Bus changes forum for city passengers (From York Press)

I've long since given up hope of any meaningful consultations ever taking place with regard to York buses, but it's a shame bus users such as me who'll be at work are effectively excluded from these proceedings.

No 13 bus service stops early evening from York, Not all of the Coastliner buses come into the village now.
City of York Council, you do have approx 2000 houses in Copmanthorpe, maybe you might wish to forget about us come Council Tax renewal!
And the Timetable for the number 13 bus is still incorrect displayed at the Stonebow .

Woops!
And the Timetable for the number 13 bus is still incorrectly displayed at the Stonebow.

What do you expect when public transport is run for private profit ? It's like everything else, you get what you pay for. We want a low tax economy and the right to spend our money as we see fit. Fine if you're well off but not so hot for those who might need decent public transport, which oddly enough most people do at some time or other.

Surely rather than having a seperate evening service to copmanthorpe it'd be simpler to give transdev subsidy to extend some 844 services round the village.

Evening services along Huntington Road simply beggars belief: we have the 5, which runs hourly, and the 13, again hourly; so you might be reading this thinking "Well they would space out the buses so there's 30 minutes between services on the stretch of road between Sessions and Hayleys Terrace"... but oh no, instead both buses are sent so they literally run one behind the other (it's unusual if you get a car between them) along Huntington Road and then not another bus, or should I say two buses, for an hour... and it's the same in the other direction too.

Anyway, the new number 12 timetable is out with an extra service from Monks Cross... not TO monks cross, but FROM it. The bus leaves at 6.15pm but oddly there is no outward working to provide the bus and driver for it! So this means a completely empty bus is either going from Elmfield Avenue or even the James Street depot just for one journey. How inefficient an operation can you get? surely you run the bus in service instead of terminating at Elmfield Avenue and send it in service to Monks Cross - if as little as 1 person stays on beyond Elmfield then it is more profitable than the current joke that has been set up; and even if the bus is empty beyond Elmfield it's not as if it's any worse than operating an empty bus out of service to monks cross is it?!
... And then Firstgroup wonders why their profits are down and they have to sell operations!

I seriously think First in York and West Yorkshire is run by people who have been hit on the head with a giant cartoon anvil and have no cognative powers anymore....

Pointless forum again. What happened following the "forum" / travel analysis held in Parliament St a year or so ago. NOTHING. 13 still running back to York from Copmanthorpe on an evening as "not in service" when customers are there stood at the stop wanting to travel to Blossom St - exactly where it passes . Also no integration of times between First York and Coastliner - both run within minutes of each other. As for Coastliner, there busses seem to get lonely and like to run in convoy !!!

The other issues with just having the Coastliner service on an evening, is this service does not enter into Merchant Way and Flaxman croft. There are bus stops on this route for the number 13.
I am not thinking of myself when I say this, but how can this be a better service when you have pensioners and people with walking difficulties having to walk over half a mile up hill passing redundant bus stops for a Coastliner bus from Top Lane. (And the same in reverse to come home)?
I am sure more people would use the number 13 service if we had a reliable extended service. (Like we had before)
If City of York Council want people to use public transport / cycle / use their cars less, then for God sake give us a public transportation system that is viable to all.

While I am having a good whinge: I cannot believe the number 13 service has been changed from Copmanthorpe to Haxby. The previous route to Monks cross was a far better service. Anyone living in Copmanthorpe could commute / shop at monks cross. Given the option when its lashing it down with rain, would you wait for a number 13 or walk to get the Coastliner to then change buses to get to Monks cross? Maybe drive to the Park and Ride? No, I would get into my car and drive there or maybe go to Leeds to avoid the congestion.
Another good idea to strip more cash from York’s economy.