Gunpowder Plod organisers to pay for Knavesmire clear-up

First published in News

THE organisation behind York’s Gunpowder Plod event has confirmed it will pay for the clear-up of the mess left behind on Knavesmire.

Green councillor Andy D’Agorne said earlier this week that cranes used to remove temporary fencing following the Guy Fawkes fireworks event had churned up the soft ground and made big holes in the Sustrans cycle track.

He said emergency repairs had been carried out by City of York Council to fill the dangerous holes in the cycle track, but some of the rutted grass still remained. He said he would press the authority to make sure the event organisers, Rat Race Adventure Sports, paid for the repairs and restoration work.

Now Rate Race managing director Jim Mee has reiterated that, as soon as the damage to the cycle path was discovered, the firm had offered to complete the minor reinstatement works and cover the cost in full.

“Because City of York Council maintains the cycle path, the council carried out the repair work, but the cost will be covered by Rat Race,” said a spokeswoman.

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9:35am Wed 12 Dec 12

Jazzper says...

Boring...boring !!
Boring...boring !! Jazzper
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9:40am Wed 12 Dec 12

M.Lucas says...

From the article: "Now Rate Race managing director Jim Mee has reiterated that, as soon as the damage to the cycle path was discovered, the firm had offered to complete the minor reinstatement works and cover the cost in full."

So they 'offered'? It wasn't in any agreement they signed with the Council that clean up/damage to the area must be paid for? I hope this is just Mr Mee trying to squeeze a bit of positivity out rather than being wholly true.

If the Council agreed to such a massive event for NO RENT and with NO PENALTY COST for damage then we really need to know who agreed to such a ridiculous & one-sided agreement so she/he can be held responsible.

The Council can't be relying on the 'goodwill' (or in this case shame) of a company to reimburse the council.

If Mr Mee claim of him 'offering' to pay is not wholly true then the Council should say so and blast Mr Mee for the attempt at misleading the people of York for a bit of positive headlines.
From the article: "Now Rate Race managing director Jim Mee has reiterated that, as soon as the damage to the cycle path was discovered, the firm had offered to complete the minor reinstatement works and cover the cost in full." So they 'offered'? It wasn't in any agreement they signed with the Council that clean up/damage to the area must be paid for? I hope this is just Mr Mee trying to squeeze a bit of positivity out rather than being wholly true. If the Council agreed to such a massive event for NO RENT and with NO PENALTY COST for damage then we really need to know who agreed to such a ridiculous & one-sided agreement so she/he can be held responsible. The Council can't be relying on the 'goodwill' (or in this case shame) of a company to reimburse the council. If Mr Mee claim of him 'offering' to pay is not wholly true then the Council should say so and blast Mr Mee for the attempt at misleading the people of York for a bit of positive headlines. M.Lucas
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10:04am Wed 12 Dec 12

CHISSY1 says...

"The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."
"The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want." CHISSY1
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10:53am Wed 12 Dec 12

Big Bad Wolf says...

CHISSY1 wrote:
"The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."
The issue was that CofY council allowed the event to take place without a bond being in place or without any proof that Rat Race had any insurance to repair damage to public property.
[quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: "The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."[/p][/quote]The issue was that CofY council allowed the event to take place without a bond being in place or without any proof that Rat Race had any insurance to repair damage to public property. Big Bad Wolf
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11:25am Wed 12 Dec 12

greenmonkey says...

No mention in his 'offer' of the cost of repairing the grass in addition to the track. Since CYC staff have been doing the repair work to both, I trust that the council will be billing the company for the staff time involved, not just the price of the materials used?
No mention in his 'offer' of the cost of repairing the grass in addition to the track. Since CYC staff have been doing the repair work to both, I trust that the council will be billing the company for the staff time involved, not just the price of the materials used? greenmonkey
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12:10pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Stevie D says...

WayneCarr wrote:
Mr Mee needs all the positive publicity he can get. I just hope if he attempts this stunt again that people boycott in their thousands. York people please remember this come November next year.”

Gives a whole new meaning to "Remember remember, the fifth of November, treason and Gunpowder Plod"
[quote][bold]WayneCarr[/bold] wrote: Mr Mee needs all the positive publicity he can get. I just hope if he attempts this stunt again that people boycott in their thousands. York people please remember this come November next year.”[/quote] Gives a whole new meaning to "Remember remember, the fifth of November, treason and Gunpowder Plod" Stevie D
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12:46pm Wed 12 Dec 12

roskoboskovic says...

you would have to presume, surely, that they won t be allowed to run it next year,mind you,this is ycc.
you would have to presume, surely, that they won t be allowed to run it next year,mind you,this is ycc. roskoboskovic
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4:35pm Wed 12 Dec 12

bob the builder says...

Big Bad Wolf wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote:
"The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."
The issue was that CofY council allowed the event to take place without a bond being in place or without any proof that Rat Race had any insurance to repair damage to public property.
Precisely, moreover why did they get the site for 'free'? It's seems highly irregular at face value and should perhaps be scrutinised in the public domain.
[quote][p][bold]Big Bad Wolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: "The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."[/p][/quote]The issue was that CofY council allowed the event to take place without a bond being in place or without any proof that Rat Race had any insurance to repair damage to public property.[/p][/quote]Precisely, moreover why did they get the site for 'free'? It's seems highly irregular at face value and should perhaps be scrutinised in the public domain. bob the builder
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7:22pm Wed 12 Dec 12

BigJon says...

greenmonkey wrote:
No mention in his 'offer' of the cost of repairing the grass in addition to the track. Since CYC staff have been doing the repair work to both, I trust that the council will be billing the company for the staff time involved, not just the price of the materials used?
You noticed this as well.... The headline says that Rat Race are going to pay for the Knavesmire clear-up but the quote from Rat Race's director only mentions paying for the repairs to the cycle track, not a complete clear-up of their mess.
[quote][p][bold]greenmonkey[/bold] wrote: No mention in his 'offer' of the cost of repairing the grass in addition to the track. Since CYC staff have been doing the repair work to both, I trust that the council will be billing the company for the staff time involved, not just the price of the materials used?[/p][/quote]You noticed this as well.... The headline says that Rat Race are going to pay for the Knavesmire clear-up but the quote from Rat Race's director only mentions paying for the repairs to the cycle track, not a complete clear-up of their mess. BigJon
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7:33pm Wed 12 Dec 12

Buzz Light-year says...

bob the builder wrote:
Big Bad Wolf wrote:
CHISSY1 wrote: "The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."
The issue was that CofY council allowed the event to take place without a bond being in place or without any proof that Rat Race had any insurance to repair damage to public property.
Precisely, moreover why did they get the site for 'free'? It's seems highly irregular at face value and should perhaps be scrutinised in the public domain.
The article that wasn't published in the online Press only the paper version said that Rat Race were given the site rent free "to ensure a successful and viable event" for future years, according to Sonja Crisp.

Ooops!
[quote][p][bold]bob the builder[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Bad Wolf[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CHISSY1[/bold] wrote: "The first sentence explains every thing,what more do people want."[/p][/quote]The issue was that CofY council allowed the event to take place without a bond being in place or without any proof that Rat Race had any insurance to repair damage to public property.[/p][/quote]Precisely, moreover why did they get the site for 'free'? It's seems highly irregular at face value and should perhaps be scrutinised in the public domain.[/p][/quote]The article that wasn't published in the online Press only the paper version said that Rat Race were given the site rent free "to ensure a successful and viable event" for future years, according to Sonja Crisp. Ooops! Buzz Light-year
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1:21am Thu 13 Dec 12

eeoodares says...

Has everyone got short memories? I remember when small events were held across the city raising money for charities and clubs. People complained that the Council never ran a Guy Fawkes event, then they did and it cost thousands of pounds of tax payers money, I remember hundreds of people booing in Georges Field.

They then let a company use some land that was not been otherwise used for an event. It was massive, it was massively attended and did not meet expectations but cost the tax payer nothing.

So what we need is an event to bring business into the city, entertain the locals, celebrate a local terrorist, set fire to thousands of pounds of gunpowder, staff the event, hope that the security and people do not damage the grass after months of rain.

When some grass and a path was damaged the organisers have volunteered to meet the cost and people are still moaning.

Good people of York, stop moaning and tell us what you want, who should pay!
Has everyone got short memories? I remember when small events were held across the city raising money for charities and clubs. People complained that the Council never ran a Guy Fawkes event, then they did and it cost thousands of pounds of tax payers money, I remember hundreds of people booing in Georges Field. They then let a company use some land that was not been otherwise used for an event. It was massive, it was massively attended and did not meet expectations but cost the tax payer nothing. So what we need is an event to bring business into the city, entertain the locals, celebrate a local terrorist, set fire to thousands of pounds of gunpowder, staff the event, hope that the security and people do not damage the grass after months of rain. When some grass and a path was damaged the organisers have volunteered to meet the cost and people are still moaning. Good people of York, stop moaning and tell us what you want, who should pay! eeoodares
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9:27am Thu 13 Dec 12

Jiminy Cricket says...

WayneCarr wrote:
It was not massive at all. Many people missed the fireworks due to the shambolic organising of this event. It was a disgrace. If you pay good money, you expect something good in return. The people of York want a quality organised event, not some sham laden with false promises. These posts are not people moaning...they expect their hard earned money being used wisely in the form of Council Tax.
I agree, the plod event was not massive. The fireworks were billed as the biggest York had ever seen - absolute tosh - the display was mostly boring. The evidence is available for all to see on YouTube. You could also check out the video for Kaboom on YouTube, now that was a great display
[quote][p][bold]WayneCarr[/bold] wrote: It was not massive at all. Many people missed the fireworks due to the shambolic organising of this event. It was a disgrace. If you pay good money, you expect something good in return. The people of York want a quality organised event, not some sham laden with false promises. These posts are not people moaning...they expect their hard earned money being used wisely in the form of Council Tax.[/p][/quote]I agree, the plod event was not massive. The fireworks were billed as the biggest York had ever seen - absolute tosh - the display was mostly boring. The evidence is available for all to see on YouTube. You could also check out the video for Kaboom on YouTube, now that was a great display Jiminy Cricket
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10:08am Thu 13 Dec 12

eeoodares says...

WayneCarr wrote:
It was not massive at all. Many people missed the fireworks due to the shambolic organising of this event. It was a disgrace. If you pay good money, you expect something good in return. The people of York want a quality organised event, not some sham laden with false promises. These posts are not people moaning...they expect their hard earned money being used wisely in the form of Council Tax.
So your point is you would like the council to set fire to your council tax money by running a firework display?

That is just silly.
[quote][p][bold]WayneCarr[/bold] wrote: It was not massive at all. Many people missed the fireworks due to the shambolic organising of this event. It was a disgrace. If you pay good money, you expect something good in return. The people of York want a quality organised event, not some sham laden with false promises. These posts are not people moaning...they expect their hard earned money being used wisely in the form of Council Tax.[/p][/quote]So your point is you would like the council to set fire to your council tax money by running a firework display? That is just silly. eeoodares
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