York family’s damp curse

Donna D’Arcy with children Lee and Lucas in her flat.

A damp patch at the family’s home in Regent Street, York

Updated in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by

We launched our Stamp Out Poverty campaign to raise awareness of the many people struggling to make ends meet. KATE LIPTROT talks to one family living in difficult conditions.

IN a one-bedroom flat, plagued with mould, mum Donna D’Arcy fears for the health of her two young children.

Donna, 20, her partner, Scott, and her children Lucas, three, and Lee, 11 months, all share a bedroom at their home in Regent Street, near the city centre. There is mould on the walls.

Donna said the situation is becoming increasingly unbearable. Lee, who is teething and who cries through the night, has developed a bad cough which Donna believes is linked to the flat’s damp conditions.

She said she is especially worried as her friend Kia Stone’s 11-month-old daughter, Telan Carlton, died suddenly last October after being taken ill at her family’s damp one-bedroom flat in Chapelfields, Donna said: “Lee has a bad chest and does nothing but cough. I’m worried about the health of my children.

“My dad has asthma, and even when he comes round he can’t stay for more than 20 minutes. His chest starts playing up because of the damp and mould.

“My family say it’s disgraceful. They say the council needs to start looking after families like mine and treating them as a priority.”

Donna, who admits she has rent arrears, said she was allocated the flat three years ago when she was a single mother to Lucas. She has since got together with Scott and given birth to Lee.

She said she has attended a couple of council housing advice sessions at York Library, but has been unable to secure a new home.

Steve Waddington, City of York Council’s assistant director for housing and community safety, said: “We originally allocated this flat to Ms D’Arcy and her oldest child – then aged eight months – in line with the policy at the time.

“However, since then, she has had another child and her partner has moved in. As a result of these changes to her household, her transfer application has been awarded higher priority.

“We have replaced the standard extractor fan with a humidity controlled one and, as we do with all tenants, provide advice on ventilating and heating their home to mininise condensation.

“To secure a transfer, all existing tenants must be up to date with their rent and ensure their application is up to date. Support with paying off arrears is available through the estate managers, through the sessions listed below and via the CAB on 0844 826 9705.

“Tenants are also advised to maximise their chances of securing a move by frequently bidding on as wide a variety of home and locations as possible via northyorkshirehomechoice.org.uk and at homeswapper.co.uk, which is free for social housing tenants.

“People can also look at available options at york.gov.uk/housing/Affordable_housing/ or phone our housing registrations team on 01904 554044. Free internet access and help to use it, if needed, is available at any council library and the customer centre in Library Square.”

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8:43am Wed 20 Feb 13

yorkiespur says...

It's all the councils fault blah blah blah. if her and her partner don't like it they should sort it out themselves, pay their arrears etc.

They can probably solve the mould and damp by opening the windows and letting some air circulate!!
It's all the councils fault blah blah blah. if her and her partner don't like it they should sort it out themselves, pay their arrears etc. They can probably solve the mould and damp by opening the windows and letting some air circulate!! yorkiespur
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8:49am Wed 20 Feb 13

lowbeam says...

They can probably solve the mould and damp by opening the windows and letting some air circulate!!...
...Yes,what a good idea,let's all leave our windows open and let the rain and snow in..NOT
You Pil**ck!
They can probably solve the mould and damp by opening the windows and letting some air circulate!!... ...Yes,what a good idea,let's all leave our windows open and let the rain and snow in..NOT You Pil**ck! lowbeam
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8:53am Wed 20 Feb 13

Micklegate says...

So she was struglling financially with one child.............so then she thought she'd have another child..........ok we'll pay. As long as she doesn't have to go without.............
.is she deliberately taking the mickey by having two quality TVs in the picture?
So she was struglling financially with one child.............so then she thought she'd have another child..........ok we'll pay. As long as she doesn't have to go without............. .is she deliberately taking the mickey by having two quality TVs in the picture? Micklegate
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9:01am Wed 20 Feb 13

Shouter says...

She's very lucky to have somewhere to live. A lot of people don't.
She's very lucky to have somewhere to live. A lot of people don't. Shouter
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9:13am Wed 20 Feb 13

Hilly rides Horses says...

‘Donna, 20, her partner, Scott, and her children Lucas, three, and Lee, 11 months, all share a bedroom at their home in Regent Street, near the city centre. There is mould on the walls. ‘

Here are a few tips to take charge of your own life and not be a so called ‘victim’.

1. Clean off the mould on the walls yourself. Do not rely on others to do everything for you ie. The council.

2. Think about your personal circumstances and how they would be adversely affected by significant change. The clue is in the title ‘Family Planning’.

3. This is as usual treating the symptoms rather than getting to the root cause of the problem and that is that some people expect the state to look after them whatever they do or don’t do and pay for everything. It is a mentality that is bankrupting this country.



‘She said she is especially worried as her friend Kia Stone’s 11-month-old daughter, Telan Carlton, died suddenly last October after being taken ill at her family’s damp one-bedroom flat in Chapelfields’

The hint in this statement as to the cause of death is irrelevant as the cause of death is still to be declared by the coroner.
Any speculation to the cause of death would be tantamount to contempt of court.


I see Lowbeam is here supporting the single mother with an insult to a poster whatever constructive comments are raised….. again just like last time when ‘Landed Gentry’ made a point Lowbeam made a hollow threat that he would require a brief…..

They are comments! Do not court publicity if you are not prepared to take support or indeed flak, particularly in these fiscally challenging times for the taxpayer!
‘Donna, 20, her partner, Scott, and her children Lucas, three, and Lee, 11 months, all share a bedroom at their home in Regent Street, near the city centre. There is mould on the walls. ‘ Here are a few tips to take charge of your own life and not be a so called ‘victim’. 1. Clean off the mould on the walls yourself. Do not rely on others to do everything for you ie. The council. 2. Think about your personal circumstances and how they would be adversely affected by significant change. The clue is in the title ‘Family Planning’. 3. This is as usual treating the symptoms rather than getting to the root cause of the problem and that is that some people expect the state to look after them whatever they do or don’t do and pay for everything. It is a mentality that is bankrupting this country. ‘She said she is especially worried as her friend Kia Stone’s 11-month-old daughter, Telan Carlton, died suddenly last October after being taken ill at her family’s damp one-bedroom flat in Chapelfields’ The hint in this statement as to the cause of death is irrelevant as the cause of death is still to be declared by the coroner. Any speculation to the cause of death would be tantamount to contempt of court. I see Lowbeam is here supporting the single mother with an insult to a poster whatever constructive comments are raised….. again just like last time when ‘Landed Gentry’ made a point Lowbeam made a hollow threat that he would require a brief….. They are comments! Do not court publicity if you are not prepared to take support or indeed flak, particularly in these fiscally challenging times for the taxpayer! Hilly rides Horses
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9:16am Wed 20 Feb 13

Pete the Brickie says...

The flat was given to the mother, the new boyfriend has no legal right to be there what so ever, in fact the council's next action should be to ask him to leave as the property is clearly not suitable for two adults and two children on child wellfare grounds. The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo and is far better at reducing damp and improving her children's health.
The flat was given to the mother, the new boyfriend has no legal right to be there what so ever, in fact the council's next action should be to ask him to leave as the property is clearly not suitable for two adults and two children on child wellfare grounds. The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo and is far better at reducing damp and improving her children's health. Pete the Brickie
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9:25am Wed 20 Feb 13

Theendoftheworld says...

2 quality tv's? The one on the left looks like one of those big old ones to me! Heaven forbid that the poor of this country should own a little flat-sreen.
Wouldn't surprise me if they even have a microwave - cheeky blighters!
2 quality tv's? The one on the left looks like one of those big old ones to me! Heaven forbid that the poor of this country should own a little flat-sreen. Wouldn't surprise me if they even have a microwave - cheeky blighters! Theendoftheworld
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9:29am Wed 20 Feb 13

Eric Olthwaite says...

Timing of this story is interesting!
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/education-2151
1583

I do not see York in this top list:

Constituencies with highest levels of child poverty
• 47% Manchester Central
• 43% Belfast West
• 43% Glasgow North East
• 42% Birmingham Ladywood
• 42% Bethnal Green and Bow
• 42% Liverpool Riverside
• 41% Poplar and Limehouse
• 40% Middlesbrough
• 38% Blackley and Broughton
• 38% Newcastle upon Tyne Central

Constituencies with lowest levels of child poverty
• Under 5% Sheffield Hallam
• 5% Kenilworth and Southam
• 5% South Northamptonshire
• 5% Haltemprice and Howden
• 5% Rushcliffe
• 6% Wimbledon
• 6% Skipton and Ripon
• 6% Stone
• 6% Beckenham
• 6% South Leicestershire

Therefore logically York must be somewhere in between.

The Stamp out Poverty campaign is all very well and is an example of big business corporate social responsibility but I really don’t see this going anywhere near to success in reality especially in times of austerity and as the examples we have been shown are examples that some including myself feel are self-inflicted!

Does anybody actually think that The Press can overcome the unfairness of life in a capitalist society with the present situation?
A few bridges too far me thinks.
Timing of this story is interesting! http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/education-2151 1583 I do not see York in this top list: Constituencies with highest levels of child poverty • 47% Manchester Central • 43% Belfast West • 43% Glasgow North East • 42% Birmingham Ladywood • 42% Bethnal Green and Bow • 42% Liverpool Riverside • 41% Poplar and Limehouse • 40% Middlesbrough • 38% Blackley and Broughton • 38% Newcastle upon Tyne Central Constituencies with lowest levels of child poverty • Under 5% Sheffield Hallam • 5% Kenilworth and Southam • 5% South Northamptonshire • 5% Haltemprice and Howden • 5% Rushcliffe • 6% Wimbledon • 6% Skipton and Ripon • 6% Stone • 6% Beckenham • 6% South Leicestershire Therefore logically York must be somewhere in between. The Stamp out Poverty campaign is all very well and is an example of big business corporate social responsibility but I really don’t see this going anywhere near to success in reality especially in times of austerity and as the examples we have been shown are examples that some including myself feel are self-inflicted! Does anybody actually think that The Press can overcome the unfairness of life in a capitalist society with the present situation? A few bridges too far me thinks. Eric Olthwaite
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10:01am Wed 20 Feb 13

Mulgrave says...

lowbeam wrote:
They can probably solve the mould and damp by opening the windows and letting some air circulate!!...
...Yes,what a good idea,let's all leave our windows open and let the rain and snow in..NOT
You Pil**ck!
Unless there are structural defects in the property, mould arises after water vapour has condensed on the walls or ceilings which are the coldest. One of the simplest ways to reduce the amount of water held in the air is to open the window a little as yorkiespur says and particularly if clothes are dried inside or after anything that produces steam. Even cooking with gas is a source of water vapour. Over the years I have come across alot more condensation problems in properties with upvc windows than those retaining the 'draughty' old wooden sash windows.
[quote][p][bold]lowbeam[/bold] wrote: They can probably solve the mould and damp by opening the windows and letting some air circulate!!... ...Yes,what a good idea,let's all leave our windows open and let the rain and snow in..NOT You Pil**ck![/p][/quote]Unless there are structural defects in the property, mould arises after water vapour has condensed on the walls or ceilings which are the coldest. One of the simplest ways to reduce the amount of water held in the air is to open the window a little as yorkiespur says and particularly if clothes are dried inside or after anything that produces steam. Even cooking with gas is a source of water vapour. Over the years I have come across alot more condensation problems in properties with upvc windows than those retaining the 'draughty' old wooden sash windows. Mulgrave
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10:13am Wed 20 Feb 13

openallhours says...

Single Mum with child takes a flat paid for by the tax payer. Single Mum with child meets somebody and has another child and stays in same property still paid for by the tax payer. Flat no longer suitable so bigger property will be provided by the tax payer.

Hopefully there aren't many cases of this type of thing as it could be costly for the tax payer.
Single Mum with child takes a flat paid for by the tax payer. Single Mum with child meets somebody and has another child and stays in same property still paid for by the tax payer. Flat no longer suitable so bigger property will be provided by the tax payer. Hopefully there aren't many cases of this type of thing as it could be costly for the tax payer. openallhours
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11:13am Wed 20 Feb 13

electricwarrior says...

The family have got their priorities wrong as most people in their situation have. Expect everything to be done for them. No wonder this country is in such a state. Some people are all take, take, take.
The family have got their priorities wrong as most people in their situation have. Expect everything to be done for them. No wonder this country is in such a state. Some people are all take, take, take. electricwarrior
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11:23am Wed 20 Feb 13

Capt. Dobie says...

"The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo..."

No it isn't- I'm on the market for one. They cost at LEAST £150 and the Energy Savings Trust sez they use kWh like a tumble dryer...i.e., not cheap at all.

Also, mould spores once in the fabric of the building (i.e. a layer of plaster) are there until that contaminated plaster is removed. Ventilation does help if BALENCED with the need to heat the flat. Until the flat is re-plastered, spores remain.

Don't blame the nippers- they weren't asked to be born. Hillery's point 3 is spot-on; family planning. Advice & condoms are free.
"The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo..." No it isn't- I'm on the market for one. They cost at LEAST £150 and the Energy Savings Trust sez they use kWh like a tumble dryer...i.e., not cheap at all. Also, mould spores once in the fabric of the building (i.e. a layer of plaster) are there until that contaminated plaster is removed. Ventilation does help if BALENCED with the need to heat the flat. Until the flat is re-plastered, spores remain. Don't blame the nippers- they weren't asked to be born. Hillery's point 3 is spot-on; family planning. Advice & condoms are free. Capt. Dobie
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11:34am Wed 20 Feb 13

Mulgrave says...

Capt. Dobie wrote:
"The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo..."

No it isn't- I'm on the market for one. They cost at LEAST £150 and the Energy Savings Trust sez they use kWh like a tumble dryer...i.e., not cheap at all.

Also, mould spores once in the fabric of the building (i.e. a layer of plaster) are there until that contaminated plaster is removed. Ventilation does help if BALENCED with the need to heat the flat. Until the flat is re-plastered, spores remain.

Don't blame the nippers- they weren't asked to be born. Hillery's point 3 is spot-on; family planning. Advice & condoms are free.
It is a good point regarding the balance of ventilation and heating, too little heat and there are problems, but the warmer the air the more moisture it can hold, so an overheated room, especially if the temperature drops at night can be more of a problem.
[quote][p][bold]Capt. Dobie[/bold] wrote: "The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo..." No it isn't- I'm on the market for one. They cost at LEAST £150 and the Energy Savings Trust sez they use kWh like a tumble dryer...i.e., not cheap at all. Also, mould spores once in the fabric of the building (i.e. a layer of plaster) are there until that contaminated plaster is removed. Ventilation does help if BALENCED with the need to heat the flat. Until the flat is re-plastered, spores remain. Don't blame the nippers- they weren't asked to be born. Hillery's point 3 is spot-on; family planning. Advice & condoms are free.[/p][/quote]It is a good point regarding the balance of ventilation and heating, too little heat and there are problems, but the warmer the air the more moisture it can hold, so an overheated room, especially if the temperature drops at night can be more of a problem. Mulgrave
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12:08pm Wed 20 Feb 13

THE_JABINATOR says...

2 kids to 2 different men and she is only 20. She hasn't made any finanacial contribution to society. This is your typical sponger who thinks she is owed something. I know working people of her age who won't be given a council flat and can't afford to private rent. It is people like her who are ruining society. She should be happy that the council have provided her a flat - not moaning about it.
2 kids to 2 different men and she is only 20. She hasn't made any finanacial contribution to society. This is your typical sponger who thinks she is owed something. I know working people of her age who won't be given a council flat and can't afford to private rent. It is people like her who are ruining society. She should be happy that the council have provided her a flat - not moaning about it. THE_JABINATOR
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12:49pm Wed 20 Feb 13

TheTruthHurts says...

It pains me to say it but this young lady comes across as being very selfish.

“My family say it’s disgraceful. They say the council needs to start looking after families like mine and treating them as a priority.”

Donna, who admits she has rent arrears, said she was allocated the flat three years ago when she was a single mother to Lucas. She has since got together with Scott and given birth to Lee.


Just confirms it. What a sorry state we are in today
It pains me to say it but this young lady comes across as being very selfish. [quote] “My family say it’s disgraceful. They say the council needs to start looking after families like mine and treating them as a priority.” Donna, who admits she has rent arrears, said she was allocated the flat three years ago when she was a single mother to Lucas. She has since got together with Scott and given birth to Lee. [/quote] Just confirms it. What a sorry state we are in today TheTruthHurts
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1:37pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Kevin Turvey says...

‘My family say it’s disgraceful. They say the council needs to start looking after families like mine and treating them as a priority.’

Priority over who? People who contribute… I don’t think so!

What are the council to do?
They have already educated you but you have failed to take advantage of that education and fallen back to the human being default….. just breed, unnecessarily so!

Me me me me me me me me me me.

And I have to do nothing towards it myself!

Contribute nothing to society but take everything that is available and then moan that it is not enough!

What a state we are in if this is the future!

What sort of education system/society leaves people with life expectations so low and yet demand that they are taken care of?

No aspirations of attempting to try to get a job/career/own home/qualifications/
money/savings/travel
/social life/sporting achievements etc etc.
Only not looking forward to a life of poor drudgery living in a sh!thole council flat in a grim area with grim people.

Yet again self-inflicted!
‘My family say it’s disgraceful. They say the council needs to start looking after families like mine and treating them as a priority.’ Priority over who? People who contribute… I don’t think so! What are the council to do? They have already educated you but you have failed to take advantage of that education and fallen back to the human being default….. just breed, unnecessarily so! Me me me me me me me me me me. And I have to do nothing towards it myself! Contribute nothing to society but take everything that is available and then moan that it is not enough! What a state we are in if this is the future! What sort of education system/society leaves people with life expectations so low and yet demand that they are taken care of? No aspirations of attempting to try to get a job/career/own home/qualifications/ money/savings/travel /social life/sporting achievements etc etc. Only not looking forward to a life of poor drudgery living in a sh!thole council flat in a grim area with grim people. Yet again self-inflicted! Kevin Turvey
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1:43pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Pete the Brickie says...




Capt. Dobie says...
11:23am Wed 20 Feb 13

"The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo..."

No it isn't- I'm on the market for one. They cost at LEAST £150 and the Energy Savings Trust sez they use kWh like a tumble dryer...i.e., not cheap at all.



I said small, not industrial, I bought one recently for £50 that removes 300ml a day from a 15m2 room using at 0.048KWH, a typical TV uses about 0.3KWH watts and a tumble dryer nearer 2. The twelve litre per day machines you refer to are for assisting the drying of large areas of new plaster or wet plaster following burst pipes and the like as opposed to preventing a few dark blobs of mould in a small flat caused by over occupancy.
[quote] Capt. Dobie says... 11:23am Wed 20 Feb 13 "The mother will also find that a small dehumidifier costs far less to buy and run than the large TV in the photo..." No it isn't- I'm on the market for one. They cost at LEAST £150 and the Energy Savings Trust sez they use kWh like a tumble dryer...i.e., not cheap at all. [/quote] I said small, not industrial, I bought one recently for £50 that removes 300ml a day from a 15m2 room using at 0.048KWH, a typical TV uses about 0.3KWH watts and a tumble dryer nearer 2. The twelve litre per day machines you refer to are for assisting the drying of large areas of new plaster or wet plaster following burst pipes and the like as opposed to preventing a few dark blobs of mould in a small flat caused by over occupancy. Pete the Brickie
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1:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13

alfie says...

Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?
Is that a can of special brew next to the computer? alfie
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2:15pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Hilly rides Horses says...

‘alfie says... 1:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13
Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?’

Looks suspiciously like one to me!
That’s not cheap lager!

Also have you seen the amount of toys lying about?
Loads, I never had many when I was a nipper and both of my parents worked!

Also what is the white box under the TV? Is that a sky box or similar?

Have a look at the other picture at the top of the ‘story’ of the example of the ‘damp patch’.
If you removed the paper in that area and the background paper it would not be there!

Also the curtain/nets want a run through the washing machine as well.

The whole lot of jobs would take almost a whole hour, nearly worth calling out the council to do for you!

If that is the extent of the so called damp in this property then it’s a poor example to sway the arguement!

Sorry, you are meant to have your heartstrings tugged because there is an extremely tenuous link (because she knew here) to a previous yet unattributed death!


The headline:
‘York Family’s Damp Curse’

Talk about twaddle!


In dictionary corner :- curse

the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
the act of reciting such a formula.
a profane oath; curse word.
an evil that has been invoked upon one.


It is all self-inflicted not somebody else’s will. Therefore can be remedied by self as well!
‘alfie says... 1:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13 Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?’ Looks suspiciously like one to me! That’s not cheap lager! Also have you seen the amount of toys lying about? Loads, I never had many when I was a nipper and both of my parents worked! Also what is the white box under the TV? Is that a sky box or similar? Have a look at the other picture at the top of the ‘story’ of the example of the ‘damp patch’. If you removed the paper in that area and the background paper it would not be there! Also the curtain/nets want a run through the washing machine as well. The whole lot of jobs would take almost a whole hour, nearly worth calling out the council to do for you! If that is the extent of the so called damp in this property then it’s a poor example to sway the arguement! Sorry, you are meant to have your heartstrings tugged because there is an extremely tenuous link (because she knew here) to a previous yet unattributed death! The headline: ‘York Family’s Damp Curse’ Talk about twaddle! In dictionary corner :- curse the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another. the act of reciting such a formula. a profane oath; curse word. an evil that has been invoked upon one. It is all self-inflicted not somebody else’s will. Therefore can be remedied by self as well! Hilly rides Horses
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2:55pm Wed 20 Feb 13

xxwitchyxx says...

Dettol mould and mildew remover is brilliant, go buy a bottle,
Dettol mould and mildew remover is brilliant, go buy a bottle, xxwitchyxx
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3:40pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Buzz Light-year says...

If you have a damp curse you need a damp course.
If you have a damp curse you need a damp course. Buzz Light-year
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4:33pm Wed 20 Feb 13

yorkiespur says...

the tragedy of all this is that there are literally hundreds of these people around.

Never contributed anything and expect everything done for them!

Lets all write to this woman and apologise, we're clearly not doing enough for her, perhaps i can give her some money directly, she clearly deserves it..... hhmmmmm

CAN'T EVEN BE BOTHERED TO REMOVE A CAN OF SPECIAL BREW FROM THE SIDE WHEN THE PRESS PHOTOGRAPHER IS COMING ROUND!!!! O. M. G.
the tragedy of all this is that there are literally hundreds of these people around. Never contributed anything and expect everything done for them! Lets all write to this woman and apologise, we're clearly not doing enough for her, perhaps i can give her some money directly, she clearly deserves it..... hhmmmmm CAN'T EVEN BE BOTHERED TO REMOVE A CAN OF SPECIAL BREW FROM THE SIDE WHEN THE PRESS PHOTOGRAPHER IS COMING ROUND!!!! O. M. G. yorkiespur
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5:43pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. It's not a beer can either. The kids are dressed well and look OK to me. If the Council don't solve it I wouldn't pay them any rent either!

Damp is cured so simply as some suggest here so what's stopping the council?

No matter she's had two kiddies to different dads, its not a crime.
I'll give her the benefit of the doubt. It's not a beer can either. The kids are dressed well and look OK to me. If the Council don't solve it I wouldn't pay them any rent either! Damp is cured so simply as some suggest here so what's stopping the council? No matter she's had two kiddies to different dads, its not a crime. Garrowby Turnoff
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7:00pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Mullarkian says...

Why don't her and her bloke try cleaning the mould off and ventilating the place.
They must be able to afford the benefits she'll get for being single with two sprogs.
She'll be knocking another one out to get more money soon.
She'll be wanting someone to go around and wipe her backside next.
They make you sick, always wanting something for nothing, put her in a tent.
Why don't her and her bloke try cleaning the mould off and ventilating the place. They must be able to afford the benefits she'll get for being single with two sprogs. She'll be knocking another one out to get more money soon. She'll be wanting someone to go around and wipe her backside next. They make you sick, always wanting something for nothing, put her in a tent. Mullarkian
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9:44pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Buzz Light-year says...

alfie wrote:
Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?
Never mind that, look at that red tub next to the armchair!
It's got to be full of drugs paraphernalia and bomb-making equipment.

I bet she keeps the curtains closed in the daytime too.
[quote][p][bold]alfie[/bold] wrote: Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?[/p][/quote]Never mind that, look at that red tub next to the armchair! It's got to be full of drugs paraphernalia and bomb-making equipment. I bet she keeps the curtains closed in the daytime too. Buzz Light-year
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11:08pm Wed 20 Feb 13

Paul Meoff says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
alfie wrote:
Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?
Never mind that, look at that red tub next to the armchair!
It's got to be full of drugs paraphernalia and bomb-making equipment.

I bet she keeps the curtains closed in the daytime too.
Not sure if it is spesh. But what if it is? The kids need something to take their minds off the damp surroundings.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]alfie[/bold] wrote: Is that a can of special brew next to the computer?[/p][/quote]Never mind that, look at that red tub next to the armchair! It's got to be full of drugs paraphernalia and bomb-making equipment. I bet she keeps the curtains closed in the daytime too.[/p][/quote]Not sure if it is spesh. But what if it is? The kids need something to take their minds off the damp surroundings. Paul Meoff
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2:38am Thu 21 Feb 13

Magicman! says...

That second picture of the mold in the window recess is quite common.... caused by CONDENSATION. We have this during winter months in our semi in huntington (and on outer walls with anything placed right up next to them like a wardrobe). It's caused by a lack of air circulation and more effective heating systems. This creates a bigger temperature differential between inside and outside, this causes condensation to form - and if it is not wiped off at least once a day then mould will form. If you go down the 'technical, spending money' option, then a whole house heat recovery system is what you'd go for, whereby each room has an air inlet duct and an outlet duct, stale air is extracted but the heat in the air is transferred to the air coming in to the house so there is minimal heat loss.

But there is also a low tech solution: PAPER TOWEL!!
That second picture of the mold in the window recess is quite common.... caused by CONDENSATION. We have this during winter months in our semi in huntington (and on outer walls with anything placed right up next to them like a wardrobe). It's caused by a lack of air circulation and more effective heating systems. This creates a bigger temperature differential between inside and outside, this causes condensation to form - and if it is not wiped off at least once a day then mould will form. If you go down the 'technical, spending money' option, then a whole house heat recovery system is what you'd go for, whereby each room has an air inlet duct and an outlet duct, stale air is extracted but the heat in the air is transferred to the air coming in to the house so there is minimal heat loss. But there is also a low tech solution: PAPER TOWEL!! Magicman!
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8:11am Thu 21 Feb 13

THE BEAR!!! says...

i used to have mould like that in my house. on every window area when i first moved in...
so, i rolled up my sleeves and i cleaned it. BANG, and the mould was gone. Then, after the big clean, i just kept on top of it....!!!!
I do hope you have tried to sort this out instead of your first reaction to be that of asking others to sort it for you. The reason this story is not getting the reaction you probably want is because people are just about fed up with everyone wanting hand-outs. earn your keep...
i used to have mould like that in my house. on every window area when i first moved in... so, i rolled up my sleeves and i cleaned it. BANG, and the mould was gone. Then, after the big clean, i just kept on top of it....!!!! I do hope you have tried to sort this out instead of your first reaction to be that of asking others to sort it for you. The reason this story is not getting the reaction you probably want is because people are just about fed up with everyone wanting hand-outs. earn your keep... THE BEAR!!!
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9:09am Thu 21 Feb 13

m dee says...

Micklegate says.
"two quality TVs in the picture"?
Quality your joking.

openallhours says.
.".Single Mum with child takes a flat paid for by the tax payer"

Not sure you read the same article its a couple and if they have rent arrears they must pay rent.

Hilly rides Horses says..
." I see Lowbeam is here supporting the single mother"
Its a couple read again please.

"If you removed the paper in that area and the background paper it would not be there"

How is it a expert needs a device to detect the extent of the damp/mould yet you can do this just by looking at a picture?


"Also have you seen the amount of toys lying about?
Loads, I never had many when I was a nipper and both of my parents worked!"

Err why should the kids not have toys?

alfie says...
1:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13

"Is that a can of special brew next to the computer"?

Nothing like a can of special brew.

Interesting the press using the poverty issue on this they look ok other then lacking the knowledge/skills to deal with a damp/condensation problem.
Micklegate says. "two quality TVs in the picture"? Quality your joking. openallhours says. .".Single Mum with child takes a flat paid for by the tax payer" Not sure you read the same article its a couple and if they have rent arrears they must pay rent. Hilly rides Horses says.. ." I see Lowbeam is here supporting the single mother" Its a couple read again please. "If you removed the paper in that area and the background paper it would not be there" How is it a expert needs a device to detect the extent of the damp/mould yet you can do this just by looking at a picture? "Also have you seen the amount of toys lying about? Loads, I never had many when I was a nipper and both of my parents worked!" Err why should the kids not have toys? alfie says... 1:51pm Wed 20 Feb 13 "Is that a can of special brew next to the computer"? Nothing like a can of special brew. Interesting the press using the poverty issue on this they look ok other then lacking the knowledge/skills to deal with a damp/condensation problem. m dee
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9:26am Thu 21 Feb 13

nearlyman says...

Have a few more and then you can get a horse...............
..........
Have a few more and then you can get a horse............... .......... nearlyman
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9:34am Thu 21 Feb 13

Hilly rides Horses says...

‘m dee says... 9:09am Thu 21 Feb 13
Interesting the press using the poverty issue on this they look ok other then lacking the knowledge/skills to deal with a damp/condensation problem.’

It’s not about lacking knowledge and skills more the attitude.

Skills and knowledge can be obtained if you are interested enough in your own life!

The lazy attitude is the problem and it’s a social disease within the benefits culture (and I mean something that grows in a petridish).

You can take somebody out of a council house but you cannot take the council house out of them!

Oxygen thieves, just breeding what will become yet more oxygen thieves!
‘m dee says... 9:09am Thu 21 Feb 13 Interesting the press using the poverty issue on this they look ok other then lacking the knowledge/skills to deal with a damp/condensation problem.’ It’s not about lacking knowledge and skills more the attitude. Skills and knowledge can be obtained if you are interested enough in your own life! The lazy attitude is the problem and it’s a social disease within the benefits culture (and I mean something that grows in a petridish). You can take somebody out of a council house but you cannot take the council house out of them! Oxygen thieves, just breeding what will become yet more oxygen thieves! Hilly rides Horses
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10:08am Thu 21 Feb 13

accountess says...

I completely agree with Hilly.
Why do some people think that the country owes them?
Kid number three will follow shortly.
It's the government's fault for making it easy.
Very few working seventeen year olds could afford to live independently.
Breed and you will be catered for.
I completely agree with Hilly. Why do some people think that the country owes them? Kid number three will follow shortly. It's the government's fault for making it easy. Very few working seventeen year olds could afford to live independently. Breed and you will be catered for. accountess
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4:45pm Thu 21 Feb 13

lowbeam says...

you all missed the point,I had a child who almost died
you all missed the point,I had a child who almost died lowbeam
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11:04pm Thu 21 Feb 13

williamssheri85 says...

Dont get me wrong, i do agree that this is a little extreme as if every person who had mould in there house did this the press would be full of stupid stories. I understand myself that its hard to live in such a small home with a lot of people, but some of the comments on here are just unnecessary.

has any ever thought.. sometimes a pregnancy isn't planned....

also clearly a lot of you have not read this article properly. they obviously pay there rent as her partner works...

its very easy to get into arrears so don't think its very fair to judge on that one. (im pretty sure most if not all of you will have been at one point.)...

that can is not a special brew, if you look properly it is obviously a 69p cheapo energy drink...

i also didn't realize that people in council homes should not be allowed a tv, i got mine (a 42 inch) of freecycle and i live in s council house? is this the same issue then?

I also am disgusted at the comments that families with low income/council houses should not be allowed to have so many toys for there kids! clearly you are all a bit selfish and don't have kids as anyone who does would know that they would never let them go without. i personally think all the people having a go should live in her situation for a couple of months, see how you would like it!
Dont get me wrong, i do agree that this is a little extreme as if every person who had mould in there house did this the press would be full of stupid stories. I understand myself that its hard to live in such a small home with a lot of people, but some of the comments on here are just unnecessary. has any ever thought.. sometimes a pregnancy isn't planned.... also clearly a lot of you have not read this article properly. they obviously pay there rent as her partner works... its very easy to get into arrears so don't think its very fair to judge on that one. (im pretty sure most if not all of you will have been at one point.)... that can is not a special brew, if you look properly it is obviously a 69p cheapo energy drink... i also didn't realize that people in council homes should not be allowed a tv, i got mine (a 42 inch) of freecycle and i live in s council house? is this the same issue then? I also am disgusted at the comments that families with low income/council houses should not be allowed to have so many toys for there kids! clearly you are all a bit selfish and don't have kids as anyone who does would know that they would never let them go without. i personally think all the people having a go should live in her situation for a couple of months, see how you would like it! williamssheri85
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11:04pm Thu 21 Feb 13

williamssheri85 says...

Dont get me wrong, i do agree that this is a little extreme as if every person who had mould in there house did this the press would be full of stupid stories. I understand myself that its hard to live in such a small home with a lot of people, but some of the comments on here are just unnecessary.

has any ever thought.. sometimes a pregnancy isn't planned....

also clearly a lot of you have not read this article properly. they obviously pay there rent as her partner works...

its very easy to get into arrears so don't think its very fair to judge on that one. (im pretty sure most if not all of you will have been at one point.)...

that can is not a special brew, if you look properly it is obviously a 69p cheapo energy drink...

i also didn't realize that people in council homes should not be allowed a tv, i got mine (a 42 inch) of freecycle and i live in s council house? is this the same issue then?

I also am disgusted at the comments that families with low income/council houses should not be allowed to have so many toys for there kids! clearly you are all a bit selfish and don't have kids as anyone who does would know that they would never let them go without. i personally think all the people having a go should live in her situation for a couple of months, see how you would like it!
Dont get me wrong, i do agree that this is a little extreme as if every person who had mould in there house did this the press would be full of stupid stories. I understand myself that its hard to live in such a small home with a lot of people, but some of the comments on here are just unnecessary. has any ever thought.. sometimes a pregnancy isn't planned.... also clearly a lot of you have not read this article properly. they obviously pay there rent as her partner works... its very easy to get into arrears so don't think its very fair to judge on that one. (im pretty sure most if not all of you will have been at one point.)... that can is not a special brew, if you look properly it is obviously a 69p cheapo energy drink... i also didn't realize that people in council homes should not be allowed a tv, i got mine (a 42 inch) of freecycle and i live in s council house? is this the same issue then? I also am disgusted at the comments that families with low income/council houses should not be allowed to have so many toys for there kids! clearly you are all a bit selfish and don't have kids as anyone who does would know that they would never let them go without. i personally think all the people having a go should live in her situation for a couple of months, see how you would like it! williamssheri85
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11:51pm Thu 21 Feb 13

nearlyman says...

Some of us have lived it
, but we have a bit of pride and went out to work before we had the kids because we didnt think that we automatically had the right to expect everyone else to pay for our decision to have children. And yes, it was difficult, and the kids had to have second hand toys now and then,but we got there in the end..........its called being responsible for your actions and earning respect in your community.
Some of us have lived it , but we have a bit of pride and went out to work before we had the kids because we didnt think that we automatically had the right to expect everyone else to pay for our decision to have children. And yes, it was difficult, and the kids had to have second hand toys now and then,but we got there in the end..........its called being responsible for your actions and earning respect in your community. nearlyman
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