What about trams on the railway?

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First published in Letters by

THE double-page feature about Christian Vassie’s views on trams in York was quite interesting (The Press, August 27).

I think trams would not work on the city streets, but would have worked on the new Park&Ride, just opened at Poppleton.

This new car park is adjacent to the railway line from York to Harrogate. If the council was interested in keeping traffic off the roads, it would have been an easy matter to run tramlines down the side of the existing rail track, right into York Station.

That would have kept the P&R buses off Boroughbridge Road, and all the road “improvements and widening that has just been undertaken would not have been required.

Whilst on the subject, the P&R at the designer centre is next to the River Ouse, so why not use water transport as part of the system?

Stuart Wilson, Vesper Drive, Acomb, York.

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12:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Stevie D says...

Fantasy land, I'm afraid.

If the trams were to terminate at York station, maybe a new platform 12, they are on the far side of the station and quite some way from the city centre. Buses, on the other hand, can run right into the centre. People who can't walk far are not going to be happy if they get a P&R tram that deposits them at the station and they then have to get another bus to get to the museum or theatre or wherever.

Using the river for public transport would be horrendous. Not counting the large number of days when the river is unusable because the water is too high, it would be slow and expensive compared to a bus, and the cost of building a new car park and landing stage alongside Naburn Lane would be very high.
Fantasy land, I'm afraid. If the trams were to terminate at York station, maybe a new platform 12, they are on the far side of the station and quite some way from the city centre. Buses, on the other hand, can run right into the centre. People who can't walk far are not going to be happy if they get a P&R tram that deposits them at the station and they then have to get another bus to get to the museum or theatre or wherever. Using the river for public transport would be horrendous. Not counting the large number of days when the river is unusable because the water is too high, it would be slow and expensive compared to a bus, and the cost of building a new car park and landing stage alongside Naburn Lane would be very high. Stevie D
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4:21pm Fri 29 Aug 14

old_geezer says...

Stevie D is spot on. Separate tramlines from Poppleton would have to cross several rail lines. A tram-train might be technically feasible, but financially, no way. To add to Stevie's valid points against using the Ouse, there's a river speed limit; unless using a hovercraft, far too slow!
Stevie D is spot on. Separate tramlines from Poppleton would have to cross several rail lines. A tram-train might be technically feasible, but financially, no way. To add to Stevie's valid points against using the Ouse, there's a river speed limit; unless using a hovercraft, far too slow! old_geezer
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5:25pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Pinza-C55 says...

old_geezer wrote:
Stevie D is spot on. Separate tramlines from Poppleton would have to cross several rail lines. A tram-train might be technically feasible, but financially, no way. To add to Stevie's valid points against using the Ouse, there's a river speed limit; unless using a hovercraft, far too slow!
Not to mention crossing Nether Poppleton lane, flyover or underpass at Clifton rail bridge to avoid the ECML and need to widen the road bridge at the Leeman Road P-Way sidings. It would be great in 00 gauge though!
[quote][p][bold]old_geezer[/bold] wrote: Stevie D is spot on. Separate tramlines from Poppleton would have to cross several rail lines. A tram-train might be technically feasible, but financially, no way. To add to Stevie's valid points against using the Ouse, there's a river speed limit; unless using a hovercraft, far too slow![/p][/quote]Not to mention crossing Nether Poppleton lane, flyover or underpass at Clifton rail bridge to avoid the ECML and need to widen the road bridge at the Leeman Road P-Way sidings. It would be great in 00 gauge though! Pinza-C55
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8:13pm Fri 29 Aug 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

And stop all the traffic to let the tram go by. (In addition to rail crossings) Got to be a winner for CoYC cycling and anti Co2 nut jobs!
And stop all the traffic to let the tram go by. (In addition to rail crossings) Got to be a winner for CoYC cycling and anti Co2 nut jobs! ColdAsChristmas
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6:03am Sun 31 Aug 14

ZachCohen says...

Several options were available. A tram from poppleton.
A tram from haxby...?

At the very least there is sufficient waste land along the back of british sugar site and the railway for a lane to be put in linking the a59 and water end. Busses could then have gone down Leeman road.
Several options were available. A tram from poppleton. A tram from haxby...? At the very least there is sufficient waste land along the back of british sugar site and the railway for a lane to be put in linking the a59 and water end. Busses could then have gone down Leeman road. ZachCohen
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