Power cut hits 26,000 York homes

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Updated 9.50pm

A POWER cut has affected electricity supplies to 26,000 homes across York tonight.

The blackout, which happened just before 7.25pm, affected homes and businesses in the YO1, YO23 and YO24 postcodes, including Acomb, Holgate, Dringhouses, Woodthorpe and Bishophill, as well as the city-centre.

A spokesman for Northern Powergrid said power supplies were restored to all the affected properties by just before 7.50pm. The fault occurred on the National Grid network, although the exact cause is not yet known.

Earlier reports suggested the number of homes affected was about 860, although this was based on fluctuating numbers for different postcode areas on Northern Powergrid's website as the fault was dealt with.

The company has now confirmed the power cut impacted on 26,000 homes.

 

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8:51pm Wed 13 Feb 13

pedalling paul says...

If you have a bike.....grab your battery lights!
If you have a bike.....grab your battery lights! pedalling paul
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8:56pm Wed 13 Feb 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

If you have a brain.......ignore the above comment.
If you have a brain.......ignore the above comment. NoNewsIsGoodNews
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9:09pm Wed 13 Feb 13

carolinemac says...

If you have a Virgin phone line it seems they are down too...Wonder who cut who off?!
If you have a Virgin phone line it seems they are down too...Wonder who cut who off?! carolinemac
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9:41pm Wed 13 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Erm ¿ breaking news ?
Power was off in places at 8am this morning and rolling aroind York all day.
I always use this site for balanced up to date great journalism
Erm ¿ breaking news ? Power was off in places at 8am this morning and rolling aroind York all day. I always use this site for balanced up to date great journalism neutral observer 2
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9:49pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Woody G Mellor says...

No problems for me in YO23!
No problems for me in YO23! Woody G Mellor
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9:54pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Paul Meoff says...

Pik1es have nicked all the power lines.
Pik1es have nicked all the power lines. Paul Meoff
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9:55pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Minsterred says...

Power was off at 7.30am this morning in YO23 so your over 12 hrs late with this "breaking news"
Power was off at 7.30am this morning in YO23 so your over 12 hrs late with this "breaking news" Minsterred
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9:58pm Wed 13 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
No problems for me in YO23!
Ditto .
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: No problems for me in YO23![/p][/quote]Ditto . yorkborn66
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9:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Barry p says...

Five big flashes over Tockwith area at 7.25 near the power lines. Was this the issue
Five big flashes over Tockwith area at 7.25 near the power lines. Was this the issue Barry p
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10:04pm Wed 13 Feb 13

foreveryork says...

My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.
My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem. foreveryork
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10:18pm Wed 13 Feb 13

paulinesnowden says...

york city center lacks energy
it makes a change cos lately its york city footballers that have been suffering
this complaint!!
pull your football socks up
york city center lacks energy it makes a change cos lately its york city footballers that have been suffering this complaint!! pull your football socks up paulinesnowden
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10:20pm Wed 13 Feb 13

dsom73 says...

foreveryork wrote:
My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.
Your 88 year old Mum's sockets must use a different type of electricity to the lights.

You could either wait for this special "socket only" electricity to come back on or call a qualified electrician to come and make sure everything is working properly - my bet is that it isn't.

Something tells me you shouldn't be messing with it at all.
[quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.[/p][/quote]Your 88 year old Mum's sockets must use a different type of electricity to the lights. You could either wait for this special "socket only" electricity to come back on or call a qualified electrician to come and make sure everything is working properly - my bet is that it isn't. Something tells me you shouldn't be messing with it at all. dsom73
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10:30pm Wed 13 Feb 13

foreveryork says...

Errr, is that supposed to be funny? We're not messing with it - we just checked the fuse box. Exactly the same as the one in our house. Lights & sockets are on different fuse circuits or are you too thick to know that?
Errr, is that supposed to be funny? We're not messing with it - we just checked the fuse box. Exactly the same as the one in our house. Lights & sockets are on different fuse circuits or are you too thick to know that? foreveryork
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10:36pm Wed 13 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

Modern fuse boxes have an earth trip, try unplugging all the appliances that use the sockets then switch off the main switch and turn back on, If it works switch on each appliance until the sockets stop working, then you find the problem appliance. If she has an old fuse box check the circuit breaker, (for the sockets) if the thin wire has blown replace the wire. This can happen when the socket circuit is overloaded, or a spike occurs. Hope this helps.
Modern fuse boxes have an earth trip, try unplugging all the appliances that use the sockets then switch off the main switch and turn back on, If it works switch on each appliance until the sockets stop working, then you find the problem appliance. If she has an old fuse box check the circuit breaker, (for the sockets) if the thin wire has blown replace the wire. This can happen when the socket circuit is overloaded, or a spike occurs. Hope this helps. yorkborn66
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10:36pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Hollywood Star says...

In the YO24 area where i live there has been 2 powercuts today, first one just before 8am with the second one been around 7.20 pm.
In the YO24 area where i live there has been 2 powercuts today, first one just before 8am with the second one been around 7.20 pm. Hollywood Star
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10:36pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Hollywood Star says...

In the YO24 area where i live there has been 2 powercuts today, first one just before 8am with the second one been around 7.20 pm.
In the YO24 area where i live there has been 2 powercuts today, first one just before 8am with the second one been around 7.20 pm. Hollywood Star
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10:36pm Wed 13 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

dsom73 wrote:
foreveryork wrote:
My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.
Your 88 year old Mum's sockets must use a different type of electricity to the lights.

You could either wait for this special "socket only" electricity to come back on or call a qualified electrician to come and make sure everything is working properly - my bet is that it isn't.

Something tells me you shouldn't be messing with it at all.
Modern fuse boxes have an earth trip, try unplugging all the appliances that use the sockets then switch off the main switch and turn back on, If it works switch on each appliance until the sockets stop working, then you find the problem appliance. If she has an old fuse box check the circuit breaker, (for the sockets) if the thin wire has blown replace the wire. This can happen when the socket circuit is overloaded, or a spike occurs. Hope this helps.
[quote][p][bold]dsom73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.[/p][/quote]Your 88 year old Mum's sockets must use a different type of electricity to the lights. You could either wait for this special "socket only" electricity to come back on or call a qualified electrician to come and make sure everything is working properly - my bet is that it isn't. Something tells me you shouldn't be messing with it at all.[/p][/quote]Modern fuse boxes have an earth trip, try unplugging all the appliances that use the sockets then switch off the main switch and turn back on, If it works switch on each appliance until the sockets stop working, then you find the problem appliance. If she has an old fuse box check the circuit breaker, (for the sockets) if the thin wire has blown replace the wire. This can happen when the socket circuit is overloaded, or a spike occurs. Hope this helps. yorkborn66
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10:39pm Wed 13 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

foreveryork wrote:
My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.
Modern fuse boxes have an earth trip, try unplugging all the appliances that use the sockets then switch off the main switch and turn back on, If it works switch on each appliance until the sockets stop working, then you find the problem appliance. If she has an old fuse box check the circuit breaker, (for the sockets) if the thin wire has blown replace the wire. This can happen when the socket circuit is overloaded, or a spike occurs. Hope this helps.

Press site playing up , sorry for triple comment.
[quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: My 88 year old Mum's lights are back on in YO26 but none of the sockets are working. Hasn't 'tripped' so there must still be a problem.[/p][/quote]Modern fuse boxes have an earth trip, try unplugging all the appliances that use the sockets then switch off the main switch and turn back on, If it works switch on each appliance until the sockets stop working, then you find the problem appliance. If she has an old fuse box check the circuit breaker, (for the sockets) if the thin wire has blown replace the wire. This can happen when the socket circuit is overloaded, or a spike occurs. Hope this helps. Press site playing up , sorry for triple comment. yorkborn66
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10:42pm Wed 13 Feb 13

foreveryork says...

Hi yorkborn66,

Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her.

Cheers
foreveryork
Hi yorkborn66, Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her. Cheers foreveryork foreveryork
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10:52pm Wed 13 Feb 13

Woody G Mellor says...

Maybe it's something to do with those pesky UFO's.
Maybe it's something to do with those pesky UFO's. Woody G Mellor
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10:52pm Wed 13 Feb 13

TerryYork says...

Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?
Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this? TerryYork
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10:59pm Wed 13 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

foreveryork wrote:
Hi yorkborn66,

Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her.

Cheers
foreveryork
No problem. But please make sure you turn off the master switch before you touch any fuse wires (not teaching you to suck eggs)
Hope she can get the kettle and TV on soon!
[quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: Hi yorkborn66, Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her. Cheers foreveryork[/p][/quote]No problem. But please make sure you turn off the master switch before you touch any fuse wires (not teaching you to suck eggs) Hope she can get the kettle and TV on soon! yorkborn66
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11:01pm Wed 13 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

TerryYork wrote:
Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?
He would not be so clever
[quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?[/p][/quote]He would not be so clever yorkborn66
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12:01am Thu 14 Feb 13

el-mundo says...

I was on the bog at my new job, was a good start trying to sort it out in the dark!!
I was on the bog at my new job, was a good start trying to sort it out in the dark!! el-mundo
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12:05am Thu 14 Feb 13

pedalling paul says...

Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.
Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out. pedalling paul
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12:06am Thu 14 Feb 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

Just you wait until we are dependent on windmills for electricity. Power cuts will be a regular feature of life.
Just you wait until we are dependent on windmills for electricity. Power cuts will be a regular feature of life. ColdAsChristmas
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12:14am Thu 14 Feb 13

foreveryork says...

yorkborn66 wrote:
foreveryork wrote:
Hi yorkborn66,

Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her.

Cheers
foreveryork
No problem. But please make sure you turn off the master switch before you touch any fuse wires (not teaching you to suck eggs)
Hope she can get the kettle and TV on soon!
Lol! It's one of the modern fuse boxes so no wires to touch ;-)
Decided to try the bigger appliances first & luckily it was the 1st one we tried, how lucky! Pesky tumble dryer, more trouble than they're worth!

Kettle & TV working perfectly again, Thanks very much - you're a star!
[quote][p][bold]yorkborn66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: Hi yorkborn66, Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her. Cheers foreveryork[/p][/quote]No problem. But please make sure you turn off the master switch before you touch any fuse wires (not teaching you to suck eggs) Hope she can get the kettle and TV on soon![/p][/quote]Lol! It's one of the modern fuse boxes so no wires to touch ;-) Decided to try the bigger appliances first & luckily it was the 1st one we tried, how lucky! Pesky tumble dryer, more trouble than they're worth! Kettle & TV working perfectly again, Thanks very much - you're a star! foreveryork
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12:51am Thu 14 Feb 13

Magicman! says...

^ - you've probably got water ingress in the heating element.

----

This power cut also affected the railways, because the signalling centre that controlls signals in Leeds was in the affected area of York - so all the lines out of leeds went dead.

Always a wise idea to keep some battery lights somewhere within reach, even if all you have are bike lights.
^ - you've probably got water ingress in the heating element. ---- This power cut also affected the railways, because the signalling centre that controlls signals in Leeds was in the affected area of York - so all the lines out of leeds went dead. Always a wise idea to keep some battery lights somewhere within reach, even if all you have are bike lights. Magicman!
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1:54am Thu 14 Feb 13

Ronald Crumble says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.
i tell you what paul it was flowing faster than me after a curry
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.[/p][/quote]i tell you what paul it was flowing faster than me after a curry Ronald Crumble
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7:28am Thu 14 Feb 13

pedalling paul says...

Glad that I wasn' a pedestrian trying to safely cross a road of "flowing"traffic during the outage.
Glad that I wasn' a pedestrian trying to safely cross a road of "flowing"traffic during the outage. pedalling paul
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8:30am Thu 14 Feb 13

MrsHoney says...

I live in the YO26 area which they haven't mentioned and we had the same powercut. I was actually in Tescos at the time, a moment of excitement..........
I live in the YO26 area which they haven't mentioned and we had the same powercut. I was actually in Tescos at the time, a moment of excitement.......... MrsHoney
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8:43am Thu 14 Feb 13

Mulgrave says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Glad that I wasn' a pedestrian trying to safely cross a road of "flowing"traffi
c during the outage.
Can we send pedallingpaul to Coventry? their take on road safety 'improvement' is the Naked Streets concept where all signs, signals, kerbs etc are removed. The idea is from Europe and is actually quite closely tied in with the 20mph concept, in that everyone 'co-operates' in the road space. If you think about it logically, if vehicles are actually driving slowly, why do you need to continually stop them in their tracks, other than for the less able bodied to cross the road? The other side of the coin, If you have good 'green man' crossings why would you need to reduce the speed on main roads to 20mph?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Glad that I wasn' a pedestrian trying to safely cross a road of "flowing"traffi c during the outage.[/p][/quote]Can we send pedallingpaul to Coventry? their take on road safety 'improvement' is the Naked Streets concept where all signs, signals, kerbs etc are removed. The idea is from Europe and is actually quite closely tied in with the 20mph concept, in that everyone 'co-operates' in the road space. If you think about it logically, if vehicles are actually driving slowly, why do you need to continually stop them in their tracks, other than for the less able bodied to cross the road? The other side of the coin, If you have good 'green man' crossings why would you need to reduce the speed on main roads to 20mph? Mulgrave
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9:06am Thu 14 Feb 13

Jiffy says...

MrsHoney wrote:
I live in the YO26 area which they haven't mentioned and we had the same powercut. I was actually in Tescos at the time, a moment of excitement..........
Yep YO26 here as well - as I believe is the station or certainly Leeman Road. Obviously not important enough :-)
[quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: I live in the YO26 area which they haven't mentioned and we had the same powercut. I was actually in Tescos at the time, a moment of excitement..........[/p][/quote]Yep YO26 here as well - as I believe is the station or certainly Leeman Road. Obviously not important enough :-) Jiffy
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9:37am Thu 14 Feb 13

Big Bad Wolf says...

Well, out in the wilds of YO42 we had loads of electric..... But no snow ploughs or gritters!
Well, out in the wilds of YO42 we had loads of electric..... But no snow ploughs or gritters! Big Bad Wolf
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10:30am Thu 14 Feb 13

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

No mention of YO30 and YO31. Probably because we have to put up with it on a regular basis.
No mention of YO30 and YO31. Probably because we have to put up with it on a regular basis. Ignatius Lumpopo
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10:45am Thu 14 Feb 13

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

And why had Northern Powergrid "no idea" why it happened?

Can I suggest problems caused by 'Snow'? 'Ice'? 'Meltwater'? 'Gusty winds'? 'Heavy consumer usage on a bitter night'? Permutations of all five, perhaps?

Of course, I don't work in the power supply industry, so I might be completely wrong...
And why had Northern Powergrid "no idea" why it happened? Can I suggest problems caused by 'Snow'? 'Ice'? 'Meltwater'? 'Gusty winds'? 'Heavy consumer usage on a bitter night'? Permutations of all five, perhaps? Of course, I don't work in the power supply industry, so I might be completely wrong... Ignatius Lumpopo
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1:06pm Thu 14 Feb 13

The Analyst says...

Jiffy wrote:
MrsHoney wrote:
I live in the YO26 area which they haven't mentioned and we had the same powercut. I was actually in Tescos at the time, a moment of excitement..........
Yep YO26 here as well - as I believe is the station or certainly Leeman Road. Obviously not important enough :-)
...did your shopping cost considerably less on this occasion?!?
[quote][p][bold]Jiffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: I live in the YO26 area which they haven't mentioned and we had the same powercut. I was actually in Tescos at the time, a moment of excitement..........[/p][/quote]Yep YO26 here as well - as I believe is the station or certainly Leeman Road. Obviously not important enough :-)[/p][/quote]...did your shopping cost considerably less on this occasion?!? The Analyst
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2:33pm Thu 14 Feb 13

bob the builder says...

... only off for ten minutes, and the usual warning signs had been there for an hour before as the lights kept flickering so didn't need to get the generator going (that shows how often it happens - when you keep a generator on standby in an urban residential area!)
... only off for ten minutes, and the usual warning signs had been there for an hour before as the lights kept flickering so didn't need to get the generator going (that shows how often it happens - when you keep a generator on standby in an urban residential area!) bob the builder
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3:32pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Ronald Crumble says...

shall we all go through every postcode in York ... did your power cut off ..post your answers y or n .....*facepalm
shall we all go through every postcode in York ... did your power cut off ..post your answers y or n .....*facepalm Ronald Crumble
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4:46pm Thu 14 Feb 13

yorkiemum says...

Ignatius Lumpopo wrote:
And why had Northern Powergrid "no idea" why it happened?

Can I suggest problems caused by 'Snow'? 'Ice'? 'Meltwater'? 'Gusty winds'? 'Heavy consumer usage on a bitter night'? Permutations of all five, perhaps?

Of course, I don't work in the power supply industry, so I might be completely wrong...
They had 'no idea' because it was to do with the National Grid.
[quote][p][bold]Ignatius Lumpopo[/bold] wrote: And why had Northern Powergrid "no idea" why it happened? Can I suggest problems caused by 'Snow'? 'Ice'? 'Meltwater'? 'Gusty winds'? 'Heavy consumer usage on a bitter night'? Permutations of all five, perhaps? Of course, I don't work in the power supply industry, so I might be completely wrong...[/p][/quote]They had 'no idea' because it was to do with the National Grid. yorkiemum
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4:59pm Thu 14 Feb 13

highvoltage says...

They should be praised for restoring supplies within 10 minutes. Efficient in my eyes!
They should be praised for restoring supplies within 10 minutes. Efficient in my eyes! highvoltage
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5:28pm Thu 14 Feb 13

ouseswimmer says...

Why is it that traffic flows so much better and no pedestrians get run over when the power goes off? I mean we pay £10,000 per year maintenance for each set of lights and they actually make things worse! We could save billions without them!
Why is it that traffic flows so much better and no pedestrians get run over when the power goes off? I mean we pay £10,000 per year maintenance for each set of lights and they actually make things worse! We could save billions without them! ouseswimmer
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6:36pm Thu 14 Feb 13

NoMorePlease says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
Why is it that traffic flows so much better and no pedestrians get run over when the power goes off? I mean we pay £10,000 per year maintenance for each set of lights and they actually make things worse! We could save billions without them!
Because it is unusual, therefore people are more aware and safety conscious.
Make it the norm and they will soon change.
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: Why is it that traffic flows so much better and no pedestrians get run over when the power goes off? I mean we pay £10,000 per year maintenance for each set of lights and they actually make things worse! We could save billions without them![/p][/quote]Because it is unusual, therefore people are more aware and safety conscious. Make it the norm and they will soon change. NoMorePlease
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8:35pm Thu 14 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

foreveryork wrote:
yorkborn66 wrote:
foreveryork wrote:
Hi yorkborn66,

Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her.

Cheers
foreveryork
No problem. But please make sure you turn off the master switch before you touch any fuse wires (not teaching you to suck eggs)
Hope she can get the kettle and TV on soon!
Lol! It's one of the modern fuse boxes so no wires to touch ;-)
Decided to try the bigger appliances first & luckily it was the 1st one we tried, how lucky! Pesky tumble dryer, more trouble than they're worth!

Kettle & TV working perfectly again, Thanks very much - you're a star!
Excellent, pleased everything is back to normal. Thank you for the nice comments, happy to help.
[quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorkborn66[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]foreveryork[/bold] wrote: Hi yorkborn66, Thanks very much for your advice, will try that for her. Cheers foreveryork[/p][/quote]No problem. But please make sure you turn off the master switch before you touch any fuse wires (not teaching you to suck eggs) Hope she can get the kettle and TV on soon![/p][/quote]Lol! It's one of the modern fuse boxes so no wires to touch ;-) Decided to try the bigger appliances first & luckily it was the 1st one we tried, how lucky! Pesky tumble dryer, more trouble than they're worth! Kettle & TV working perfectly again, Thanks very much - you're a star![/p][/quote]Excellent, pleased everything is back to normal. Thank you for the nice comments, happy to help. yorkborn66
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10:52pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

TerryYork wrote:
Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?
Because unlike Calamity James, they don't think it's something he has control over !
[quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?[/p][/quote]Because unlike Calamity James, they don't think it's something he has control over ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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10:54pm Thu 14 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.
It did !
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.[/p][/quote]It did ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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12:29am Fri 15 Feb 13

Magicman! says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
Why is it that traffic flows so much better and no pedestrians get run over when the power goes off? I mean we pay £10,000 per year maintenance for each set of lights and they actually make things worse! We could save billions without them!
I think the reason is that because there is no "overlord" to tell people when to go and stop, it puts the responsibility back into peoples' own control and then they either take more care or are more courteous for allowing other people out. If traffic is controlled by lights, most people are of the mindset of "that light will be changing in a few seconds, I want to get through it before it does"(*) and so traffic on side streets often backs up.
Personally I think some junctions could be changed to roundabouts and work fine. New Lane and malton Road for example - get rid of lane 2 outbound on Malton Road and use it for part of inbound whilst the bus lane is physically seperated by a continuous island, and with just one lane outbound then every time a car turns left into New Lane that would give chance for traffic on new lane to exit - and because there's normally less traffic on New lane than the inbound direction on Malton Road, this self-regulating approach would reduce queuing traffic on New Lane without adding to other queues (surely it'd be better than the current setup where only 4 cars get through New Lane even when there's a queue of 20, and then a red light for about 3 minutes, just over)

* > or in the case of some woman driving a First bendy bus on the 2 today at Clifton Green "that light has gone to red but I'm going to ignore it and that bloke on the bike who's starting to move as he's got a green light can see the side of my bus and wait" - it's enough bikes have to squeeze between two rows of wingmirrors now without the reduced green light time on Shipton Road prompting more people to jump the red light.
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: Why is it that traffic flows so much better and no pedestrians get run over when the power goes off? I mean we pay £10,000 per year maintenance for each set of lights and they actually make things worse! We could save billions without them![/p][/quote]I think the reason is that because there is no "overlord" to tell people when to go and stop, it puts the responsibility back into peoples' own control and then they either take more care or are more courteous for allowing other people out. If traffic is controlled by lights, most people are of the mindset of "that light will be changing in a few seconds, I want to get through it before it does"(*) and so traffic on side streets often backs up. Personally I think some junctions could be changed to roundabouts and work fine. New Lane and malton Road for example - get rid of lane 2 outbound on Malton Road and use it for part of inbound whilst the bus lane is physically seperated by a continuous island, and with just one lane outbound then every time a car turns left into New Lane that would give chance for traffic on new lane to exit - and because there's normally less traffic on New lane than the inbound direction on Malton Road, this self-regulating approach would reduce queuing traffic on New Lane without adding to other queues (surely it'd be better than the current setup where only 4 cars get through New Lane even when there's a queue of 20, and then a red light for about 3 minutes, just over) * > or in the case of some woman driving a First bendy bus on the 2 today at Clifton Green "that light has gone to red but I'm going to ignore it and that bloke on the bike who's starting to move as he's got a green light can see the side of my bus and wait" - it's enough bikes have to squeeze between two rows of wingmirrors now without the reduced green light time on Shipton Road prompting more people to jump the red light. Magicman!
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11:10am Fri 15 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
TerryYork wrote:
Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?
Because unlike Calamity James, they don't think it's something he has control over !
More intent on making up scare stories about grit storage. When everything went swimmingly well.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TerryYork[/bold] wrote: Why aren't there numerous Tory Boys on here blaming James Alexander for this?[/p][/quote]Because unlike Calamity James, they don't think it's something he has control over ![/p][/quote]More intent on making up scare stories about grit storage. When everything went swimmingly well. neutral observer 2
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12:20am Sat 16 Feb 13

strangebuttrue? says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.
Well done Paul – get in there first and see if you can put people off saying it. Not only did it flow better but thanks to the The Press we have video evidence of it doing so.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Stand by for the inevitable comment that traffic "flowed" better with the traffic lights out.[/p][/quote]Well done Paul – get in there first and see if you can put people off saying it. Not only did it flow better but thanks to the The Press we have video evidence of it doing so. strangebuttrue?
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