Bid to combat zero hours contracts

York Press: Bid to combat zero hours contracts Bid to combat zero hours contracts

YORK’S political leaders say they will crack down on “zero hour” contracts being used by companies the city’s council deals with.

The contracts involve employees agreeing to be available to work when they are needed without working hours or times being specified. City of York Council’s ruling Labour group says this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty.

National statistics suggest almost 800 people in York could be on zero hour contracts.

Labour will table a motion at this week’s full council meeting aimed at ensuring the authority, as far as legally possible, does not allow their use by firms it buys from.

Westfield councillor Steve Burton, who will propose the motion, said: “The council does not employ people on zero hour contracts – we believe employing people on them is wrong and we are going to go further by exhibiting best practice in our procurement activity, ensuring we do not permit their exploitative use among the range of companies tendered by the council.”

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9:16am Mon 9 Dec 13

smudge2 says...

If you crack down on zero hours contracts where are the poor Roumanians & Bulgarians going to work when they arrive on January 1st. 2014 ??
If you crack down on zero hours contracts where are the poor Roumanians & Bulgarians going to work when they arrive on January 1st. 2014 ?? smudge2

9:55am Mon 9 Dec 13

markymmark says...

So Nestle to shut then !
So Nestle to shut then ! markymmark

10:55am Mon 9 Dec 13

MrsHoney says...

I know someone on one of these, it's ridiculous not knowing if he has any work each week. Even when he does get a shift they often send him home early so he doesn't get paid for a full one. I hope that the changes to national insurance payments for under 21's will help with this as it seems to me they try and keep people below a certain number of hours every week to avoid paying it. I could be wrong but can't understand why else they would employ lots of people who only get a couple of shifts a week.
I know someone on one of these, it's ridiculous not knowing if he has any work each week. Even when he does get a shift they often send him home early so he doesn't get paid for a full one. I hope that the changes to national insurance payments for under 21's will help with this as it seems to me they try and keep people below a certain number of hours every week to avoid paying it. I could be wrong but can't understand why else they would employ lots of people who only get a couple of shifts a week. MrsHoney

11:46am Mon 9 Dec 13

courier46 says...

This is the only thing that I agree with this Labour council on.Zero hours are very wrong and I`m surprised firms are allowed to get away with using them they should be ashamed.
This is the only thing that I agree with this Labour council on.Zero hours are very wrong and I`m surprised firms are allowed to get away with using them they should be ashamed. courier46

1:08pm Mon 9 Dec 13

MrATP1982 says...

Are the council going to pay more to social care providers then? While zero hour contracts are often abused in social care by employers, I work for an social care charity that would like to have all our support workers on contracts. However, the way that social care works forces our costs down as well as expecting us to set up teams of support workers as quickly as possible. We, therefore, have a small number of support workers on zero-hour contracts ready for if when we get new work in - often via social services. If we were able to charge more for our work then we could offer retainer contracts to bridge the gap between employing new staff and getting new work. With background checks sometimes taking months we need support workers already employed and trained before we start any new work.
Are the council going to pay more to social care providers then? While zero hour contracts are often abused in social care by employers, I work for an social care charity that would like to have all our support workers on contracts. However, the way that social care works forces our costs down as well as expecting us to set up teams of support workers as quickly as possible. We, therefore, have a small number of support workers on zero-hour contracts ready for if when we get new work in - often via social services. If we were able to charge more for our work then we could offer retainer contracts to bridge the gap between employing new staff and getting new work. With background checks sometimes taking months we need support workers already employed and trained before we start any new work. MrATP1982

3:06pm Mon 9 Dec 13

only human says...

i dont see the difference between zero hours contracts and the local authorities talent pool or casual workforce set up.
i know people who work alongside me who are totally trapped by such system from week to week and sometimes day to day to supply them with work.
I am talking here about people who have worked on average 35-60 hors per week over the last 3-5 years doing the same role in the same workplace as i work.
The difference between them and me is that i have a proper contract of employments which stipulates my weekly hours of work as 20.I can choose to add to this by picking up extra shifts for uncovered wotking hours or to cover holidays and sickness absence.
These fellow workers have no such contract they are merely on a list of peoples names who are willing to work at the place and time available with notice varying from a few hours to a whole month in adavnce.
They basically wait to receive a phone call then sit with their diaries and listen to what shifts are available and say whether or nit they want to do them.
The person ringing them then moves down the list to the next person until all hours are covered.
Its all about paying peanuts
The majority of these fellow workers just want a contract so they can plan their future,is that too much to ask.
i dont see the difference between zero hours contracts and the local authorities talent pool or casual workforce set up. i know people who work alongside me who are totally trapped by such system from week to week and sometimes day to day to supply them with work. I am talking here about people who have worked on average 35-60 hors per week over the last 3-5 years doing the same role in the same workplace as i work. The difference between them and me is that i have a proper contract of employments which stipulates my weekly hours of work as 20.I can choose to add to this by picking up extra shifts for uncovered wotking hours or to cover holidays and sickness absence. These fellow workers have no such contract they are merely on a list of peoples names who are willing to work at the place and time available with notice varying from a few hours to a whole month in adavnce. They basically wait to receive a phone call then sit with their diaries and listen to what shifts are available and say whether or nit they want to do them. The person ringing them then moves down the list to the next person until all hours are covered. Its all about paying peanuts The majority of these fellow workers just want a contract so they can plan their future,is that too much to ask. only human

4:28am Tue 10 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

HYPROCRITES! The council is a bunch of hyprocrites.... they say "this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty" - and yet go to the jobs website for city of york council and what do you see? "CASUAL..", "CASUAL....", "CASUAL....", 'Casual' means Zero-Hours; perhaps the council should look at themselves first before turning their attention on others!
HYPROCRITES! The council is a bunch of hyprocrites.... they say "this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty" - and yet go to the jobs website for city of york council and what do you see? "CASUAL..", "CASUAL....", "CASUAL....", 'Casual' means Zero-Hours; perhaps the council should look at themselves first before turning their attention on others! Magicman!

10:18am Tue 10 Dec 13

inthesticks says...

Magicman! wrote:
HYPROCRITES! The council is a bunch of hyprocrites.... they say "this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty" - and yet go to the jobs website for city of york council and what do you see? "CASUAL..", "CASUAL....", "CASUAL....", 'Casual' means Zero-Hours; perhaps the council should look at themselves first before turning their attention on others!
When I read this story on Monday morning I felt exactly the same as you and sent Westfield councillor Steve Burton an email asking him why he said what he did in this story when there are hundreds of staff at COYC on casual contracts.
The council made hundreds of contracted staff redundant over the last few years and now we have a situation in York where hundreds have no job security, no pensions and lower pay. They are currently still offering lots of jobs on the website as casual.
The cafe in the council offices employs people with special needs from a charity that only pays minimum wage! That`s exploitation in my view.
Guess what, Cllr Burton has not deemed it necessary to reply to my email.
It`s not just hypocritical, it`s a lie.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: HYPROCRITES! The council is a bunch of hyprocrites.... they say "this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty" - and yet go to the jobs website for city of york council and what do you see? "CASUAL..", "CASUAL....", "CASUAL....", 'Casual' means Zero-Hours; perhaps the council should look at themselves first before turning their attention on others![/p][/quote]When I read this story on Monday morning I felt exactly the same as you and sent Westfield councillor Steve Burton an email asking him why he said what he did in this story when there are hundreds of staff at COYC on casual contracts. The council made hundreds of contracted staff redundant over the last few years and now we have a situation in York where hundreds have no job security, no pensions and lower pay. They are currently still offering lots of jobs on the website as casual. The cafe in the council offices employs people with special needs from a charity that only pays minimum wage! That`s exploitation in my view. Guess what, Cllr Burton has not deemed it necessary to reply to my email. It`s not just hypocritical, it`s a lie. inthesticks

3:59am Thu 12 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

inthesticks wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
HYPROCRITES! The council is a bunch of hyprocrites.... they say "this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty" - and yet go to the jobs website for city of york council and what do you see? "CASUAL..", "CASUAL....", "CASUAL....", 'Casual' means Zero-Hours; perhaps the council should look at themselves first before turning their attention on others!
When I read this story on Monday morning I felt exactly the same as you and sent Westfield councillor Steve Burton an email asking him why he said what he did in this story when there are hundreds of staff at COYC on casual contracts.
The council made hundreds of contracted staff redundant over the last few years and now we have a situation in York where hundreds have no job security, no pensions and lower pay. They are currently still offering lots of jobs on the website as casual.
The cafe in the council offices employs people with special needs from a charity that only pays minimum wage! That`s exploitation in my view.
Guess what, Cllr Burton has not deemed it necessary to reply to my email.
It`s not just hypocritical, it`s a lie.
Exactly... they should be looking inward before trying to force other employers to change things.
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: HYPROCRITES! The council is a bunch of hyprocrites.... they say "this provides no job security or a guaranteed income and ending their use is needed to tackle poverty" - and yet go to the jobs website for city of york council and what do you see? "CASUAL..", "CASUAL....", "CASUAL....", 'Casual' means Zero-Hours; perhaps the council should look at themselves first before turning their attention on others![/p][/quote]When I read this story on Monday morning I felt exactly the same as you and sent Westfield councillor Steve Burton an email asking him why he said what he did in this story when there are hundreds of staff at COYC on casual contracts. The council made hundreds of contracted staff redundant over the last few years and now we have a situation in York where hundreds have no job security, no pensions and lower pay. They are currently still offering lots of jobs on the website as casual. The cafe in the council offices employs people with special needs from a charity that only pays minimum wage! That`s exploitation in my view. Guess what, Cllr Burton has not deemed it necessary to reply to my email. It`s not just hypocritical, it`s a lie.[/p][/quote]Exactly... they should be looking inward before trying to force other employers to change things. Magicman!

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