Roundabout delay at accident blackspot

PLANS to create a new roundabout at an accident blackspot between Selby and York have been put back until the New Year, writes Dan Bean.

North Yorkshire County Council pledged to improve the junction of the A19 and the A63 north of Selby by building a three-lane roundabout in place of the current staggered junctions earlier this year, with plans due to start this month.

With the new layout, two lanes will filter from the A63 and three from the A19 in both directions, in an effort to slow down motorists and improve road safety, following a number of serious accidents in the area. The original proposal was first mooted by the council in 2007.

Richard Marr, area manager for highways in Selby, said: “There were a few issues finalising the decision and some land owner issues. I’m told it’s going out to tender as we speak. The current plan I heard last week was expected for construction to start shortly after Christmas, but that depends on who wins it, whether they can mobilise in time, and get men on from other jobs. There’s no fixed start date yet.”

Collisions in the area included one involving an elderly couple who had to be cut free from their vehicle in July. In May, a teenage moped rider had to be taken to hospital after an accident with a car at the junction.

A study by NYCC showed more than 17,200 vehicles used the A19 on an average weekday, with up to 750 vehicles an hour in the morning rush hour and 901 heading towards Selby at about 4pm. The study showed the A63 was also well used, with more than 7,400 vehicles travelling on the road in the same 24-hour period, and peaks of 444 vehicles per hour in the 8am rush.

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10:00am Mon 19 Nov 12

charliewalker says...

Don't forget the smash on the junction that left a car written off on Friday just gone!
Don't forget the smash on the junction that left a car written off on Friday just gone! charliewalker
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10:25am Mon 19 Nov 12

Wrangle says...

How about delay it forever rather than creating something to cause yet more queuing. Just make it no right turn out of the A63 onto the A19 and make people go to the roundabout that's already there 50 yards down the road. It'd also help if people used their eyes and didn't turn out when there is a car coming, quite simple really.
How about delay it forever rather than creating something to cause yet more queuing. Just make it no right turn out of the A63 onto the A19 and make people go to the roundabout that's already there 50 yards down the road. It'd also help if people used their eyes and didn't turn out when there is a car coming, quite simple really. Wrangle
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10:34am Mon 19 Nov 12

old_geezer says...

The A63 should have been diverted to the roundabout at the start of the bypass when it was being built. Less than a kilometre, all the plant already on site ... why wasn't that included?
The A63 should have been diverted to the roundabout at the start of the bypass when it was being built. Less than a kilometre, all the plant already on site ... why wasn't that included? old_geezer
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10:35am Mon 19 Nov 12

again says...

Wrangle wrote:
How about delay it forever rather than creating something to cause yet more queuing. Just make it no right turn out of the A63 onto the A19 and make people go to the roundabout that's already there 50 yards down the road. It'd also help if people used their eyes and didn't turn out when there is a car coming, quite simple really.
It's ridiculous to have a 60 mph speed limit at that point. Clearly these accidents are caused by excessive speed.

If you made people go left to the roundabout already there, they would travel a lot further, adding more traffic and simply increase the queue at the present roundabout, what's more they would have to do a 360 on it!
[quote][p][bold]Wrangle[/bold] wrote: How about delay it forever rather than creating something to cause yet more queuing. Just make it no right turn out of the A63 onto the A19 and make people go to the roundabout that's already there 50 yards down the road. It'd also help if people used their eyes and didn't turn out when there is a car coming, quite simple really.[/p][/quote]It's ridiculous to have a 60 mph speed limit at that point. Clearly these accidents are caused by excessive speed. If you made people go left to the roundabout already there, they would travel a lot further, adding more traffic and simply increase the queue at the present roundabout, what's more they would have to do a 360 on it! again
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11:30am Mon 19 Nov 12

myselby says...

count me in Wrangle- but a simple solution will never do when NYCC can spend a fortune of our money plaving with big boys toys . KISS
count me in Wrangle- but a simple solution will never do when NYCC can spend a fortune of our money plaving with big boys toys . KISS myselby
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1:47pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Plans have been put back until the new year. Roughly when? Roundabout January? Roundabout Febuary? Roundabout March...?
Plans have been put back until the new year. Roughly when? Roundabout January? Roundabout Febuary? Roundabout March...? Ignatius Lumpopo
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3:51pm Mon 19 Nov 12

RisingDamp says...

Ignatius Lumpopo wrote:
Plans have been put back until the new year. Roughly when? Roundabout January? Roundabout Febuary? Roundabout March...?
Like the report said, they don't know until the contractors are in place. They just know it'll be after Christmas. Simples in a roundabout way...
[quote][p][bold]Ignatius Lumpopo[/bold] wrote: Plans have been put back until the new year. Roughly when? Roundabout January? Roundabout Febuary? Roundabout March...?[/p][/quote]Like the report said, they don't know until the contractors are in place. They just know it'll be after Christmas. Simples in a roundabout way... RisingDamp
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10:06pm Mon 19 Nov 12

AnotherPointofView says...

again wrote:
Wrangle wrote:
How about delay it forever rather than creating something to cause yet more queuing. Just make it no right turn out of the A63 onto the A19 and make people go to the roundabout that's already there 50 yards down the road. It'd also help if people used their eyes and didn't turn out when there is a car coming, quite simple really.
It's ridiculous to have a 60 mph speed limit at that point. Clearly these accidents are caused by excessive speed.

If you made people go left to the roundabout already there, they would travel a lot further, adding more traffic and simply increase the queue at the present roundabout, what's more they would have to do a 360 on it!
I disagree. Accidents aren't caused by speed at all. They are caused by drivers pulling out when it is not safe to do so.

Speed exacerbates the severity of the impact.

As old_geezer says, the A63 should be diverted to the roundabout to the south.
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wrangle[/bold] wrote: How about delay it forever rather than creating something to cause yet more queuing. Just make it no right turn out of the A63 onto the A19 and make people go to the roundabout that's already there 50 yards down the road. It'd also help if people used their eyes and didn't turn out when there is a car coming, quite simple really.[/p][/quote]It's ridiculous to have a 60 mph speed limit at that point. Clearly these accidents are caused by excessive speed. If you made people go left to the roundabout already there, they would travel a lot further, adding more traffic and simply increase the queue at the present roundabout, what's more they would have to do a 360 on it![/p][/quote]I disagree. Accidents aren't caused by speed at all. They are caused by drivers pulling out when it is not safe to do so. Speed exacerbates the severity of the impact. As old_geezer says, the A63 should be diverted to the roundabout to the south. AnotherPointofView
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9:28pm Wed 21 Nov 12

MrMoan says...

Aren't we all missing the point? Speed or not, people pulling out or not, the facts are that sooner or later someone will be killed on this piece of road. If they want to build a roundabout then fine, If it works, which I think it will. I'll be happy when its done and I can drive from Selby to York and back safe in the knowledge that some muppet isn't going to pull out on me or will be driving at 80mph towards me!!
Aren't we all missing the point? Speed or not, people pulling out or not, the facts are that sooner or later someone will be killed on this piece of road. If they want to build a roundabout then fine, If it works, which I think it will. I'll be happy when its done and I can drive from Selby to York and back safe in the knowledge that some muppet isn't going to pull out on me or will be driving at 80mph towards me!! MrMoan
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