New bin charges to be put to York residents

New green bin charges to be put to York residents

New green bin charges to be put to York residents

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RESIDENTS in York face having to pay for green waste collections and replacement bins, under plans drawn up by council leaders.

Opening hours at Towthorpe waste centre could also be cut, following on from the closure last May of the Beckfield Lane centre.

City of York Council’s cabinet is expected to launch a public consultation over waste and recycling as it aims to save about £580,000 over the next two years.

Options are likely to include:

• Charging for garden waste collections, either year-round or between March and November

• An annual fee for additional garden bins or for swapping them for home composters

• Suspending winter garden waste collections

• Introducing a food waste collection alongside the garden waste service

• Looking at outsourcing collections to social enterprises or community groups.

The council refused to say how much the charges for garden waste could be, when asked by The Press.

Residents may also be asked for their views on reducing opening hours at Towthorpe waste recycling centre with the options of closing it on a weekday all year round, closing it completely between October and March or only opening it on weekends during this time.

As part of its budget proposals for the next two years, the council plans to charge non-residents £10 to use the city’s waste and recycling sites and to introduce fees for brick, rubble, bonded asbestos and plasterboard.

The council would not say how much the charges could be, although potential fees will be outlined in any consultation.

Coun David Levene, cabinet member for environmental services, said: “We are committed to providing the best possible service and recognise to achieve this we need to listen closely to the views of residents.

“However, we need to be honest with the public, and given the challenging financial situation facing the council, a review of all services is essential.”

The consultation would include phone interviews with 500 residents, an online survey and face-to-face sessions with those using the Towthorpe site, with results and recommendations going before the cabinet in spring.

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7:39pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Paul2012 says...

Instead of asking the residents of York to foot the bill and having to stretch their budgets even further, take a look at where the council can save the 500,000 elsewhere.

Lord Mayor car 60,000 not essential, DN1 licence plate 120,000, over indulgent new council offices £???.

It's plain simple for the York public to see where the council are wasting money, each year the separate departments for the council get a budget in each financial year, most years they fail to spend that budget and rush to spend it on pointless things in the last month.

Why so they don't have a reduced budget the next year, it's idiotic and yet we are the ones that have to pick that up.

Sorry Alexander but you are the one accountable.
Instead of asking the residents of York to foot the bill and having to stretch their budgets even further, take a look at where the council can save the 500,000 elsewhere. Lord Mayor car 60,000 not essential, DN1 licence plate 120,000, over indulgent new council offices £???. It's plain simple for the York public to see where the council are wasting money, each year the separate departments for the council get a budget in each financial year, most years they fail to spend that budget and rush to spend it on pointless things in the last month. Why so they don't have a reduced budget the next year, it's idiotic and yet we are the ones that have to pick that up. Sorry Alexander but you are the one accountable. Paul2012
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7:43pm Mon 4 Feb 13

SaywhatIthink says...

More ridiculous charges for a service the useless council can't provide. I live in a terraced street, we can't have whlie bins, we don't get green waste bins, (because the mindless gets think we don't do plants or flowers in a yard) we don't get blooming bin liners free anymore, as for getting food waste bins, councils in many other cities have been doing this for years. Pull your fingers out of your backsides York council and start to look after your residents.....fuming
More ridiculous charges for a service the useless council can't provide. I live in a terraced street, we can't have whlie bins, we don't get green waste bins, (because the mindless gets think we don't do plants or flowers in a yard) we don't get blooming bin liners free anymore, as for getting food waste bins, councils in many other cities have been doing this for years. Pull your fingers out of your backsides York council and start to look after your residents.....fuming SaywhatIthink
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7:45pm Mon 4 Feb 13

JHardacre says...

I've got an idea. Why doesn't the council charge us for local street lighting, road cleaning, highway maintenance, library visits, using local parks, school entrance fees...they could also charge gypsies directly for gypsy liaison officers, minorities for translation services...

Come on CYC, I'm sure you can do better than just taxing green waste.
I've got an idea. Why doesn't the council charge us for local street lighting, road cleaning, highway maintenance, library visits, using local parks, school entrance fees...they could also charge gypsies directly for gypsy liaison officers, minorities for translation services... Come on CYC, I'm sure you can do better than just taxing green waste. JHardacre
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7:49pm Mon 4 Feb 13

JC42 says...

Well the city of York council can Foxtrot Oscar on this one, i have a better idea why dont we just give you all our wages and then you can give us a little back to spend you lot couldnt order a pi$$ up in a brewery
Well the city of York council can Foxtrot Oscar on this one, i have a better idea why dont we just give you all our wages and then you can give us a little back to spend you lot couldnt order a pi$$ up in a brewery JC42
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7:50pm Mon 4 Feb 13

yorkie71 says...

Ridiculous 1st we suffer a fortnightly collection. We get used to it so JA wants us to pay for the priveledge of a reduced service ? Everyone will go to the tip congesting the roads and adding to landfill as without the bins I don't expect people to have an incentive to seperate their rubbish
Ridiculous 1st we suffer a fortnightly collection. We get used to it so JA wants us to pay for the priveledge of a reduced service ? Everyone will go to the tip congesting the roads and adding to landfill as without the bins I don't expect people to have an incentive to seperate their rubbish yorkie71
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8:35pm Mon 4 Feb 13

tizme says...

OK, so I won't use my green bin. I'll compost at home. Now how about my refund of council tax for the years I've been doing it anyway!
OK, so I won't use my green bin. I'll compost at home. Now how about my refund of council tax for the years I've been doing it anyway! tizme
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8:45pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Candy Cupcake says...

Maybe they should look at how the waste management team operate!!!
1. They delivered the wrong 2012/13 collection card out.
2. A week latter they sent the correct one with a letter of a apology.
3. First collection in the new year was not collected, so they had to send a wagon out two days later to collect.
4. Second collection was not collected, established yes we did have the right card and it corresponded with the website, so another wagon sent out 2 days later to collect.
5. Week 3, rubbish still not collected, reaffirmed that the card was correct and the website was also correct, wagon sent out to collect the rubbish.
6. Week 4, as before.
7. Week 5, rubbish not collected, established that we had been given the wrong card, the website was altered to reflect the error, no refuge collection at all, no apology given, just the correct card stuffed in an envelope and posted.

Seriously if this was the private sector questions would have been asked after week 2, if it had reached week 5, then disciplinary action would be taken... Cost of this error, 4 x refuse wagons returned to collect 4 x house hold waste, not too mention time on the phone, emails and sheer frustration... What an absolute waste of money and resources.... Maybe we should be looking too privatise some of the services, or at least get some decent business managers in who are aware of costs!
Maybe they should look at how the waste management team operate!!! 1. They delivered the wrong 2012/13 collection card out. 2. A week latter they sent the correct one with a letter of a apology. 3. First collection in the new year was not collected, so they had to send a wagon out two days later to collect. 4. Second collection was not collected, established yes we did have the right card and it corresponded with the website, so another wagon sent out 2 days later to collect. 5. Week 3, rubbish still not collected, reaffirmed that the card was correct and the website was also correct, wagon sent out to collect the rubbish. 6. Week 4, as before. 7. Week 5, rubbish not collected, established that we had been given the wrong card, the website was altered to reflect the error, no refuge collection at all, no apology given, just the correct card stuffed in an envelope and posted. Seriously if this was the private sector questions would have been asked after week 2, if it had reached week 5, then disciplinary action would be taken... Cost of this error, 4 x refuse wagons returned to collect 4 x house hold waste, not too mention time on the phone, emails and sheer frustration... What an absolute waste of money and resources.... Maybe we should be looking too privatise some of the services, or at least get some decent business managers in who are aware of costs! Candy Cupcake
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8:58pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Hoofarted says...

Short sightedness appears prominent.

Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget.

Now which do you want folks;

The old services unaffected?

The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money?

Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly?

It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.
Short sightedness appears prominent. Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget. Now which do you want folks; The old services unaffected? The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money? Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly? It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games. Hoofarted
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9:09pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Paul2012 says...

They have stopped the increase in budgets not stopped the allocation altogether.

The the local council need to to learn to spend there budgets correctly, the current situation has the budgets for each sector in the hands of council staff who are no more than at entry level jobs.

This leaves slack areas of wasted budget due to not being able plan their budgets effectively and panicking to spend the rest at the back end of the year.

The budget need to be in the hands of people who know how to plan the yearly budget and not be on a adhoc basis.

These issue leave a big gap that the public have to fill, as for DN1 do even get me started.
They have stopped the increase in budgets not stopped the allocation altogether. The the local council need to to learn to spend there budgets correctly, the current situation has the budgets for each sector in the hands of council staff who are no more than at entry level jobs. This leaves slack areas of wasted budget due to not being able plan their budgets effectively and panicking to spend the rest at the back end of the year. The budget need to be in the hands of people who know how to plan the yearly budget and not be on a adhoc basis. These issue leave a big gap that the public have to fill, as for DN1 do even get me started. Paul2012
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9:09pm Mon 4 Feb 13

yorkmax says...

tell you what i'll do......put every thing in the grey bin so no more recyling for me
tell you what i'll do......put every thing in the grey bin so no more recyling for me yorkmax
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9:29pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Consultation?

It will be a stitch-up.
Consultation? It will be a stitch-up. Scarlet Pimpernel
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9:31pm Mon 4 Feb 13

yorkie0802 says...

How about taking some council tax off students - that would bring some more money in!
How about taking some council tax off students - that would bring some more money in! yorkie0802
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9:37pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Hoofarted wrote:
Short sightedness appears prominent.

Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget.

Now which do you want folks;

The old services unaffected?

The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money?

Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly?

It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.
It's easier for Labour stooges like this merchant, to blame it on the government, whilst this council play fast and loose, wasting millions.on non-essential vanity projects.

This is political gameplaying by Labour - everyone can see that, apart from Hoofarted, who talks out of his a**e !
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: Short sightedness appears prominent. Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget. Now which do you want folks; The old services unaffected? The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money? Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly? It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.[/p][/quote]It's easier for Labour stooges like this merchant, to blame it on the government, whilst this council play fast and loose, wasting millions.on non-essential vanity projects. This is political gameplaying by Labour - everyone can see that, apart from Hoofarted, who talks out of his a**e ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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9:39pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

yorkie0802 wrote:
How about taking some council tax off students - that would bring some more money in!
Agreed.

It's time they paid their way instead, of being subsidised by York tax-payers !
[quote][p][bold]yorkie0802[/bold] wrote: How about taking some council tax off students - that would bring some more money in![/p][/quote]Agreed. It's time they paid their way instead, of being subsidised by York tax-payers ! Scarlet Pimpernel
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10:53pm Mon 4 Feb 13

yorkborn66 says...

Rumor has it that the council bosses are renegotiating working times with the bin men. 6 to 2 and 2 to 10 shifts .
Rumor has it that the council bosses are renegotiating working times with the bin men. 6 to 2 and 2 to 10 shifts . yorkborn66
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11:56pm Mon 4 Feb 13

soprano 2 says...

Do the landlords of student accommodation have to pay Council Tax, if not why not? Here in France there are two types of Council Tax, one for the owner and one for the occupier - you pay both if you are the owner occupier. As there is a large student population in York, that must add up to a very large amount of income lost each year.
Do the landlords of student accommodation have to pay Council Tax, if not why not? Here in France there are two types of Council Tax, one for the owner and one for the occupier - you pay both if you are the owner occupier. As there is a large student population in York, that must add up to a very large amount of income lost each year. soprano 2
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12:08am Tue 5 Feb 13

retrorigg says...

set of cee u next tuesdays, not getting a penny from me
set of cee u next tuesdays, not getting a penny from me retrorigg
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12:22am Tue 5 Feb 13

baldiebiker says...

I asked the leader of Selby council if it was legal to charge to empty the green bins as we already pay for this service in our council tax, his reply was that it is legal as other councils charge, well other people rob banks so I'll see if that stands up in court?
I also asked what they would do with up to 17,000 bin that would be returned, he said he didn't think it would be that many, dream on sonny.
I asked the leader of Selby council if it was legal to charge to empty the green bins as we already pay for this service in our council tax, his reply was that it is legal as other councils charge, well other people rob banks so I'll see if that stands up in court? I also asked what they would do with up to 17,000 bin that would be returned, he said he didn't think it would be that many, dream on sonny. baldiebiker
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7:13am Tue 5 Feb 13

dodgydavereturns says...

retrorigg wrote:
set of cee u next tuesdays, not getting a penny from me
Yep Alexander is a real
'Cant Understand New Technology' guy!
[quote][p][bold]retrorigg[/bold] wrote: set of cee u next tuesdays, not getting a penny from me[/p][/quote]Yep Alexander is a real 'Cant Understand New Technology' guy! dodgydavereturns
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8:08am Tue 5 Feb 13

Guy Fawkes says...

As part of its budget proposals for the next two years, the council plans to charge non-residents £10 to use the city’s waste and recycling sites


Why isn't this done already? Visiting relatives over Christmas in south London, I took an old sofa of Mother's to the council tip. She was required to show photo ID with her address on it (either a photocard driving licence or a passport plus two utility bills in her name) before we were allowed in. The tip was for that borough's residents only, because they paid for it. Why on earth are CoYC's taxpayers footing the bill for disposing of other people's waste?

Do the landlords of student accommodation have to pay Council Tax


No.

if not why not?


Because the Higher Education Funding Council for England pays it on the students' behalf, in the case of halls of residence and HMOs that are occupied entirely by students. If any non-student lives in the property (even if, say, a HMO is lived in by three students plus one recent graduate in their first job), it's liable for the full council tax. But the council does not lose revenue if a house is occupied entirely by students.

Here in France there are two types of Council Tax, one for the owner and one for the occupier - you pay both if you are the owner occupier.


The United States has an even better system: 'property tax', as it's called there, is only paid by the owner. If that owner is a landlord, they can try to pass it on to the tenant by including it in the rent if they like, but ultimately tenants will only pay what the market can bear. The thinking behind it is that property owners have a long-term vested interest in the lives of their community, and therefore should be willing to contribute to that, but tenants don't (necessarily), are simply buying a service and shouldn't have to pay hidden extras. That having been said, some cities levy a city income tax (usually between 0.5 to 1.5%), which all residents have to pay.
[quote]As part of its budget proposals for the next two years, the council plans to charge non-residents £10 to use the city’s waste and recycling sites [/quote] Why isn't this done already? Visiting relatives over Christmas in south London, I took an old sofa of Mother's to the council tip. She was required to show photo ID with her address on it (either a photocard driving licence or a passport plus two utility bills in her name) before we were allowed in. The tip was for that borough's residents only, because they paid for it. Why on earth are CoYC's taxpayers footing the bill for disposing of other people's waste? [quote]Do the landlords of student accommodation have to pay Council Tax[/quote] No. [quote]if not why not?[/quote] Because the Higher Education Funding Council for England pays it on the students' behalf, in the case of halls of residence and HMOs that are occupied entirely by students. If any non-student lives in the property (even if, say, a HMO is lived in by three students plus one recent graduate in their first job), it's liable for the full council tax. But the council does not lose revenue if a house is occupied entirely by students. [quote]Here in France there are two types of Council Tax, one for the owner and one for the occupier - you pay both if you are the owner occupier.[/quote] The United States has an even better system: 'property tax', as it's called there, is only paid by the owner. If that owner is a landlord, they can try to pass it on to the tenant by including it in the rent if they like, but ultimately tenants will only pay what the market can bear. The thinking behind it is that property owners have a long-term vested interest in the lives of their community, and therefore should be willing to contribute to that, but tenants don't (necessarily), are simply buying a service and shouldn't have to pay hidden extras. That having been said, some cities levy a city income tax (usually between 0.5 to 1.5%), which all residents have to pay. Guy Fawkes
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8:12am Tue 5 Feb 13

MrsHoney says...

How are they going to charge people, add it onto council tax or leave a bill every time they empty your green bin? If it's the former it's hardly fair on people who don't use the green bin and if the latter then what's to stop people sticking their waste in your bin, leaving you with the bill??
We compost all our garden and food waste so I'm not paying a penny more.
How are they going to charge people, add it onto council tax or leave a bill every time they empty your green bin? If it's the former it's hardly fair on people who don't use the green bin and if the latter then what's to stop people sticking their waste in your bin, leaving you with the bill?? We compost all our garden and food waste so I'm not paying a penny more. MrsHoney
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8:25am Tue 5 Feb 13

JHardacre says...

Hoofarted wrote:
Short sightedness appears prominent.

Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget.

Now which do you want folks;

The old services unaffected?

The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money?

Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly?

It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.
Except that CYC is ignoring the government capping so your argument falls at the first hurdle.
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: Short sightedness appears prominent. Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget. Now which do you want folks; The old services unaffected? The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money? Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly? It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.[/p][/quote]Except that CYC is ignoring the government capping so your argument falls at the first hurdle. JHardacre
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8:31am Tue 5 Feb 13

Rich Picking says...

Rubbish !!!! That will be next !........I am certainly not going to pay for my green bin to be emptied, they need to make the savings elsewhere. They must have saved a fortune by not collecting my grey bin for almost 4 weeks not so long back. They could also save money by not planting out all the beds , tubs and hanging baskets around the city (ooops we cannot upset the tourists)
Rubbish !!!! That will be next !........I am certainly not going to pay for my green bin to be emptied, they need to make the savings elsewhere. They must have saved a fortune by not collecting my grey bin for almost 4 weeks not so long back. They could also save money by not planting out all the beds , tubs and hanging baskets around the city (ooops we cannot upset the tourists) Rich Picking
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8:43am Tue 5 Feb 13

glyn says...

Quite simple.
Put all your waste in a bio degradable cardboard box and deliver it to the council car park.
I'm sorry but this is the only language they understand.
If your lucky it will rain over night and make the boxes unmanageable.
Quite simple. Put all your waste in a bio degradable cardboard box and deliver it to the council car park. I'm sorry but this is the only language they understand. If your lucky it will rain over night and make the boxes unmanageable. glyn
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8:47am Tue 5 Feb 13

THE BEAR!!! says...

i can see it now... roadsides all around york covered in peoples green waste. People finding their own dumping ground. absolute tards...How much would this of cost at just this debate level? Do people really get paid for these kind of ideas... Get me a job there, i've got loads of cr*p ideas that i'm sure york city council would pay for...
You're no dragons den CYC.
i can see it now... roadsides all around york covered in peoples green waste. People finding their own dumping ground. absolute tards...How much would this of cost at just this debate level? Do people really get paid for these kind of ideas... Get me a job there, i've got loads of cr*p ideas that i'm sure york city council would pay for... You're no dragons den CYC. THE BEAR!!!
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8:49am Tue 5 Feb 13

anistasia says...

This year people on benefits are asked to pay some rent and council tax due to cut backs all fair to pay something I'm ok with that.but then the council tax going up and now proposing charges to empty green bins the council tax should cover this.dss at one time said the law says you need this amount to live on.but all these extras people must be getting under minimum payments now.north Yorkshire county council have plans to freeze tax rise third year running helped by government cash back.city of York council rejected any funding .there was something if councils put up council tax by 2% the government would step in so what have York council done kept the rise just below 2% are 1.9%.hos does this help people in poverty.
This year people on benefits are asked to pay some rent and council tax due to cut backs all fair to pay something I'm ok with that.but then the council tax going up and now proposing charges to empty green bins the council tax should cover this.dss at one time said the law says you need this amount to live on.but all these extras people must be getting under minimum payments now.north Yorkshire county council have plans to freeze tax rise third year running helped by government cash back.city of York council rejected any funding .there was something if councils put up council tax by 2% the government would step in so what have York council done kept the rise just below 2% are 1.9%.hos does this help people in poverty. anistasia
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8:52am Tue 5 Feb 13

capt spaulding says...

soprano 2 wrote:
Do the landlords of student accommodation have to pay Council Tax, if not why not? Here in France there are two types of Council Tax, one for the owner and one for the occupier - you pay both if you are the owner occupier. As there is a large student population in York, that must add up to a very large amount of income lost each year.
I agree, but there are those Guardianistas on here who carp on constantly about lack of affordable and high rents !

Putting further charges on students and landlords will push rents up even more, probably forcing the hawked to the neck landlords out and then there will be even less affordable.

Simple economics.
[quote][p][bold]soprano 2[/bold] wrote: Do the landlords of student accommodation have to pay Council Tax, if not why not? Here in France there are two types of Council Tax, one for the owner and one for the occupier - you pay both if you are the owner occupier. As there is a large student population in York, that must add up to a very large amount of income lost each year.[/p][/quote]I agree, but there are those Guardianistas on here who carp on constantly about lack of affordable and high rents ! Putting further charges on students and landlords will push rents up even more, probably forcing the hawked to the neck landlords out and then there will be even less affordable. Simple economics. capt spaulding
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8:56am Tue 5 Feb 13

Davroshasissues says...

So, recycling and disposing of our waste responsibly has been pushed on us for years...explaining the benefits to the environment etc...

But now they want to tax us more for the recycling that THEY imposed on us in the first place? Rediculous!

No problem, i got the grey bin, that'll do...
So, recycling and disposing of our waste responsibly has been pushed on us for years...explaining the benefits to the environment etc... But now they want to tax us more for the recycling that THEY imposed on us in the first place? Rediculous! No problem, i got the grey bin, that'll do... Davroshasissues
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9:28am Tue 5 Feb 13

elliehick says...

They want to charge us for green waste collections? Im sorry, but I thought that was what the council tax was for? Oh and im sorry, isnt that going up as well?????
They want to charge us for green waste collections? Im sorry, but I thought that was what the council tax was for? Oh and im sorry, isnt that going up as well????? elliehick
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9:46am Tue 5 Feb 13

Guy Fawkes says...

Putting further charges on students and landlords will push rents up even more, probably forcing the hawked to the neck landlords out and then there will be even less affordable.

See my earlier post - there's no need. Students' council tax is paid to the council in whose patch they live, directly, by Central Government, out of the national tax pot. You can argue about whether it should be or not, but as things stand no council loses out from having significant numbers of student HMOs.

I don't know whether councils get reimbursed from Central Government for residents who pay less or no council tax for other reasons (e.g. council tax discounts because of low income, single person discount etc.). If they don't, then from the point of view of a council's bottom line at any rate, the more students we have living in the city, the better.
[quote]Putting further charges on students and landlords will push rents up even more, probably forcing the hawked to the neck landlords out and then there will be even less affordable.[quote] See my earlier post - there's no need. Students' council tax is paid to the council in whose patch they live, directly, by Central Government, out of the national tax pot. You can argue about whether it should be or not, but as things stand no council loses out from having significant numbers of student HMOs. I don't know whether councils get reimbursed from Central Government for residents who pay less or no council tax for other reasons (e.g. council tax discounts because of low income, single person discount etc.). If they don't, then from the point of view of a council's bottom line at any rate, the more students we have living in the city, the better. Guy Fawkes
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10:10am Tue 5 Feb 13

Hoofarted says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
Short sightedness appears prominent.

Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget.

Now which do you want folks;

The old services unaffected?

The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money?

Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly?

It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.
It's easier for Labour stooges like this merchant, to blame it on the government, whilst this council play fast and loose, wasting millions.on non-essential vanity projects.

This is political gameplaying by Labour - everyone can see that, apart from Hoofarted, who talks out of his a**e !
Dropping to a**e insults again i see Mr Laverack. Bin like debating about bin issues really does suit your intelligence.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: Short sightedness appears prominent. Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget. Now which do you want folks; The old services unaffected? The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money? Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly? It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.[/p][/quote]It's easier for Labour stooges like this merchant, to blame it on the government, whilst this council play fast and loose, wasting millions.on non-essential vanity projects. This is political gameplaying by Labour - everyone can see that, apart from Hoofarted, who talks out of his a**e ![/p][/quote]Dropping to a**e insults again i see Mr Laverack. Bin like debating about bin issues really does suit your intelligence. Hoofarted
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10:11am Tue 5 Feb 13

MouseHouse says...

I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it.

Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating.

Dear oh dear...
I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it. Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating. Dear oh dear... MouseHouse
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10:17am Tue 5 Feb 13

julius caesar says...

MouseHouse wrote:
I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it.

Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating.

Dear oh dear...
They are so pathetic a nursery school class could run the city better.
[quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote: I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it. Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating. Dear oh dear...[/p][/quote]They are so pathetic a nursery school class could run the city better. julius caesar
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10:18am Tue 5 Feb 13

Hoofarted says...

JHardacre wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
Short sightedness appears prominent.

Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget.

Now which do you want folks;

The old services unaffected?

The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money?

Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly?

It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.
Except that CYC is ignoring the government capping so your argument falls at the first hurdle.
Wrong! York have increased increased their amount by 1.9% for 2013 to 2014. The Government cap is no more than 2%. This falls just below that amount.

So.. First hurdle cleared!
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: Short sightedness appears prominent. Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget. Now which do you want folks; The old services unaffected? The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money? Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly? It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.[/p][/quote]Except that CYC is ignoring the government capping so your argument falls at the first hurdle.[/p][/quote]Wrong! York have increased increased their amount by 1.9% for 2013 to 2014. The Government cap is no more than 2%. This falls just below that amount. So.. First hurdle cleared! Hoofarted
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10:25am Tue 5 Feb 13

willo the wisp says...

If they try charging me they can have their bin back immediately and stick it where the sun don't shine....

One more reason to consider leaving York, I hate living under these brainless morons.
If they try charging me they can have their bin back immediately and stick it where the sun don't shine.... One more reason to consider leaving York, I hate living under these brainless morons. willo the wisp
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10:42am Tue 5 Feb 13

electricwarrior says...

Do the council seriously think that residents will want to take part in a food waste collection. Imagine the mess that would create.
Do the council seriously think that residents will want to take part in a food waste collection. Imagine the mess that would create. electricwarrior
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11:16am Tue 5 Feb 13

peter123456 says...

As I already pay for all my types of rubbish to be collected including the truck and the bin men that collect my bins. I can not see how you can pay again for something you already pay for. Best IDEA for Yorks Labour council would be to reduce all overheads by 99.99%. Also part of the big society were ALL I repeat ALL residence have their say but do the listen that is the question.
As I already pay for all my types of rubbish to be collected including the truck and the bin men that collect my bins. I can not see how you can pay again for something you already pay for. Best IDEA for Yorks Labour council would be to reduce all overheads by 99.99%. Also part of the big society were ALL I repeat ALL residence have their say but do the listen that is the question. peter123456
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11:43am Tue 5 Feb 13

BL2 says...

They can have my green bin back then and anything I would normally put in it (not much) will be going in the grey one.
They can have my green bin back then and anything I would normally put in it (not much) will be going in the grey one. BL2
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12:18pm Tue 5 Feb 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

And Don't forget that Green Cllr Andy D supported green bin charging. He said so on Radio York.
I told you going Green is expensive!
And Don't forget that Green Cllr Andy D supported green bin charging. He said so on Radio York. I told you going Green is expensive! ColdAsChristmas
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12:59pm Tue 5 Feb 13

John Cossham says...

tizme wrote:
OK, so I won't use my green bin. I'll compost at home. Now how about my refund of council tax for the years I've been doing it anyway!
I support this; I refused the green bin as I like composting at home. This is why I support individuals paying for services they use.

The green bin system was introduced in the first place to increase the reported recycling rate, and this reduced the amount of home composting going on.

Home composting is far superior to the green bin system as anyone can put pesticide-laden lawn clippings into the Council bin, so potentially contaminating the Council compost. I know EXACTLY what's in the compost I spread on my garden!
[quote][p][bold]tizme[/bold] wrote: OK, so I won't use my green bin. I'll compost at home. Now how about my refund of council tax for the years I've been doing it anyway![/p][/quote]I support this; I refused the green bin as I like composting at home. This is why I support individuals paying for services they use. The green bin system was introduced in the first place to increase the reported recycling rate, and this reduced the amount of home composting going on. Home composting is far superior to the green bin system as anyone can put pesticide-laden lawn clippings into the Council bin, so potentially contaminating the Council compost. I know EXACTLY what's in the compost I spread on my garden! John Cossham
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1:04pm Tue 5 Feb 13

John Cossham says...

MouseHouse wrote:
I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it.

Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating.

Dear oh dear...
Nope, they can't sell it as it's not good quality. Home compost is the best quality material you can put on your garden.
[quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote: I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it. Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating. Dear oh dear...[/p][/quote]Nope, they can't sell it as it's not good quality. Home compost is the best quality material you can put on your garden. John Cossham
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1:06pm Tue 5 Feb 13

ReginaldBiscuit says...

Thinking a little out of the (and out of my box) here.

Councils are unlike other organisations which you get your services from. If you are unhappy with your energy bill from edf for example, you can choose another supplier. Sadly, all are now foreign owned and any token regulation which happens is just that. Ofgem are an utter joke. Come to think of it, anything with an 'Of' in front of it is a utter joke. Without real power, staffed by men of straw taking a pay cheque, subjugated and subservient to the organisations they control, quango-centric with a government portfolio.

Anyway, council. Because we are bound to the council, I feel that residents should be seen as 'shareholders' and as such, have a greater say in the council. How it is staffed, managed and run for example. At the moment, there is little or no accountability which is a very dangerous thing and this is ultimately what is wrong.

In terms of this story (and others), it will be no different. The council will go ahead and do what it wants to do anyway because they always think that 'they know best' when most of the time, the reverse is true. It's the minority decisions in this country (and others) which are ruining it for the majority. A free vote on the death penalty for example would almost certainly yield an interesting outcome but again the minority will see to it that it doesn't happen. Like the in/out euro question, It would only happen if it became a hot vote winning issue such as same sex marriages and who honestly gives a monkey's truss about that?

Onwards and downwards.
Thinking a little out of the (and out of my box) here. Councils are unlike other organisations which you get your services from. If you are unhappy with your energy bill from edf for example, you can choose another supplier. Sadly, all are now foreign owned and any token regulation which happens is just that. Ofgem are an utter joke. Come to think of it, anything with an 'Of' in front of it is a utter joke. Without real power, staffed by men of straw taking a pay cheque, subjugated and subservient to the organisations they control, quango-centric with a government portfolio. Anyway, council. Because we are bound to the council, I feel that residents should be seen as 'shareholders' and as such, have a greater say in the council. How it is staffed, managed and run for example. At the moment, there is little or no accountability which is a very dangerous thing and this is ultimately what is wrong. In terms of this story (and others), it will be no different. The council will go ahead and do what it wants to do anyway because they always think that 'they know best' when most of the time, the reverse is true. It's the minority decisions in this country (and others) which are ruining it for the majority. A free vote on the death penalty for example would almost certainly yield an interesting outcome but again the minority will see to it that it doesn't happen. Like the in/out euro question, It would only happen if it became a hot vote winning issue such as same sex marriages and who honestly gives a monkey's truss about that? Onwards and downwards. ReginaldBiscuit
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1:34pm Tue 5 Feb 13

meme says...

Has anyone actually tried to get normal and recycling bins?
It took me nearly 6 moths to get a waste wheelie bin
When it finally arrived I chased and chased for the recycling boxes and then to my delight got 2 sets within 24 hours of each other!
I tried to return one set but gave up after a while as no one seemed to want them back!
If that's how efficient our waste department is no wonder they need to charge for a terrible service
Has anyone actually tried to get normal and recycling bins? It took me nearly 6 moths to get a waste wheelie bin When it finally arrived I chased and chased for the recycling boxes and then to my delight got 2 sets within 24 hours of each other! I tried to return one set but gave up after a while as no one seemed to want them back! If that's how efficient our waste department is no wonder they need to charge for a terrible service meme
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1:57pm Tue 5 Feb 13

Kevin Turvey says...

York city council is there is undertake basic services for York residents paid for by residents through council tax and by some money by central government.
If they are not capable of undertaking these simple tasks then they should all be replaced with something that does.

It’s time the voter got what we want and that the council that is in fear of us not the council that we fear!


York city council have had it easy from me for years.

I compost my own green waste and I have 5 large compost bins at the bottom of the garden.

The only green waste I have put out is when they are full.

So do I get a reduction on my council tax for all the years that I have not been putting out my green bin? No.

Even when they come to collect it the lorry reverses over the gardens in the street! When you complain you just get no response from the unaccountable buffoons that work there.

The thing is once charging is in place it will expand to all the other forms of waste as well.

What will happen is that flytipping will get out of hand.

It would be unfortunate if all the flytipping turned out to be in the nice shiney new entrance of the new council offices! Well they wanted it to be green!

This country is heading for serious dissent and worse, all it takes is another few little squeezes and then an unexpected event such as bad weather/ strike etc and that’s it’s a change of regime within 3 days.
York city council is there is undertake basic services for York residents paid for by residents through council tax and by some money by central government. If they are not capable of undertaking these simple tasks then they should all be replaced with something that does. It’s time the voter got what we want and that the council that is in fear of us not the council that we fear! York city council have had it easy from me for years. I compost my own green waste and I have 5 large compost bins at the bottom of the garden. The only green waste I have put out is when they are full. So do I get a reduction on my council tax for all the years that I have not been putting out my green bin? No. Even when they come to collect it the lorry reverses over the gardens in the street! When you complain you just get no response from the unaccountable buffoons that work there. The thing is once charging is in place it will expand to all the other forms of waste as well. What will happen is that flytipping will get out of hand. It would be unfortunate if all the flytipping turned out to be in the nice shiney new entrance of the new council offices! Well they wanted it to be green! This country is heading for serious dissent and worse, all it takes is another few little squeezes and then an unexpected event such as bad weather/ strike etc and that’s it’s a change of regime within 3 days. Kevin Turvey
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2:57pm Tue 5 Feb 13

steve_york says...

scandaluos
scandaluos steve_york
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3:10pm Tue 5 Feb 13

stephen123 says...

It appears that the whole recycling process is just not cost effective. So scrap it and go back to having one black bin.

lets not encourage people to drive to the tip increasing the carbon footprint every time they need to get rid of green waste.

I am certainly not paying for any services that the council decides the public should subsidise.
It appears that the whole recycling process is just not cost effective. So scrap it and go back to having one black bin. lets not encourage people to drive to the tip increasing the carbon footprint every time they need to get rid of green waste. I am certainly not paying for any services that the council decides the public should subsidise. stephen123
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3:49pm Tue 5 Feb 13

The Junkyard Angel says...

meme wrote:
Has anyone actually tried to get normal and recycling bins? It took me nearly 6 moths to get a waste wheelie bin When it finally arrived I chased and chased for the recycling boxes and then to my delight got 2 sets within 24 hours of each other! I tried to return one set but gave up after a while as no one seemed to want them back! If that's how efficient our waste department is no wonder they need to charge for a terrible service
meme..lucky you getting a green bin for only'6 moths' very cheap eh!!!
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Has anyone actually tried to get normal and recycling bins? It took me nearly 6 moths to get a waste wheelie bin When it finally arrived I chased and chased for the recycling boxes and then to my delight got 2 sets within 24 hours of each other! I tried to return one set but gave up after a while as no one seemed to want them back! If that's how efficient our waste department is no wonder they need to charge for a terrible service[/p][/quote]meme..lucky you getting a green bin for only'6 moths' very cheap eh!!! The Junkyard Angel
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3:50pm Tue 5 Feb 13

excabbie says...

Would be interesting to know how much the council make out of the paper cardboard glass tins etc that is recycled every year.
Perhaps the money made can be used to off set the cost of green waste recycling.
Also an interesting fact for you all, most of all that paper/cardboard ends up in china and Indonesia, only this morning I loaded a shipping container with recycled news print destined for china, how sending it to Asia is green I don't know!!
Would be interesting to know how much the council make out of the paper cardboard glass tins etc that is recycled every year. Perhaps the money made can be used to off set the cost of green waste recycling. Also an interesting fact for you all, most of all that paper/cardboard ends up in china and Indonesia, only this morning I loaded a shipping container with recycled news print destined for china, how sending it to Asia is green I don't know!! excabbie
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4:26pm Tue 5 Feb 13

johnwill says...

Lucky I have a woodburning stove, burns anything. plastic bottles, cartons, paper just like an incinerator. Compost grass and hedge cuttings in my garden. I shan't be paying YCC anything extra, they get enough in council tax for us not be be charged again for providing a service.
Lucky I have a woodburning stove, burns anything. plastic bottles, cartons, paper just like an incinerator. Compost grass and hedge cuttings in my garden. I shan't be paying YCC anything extra, they get enough in council tax for us not be be charged again for providing a service. johnwill
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4:32pm Tue 5 Feb 13

TheTruthHurts says...

John Cossham wrote:
MouseHouse wrote:
I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it.

Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating.

Dear oh dear...
Nope, they can't sell it as it's not good quality. Home compost is the best quality material you can put on your garden.
Dont forget well rotted horse manure from the local stables!
'
I have a large garden, I have two green bins, two large compost bins, a big compost heap and the odd bonfire yet during the summer months i still have excess waste. If they start charging me for green bins then i will just pile this up on the riverbank at the bottom of the garden and wait for nature to 'collect' it for me.
[quote][p][bold]John Cossham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote: I understood the council complsted the garden waste, and then sold it. Assuing that is the case they're going to reduce the amount of green material for them to later sell. This seems self-defeating. Dear oh dear...[/p][/quote]Nope, they can't sell it as it's not good quality. Home compost is the best quality material you can put on your garden.[/p][/quote]Dont forget well rotted horse manure from the local stables! ' I have a large garden, I have two green bins, two large compost bins, a big compost heap and the odd bonfire yet during the summer months i still have excess waste. If they start charging me for green bins then i will just pile this up on the riverbank at the bottom of the garden and wait for nature to 'collect' it for me. TheTruthHurts
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4:33pm Tue 5 Feb 13

anistasia says...

Mind the council don't charge you if your in smokeless zone they get you somehow to pay.
Mind the council don't charge you if your in smokeless zone they get you somehow to pay. anistasia
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4:58pm Tue 5 Feb 13

bob the builder says...

I thought only York residents could use the tip, that's why it has number plate recognition cameras, you're only allowed six small loads of rubble in a year, and surely you should charge for non-recyclable waste to reduce landfill, not the other way round?
Despite the claim that they don't collect if the bin lids not down, I see so many overflowing like that that get emptied every fortnight and no recycling out the following week, it is obvious who you should be charging if you walk the streets.
I thought only York residents could use the tip, that's why it has number plate recognition cameras, you're only allowed six small loads of rubble in a year, and surely you should charge for non-recyclable waste to reduce landfill, not the other way round? Despite the claim that they don't collect if the bin lids not down, I see so many overflowing like that that get emptied every fortnight and no recycling out the following week, it is obvious who you should be charging if you walk the streets. bob the builder
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5:13pm Tue 5 Feb 13

YorkShrimper says...

On the one hand the council faces higher costs for land fill, and on the other it wants to dissuade residents from using green bins, which I guess will lead to more going to landfill.....

If £580k needs to be saved over the next 2 years, maybe they should look at whether £1m+ needs to be spent on furniture in the new offices - is this really essential spend?

Be interesting to see if they do put this to public consultation, and if so, will they listen?
On the one hand the council faces higher costs for land fill, and on the other it wants to dissuade residents from using green bins, which I guess will lead to more going to landfill..... If £580k needs to be saved over the next 2 years, maybe they should look at whether £1m+ needs to be spent on furniture in the new offices - is this really essential spend? Be interesting to see if they do put this to public consultation, and if so, will they listen? YorkShrimper
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6:45pm Tue 5 Feb 13

mickeytops says...

Come on is that really the best you can do in that Council.
1. Charge people to use the site that are in vans and have trailers (most of them are buisinesses and no permits).
2. Look at the pay you pay and then look at the private sector you pay nearlly £4 an hour more for a carer then the private sector pays.
charging hard working people more to help you idiots out is wrong get rid of most of the over paid useless senior managers.
The Lord mayor goes round in that huge car when all top Military officers were all told to downgrade there cars would save a packet every year.
Come on is that really the best you can do in that Council. 1. Charge people to use the site that are in vans and have trailers (most of them are buisinesses and no permits). 2. Look at the pay you pay and then look at the private sector you pay nearlly £4 an hour more for a carer then the private sector pays. charging hard working people more to help you idiots out is wrong get rid of most of the over paid useless senior managers. The Lord mayor goes round in that huge car when all top Military officers were all told to downgrade there cars would save a packet every year. mickeytops
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8:59pm Tue 5 Feb 13

Silver says...

Personally I see the whole flytipping going on the rise and I don't think enforcement of it is an easy thing to do. After all if you fly tip green waste how on earth are they going to work out it was you?
Then they'll have to pay to get it removed anyway....seems redundant and more expensive to me
Personally I see the whole flytipping going on the rise and I don't think enforcement of it is an easy thing to do. After all if you fly tip green waste how on earth are they going to work out it was you? Then they'll have to pay to get it removed anyway....seems redundant and more expensive to me Silver
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9:29pm Tue 5 Feb 13

JHardacre says...

Hoofarted wrote:
JHardacre wrote:
Hoofarted wrote:
Short sightedness appears prominent.

Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget.

Now which do you want folks;

The old services unaffected?

The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money?

Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly?

It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.
Except that CYC is ignoring the government capping so your argument falls at the first hurdle.
Wrong! York have increased increased their amount by 1.9% for 2013 to 2014. The Government cap is no more than 2%. This falls just below that amount.

So.. First hurdle cleared!
From The Press "The Labour cabinet plans to reject a Government grant to freeze council tax next year"

Over to you.
[quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Hoofarted[/bold] wrote: Short sightedness appears prominent. Central Government have capped councils from spending. This then forces councils to either slip into debt or cut to balance the budget. Now which do you want folks; The old services unaffected? The Uncomfortable cuts to afford the limited money? Or another Government that doesn't play politics with council tax spending and funds them properly? It's far too easy to blame it on the administrations forced to juggle with these ideological games.[/p][/quote]Except that CYC is ignoring the government capping so your argument falls at the first hurdle.[/p][/quote]Wrong! York have increased increased their amount by 1.9% for 2013 to 2014. The Government cap is no more than 2%. This falls just below that amount. So.. First hurdle cleared![/p][/quote]From The Press "The Labour cabinet plans to reject a Government grant to freeze council tax next year" Over to you. JHardacre
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10:21pm Tue 5 Feb 13

John Cossham says...

johnwill wrote:
Lucky I have a woodburning stove, burns anything. plastic bottles, cartons, paper just like an incinerator. Compost grass and hedge cuttings in my garden. I shan't be paying YCC anything extra, they get enough in council tax for us not be be charged again for providing a service.
Oh dear, although I approve of johnwill's home composting, the ignorance of burning plastic bottles and cartons in an ordinary woodburner is shocking.

If plastic is burnt at 'ordinary' temperatures found in woodburners, there is a serious risk of some exceedingly nasty carcinogenic chemicals such as dioxins and furans being formed. Burning plastic in this way is illegal and wrong. What is your recycling box for? Put your plastic bottles in that. Cartons are not currently collected but you can take them to a Civic Amenity Site where there are 'bring banks'.

Please recycle responsibly.
[quote][p][bold]johnwill[/bold] wrote: Lucky I have a woodburning stove, burns anything. plastic bottles, cartons, paper just like an incinerator. Compost grass and hedge cuttings in my garden. I shan't be paying YCC anything extra, they get enough in council tax for us not be be charged again for providing a service.[/p][/quote]Oh dear, although I approve of johnwill's home composting, the ignorance of burning plastic bottles and cartons in an ordinary woodburner is shocking. If plastic is burnt at 'ordinary' temperatures found in woodburners, there is a serious risk of some exceedingly nasty carcinogenic chemicals such as dioxins and furans being formed. Burning plastic in this way is illegal and wrong. What is your recycling box for? Put your plastic bottles in that. Cartons are not currently collected but you can take them to a Civic Amenity Site where there are 'bring banks'. Please recycle responsibly. John Cossham
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11:14pm Tue 5 Feb 13

York Manor says...

Forget this stupidity, we become more of a third world country as each day passes. YCC can take all my recycling boxes back with the green bin and I will put everything in the black one again. It's about time we actually got someone who knows what they are doing at the council and for that matter in the House of Commons as well.
The next thing we will hear is that the council will want Richard III remains back!
Forget this stupidity, we become more of a third world country as each day passes. YCC can take all my recycling boxes back with the green bin and I will put everything in the black one again. It's about time we actually got someone who knows what they are doing at the council and for that matter in the House of Commons as well. The next thing we will hear is that the council will want Richard III remains back! York Manor
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9:28am Wed 6 Feb 13

hikerman says...

I compost at home and never used the green bin more people compost in york and don't us the free green bin there is very little green bins out on collection days in most areas in york go out and look york council.
I compost at home and never used the green bin more people compost in york and don't us the free green bin there is very little green bins out on collection days in most areas in york go out and look york council. hikerman
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10:16am Wed 6 Feb 13

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

Write, email, telephone your Ward Councillor particularly if he/she is Labour, and tell them that unless they start serving the public and listening to them you will never vote for them again.
Attend all Council meetings where issues you care about are discussed. Read the Agenda first on-line on the CYC website ,Register to speak at the Meeting and then put your point/s.Write them down first and be concise!
If every Meeting had enough active electors then perhaps we would have a democracy.
Write, email, telephone your Ward Councillor particularly if he/she is Labour, and tell them that unless they start serving the public and listening to them you will never vote for them again. Attend all Council meetings where issues you care about are discussed. Read the Agenda first on-line on the CYC website ,Register to speak at the Meeting and then put your point/s.Write them down first and be concise! If every Meeting had enough active electors then perhaps we would have a democracy. Older Sometimes Wiser
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10:45am Wed 6 Feb 13

m dee says...

Several hundred thousand pounds of taxpayers money to set up to keep ongoing land fill taxes down.

any resident now with a couple of bags of green waste with the choice pay for green bin collected or use the vacant space in black bin what will they do?,result York council facing increase in landfill taxes.
Several hundred thousand pounds of taxpayers money to set up to keep ongoing land fill taxes down. any resident now with a couple of bags of green waste with the choice pay for green bin collected or use the vacant space in black bin what will they do?,result York council facing increase in landfill taxes. m dee
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10:46am Wed 6 Feb 13

Alfredd-g says...

I am going to buy myself a shredder and put all my green waste back onto my garden. I will also write to YCC and ask them to remove my green bin within 14 days. If they don't do this, then I am going to charge them a rent for storing it. Whilst on the subject of saving / raising money. How about a hotel tax on tourists? Failing that YCC could perhaps have a flag week each year and collect money in the streets.
I am going to buy myself a shredder and put all my green waste back onto my garden. I will also write to YCC and ask them to remove my green bin within 14 days. If they don't do this, then I am going to charge them a rent for storing it. Whilst on the subject of saving / raising money. How about a hotel tax on tourists? Failing that YCC could perhaps have a flag week each year and collect money in the streets. Alfredd-g
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12:56pm Wed 6 Feb 13

Paul2012 says...

http://www.facebook.
com/SayNoToTheGreenB
inIncreasedTax

Like and Say NO
http://www.facebook. com/SayNoToTheGreenB inIncreasedTax Like and Say NO Paul2012
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2:14pm Thu 7 Feb 13

anistasia says...

Where does the council think the money is coming from a lot of people on benefits in York this year have to pay so much rent and council tax I am all for this everyone paying their way.but this year they will have the above to pay plus rises in water, gas, electric and now council going on about green bin tax.how are these people going to pay.my concerns are will it cause homelessness and push people over the edge who have a mental illness.
Where does the council think the money is coming from a lot of people on benefits in York this year have to pay so much rent and council tax I am all for this everyone paying their way.but this year they will have the above to pay plus rises in water, gas, electric and now council going on about green bin tax.how are these people going to pay.my concerns are will it cause homelessness and push people over the edge who have a mental illness. anistasia
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1:30am Sun 10 Feb 13

greenmonkey says...

Lets face the facts - people who produce little waste, live in houses without gardens, recycle all they can etc... are currently subsidising those who fill their black bin and green bin every time. A big annual charge for green bins would end up being counter productive. The budget has to be cut (thanks to Tory/Lib Dem government cuts), so a relatively modest monthly charge and cutting out winter collections is the most likely scenario to my mind. As long as the charge is less than petrol and disposal cost of taking it to a recycling centre by car, a small charge is likely to encourage home composting where people can. Free compost bins in exchange for handing back a green bin should be an option.
Lets face the facts - people who produce little waste, live in houses without gardens, recycle all they can etc... are currently subsidising those who fill their black bin and green bin every time. A big annual charge for green bins would end up being counter productive. The budget has to be cut (thanks to Tory/Lib Dem government cuts), so a relatively modest monthly charge and cutting out winter collections is the most likely scenario to my mind. As long as the charge is less than petrol and disposal cost of taking it to a recycling centre by car, a small charge is likely to encourage home composting where people can. Free compost bins in exchange for handing back a green bin should be an option. greenmonkey
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12:57pm Mon 11 Feb 13

Ichabod76 says...

greenmonkey says...
1:30am Sun 10 Feb 13

The budget has to be cut (thanks to Tory/Lib Dem government cuts)

The budget has to be cut because the Labour run council are borrowing and spending more than they are saving !
greenmonkey says... 1:30am Sun 10 Feb 13 The budget has to be cut (thanks to Tory/Lib Dem government cuts) The budget has to be cut because the Labour run council are borrowing and spending more than they are saving ! Ichabod76
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