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  • ""Over the top response - it's only the individual affected who can effect change. Most of them can't change, it's hardwired in to them to be what they are, the best we can do is to recreate something like the workhouse and give them food, education and work and keep them from drink, drugs and crime." says Bob the builder.

    A wondrously snotty avuncular look at society from a position of assumed moral superiority, 'B the B'.

    You say "most of them can't change". Ask yourself how 'most of them' arrived on the street in the first place. Were they born there, the sons and daughters of vagrants and sturdy beggars? Or are you assuming that for many (and thus my original point,) it was a 'lifestyle choice' to live the life of danger, adventure and excitement close to the edge, or indeed the pavement, essentially because it's a cheap way of skiving off society? Would you make this 'lifestyle choice' (In Britain, in the winter!)? Who do you think would?
    Perhaps from your position on high you cannot discern that many, if not most, arrived on the pavements by no fault or indeed choice of their own.
    I don't consider myself to be quite as high as your good self such that I can mete out moral judgments on what people ought to do if their lives fall apart ; t either through reasons of crumbling family life or, more importantly, for reasons of an inability to work due to ill-health or due to a job suddenly ceasing to exist.
    This therefore could be a 'lifestyle decision' not made by the individual but by circumstance.
    However, from your vaunted position, it probably won't affect your lifestyle choices, B the B, except when you have to arduously steer a wide path around these street-people as they annoyingly get in your way whilst you are on your good night out on the town.
    So sweep 'em all up and shove 'em in a container somewhere out of your high sight-line, eh? And feel morally superior for being able to suggest it.
    Never fall on hard times, B the B. People quite obviously better than you have, and it can come as a great shock."
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New drive to take rough sleepers off York's streets

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EFFORTS to fight homelessness in York are to be stepped up, to try to prevent people slipping into a dangerous lifestyle.

Rough sleeping in York is less of a problem than in many other cities, but it is vital that new rough sleepers are helped off the streets as quickly as possible, council leaders said.

They were speaking as it was announced that the Archbishop of York will next week launch the city's response to a national project aimed at tackling rough sleeping.

Dr John Sentamu, who chaired the city’s Fairness Commission report earlier this year, will unveil the scheme – developed through the Salvation Army, the Peasholme Charity, the Arc Light centre, City of York Council and other bodies – on Monday.

It will outline how York organisations will play a part in the No Second Night Out initiative, designed to ensure new rough sleepers are identified and helped off the streets as soon as possible to avoid them drifting into a dangerous homeless lifestyle. It will also encourage residents to report instances of rough-sleeping, and provide places of safety and emergency accommodation.

The council said rough-sleeping levels in York were “relatively low” but had increased over the last year.

Coun Tracey Simpson-Laing, the authority’s cabinet member for health, housing and adult social services, said: “Rough sleepers need support and advice to make the best decision for their health, wellbeing and security, and with reduced funding we need to pool our resources with partner agencies and invite the public to play their part.”

Dave Knowles, the Peasholme Charity’s chief executive, who chairs York’s No Second Night Out working group, said: “We are delighted the Archbishop has agreed to launch this new initiative as it is important we continue to work to reduce rough-sleeping in York, even more so at a time of economic pressures and high demand for housing.”

Anybody who is concerned about a rough sleeper they have seen, especially outside York city centre, can phone the StreetLink helpline on 0300 500 0914 or log on to so they can be connected to Salvation Army support services.

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