Ouse warnings

Ouse warnings

Ouse warnings

First published in Letters by

ALTHOUGH it may not be possible to stop every mindless idiot from jumping off a bridge, it is obviously important to continue to warn people of the dangers of rivers and alcohol and in trying to prevent more tragic accidents.

The York Rescue Boat is a welcome response and could helpfully be joined by another patrol boat in future.

Restrictions on riverside drinking areas (eg Kings Staith) are clearly needed. Lockable riverside access gates, closed at dusk and raised or railed bridge parapets could be helpful where appropriate.

However, but for the actions of police and helpful passers by this years river fatalities could have been much higher.

Alexander Ogilvy, Lindsey Avenue, Acomb, York.

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11:25pm Tue 29 Jul 14

/kev/null says...

I'm not sure the families of the recent river fatalities will appreciate your glib 'mindless idiots' quip.

I think some signage would be a worthwhile effort. If people genuinely don't appreciate the dangers of jumping in a river then maybe signs should be provided which give a brief explanation of the factors which will conspire to kill you if you jump in.
I'm not sure the families of the recent river fatalities will appreciate your glib 'mindless idiots' quip. I think some signage would be a worthwhile effort. If people genuinely don't appreciate the dangers of jumping in a river then maybe signs should be provided which give a brief explanation of the factors which will conspire to kill you if you jump in. /kev/null
  • Score: -2

3:13am Wed 30 Jul 14

Magicman! says...

/kev/null wrote:
I'm not sure the families of the recent river fatalities will appreciate your glib 'mindless idiots' quip.

I think some signage would be a worthwhile effort. If people genuinely don't appreciate the dangers of jumping in a river then maybe signs should be provided which give a brief explanation of the factors which will conspire to kill you if you jump in.
don't really think drunk people will be able to understand the principles of how 'conspiring factors' could cause death if they jump in the river - for one thing they'll probably be seeing three or four sets of words all bluured, and for another thing they'll probably not be able to stand up long enough to read such a sign before staggering into the river anyway.

you might think the 'mindless idiots' comment is insensitive, but the simple fact is it's accurate... too much alcohol impairs cognitive processes, and so those who are completely off their heads have less thought processes than a hampster. Excessive alcohol consumption can turn even the most intelligent of people into blabbering morons.
[quote][p][bold]/kev/null[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the families of the recent river fatalities will appreciate your glib 'mindless idiots' quip. I think some signage would be a worthwhile effort. If people genuinely don't appreciate the dangers of jumping in a river then maybe signs should be provided which give a brief explanation of the factors which will conspire to kill you if you jump in.[/p][/quote]don't really think drunk people will be able to understand the principles of how 'conspiring factors' could cause death if they jump in the river - for one thing they'll probably be seeing three or four sets of words all bluured, and for another thing they'll probably not be able to stand up long enough to read such a sign before staggering into the river anyway. you might think the 'mindless idiots' comment is insensitive, but the simple fact is it's accurate... too much alcohol impairs cognitive processes, and so those who are completely off their heads have less thought processes than a hampster. Excessive alcohol consumption can turn even the most intelligent of people into blabbering morons. Magicman!
  • Score: 2

8:09pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Maquis says...

This writer is the reason that life is getting less enjoyable for people in this country. Of the 10 people to die in the Ouse in the last 15 years, two were accidents, and two were suicides, the rest were people going in intentionally and unfortunately got into trouble. Some of these climbed fences to go in, so unless you want to have a 10 foot fence all the way down both banks, it would do nothing to stop them.

Alexander thinks that we should lock off the river and stop tens of thousands of people from enjoying a major part of the city either as a view or a destination.

Yes each one of these incidents were a tragedy but life is never 100% safe and cannot be made so.

What is needed are ways to get out if you jump in or fall in, as it is, there are preciously few ways to save yourself should you fall in as many of the sides are so high .
Some extra warning signs near the river would be useful but people will always do stupid things, it's human nature.
This writer is the reason that life is getting less enjoyable for people in this country. Of the 10 people to die in the Ouse in the last 15 years, two were accidents, and two were suicides, the rest were people going in intentionally and unfortunately got into trouble. Some of these climbed fences to go in, so unless you want to have a 10 foot fence all the way down both banks, it would do nothing to stop them. Alexander thinks that we should lock off the river and stop tens of thousands of people from enjoying a major part of the city either as a view or a destination. Yes each one of these incidents were a tragedy but life is never 100% safe and cannot be made so. What is needed are ways to get out if you jump in or fall in, as it is, there are preciously few ways to save yourself should you fall in as many of the sides are so high . Some extra warning signs near the river would be useful but people will always do stupid things, it's human nature. Maquis
  • Score: 2

9:32am Thu 31 Jul 14

old_geezer says...

/kev/null wrote:
I'm not sure the families of the recent river fatalities will appreciate your glib 'mindless idiots' quip.

I think some signage would be a worthwhile effort. If people genuinely don't appreciate the dangers of jumping in a river then maybe signs should be provided which give a brief explanation of the factors which will conspire to kill you if you jump in.
The writer made clear that "mindless idiots" applied to people jumping off bridges, though perhaps "foolish risk-takers" would have been better.

But most victims fell in, which is a different situation, so that comment wasn't aimed at them.
[quote][p][bold]/kev/null[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure the families of the recent river fatalities will appreciate your glib 'mindless idiots' quip. I think some signage would be a worthwhile effort. If people genuinely don't appreciate the dangers of jumping in a river then maybe signs should be provided which give a brief explanation of the factors which will conspire to kill you if you jump in.[/p][/quote]The writer made clear that "mindless idiots" applied to people jumping off bridges, though perhaps "foolish risk-takers" would have been better. But most victims fell in, which is a different situation, so that comment wasn't aimed at them. old_geezer
  • Score: 0

1:51pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Big Bad Wolf says...

Darwin's law I'm afraid.
Darwin's law I'm afraid. Big Bad Wolf
  • Score: -1

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