Family’s anguish as yobs pelt mourners’ cars with snowballs

10:32am Saturday 2nd February 2013 in News Photograph of the Author By Dan Bean, dan.bean@thepress.co.uk

Philip Taylor, of Co-op Funeralcare, with the hearse which was pelted with snowballs Philip Taylor, of Co-op Funeralcare, with the hearse which was pelted with snowballs

A FUNERAL in York was disrupted when teenagers pelted the procession with snowballs.

About 50 mourners in almost 20 vehicles were travelling from York Crematorium following the funeral of 93-year-old mother and grandmother Joan Brown, of Skeldergate.

But as the procession passed Knavesmire, a gang of youths launched the insensitive attack.

Philip Taylor, the manager of Co-Operative Funeralcare, said the incident was distressing for the family – and this was not an isolated incident. Carol Butterfield, Joan’s niece, had travelled from West Yorkshire for the funeral.

She said: “There was nowhere to go, nowhere to hide. We couldn’t turn round. We just had to go with it. They were laughing and giggling and jumping up and down. They were youths, not small children. I would say they were in their early teens.

“Everyone was fuming, but no-one could put their windows down because you could be pelted. It seemed never-ending, but probably lasted about five minutes.

“We were waiting for it to happen, because we could see it happening to the car in front. We were like sitting ducks.”

Mrs Butterfield said the incident last Monday “scared and frightened” the mourners, from teenagers to pensioners, and “made the mood worse”.

Mr Taylor, of Co-Operative Funeralcare, said: “This happens up and down the country. It’s a lack of respect not just to funeral cars but society in general.

“What these lads did by snowballing that car was make that day just that little bit worse for the family.

“The limousine went past the lads after dropping the family off and got pelted again, and the driver stopped to get out and talk to them.

“He explained to them what they had done, that it was a funeral, and they apologised.”

Mrs Butterfield said: “I sincerely hope that when these youths are paying a last tribute to a loved one, nothing like this ever happens to them. No-one should have this kind of distress added to that of a sad ceremonial occasion as we did. They should be ashamed of themselves.”

Mr Taylor said: “I would send a message to every single young person out there that when they are enjoying the snow, as we all do, and look up and think ‘shall I throw a snowball at that car?’, they should consider whether it could go through the windscreen, hit the driver and cause a crash, and also think how it would feel if they were sitting in the back of the car after cremating their grandparent and were suddenly pelted with snowballs.”

A spokesman for North Yorkshire Police said: “We don’t want to spoil anyone’s fun, but would remind people that throwing snowballs at moving vehicles is irresponsible and potentially dangerous.”

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alimount says...
10:36am Sat 2 Feb 13

Absolute gutter scum

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voiceofnormalpeople says...
10:38am Sat 2 Feb 13

The police should have rounded them up and got there parents to appologise in the press. I bet it would have been with out supprise the type of parents they would have been. Its all about upbringing. or lack of.

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A user says...
11:05am Sat 2 Feb 13

Totally agree with the previous comments. All this stems from upbringing. These kids will also be disruptive at school I dare say. Teachers can't touch them. Parents dare not touch them - or probably do not care what their kids are doing anyway, as long as they are away from the house....

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ReginaldBiscuit says...
11:11am Sat 2 Feb 13

They're not savages or scum. They're just semi-evolved simians. Ringleaders start it and the more impressionable apes join in. A complete lack of understanding leads to a complete lack of respect. Gross stupidity is infectious in those with low IQ. You know what, it is the parents fault. You make them, you shape them. Having a child is a responsibility.

When I take power (better that it never happens don't), I'll enforce punishment but not a physical beating. The punishment would not allow the miscreants to hide behind their age and the law. If it was possible to identify the main culprits, I'd chain them overnight in a morgue and leave a couple of freshly unwrapped cadavers out on the slabs for them to see and experience. It might actually make them think what a dead body is about. The next day, I'd sit them down with the family of the deceased and make them explain their actions. Look them in the face and explain why their actions are utterly contemptible for beings who can think and reason.

Cause and affect Boris focussing on the effect.

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LackOfIntegrity says...
11:29am Sat 2 Feb 13

This article is littered with what I shall diplomatically call "mistakes":

1) There were not "about 50 mourners".

2) There were not "almost 20 vehicles".

3) There was no "gang" of youths. There was a group of children messing about in the snow.

4) The "attack" did not last "about five minutes". It lasted about five seconds.

5) The "attack" consisted of a couple of snowballs being thrown at moving vehicles, an obviously stupid thing to do. But no harm was done, and hopefully the culprits learned their lesson, perhaps being told by one of their more sensible friends that they ought not to have done it.

I feel qualified to make this comment as I was travelling in the first vehicle.

I would also like to add that any distress (minimal) caused by a couple of kids is as nothing compared to seeing this pack of lies & exaggerations appear here.

Finally, to anyone who feels driven to comment on this or any other article, I would just ask you to consider the possibility that what you are reading is not, actually, always the "truth".

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eurosteve says...
11:39am Sat 2 Feb 13

York - unfortunately has the perfect demographics to support a huge yob presence , its evident everywhere you go including the "quaint streets".
These gormless toerags then move on from this sort of stuff to more serious behaviour ie the man attacked in Acomb last week and assaulted so badly he died.
So for me despite having lots of cafes / restaurants , nice architecture & museums its not a desirable place to actually live any longer , take a good look at the city map and once you cross out certain areas there isnt much left thats safe & affordable.
Should people have to drive everywhere or take a Taxi to ensure door to door safety?

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Exiled1 says...
11:40am Sat 2 Feb 13

Perhaps Philip Taylor just wanted to get his bouffant on the front page of the Press!

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alan_music says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is


Idiot!

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Jo_ says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

I got attacked by a bunch of youths on Acomb green. They were throwing snowballs at passing cars and as I walked past with my partner they shouted "let's get these people". They ran up to us and began throwing snowballs. They hit me in my face several times. My partner told them they might cause an accident and next thing we know they surrounded us, maybe 6 feet away from us, and began swearing and threatening us. I called the police who said they were too busy. Eventually (after about 5 minutes) the youths ran off, but they came back later and carried on throwing snowballs at passing cars.

When I got home I was shaking and crying. My sympathies go out to the poor mourners who had to undergo their ordeal.

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Blythespirit says...
11:54am Sat 2 Feb 13

Another non-story from the Press it would seem. The driver said he got out of the car and had a talk with the kids, who then apologised. Hardly 'gutter scum' as one of your comments describes them.

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Seadog says...
11:57am Sat 2 Feb 13

LackOfIntegrity's post - ironically - does appear to have the "integrity" of an actual eyewitness. Very interesting! I do wonder, though, if - as he was in the first car - he may not have seen what followed.

Just a thought. I don't know. I wasn't there.

As he says, though, it's obviously a stupid thing to do.

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bob the builder says...
12:41pm Sat 2 Feb 13

LackOfIntegrity wrote:
This article is littered with what I shall diplomatically call "mistakes":

1) There were not "about 50 mourners".

2) There were not "almost 20 vehicles".

3) There was no "gang" of youths. There was a group of children messing about in the snow.

4) The "attack" did not last "about five minutes". It lasted about five seconds.

5) The "attack" consisted of a couple of snowballs being thrown at moving vehicles, an obviously stupid thing to do. But no harm was done, and hopefully the culprits learned their lesson, perhaps being told by one of their more sensible friends that they ought not to have done it.

I feel qualified to make this comment as I was travelling in the first vehicle.

I would also like to add that any distress (minimal) caused by a couple of kids is as nothing compared to seeing this pack of lies & exaggerations appear here.

Finally, to anyone who feels driven to comment on this or any other article, I would just ask you to consider the possibility that what you are reading is not, actually, always the "truth".
I treat the Press as a penny dreadful, it's one of many regional papers trying to emulate the tabloids to keep circulation figures up and stop their owners from closing them. That said even one child throwing snowballs at a funeral car or cortege is indicative of a poor upbringing, and is disrespectful. I remember my father always making the sign of the cross when a cortege passed, though catholic it didn't matter what denomination if any, the deceased was.

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barcooter says...
1:50pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I'm sure that's a wig

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xtc says...
1:57pm Sat 2 Feb 13

alimount wrote:
Absolute gutter scum
Yorks scum rising to the top a coffin in a hearse is obviously a funeral like mourners in limo s insensitive scum how would they like it at a relatives funeral or travelling back!?

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Even AndyD says...
1:59pm Sat 2 Feb 13

LackOfIntegrity wrote:
This article is littered with what I shall diplomatically call "mistakes":

1) There were not "about 50 mourners".

2) There were not "almost 20 vehicles".

3) There was no "gang" of youths. There was a group of children messing about in the snow.

4) The "attack" did not last "about five minutes". It lasted about five seconds.

5) The "attack" consisted of a couple of snowballs being thrown at moving vehicles, an obviously stupid thing to do. But no harm was done, and hopefully the culprits learned their lesson, perhaps being told by one of their more sensible friends that they ought not to have done it.

I feel qualified to make this comment as I was travelling in the first vehicle.

I would also like to add that any distress (minimal) caused by a couple of kids is as nothing compared to seeing this pack of lies & exaggerations appear here.

Finally, to anyone who feels driven to comment on this or any other article, I would just ask you to consider the possibility that what you are reading is not, actually, always the "truth".
If this is true, then yet again, it is the Press's reporting which should be making headlines. As with the Gunpowder Plod fiasco, one has got to question reporting integrity. Get a grip editor.

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doltare says...
2:47pm Sat 2 Feb 13

These are the sort of idiots who parents shop in supermarkets! no idea how to communicate with people or show respect. They need teaching respect.

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bagnall1928@yahoo.com says...
4:47pm Sat 2 Feb 13

When my mother died, she lived in a small street off clifton Green, It was very moving that as the cortage left her house, people were standing outside their homes and on the main Clifton in a few moments of respect for her.
Im sure many people today do the same thing.
Perhaps parents dont tell their children what a funeral procession is and show good example by pausing a moment themselves when out with them.

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Guy Fawkes says...
5:03pm Sat 2 Feb 13

The problem is not just kids.

A couple of weeks ago I was driving on the outer ring road, on the stretch between the Wetherby Road and the A64. There was a hearse (with a coffin and flowers in it, and so clearly en route to a funeral), which I was following a safe distance behind. A 30-something woman in a Golf, who was on her mobile phone, came up behind me and aggressively tailgated me through the next roundabout. She then overtook both of us, forcing both the hearse and I to brake hard to allow her past in time to avoid hitting a Coastliner bus coming on the opposite carriageway. She was on the phone throughout the entire manoeuvre.

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RoseD says...
5:32pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Jo_ wrote:
I got attacked by a bunch of youths on Acomb green. They were throwing snowballs at passing cars and as I walked past with my partner they shouted "let's get these people". They ran up to us and began throwing snowballs. They hit me in my face several times. My partner told them they might cause an accident and next thing we know they surrounded us, maybe 6 feet away from us, and began swearing and threatening us. I called the police who said they were too busy. Eventually (after about 5 minutes) the youths ran off, but they came back later and carried on throwing snowballs at passing cars.

When I got home I was shaking and crying. My sympathies go out to the poor mourners who had to undergo their ordeal.
That sounds frightening and very distressing. Sadly what to do without escalating it? I'd be tempted to carry pepper spray but thats illegal.

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amykathleen2005 says...
5:54pm Sat 2 Feb 13

A spokesman for North Yorkshire Police said: “We don’t want to spoil anyone’s fun, but would remind people that throwing snowballs at moving vehicles is irresponsible and potentially dangerous.”

Really? Why are the police being apologetic. There's no need to worry they are spoiling anyone's fun, they are the police, they are supposed to worry about the public safety.

A murderer might think what he is doing is fun, what then? Are they going to say, "Sorry mate, don't want to ruin your fun, but you really can't go around stabbing people."

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bob the builder says...
6:04pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Guy Fawkes wrote:
The problem is not just kids.

A couple of weeks ago I was driving on the outer ring road, on the stretch between the Wetherby Road and the A64. There was a hearse (with a coffin and flowers in it, and so clearly en route to a funeral), which I was following a safe distance behind. A 30-something woman in a Golf, who was on her mobile phone, came up behind me and aggressively tailgated me through the next roundabout. She then overtook both of us, forcing both the hearse and I to brake hard to allow her past in time to avoid hitting a Coastliner bus coming on the opposite carriageway. She was on the phone throughout the entire manoeuvre.
... and you reported this to the Police? If vehicles were equipped with a remote controlled onboard camera these instances would reduce. They are also invaluable in accident situations to show who is at fault as they record undeletable GPS locations and footage automatically when specific decelleration occurs. Insurers should make them compulsory. They are very common in Eastern Europe and the Russian Federation.

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eurosteve says...
6:39pm Sat 2 Feb 13

alan_music says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is


Idiot!



ok so you think York is comparable to these cities ?? whos the idiot now

Acomb / Dringhouses / Foxwood / Chapelfields /Holgate Rd /Clifton / Bootham / Bell Farm /Heworth / Tang Hall /South Bank just to point out a large % of this city i wouldnt want to walk around in never mind live.

Too many people in York think its some kind of oasis where crime doesnt exist - i have seen the reality .

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carolinemac says...
6:43pm Sat 2 Feb 13

When we are not allowed to smack or discipline our own children - never mind other peoples - Why would these children stop? I was attacked with snowballs by a group of children that were throwing them hard at passing cars because I dared to say to them that it wasn't a very clever thing to do. They have no fear cause they know they can get away with it!!!!

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ColdAsChristmas says...
6:52pm Sat 2 Feb 13

There was a certain lack of respect, however long this attack endured.
I always thought it polite to remove one's head wear when a funeral procession passed as respect for the deceased.
Throwing snowballs is not respectful, even after the funeral.
And, just because London, Manchester and Newcastle might be dodgy places to live, that does not mean that York has to be that.
The Police, Council and Big Society need to sort it out!

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eeoodares says...
6:56pm Sat 2 Feb 13

eurosteve wrote:
alan_music says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is


Idiot!



ok so you think York is comparable to these cities ?? whos the idiot now

Acomb / Dringhouses / Foxwood / Chapelfields /Holgate Rd /Clifton / Bootham / Bell Farm /Heworth / Tang Hall /South Bank just to point out a large % of this city i wouldnt want to walk around in never mind live.

Too many people in York think its some kind of oasis where crime doesnt exist - i have seen the reality .
You clearly are a fool!
I lived in Clifton for years and most of it is great. Weird that you think that the whole of these areas are danger zones. I have never felt that.
It only takes a couple of 'problem' families in an area, a couple of reports in the paper and the whole neighbourhood gets tagged as 'rough'. Some people are gullible and are susceptible to this, it would appear you are one of these people.

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velvetdixie says...
7:00pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Fortunately everyone resisted the temptation to take out after these yobs with a vehicle and perhaps allow them to experience a taste of......

Or maybe an educational opportunity lost......

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Frodo Baggins says...
7:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Guy Fawkes wrote:
The problem is not just kids.

A couple of weeks ago I was driving on the outer ring road, on the stretch between the Wetherby Road and the A64. There was a hearse (with a coffin and flowers in it, and so clearly en route to a funeral), which I was following a safe distance behind. A 30-something woman in a Golf, who was on her mobile phone, came up behind me and aggressively tailgated me through the next roundabout. She then overtook both of us, forcing both the hearse and I to brake hard to allow her past in time to avoid hitting a Coastliner bus coming on the opposite carriageway. She was on the phone throughout the entire manoeuvre.
Do Coast-liner buses go down the outer ring-road?

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BaaB says...
7:30pm Sat 2 Feb 13

doltare wrote:
These are the sort of idiots who parents shop in supermarkets! no idea how to communicate with people or show respect. They need teaching respect.
I would be very interested to know where you do your shopping??

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akaroa says...
11:20pm Sat 2 Feb 13

I saw snow ballers smash the passenger window of a car stopped at a pedestrian crossing in Bootham. The snow ball had a rock in the center. Not at all nice.

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Garrowby Turnoff says...
12:45am Sun 3 Feb 13

This story has been pretty much debunked as press ****...

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anistasia says...
4:59am Sun 3 Feb 13

Name and shame them show their photos in the paper.what happened to the court listings it was interesting to see if you knew anyone.

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akaroa says...
10:18am Sun 3 Feb 13

Last year i saw yobs smash a window with a snowball at the italian cafe in Low Petergate, harmless fun, pure vandalism

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baldiebiker says...
10:33am Sun 3 Feb 13

I think I'll have to put extra money aside for my funeral for an armed convoy, a couple of 50mm heavy machine guns should do the trick, although I think my friends would see kids throwing snowballs for what it is, kids throwing snowballs and they did say sorry.

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twoleftfeet says...
11:36am Sun 3 Feb 13

eurosteve wrote:
alan_music says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is


Idiot!



ok so you think York is comparable to these cities ?? whos the idiot now

Acomb / Dringhouses / Foxwood / Chapelfields /Holgate Rd /Clifton / Bootham / Bell Farm /Heworth / Tang Hall /South Bank just to point out a large % of this city i wouldnt want to walk around in never mind live.

Too many people in York think its some kind of oasis where crime doesnt exist - i have seen the reality .
You pompous chump. You are saying that half of the City of York is a 'no go' area.

You obviously live in a mansion and don't get out very often. A few of these areas may have problems but that is the case with all cities.

If you don't like the City move somewhere else!

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Sillybillies says...
11:52am Sun 3 Feb 13

LackOfIntegrity says...
11:29am Sat 2 Feb 13

This article is littered with what I shall diplomatically call "mistakes":.........
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I prefer to believe the original report from a source prepared to reveal his real name and even a allow a photo to be printed, than an anonymous poster who might have a vested interest in playing the incident down.

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Jeff_li says...
11:59am Sun 3 Feb 13

With his ability to warp and embellish the truth it's amazing that Mr Bean's journalistic skills haven't been snapped up by other gutter press newspapers like The Sun or Daily Mail!

No wonder the sales of this newspaper are dwindling.

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TerryYork says...
12:01pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Hope the Press follow this up. We would like names.

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Murphy_the_Spangle says...
12:51pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Great reporting, York Press! It hasn't snowed in York since 26/01/2013! Why does it take a week to write this drivel?

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heworth.28 says...
1:11pm Sun 3 Feb 13

eurosteve wrote:
alan_music says... 11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13 euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is Idiot! ok so you think York is comparable to these cities ?? whos the idiot now Acomb / Dringhouses / Foxwood / Chapelfields /Holgate Rd /Clifton / Bootham / Bell Farm /Heworth / Tang Hall /South Bank just to point out a large % of this city i wouldnt want to walk around in never mind live. Too many people in York think its some kind of oasis where crime doesnt exist - i have seen the reality .
You wouldn't want to walk around Heworth!? What are you afraid of, someone twitching their curtains in an agressive manner when you walk past? Having to cross the road to avoid a crowd of gossipping pensioners? Though I suppose the house prices round most of it are fairly terrifying.

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markymmark says...
2:02pm Sun 3 Feb 13

They were a few snowballs for goodness sake - This story reads like the charge of the Light Brigade !.

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Buzz Light-year says...
2:08pm Sun 3 Feb 13

So, respect.

As has been said already the issue here is a lack of respect.
I hope this lack of respect has come about through ignorance - perhaps the older role models in their lives haven't taught them to respect the dead.
We have a lower mortality rate nowadays so maybe these kids haven't had anyone close to them die and haven't experienced everything that comes with that, the emotion, the solemnity and respect of a dignified send-off.

I hope.
If they have been taught and have chosen to disregard then that is different and they need to shown how wrong that is pretty sharpish.

I won't hold my breath tho - who's going to show 'em?
Just look at the comments here. People falling over themselves to call each other idiots.

Respect, eh?

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Rowntree Baby says...
2:19pm Sun 3 Feb 13

There's a general lack of respect - young ones think they're untouchable and with no discipline allowable, it leads to this sort of behaviour. My Dads funeral was last week, and when the cortege set off from traffic lights, at least 6 foreign students decided to run across the road into the path of the hearse and the closely following vehicles. Though all braked safely, the students just stood and laughed - they thought it was hilarious.... disgusting behaviour at such a sad time for the family.

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michaeljohnrogan says...
4:07pm Sun 3 Feb 13

When will that word RESPECT? be brought back into the.English language,and taught both by parents, schools,and politicians.
Those louts need to be publically shamed.

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anistasia says...
6:43pm Sun 3 Feb 13

markymmark wrote:
They were a few snowballs for goodness sake - This story reads like the charge of the Light Brigade !.
It's not the point only snow balls if you had a funeral to go to would you not bother.kids have no respect now and they know nothing happens to them police warning after warning.at this time of grief the family can do without extra grief the persons last journy.

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Sillybillies says...
7:16pm Sun 3 Feb 13

markymmark says...
2:02pm Sun 3 Feb 13
They were a few snowballs for goodness sake - This story reads like the charge of the Light Brigade !.

That's precisely the attitude that encourages this sort of diabolical behaviour, and the situation is not helped by being let down by a limp wristed apology for a police force which is so poorly led at the present time.

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TERRIER3 says...
8:05pm Sun 3 Feb 13

eurosteve wrote:
alan_music says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is


Idiot!



ok so you think York is comparable to these cities ?? whos the idiot now

Acomb / Dringhouses / Foxwood / Chapelfields /Holgate Rd /Clifton / Bootham / Bell Farm /Heworth / Tang Hall /South Bank just to point out a large % of this city i wouldnt want to walk around in never mind live.

Too many people in York think its some kind of oasis where crime doesnt exist - i have seen the reality .
believe me mate yorks estates are like monte carlo compared to some other towns and citys, i used to be a delivery driver in Huddersfield and some of the estates there are are far worse than yorks, people on one particular estate had bars across there windows, they would have metal doors in front of there normal front doors, burnt out cars on the side of the road, people openly dealing drugs on street corners, shootings have happened, its was one scary place even delivering in the daytime, so god knows how it was when the sun went down, and that was just one estate out of around 9/10 in the Huddersfield area, Arriva buses stopped running services around 6 years ago due to drivers been attacked or robbed at gunpoint, First still run there but many times buses are followed by police cars, believe me tang hall is nothing in comparison, york may have problem areas but its the best place ive ever lived

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YSTClinguist says...
11:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

TERRIER3 wrote:
eurosteve wrote:
alan_music says...
11:49am Sat 2 Feb 13

euro steve thats the biggest pile of **** i have ever heard York is a fantastic place, go live in Manchester London or Newcastle then tell me how bad York is


Idiot!



ok so you think York is comparable to these cities ?? whos the idiot now

Acomb / Dringhouses / Foxwood / Chapelfields /Holgate Rd /Clifton / Bootham / Bell Farm /Heworth / Tang Hall /South Bank just to point out a large % of this city i wouldnt want to walk around in never mind live.

Too many people in York think its some kind of oasis where crime doesnt exist - i have seen the reality .
believe me mate yorks estates are like monte carlo compared to some other towns and citys, i used to be a delivery driver in Huddersfield and some of the estates there are are far worse than yorks, people on one particular estate had bars across there windows, they would have metal doors in front of there normal front doors, burnt out cars on the side of the road, people openly dealing drugs on street corners, shootings have happened, its was one scary place even delivering in the daytime, so god knows how it was when the sun went down, and that was just one estate out of around 9/10 in the Huddersfield area, Arriva buses stopped running services around 6 years ago due to drivers been attacked or robbed at gunpoint, First still run there but many times buses are followed by police cars, believe me tang hall is nothing in comparison, york may have problem areas but its the best place ive ever lived
York is simply put, "a safe place to bring kids up."

It does have sporadic bursts of criminality and social problems, but it's way behind the other cities. If parents stopped their kids hanging out on street corners, allowed them and their friends to have 'safe' spaces at their homes, and generally wiped out the culture of 'education is uncool' we'd go a long way towards eliminating what little problems we have. Until the welfare changes in April that is, when I expect a crime wave to sweep over York.

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elliehick says...
9:56am Mon 4 Feb 13

Absolutely disgusting and a COMPLETE lack of respect.

Also, York is no where near as bad as some parts of the country!

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SpingloSponglo says...
1:33pm Tue 5 Feb 13

Jo_ wrote:
I got attacked by a bunch of youths on Acomb green. They were throwing snowballs at passing cars and as I walked past with my partner they shouted "let's get these people". They ran up to us and began throwing snowballs. They hit me in my face several times. My partner told them they might cause an accident and next thing we know they surrounded us, maybe 6 feet away from us, and began swearing and threatening us. I called the police who said they were too busy. Eventually (after about 5 minutes) the youths ran off, but they came back later and carried on throwing snowballs at passing cars.

When I got home I was shaking and crying. My sympathies go out to the poor mourners who had to undergo their ordeal.
Undoubtedly the same group of scummy turds who terrorise the Green on a daily basis. The police know who these kids are, they know who their families are, they know where they live. They do absolutely nothing to deter them. They come back day in day out. The police are absolutely useless.

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TERRIER3 says...
6:36pm Tue 5 Feb 13

SpingloSponglo wrote:
Jo_ wrote:
I got attacked by a bunch of youths on Acomb green. They were throwing snowballs at passing cars and as I walked past with my partner they shouted "let's get these people". They ran up to us and began throwing snowballs. They hit me in my face several times. My partner told them they might cause an accident and next thing we know they surrounded us, maybe 6 feet away from us, and began swearing and threatening us. I called the police who said they were too busy. Eventually (after about 5 minutes) the youths ran off, but they came back later and carried on throwing snowballs at passing cars.

When I got home I was shaking and crying. My sympathies go out to the poor mourners who had to undergo their ordeal.
Undoubtedly the same group of scummy turds who terrorise the Green on a daily basis. The police know who these kids are, they know who their families are, they know where they live. They do absolutely nothing to deter them. They come back day in day out. The police are absolutely useless.
actually its society thats useless, in the old days the police would have given them a thick ear, and so would the parents, but now due to the pc brigade getting there own way nobody can touch them including the police, and im afraid things will only get worse, the sad thing is its only a tiny minority that cause the problems, personally i think they should be wiped off the face of the earth, they are a threat to society and there is no place for the vermin

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