly when I told a councillor who posts here with a pseudonym that I was going to reveal who they all are before the next election, the ability to search through peoples comments was suddenly removed.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: Wonder when the Alexander supporters are going to mobilise the troops to manipulate the voting figures on this story[/p][/quote]It happens overnight Interestingly when I told a councillor who posts here with a pseudonym that I was going to reveal who they all are before the next election, the ability to search through peoples comments was suddenly removed. Ichabod76

4:20pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Caecilius says...

Happytoliveinyork wrote:
I heard our glorious leader talking about this on local radio today. Such irony as I was stuck in traffic between the Haxby & Wigginton roundabouts admiring the brand spanking new cycle path - with absolutely no one on it. Times are tough - get used to it and stop spending huge wads of cash on vanity projects.
And if there hadn't been a cycle path, you wouldn't have been stuck in traffic? It cost peanuts in terms of the council budget, and provides an option for people - who also pay council tax - to travel between Haxby and Wigginton without contributing to, and being stuck in, congestion. If you don't want to use it yourself, you can at least hope that other people will, reducing the number of cars on the road and maybe letting you make your journey more quickly. If you don't want money spent on any other form of transport than the one you choose to use, then get used to being stuck in traffic.
[quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: I heard our glorious leader talking about this on local radio today. Such irony as I was stuck in traffic between the Haxby & Wigginton roundabouts admiring the brand spanking new cycle path - with absolutely no one on it. Times are tough - get used to it and stop spending huge wads of cash on vanity projects.[/p][/quote]And if there hadn't been a cycle path, you wouldn't have been stuck in traffic? It cost peanuts in terms of the council budget, and provides an option for people - who also pay council tax - to travel between Haxby and Wigginton without contributing to, and being stuck in, congestion. If you don't want to use it yourself, you can at least hope that other people will, reducing the number of cars on the road and maybe letting you make your journey more quickly. If you don't want money spent on any other form of transport than the one you choose to use, then get used to being stuck in traffic. Caecilius

4:21pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Caecilius says...

roskoboskovic wrote:
unless you are a cycling based project then you are scuppered.time to get rid of these clueless oafs
Like the Water End cycle lane?
[quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: unless you are a cycling based project then you are scuppered.time to get rid of these clueless oafs[/p][/quote]Like the Water End cycle lane? Caecilius

4:29pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Gaylord Scruttock says...

"RESIDENTS PREFER ART BARGES TO GRITTED ROADS" INSISTS COUNCIL
By Gaylord Scruttock -

Hard pressed York residents today called for more art barges, 20 mph zones and trial bridge closures as council bosses announced further cuts to frontline services, the Press can reveal. By comparison with other authorities, York had so far maintained spunking money up the wall despite grant cuts.

Part-time council worker Alexander James explained: “Although previous funding cuts have already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads, we recognise that what York residents really want is free wi-fi across the city centre, websites and leaflets that state the bleeding obvious and pointless road signage at the entrance to every cul-de-sac in my province”. When questioned about the validity of such spending, Mr. James continued: “Having had a Saturday job at Snappy Snaps, I’m probably better placed than most to decide what constitutes essential spending. It makes perfect financial sense.”

“After an extensive consultation process that involved me asking six of my best mates what they thought, it became clear that the people of York would much rather see valuable resources allocated to inadequate temporary road signs than have their bin emptied in a timely manner” reasoned David Ferrett, cabinet member for P*ss-ups and Breweries. “Cutting frontline services isn’t ideal, obviously, but the people of York have spoken. It would be undemocratic for City of York Council to go against the wishes of the majority of residents.”

84-year-old Gladys Knight, of Acomb agreed: “Last winter I slipped on an icy pavement and broke my hip, but it was totally worth it because now, thanks to the council’s spending policies, I can update my Facebook status almost anywhere in the city centre. I love it! No, I don’t use any social media, but it’s the principle of the thing isn’t it?” said Ms. Knight. “I’d even consider giving up Meals on Wheels if it meant doing my bit to free up half a million quid so that tourists didn’t have to sit at tables on uneven paving to enjoy over-priced hot chocolate.”
"RESIDENTS PREFER ART BARGES TO GRITTED ROADS" INSISTS COUNCIL By Gaylord Scruttock - Hard pressed York residents today called for more art barges, 20 mph zones and trial bridge closures as council bosses announced further cuts to frontline services, the Press can reveal. By comparison with other authorities, York had so far maintained spunking money up the wall despite grant cuts. Part-time council worker Alexander James explained: “Although previous funding cuts have already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads, we recognise that what York residents really want is free wi-fi across the city centre, websites and leaflets that state the bleeding obvious and pointless road signage at the entrance to every cul-de-sac in my province”. When questioned about the validity of such spending, Mr. James continued: “Having had a Saturday job at Snappy Snaps, I’m probably better placed than most to decide what constitutes essential spending. It makes perfect financial sense.” “After an extensive consultation process that involved me asking six of my best mates what they thought, it became clear that the people of York would much rather see valuable resources allocated to inadequate temporary road signs than have their bin emptied in a timely manner” reasoned David Ferrett, cabinet member for P*ss-ups and Breweries. “Cutting frontline services isn’t ideal, obviously, but the people of York have spoken. It would be undemocratic for City of York Council to go against the wishes of the majority of residents.” 84-year-old Gladys Knight, of Acomb agreed: “Last winter I slipped on an icy pavement and broke my hip, but it was totally worth it because now, thanks to the council’s spending policies, I can update my Facebook status almost anywhere in the city centre. I love it! No, I don’t use any social media, but it’s the principle of the thing isn’t it?” said Ms. Knight. “I’d even consider giving up Meals on Wheels if it meant doing my bit to free up half a million quid so that tourists didn’t have to sit at tables on uneven paving to enjoy over-priced hot chocolate.” Gaylord Scruttock

4:31pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Happytoliveinyork says...

Caecilius wrote:
Happytoliveinyork wrote:
I heard our glorious leader talking about this on local radio today. Such irony as I was stuck in traffic between the Haxby & Wigginton roundabouts admiring the brand spanking new cycle path - with absolutely no one on it. Times are tough - get used to it and stop spending huge wads of cash on vanity projects.
And if there hadn't been a cycle path, you wouldn't have been stuck in traffic? It cost peanuts in terms of the council budget, and provides an option for people - who also pay council tax - to travel between Haxby and Wigginton without contributing to, and being stuck in, congestion. If you don't want to use it yourself, you can at least hope that other people will, reducing the number of cars on the road and maybe letting you make your journey more quickly. If you don't want money spent on any other form of transport than the one you choose to use, then get used to being stuck in traffic.
My point was not being stuck in traffic - that comes with the territory living in York.

My point it this council has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on this white elephant at a time it it making cuts to services york residents need and want.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: I heard our glorious leader talking about this on local radio today. Such irony as I was stuck in traffic between the Haxby & Wigginton roundabouts admiring the brand spanking new cycle path - with absolutely no one on it. Times are tough - get used to it and stop spending huge wads of cash on vanity projects.[/p][/quote]And if there hadn't been a cycle path, you wouldn't have been stuck in traffic? It cost peanuts in terms of the council budget, and provides an option for people - who also pay council tax - to travel between Haxby and Wigginton without contributing to, and being stuck in, congestion. If you don't want to use it yourself, you can at least hope that other people will, reducing the number of cars on the road and maybe letting you make your journey more quickly. If you don't want money spent on any other form of transport than the one you choose to use, then get used to being stuck in traffic.[/p][/quote]My point was not being stuck in traffic - that comes with the territory living in York. My point it this council has spent hundreds of thousands of pounds on this white elephant at a time it it making cuts to services york residents need and want. Happytoliveinyork

4:34pm Thu 19 Dec 13

perplexed says...

It is all deeply depressing, we have been badly let down by both local and national politicians. The amount of waste is truly staggering, whether it is arts barges or subsidising the chinese space program . Sadly, they all seem to be cut from the same cloth.
It is all deeply depressing, we have been badly let down by both local and national politicians. The amount of waste is truly staggering, whether it is arts barges or subsidising the chinese space program . Sadly, they all seem to be cut from the same cloth. perplexed

5:49pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Happytoliveinyork says...

simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
No doubt it will get priority gritting once winter arrives.
[quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]No doubt it will get priority gritting once winter arrives. Happytoliveinyork

6:47pm Thu 19 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

The mark down of comments has started as expected.

Good stuff, the actions of failure.
The mark down of comments has started as expected. Good stuff, the actions of failure. YOUWILLDOASISAY

7:00pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Ian Roscoe says...

Gaylord Scruttock wrote:
"RESIDENTS PREFER ART BARGES TO GRITTED ROADS" INSISTS COUNCIL
By Gaylord Scruttock -

Hard pressed York residents today called for more art barges, 20 mph zones and trial bridge closures as council bosses announced further cuts to frontline services, the Press can reveal. By comparison with other authorities, York had so far maintained spunking money up the wall despite grant cuts.

Part-time council worker Alexander James explained: “Although previous funding cuts have already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads, we recognise that what York residents really want is free wi-fi across the city centre, websites and leaflets that state the bleeding obvious and pointless road signage at the entrance to every cul-de-sac in my province”. When questioned about the validity of such spending, Mr. James continued: “Having had a Saturday job at Snappy Snaps, I’m probably better placed than most to decide what constitutes essential spending. It makes perfect financial sense.”

“After an extensive consultation process that involved me asking six of my best mates what they thought, it became clear that the people of York would much rather see valuable resources allocated to inadequate temporary road signs than have their bin emptied in a timely manner” reasoned David Ferrett, cabinet member for P*ss-ups and Breweries. “Cutting frontline services isn’t ideal, obviously, but the people of York have spoken. It would be undemocratic for City of York Council to go against the wishes of the majority of residents.”

84-year-old Gladys Knight, of Acomb agreed: “Last winter I slipped on an icy pavement and broke my hip, but it was totally worth it because now, thanks to the council’s spending policies, I can update my Facebook status almost anywhere in the city centre. I love it! No, I don’t use any social media, but it’s the principle of the thing isn’t it?” said Ms. Knight. “I’d even consider giving up Meals on Wheels if it meant doing my bit to free up half a million quid so that tourists didn’t have to sit at tables on uneven paving to enjoy over-priced hot chocolate.”
Utter genius, Sir I salute you.
[quote][p][bold]Gaylord Scruttock[/bold] wrote: "RESIDENTS PREFER ART BARGES TO GRITTED ROADS" INSISTS COUNCIL By Gaylord Scruttock - Hard pressed York residents today called for more art barges, 20 mph zones and trial bridge closures as council bosses announced further cuts to frontline services, the Press can reveal. By comparison with other authorities, York had so far maintained spunking money up the wall despite grant cuts. Part-time council worker Alexander James explained: “Although previous funding cuts have already led to the removal of salt bins, ending of the toy library bus and less gritting of roads, we recognise that what York residents really want is free wi-fi across the city centre, websites and leaflets that state the bleeding obvious and pointless road signage at the entrance to every cul-de-sac in my province”. When questioned about the validity of such spending, Mr. James continued: “Having had a Saturday job at Snappy Snaps, I’m probably better placed than most to decide what constitutes essential spending. It makes perfect financial sense.” “After an extensive consultation process that involved me asking six of my best mates what they thought, it became clear that the people of York would much rather see valuable resources allocated to inadequate temporary road signs than have their bin emptied in a timely manner” reasoned David Ferrett, cabinet member for P*ss-ups and Breweries. “Cutting frontline services isn’t ideal, obviously, but the people of York have spoken. It would be undemocratic for City of York Council to go against the wishes of the majority of residents.” 84-year-old Gladys Knight, of Acomb agreed: “Last winter I slipped on an icy pavement and broke my hip, but it was totally worth it because now, thanks to the council’s spending policies, I can update my Facebook status almost anywhere in the city centre. I love it! No, I don’t use any social media, but it’s the principle of the thing isn’t it?” said Ms. Knight. “I’d even consider giving up Meals on Wheels if it meant doing my bit to free up half a million quid so that tourists didn’t have to sit at tables on uneven paving to enjoy over-priced hot chocolate.”[/p][/quote]Utter genius, Sir I salute you. Ian Roscoe

7:36pm Thu 19 Dec 13

chelk says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
chelk wrote:
Wonder when the Alexander supporters are going to mobilise the troops to manipulate the voting figures on this story
It happens overnight

Interestingly when I told a councillor who posts here with a pseudonym that I was going to reveal who they all are before the next election, the ability to search through peoples comments was suddenly removed.
No it has happened already unless the Press are responsible
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: Wonder when the Alexander supporters are going to mobilise the troops to manipulate the voting figures on this story[/p][/quote]It happens overnight Interestingly when I told a councillor who posts here with a pseudonym that I was going to reveal who they all are before the next election, the ability to search through peoples comments was suddenly removed.[/p][/quote]No it has happened already unless the Press are responsible chelk

7:39pm Thu 19 Dec 13

chelk says...

First Council consultations are manipulated now the votes on this site are manipulated Big Brother is Watching You this is what I have come to expect from this lot if you cannot win the argument then manipulate the figures.
The Muppet Show Rolls On
First Council consultations are manipulated now the votes on this site are manipulated Big Brother is Watching You this is what I have come to expect from this lot if you cannot win the argument then manipulate the figures. The Muppet Show Rolls On chelk

7:47pm Thu 19 Dec 13

bolero says...

If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?
If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares? bolero

7:52pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Dr Brian says...

It is quite funny earlier today I said
"
It is the season of goodwill JA spread a lot of happiness to the good folk of York this Christmas and announce you are resigning from the York political scene.." and it had a plus score or more than 40 now it is minus 213 LOL Alexander and his hench mob are at it.

Sad thing is I voted for him last time (Yes I know it is my fault!) I will not vote for him again
It is quite funny earlier today I said " It is the season of goodwill JA spread a lot of happiness to the good folk of York this Christmas and announce you are resigning from the York political scene.." and it had a plus score or more than 40 now it is minus 213 LOL Alexander and his hench mob are at it. Sad thing is I voted for him last time (Yes I know it is my fault!) I will not vote for him again Dr Brian

7:55pm Thu 19 Dec 13

chelk says...

bolero wrote:
If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?
I do not think it is Alexander he is not clever enough to do it
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?[/p][/quote]I do not think it is Alexander he is not clever enough to do it chelk

8:34pm Thu 19 Dec 13

the famous one! says...

Terry smith york conservative fourth avenue,heworth york vote conservative in the 2015 york elections for optimism,hope and change and for a consrvative york council,that will give you the fine people of york a council that you can be truely proud of who will give you the york council tax payers more say on how and what your council tax will be sensibly spent on,like seeing yorks pot holed repaired and the salt and litter bins returned to the streets of york,no more pet projects and vanity schemes like the £500,000 spent on ruining kings square,and the £600,000 + spent on the 20 mph scheme £250.000 on a arts barge,£650,000+ on york tv the list goes on,re-opening of york lendal bridge,conservatives will limit council tax rises and apply for goverment funding to build more homes to help york people on yorks council waiting lists and re-view labours none viable affordale housing policy that is set far too high that is damaging yorks builders and yorks building industry.
Terry smith york conservative fourth avenue,heworth york vote conservative in the 2015 york elections for optimism,hope and change and for a consrvative york council,that will give you the fine people of york a council that you can be truely proud of who will give you the york council tax payers more say on how and what your council tax will be sensibly spent on,like seeing yorks pot holed repaired and the salt and litter bins returned to the streets of york,no more pet projects and vanity schemes like the £500,000 spent on ruining kings square,and the £600,000 + spent on the 20 mph scheme £250.000 on a arts barge,£650,000+ on york tv the list goes on,re-opening of york lendal bridge,conservatives will limit council tax rises and apply for goverment funding to build more homes to help york people on yorks council waiting lists and re-view labours none viable affordale housing policy that is set far too high that is damaging yorks builders and yorks building industry. the famous one!

8:42pm Thu 19 Dec 13

JasBro says...

chelk wrote:
bolero wrote:
If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?
I do not think it is Alexander he is not clever enough to do it
Agreed.

I've just seen acomblass's comment at the top go from -200 to +600 in ten minutes. Software glitch? Geeky prat having a laugh? Press messing about to get more views? Random number generator?

Who knows? But I very much doubt it's Cllr Alexander's work.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?[/p][/quote]I do not think it is Alexander he is not clever enough to do it[/p][/quote]Agreed. I've just seen acomblass's comment at the top go from -200 to +600 in ten minutes. Software glitch? Geeky prat having a laugh? Press messing about to get more views? Random number generator? Who knows? But I very much doubt it's Cllr Alexander's work. JasBro

9:16pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Silver says...

Council faces severe spending cuts, I'm surprised nobody else has come up with this genius idea, it worked so well the last time lets close another bridge, lets just do them all. We'll make a fortune in our coffers and plug the gap by making everyone not just unlucky tourists pay fines (Although they will never come back but get the cash in now and not think of that). The Uni's all want more space and I need more money so lets cut them a deal cut throat prices on the car parks for a fraction of the money, they're actually worth and deter tourists from getting easy access to the city centre. Basically lets plan for tomorrow and not for next week cos I'll just ask for an advance on my wage for that
Council faces severe spending cuts, I'm surprised nobody else has come up with this genius idea, it worked so well the last time lets close another bridge, lets just do them all. We'll make a fortune in our coffers and plug the gap by making everyone not just unlucky tourists pay fines (Although they will never come back but get the cash in now and not think of that). The Uni's all want more space and I need more money so lets cut them a deal cut throat prices on the car parks for a fraction of the money, they're actually worth and deter tourists from getting easy access to the city centre. Basically lets plan for tomorrow and not for next week cos I'll just ask for an advance on my wage for that Silver

9:52pm Thu 19 Dec 13

nowthen says...

JasBro wrote:
chelk wrote:
bolero wrote:
If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?
I do not think it is Alexander he is not clever enough to do it
Agreed.

I've just seen acomblass's comment at the top go from -200 to +600 in ten minutes. Software glitch? Geeky prat having a laugh? Press messing about to get more views? Random number generator?

Who knows? But I very much doubt it's Cllr Alexander's work.
I've done a bit of investigation and apparently even Alexander could do it or any poster on this website ! You don't have to be a computer geek , it's all to do with cookies ! P.S. I haven't done it , I value my integrity. Please can the Press get their software techs to sort it !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: If you are a Councillor do you get as many votes as you like on these postings? You have done yourself no favours Alexander except to prove that you are as devious as we all thought. Absolute desperation from a total wimp. Alright, 1500 thumbs down for this one. Who cares?[/p][/quote]I do not think it is Alexander he is not clever enough to do it[/p][/quote]Agreed. I've just seen acomblass's comment at the top go from -200 to +600 in ten minutes. Software glitch? Geeky prat having a laugh? Press messing about to get more views? Random number generator? Who knows? But I very much doubt it's Cllr Alexander's work.[/p][/quote]I've done a bit of investigation and apparently even Alexander could do it or any poster on this website ! You don't have to be a computer geek , it's all to do with cookies ! P.S. I haven't done it , I value my integrity. Please can the Press get their software techs to sort it !!!!!! nowthen

10:52pm Thu 19 Dec 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
No i pad on little Jimmy's Christmas (expenses) list this years then.
-603 likes and counting, looks like I have a lot of critics.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: No i pad on little Jimmy's Christmas (expenses) list this years then.[/p][/quote]-603 likes and counting, looks like I have a lot of critics. NoNewsIsGoodNews

1:52am Fri 20 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

One comment up there has 1140 'thumbs up'... even IF this page has had over 1000 readers there is no way everybody has voted on the comments. Can we plase have a purge of the comments that have obviously been hacked, or reset the whole system as it is just making a mockery of the system.... I am refusing to air my opion on this article simply because I saw the numbers below the comments near the top of the page and knew the page has been compromised.
One comment up there has 1140 'thumbs up'... even IF this page has had over 1000 readers there is no way everybody has voted on the comments. Can we plase have a purge of the comments that have obviously been hacked, or reset the whole system as it is just making a mockery of the system.... I am refusing to air my opion on this article simply because I saw the numbers below the comments near the top of the page and knew the page has been compromised. Magicman!

10:09am Fri 20 Dec 13

Priapus says...

Oh dear, some script kiddy has found a way to hack the scores on these comments.
Oh dear, some script kiddy has found a way to hack the scores on these comments. Priapus

10:21am Fri 20 Dec 13

Jeff_li says...

Could always trim a bit off Kersten England's £100K+ salary.
Could always trim a bit off Kersten England's £100K+ salary. Jeff_li

10:34am Fri 20 Dec 13

Dr Brian says...

Dr Brian wrote:
It is quite funny earlier today I said
"
It is the season of goodwill JA spread a lot of happiness to the good folk of York this Christmas and announce you are resigning from the York political scene.." and it had a plus score or more than 40 now it is minus 213 LOL Alexander and his hench mob are at it.

Sad thing is I voted for him last time (Yes I know it is my fault!) I will not vote for him again
It is now minus 2050 - LOL I know I talk a lot of crap but surely the Press should be looking into this manipulation of The JA Bully boys tactics of voting down any criticism of him.

The Press is now looking very silly if they totally ignore this issue.
[quote][p][bold]Dr Brian[/bold] wrote: It is quite funny earlier today I said " It is the season of goodwill JA spread a lot of happiness to the good folk of York this Christmas and announce you are resigning from the York political scene.." and it had a plus score or more than 40 now it is minus 213 LOL Alexander and his hench mob are at it. Sad thing is I voted for him last time (Yes I know it is my fault!) I will not vote for him again[/p][/quote]It is now minus 2050 - LOL I know I talk a lot of crap but surely the Press should be looking into this manipulation of The JA Bully boys tactics of voting down any criticism of him. The Press is now looking very silly if they totally ignore this issue. Dr Brian

10:40am Fri 20 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Someone spent a good few hours marking the scores down in low numbers (5 at a time) last night.

10pm they were at it, still at it after 12:15am.

Looks like obsessive behaviour, whoever it is, is probably close to a breakdown and is close to the story issue.

Just keep posting, they can't change the message.
Someone spent a good few hours marking the scores down in low numbers (5 at a time) last night. 10pm they were at it, still at it after 12:15am. Looks like obsessive behaviour, whoever it is, is probably close to a breakdown and is close to the story issue. Just keep posting, they can't change the message. YOUWILLDOASISAY

11:31am Fri 20 Dec 13

Pedro says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Someone spent a good few hours marking the scores down in low numbers (5 at a time) last night.

10pm they were at it, still at it after 12:15am.

Looks like obsessive behaviour, whoever it is, is probably close to a breakdown and is close to the story issue.

Just keep posting, they can't change the message.
My father had obsessive behaviour patterns. Later turned out to be a wasting disease of the mind.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Someone spent a good few hours marking the scores down in low numbers (5 at a time) last night. 10pm they were at it, still at it after 12:15am. Looks like obsessive behaviour, whoever it is, is probably close to a breakdown and is close to the story issue. Just keep posting, they can't change the message.[/p][/quote]My father had obsessive behaviour patterns. Later turned out to be a wasting disease of the mind. Pedro

12:14pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Madasanibbotson says...

Pedro wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Someone spent a good few hours marking the scores down in low numbers (5 at a time) last night.

10pm they were at it, still at it after 12:15am.

Looks like obsessive behaviour, whoever it is, is probably close to a breakdown and is close to the story issue.

Just keep posting, they can't change the message.
My father had obsessive behaviour patterns. Later turned out to be a wasting disease of the mind.
That will be time and a half for the council staff then.
[quote][p][bold]Pedro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Someone spent a good few hours marking the scores down in low numbers (5 at a time) last night. 10pm they were at it, still at it after 12:15am. Looks like obsessive behaviour, whoever it is, is probably close to a breakdown and is close to the story issue. Just keep posting, they can't change the message.[/p][/quote]My father had obsessive behaviour patterns. Later turned out to be a wasting disease of the mind.[/p][/quote]That will be time and a half for the council staff then. Madasanibbotson

2:44pm Fri 20 Dec 13

mike.......durkin says...

whith al the cuts we hope the rent and tax not going up for housing we all
having a hard time paying it in york....
whith al the cuts we hope the rent and tax not going up for housing we all having a hard time paying it in york.... mike.......durkin

3:04pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Von_Dutch says...

simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.
[quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built. Von_Dutch

3:37pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Happytoliveinyork says...

Von_Dutch wrote:
simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.
Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !!
[quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.[/p][/quote]Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !! Happytoliveinyork

5:00pm Fri 20 Dec 13

Madasanibbotson says...

VOTE RIGGING

The FOI request submitted to the council will show by day how many times the CYC computer system has logged onto the press site. Expect the number will have spiked on the 17th-20th Dec.
VOTE RIGGING The FOI request submitted to the council will show by day how many times the CYC computer system has logged onto the press site. Expect the number will have spiked on the 17th-20th Dec. Madasanibbotson

2:04am Sat 21 Dec 13

Von_Dutch says...

Happytoliveinyork wrote:
Von_Dutch wrote:
simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.
Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !!
Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.
[quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.[/p][/quote]Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !![/p][/quote]Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it. Von_Dutch

10:32am Sat 21 Dec 13

m dee says...

Von_Dutch wrote:
Happytoliveinyork wrote:
Von_Dutch wrote:
simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.
Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !!
Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.
Who is going to pay to maintain/grit it ? front line services are been cut back to the very basic.
[quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.[/p][/quote]Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !![/p][/quote]Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.[/p][/quote]Who is going to pay to maintain/grit it ? front line services are been cut back to the very basic. m dee

1:04pm Sat 21 Dec 13

azz70 says...

Expendisure 2012-2013 the council had 60m reserve funds and 6.4m in a saving account. The council spent 3.2m on bin collection vehicles now there's a waste of money if I ever did see one. They also spent close to 2 million more on upgrading council houses than they did on upgrading schools. They also received more income than expendisure so not wonder govemnet is cutting back because they simply don't need the extra money. It's the council making the good people of York suffer at the expense of lavish unneeded projects.
Expendisure 2012-2013 the council had 60m reserve funds and 6.4m in a saving account. The council spent 3.2m on bin collection vehicles now there's a waste of money if I ever did see one. They also spent close to 2 million more on upgrading council houses than they did on upgrading schools. They also received more income than expendisure so not wonder govemnet is cutting back because they simply don't need the extra money. It's the council making the good people of York suffer at the expense of lavish unneeded projects. azz70

4:25pm Sat 21 Dec 13

Igiveinthen says...

Magicman! wrote:
One comment up there has 1140 'thumbs up'... even IF this page has had over 1000 readers there is no way everybody has voted on the comments. Can we plase have a purge of the comments that have obviously been hacked, or reset the whole system as it is just making a mockery of the system.... I am refusing to air my opion on this article simply because I saw the numbers below the comments near the top of the page and knew the page has been compromised.
Maybe that's what whoever is behind this stupid marking down wants, hopes we will all stop commenting and criticising the Goon show we have for a council, they would make good comedians in my opinion. Keep commenting lads and lasses.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: One comment up there has 1140 'thumbs up'... even IF this page has had over 1000 readers there is no way everybody has voted on the comments. Can we plase have a purge of the comments that have obviously been hacked, or reset the whole system as it is just making a mockery of the system.... I am refusing to air my opion on this article simply because I saw the numbers below the comments near the top of the page and knew the page has been compromised.[/p][/quote]Maybe that's what whoever is behind this stupid marking down wants, hopes we will all stop commenting and criticising the Goon show we have for a council, they would make good comedians in my opinion. Keep commenting lads and lasses. Igiveinthen

9:02pm Sun 22 Dec 13

cas540 says...

The Muppets are talking of severe cutbacks on front line staff.Well over a year ago they asked the front line staff if any of them were interested in voluntary redundancies and had a few who applied for it.
These people have been left dangling since then with no reply but another request from the council about 6 months ago asking if they still were interested which again has led to no feedback from HR.
They keep asking their managers about this to no avail. They just get fobbed off with stupid remarks such as Nobody is going and then see the words of JA again threatening front line staff reduction.
To make a big decision like volunteering for redundancy is a task that requires thinking about very seriously and once a person has made that decision I think it is just appalling that they are left dangling on a string. Please can the council get their act together and help these people know where they stand.
The Muppets are talking of severe cutbacks on front line staff.Well over a year ago they asked the front line staff if any of them were interested in voluntary redundancies and had a few who applied for it. These people have been left dangling since then with no reply but another request from the council about 6 months ago asking if they still were interested which again has led to no feedback from HR. They keep asking their managers about this to no avail. They just get fobbed off with stupid remarks such as Nobody is going and then see the words of JA again threatening front line staff reduction. To make a big decision like volunteering for redundancy is a task that requires thinking about very seriously and once a person has made that decision I think it is just appalling that they are left dangling on a string. Please can the council get their act together and help these people know where they stand. cas540

1:40pm Mon 23 Dec 13

MarkyMarkMark says...

m dee wrote:
Von_Dutch wrote:
Happytoliveinyork wrote:
Von_Dutch wrote:
simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.
Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !!
Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.
Who is going to pay to maintain/grit it ? front line services are been cut back to the very basic.
When this cycle path gets finished next year, if it gets gritted it'll be mostly to do with the spray and muck coming off the road! I expect it'll go the same way as most off-road cycle tracks around the city - gritted eventually, if and when the bad weather has lasted enough days for all of the roads to have been gritted - i.e. after about 10 days of snow and ice, and after a few people have come off their bikes to prove it's slipperyness.

Despite loudly expressed views of the cycle hating minority, cycle routes around this city are little more than average, and they come complete with their own sets of potholes, lumps and bumps, stupidly places posts and signage, etc.. They don't get prioity treatment for anything, as far as I can tell.

The amount of money spent of cycle paths is minimal compared to the amount spent even on the most basic of road maintenance & safety work carried out by local councils (and most of it seems to be carried out by people who don't realise that the majority of bikes don't have hydraulic suspension!).
[quote][p][bold]m dee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.[/p][/quote]Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !![/p][/quote]Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.[/p][/quote]Who is going to pay to maintain/grit it ? front line services are been cut back to the very basic.[/p][/quote]When this cycle path gets finished next year, if it gets gritted it'll be mostly to do with the spray and muck coming off the road! I expect it'll go the same way as most off-road cycle tracks around the city - gritted eventually, if and when the bad weather has lasted enough days for all of the roads to have been gritted - i.e. after about 10 days of snow and ice, and after a few people have come off their bikes to prove it's slipperyness. Despite loudly expressed views of the cycle hating minority, cycle routes around this city are little more than average, and they come complete with their own sets of potholes, lumps and bumps, stupidly places posts and signage, etc.. They don't get prioity treatment for anything, as far as I can tell. The amount of money spent of cycle paths is minimal compared to the amount spent even on the most basic of road maintenance & safety work carried out by local councils (and most of it seems to be carried out by people who don't realise that the majority of bikes don't have hydraulic suspension!). MarkyMarkMark

5:05pm Mon 23 Dec 13

Igiveinthen says...

MarkyMarkMark wrote:
m dee wrote:
Von_Dutch wrote:
Happytoliveinyork wrote:
Von_Dutch wrote:
simon moreton wrote:
The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.
It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.
Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !!
Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.
Who is going to pay to maintain/grit it ? front line services are been cut back to the very basic.
When this cycle path gets finished next year, if it gets gritted it'll be mostly to do with the spray and muck coming off the road! I expect it'll go the same way as most off-road cycle tracks around the city - gritted eventually, if and when the bad weather has lasted enough days for all of the roads to have been gritted - i.e. after about 10 days of snow and ice, and after a few people have come off their bikes to prove it's slipperyness.

Despite loudly expressed views of the cycle hating minority, cycle routes around this city are little more than average, and they come complete with their own sets of potholes, lumps and bumps, stupidly places posts and signage, etc.. They don't get prioity treatment for anything, as far as I can tell.

The amount of money spent of cycle paths is minimal compared to the amount spent even on the most basic of road maintenance & safety work carried out by local councils (and most of it seems to be carried out by people who don't realise that the majority of bikes don't have hydraulic suspension!).
Cycle hating minority!!!, I think you mean majority my cycling chappie! Tonight as I was heading towards the station two cyclists with no lights passed me in the cycle lane, it makes my blood boil, if I drove my car with no lights because the bulbs had blown, bald tyres, no MOT etc., etc., etc. I would have the book thrown at me, you cyclists are a pain in the backside, moaning, moaning , moaning. WOW that feels better.
[quote][p][bold]MarkyMarkMark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]m dee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Von_Dutch[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]simon moreton[/bold] wrote: The cycle track a waste of time and money,I don't know if anyone else has noticed but it doesn't exist at its most dangerous point at the bridge over the rail line at the Haxby / New Earswick Roundabout. But That is what makes our council leaders SPECIAL,So Folks I suggest next time we get the chance to get to the polling stations we use our votes wisely and vote in the next set of idiots.[/p][/quote]It's NOT FINISHED! How many times do folk on here need telling? It can't just appear as a completed route overnight. Just because a bit of a path has been laid doesn't mean a thing. There's supposed to be a new bridge going in over the railway line but not until spring i hear. SO no, you won't see anyone using it as it's currently a completely redundant bit of tarmac until everything else has been built.[/p][/quote]Even when it is finished it will be A COMPLETE WASTE OF MONEY !![/p][/quote]Ok so that's your opinion. I personally disagree with u. But either way it's not coming from council tax rates. It's from a DFT grant. Yes ok that's still "taxpayers money" at the end of the day, but if York hadn't won it then some other City would have got it to spend instead. At least York get an asset out of it.[/p][/quote]Who is going to pay to maintain/grit it ? front line services are been cut back to the very basic.[/p][/quote]When this cycle path gets finished next year, if it gets gritted it'll be mostly to do with the spray and muck coming off the road! I expect it'll go the same way as most off-road cycle tracks around the city - gritted eventually, if and when the bad weather has lasted enough days for all of the roads to have been gritted - i.e. after about 10 days of snow and ice, and after a few people have come off their bikes to prove it's slipperyness. Despite loudly expressed views of the cycle hating minority, cycle routes around this city are little more than average, and they come complete with their own sets of potholes, lumps and bumps, stupidly places posts and signage, etc.. They don't get prioity treatment for anything, as far as I can tell. The amount of money spent of cycle paths is minimal compared to the amount spent even on the most basic of road maintenance & safety work carried out by local councils (and most of it seems to be carried out by people who don't realise that the majority of bikes don't have hydraulic suspension!).[/p][/quote]Cycle hating minority!!!, I think you mean majority my cycling chappie! Tonight as I was heading towards the station two cyclists with no lights passed me in the cycle lane, it makes my blood boil, if I drove my car with no lights because the bulbs had blown, bald tyres, no MOT etc., etc., etc. I would have the book thrown at me, you cyclists are a pain in the backside, moaning, moaning , moaning. WOW that feels better. Igiveinthen

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