Thankless job

Thankless job

Thankless job

First published in Letters by

WITH reference to letters regarding the state of York’s streets, I have four staff who work from 5am till 9am on Saturday and Sunday morning clearing the mess from the night-time revellers, a task made difficult due to many pubs closing at 4am and us having to deal with people hampering our efforts as they stagger around at 5am.

Many of the pubs/clubs/fast-food establishments don’t/won’t make any attempt (except McDonalds) to clear mess left outside their premises.

I then have four members of staff working from 10.30am to 7pm to try and clear up after 50,000 plus people in the city centre, as well as looking after any events that are happening, keeping an eye on the market refuse, assisting the litter-bin man, etc. Four men to basically nursemaid 50,000 people who cannot perform the basic task of placing litter in a bin or in their pocket.

At around 6pm they have to clear the refuse from the market, but I will not have staff wandering around the city centre after 7pm as you cannot move for stag and hen parties.

All I ask is that you give my lads a bit of slack as they are trying to do a thankless, never-ending job.

PR Willey Burnholme Drive, Heworth, York.

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3:49pm Tue 22 Jul 14

gmsgop says...

Paul

I am so sad to see this- I am sure, quite sure that the hard working lads at the coal face are not the target of the many complaints. They work hard under difficult circumstances. They do a great job, all of them.

The difficulty is above where top management and labour councillors have chosen vanity projects and trips and fantastic pay rises for the chosen few.

I try and smile and thank the lads every time I see them- others do too but maybe more citizens can do the same - we appreciate you each and every one of you.

Paul nice you wrote in, hope you don't get into trouble from the dissenters not allowed Managment. Meanwhile James, why not resource these lads properly and forget more stupid spending & vanity.

Gwen Swinburn
Paul I am so sad to see this- I am sure, quite sure that the hard working lads at the coal face are not the target of the many complaints. They work hard under difficult circumstances. They do a great job, all of them. The difficulty is above where top management and labour councillors have chosen vanity projects and trips and fantastic pay rises for the chosen few. I try and smile and thank the lads every time I see them- others do too but maybe more citizens can do the same - we appreciate you each and every one of you. Paul nice you wrote in, hope you don't get into trouble from the dissenters not allowed Managment. Meanwhile James, why not resource these lads properly and forget more stupid spending & vanity. Gwen Swinburn gmsgop
  • Score: 0

5:25pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

The street cleaning team do a fantastic job.
However as to the root cause of the problem, who granted the licenses to these establishments to sell booze and food until 04.00?
The street cleaning team do a fantastic job. However as to the root cause of the problem, who granted the licenses to these establishments to sell booze and food until 04.00? Pinza-C55
  • Score: 26

6:35pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Maquis says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
The street cleaning team do a fantastic job.
However as to the root cause of the problem, who granted the licenses to these establishments to sell booze and food until 04.00?
These people do a good job. A job which is required because of these establishments. The fact that places are open late (and there are very few of them in York) does not make any difference.
These places also pay massively in tax both to the council and central government. Without these taxes, these people could not be employed and would not be needed.
You obviously have a problem with people enjoying themselves, maybe you should just lighten up a bit.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: The street cleaning team do a fantastic job. However as to the root cause of the problem, who granted the licenses to these establishments to sell booze and food until 04.00?[/p][/quote]These people do a good job. A job which is required because of these establishments. The fact that places are open late (and there are very few of them in York) does not make any difference. These places also pay massively in tax both to the council and central government. Without these taxes, these people could not be employed and would not be needed. You obviously have a problem with people enjoying themselves, maybe you should just lighten up a bit. Maquis
  • Score: -24

7:26pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable. Pinza-C55
  • Score: -6

7:30pm Tue 22 Jul 14

MadHaxMan says...

The street team are not the problem. Lack of further resources is only a part of the problem. The real core problem is the ever increasing number of people (sadly from my unscientific observations mostly under 40s) who simply do not give a to** about their surroundings and would not walk 3 feet to put rubbish in a bin, drunk or sober. Sadly, this is not just in the City. Last week a friend and I walked from Kirkham Abbey down the river to Howsham Bridge. Going through the first field below Kirkham Bridge, it was obvious that a lot of people had really enjoyed the recent good weather by picnicking. Obvious because there was litter absolutely everywhere - from burnt out disposable barbeques, bottles and cans to revolting toilet items. We could have picked sacks of it up had we had any with us! What logic is it that sends people out to a beautiful place, and they then set about ruining it?
A few years ago I stayed in the USA. In one of the Florida Counties we visited a local judge would sentence litter louts to pick up a certain number of sacks of rubbish in a day and then to stand at a particular point by the roadside next morning with the sacks. If they were not there when his clerk drove by on her way to the courthouse, they went to jail for a week. Of course in this country we could not do anything so practical - no doubt their human rights would be breached.
The street team are not the problem. Lack of further resources is only a part of the problem. The real core problem is the ever increasing number of people (sadly from my unscientific observations mostly under 40s) who simply do not give a to** about their surroundings and would not walk 3 feet to put rubbish in a bin, drunk or sober. Sadly, this is not just in the City. Last week a friend and I walked from Kirkham Abbey down the river to Howsham Bridge. Going through the first field below Kirkham Bridge, it was obvious that a lot of people had really enjoyed the recent good weather by picnicking. Obvious because there was litter absolutely everywhere - from burnt out disposable barbeques, bottles and cans to revolting toilet items. We could have picked sacks of it up had we had any with us! What logic is it that sends people out to a beautiful place, and they then set about ruining it? A few years ago I stayed in the USA. In one of the Florida Counties we visited a local judge would sentence litter louts to pick up a certain number of sacks of rubbish in a day and then to stand at a particular point by the roadside next morning with the sacks. If they were not there when his clerk drove by on her way to the courthouse, they went to jail for a week. Of course in this country we could not do anything so practical - no doubt their human rights would be breached. MadHaxMan
  • Score: 26

7:34pm Tue 22 Jul 14

matyork says...

Sorry but people are selfish and inconsiderate and often complain to those providing a service to them. These people have a job because you can't be bothered
. Not because you pay taxes
Sorry but people are selfish and inconsiderate and often complain to those providing a service to them. These people have a job because you can't be bothered . Not because you pay taxes matyork
  • Score: 16

8:01pm Tue 22 Jul 14

postie28 says...

it's a valid point about people being to lazy to place their rubbish in a bin. witnessed a city of York hackney carriage driver (plate number 52) throwing his banana skin out onto road this afternoon at the rear of jorvik café. there was a bin not 20 yards away from were he was parked up.
it's a valid point about people being to lazy to place their rubbish in a bin. witnessed a city of York hackney carriage driver (plate number 52) throwing his banana skin out onto road this afternoon at the rear of jorvik café. there was a bin not 20 yards away from were he was parked up. postie28
  • Score: 19

10:07pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Maquis says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall. Maquis
  • Score: -11

10:13pm Tue 22 Jul 14

inthesticks says...

How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free!
How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free! inthesticks
  • Score: 9

10:36pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 8

11:04pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Maquis says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen.
Bitterness is not becoming...
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming... Maquis
  • Score: -9

11:08pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ).
I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by.
Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful.
Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.
There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ). I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by. Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful. Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda. Older Sometimes Wiser
  • Score: 6

12:15am Wed 23 Jul 14

jay, york says...

Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this??? jay, york
  • Score: -28

12:17am Wed 23 Jul 14

Maquis says...

jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
[quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe? Maquis
  • Score: -10

12:19am Wed 23 Jul 14

jay, york says...

gmsgop wrote:
Paul I am so sad to see this- I am sure, quite sure that the hard working lads at the coal face are not the target of the many complaints. They work hard under difficult circumstances. They do a great job, all of them. The difficulty is above where top management and labour councillors have chosen vanity projects and trips and fantastic pay rises for the chosen few. I try and smile and thank the lads every time I see them- others do too but maybe more citizens can do the same - we appreciate you each and every one of you. Paul nice you wrote in, hope you don't get into trouble from the dissenters not allowed Managment. Meanwhile James, why not resource these lads properly and forget more stupid spending & vanity. Gwen Swinburn
These are the guys who do York proud. They take a pride in this fair city - unlike this useless labour council. every thanks to them in what must be very difficult circumstances.
[quote][p][bold]gmsgop[/bold] wrote: Paul I am so sad to see this- I am sure, quite sure that the hard working lads at the coal face are not the target of the many complaints. They work hard under difficult circumstances. They do a great job, all of them. The difficulty is above where top management and labour councillors have chosen vanity projects and trips and fantastic pay rises for the chosen few. I try and smile and thank the lads every time I see them- others do too but maybe more citizens can do the same - we appreciate you each and every one of you. Paul nice you wrote in, hope you don't get into trouble from the dissenters not allowed Managment. Meanwhile James, why not resource these lads properly and forget more stupid spending & vanity. Gwen Swinburn[/p][/quote]These are the guys who do York proud. They take a pride in this fair city - unlike this useless labour council. every thanks to them in what must be very difficult circumstances. jay, york
  • Score: -14

12:27am Wed 23 Jul 14

jay, york says...

Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer. jay, york
  • Score: -23

12:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

Maquis says...

jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
[quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot! Maquis
  • Score: 0

9:09am Wed 23 Jul 14

TheTruthHurts says...

Older Sometimes Wiser wrote:
There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ).
I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by.
Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful.
Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.
This is correct, I have carried litter around with me for ages sometimes in the city centre before coming across a bin. Not Justifying the people that do litter but it should be easier to get rid of. Most of the bins that are about look like they are a biohazard aswell, its amazing what a clean and a lick of paint will do.

I eat a few bananas (Insert Monkey/Ape joke here :-) and would never put the peel in the bin I will always find a hedge to chuck it under as they decompose very quickly and are not bad for the environment. Same for apple cores, orange peel etc
[quote][p][bold]Older Sometimes Wiser[/bold] wrote: There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ). I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by. Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful. Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.[/p][/quote]This is correct, I have carried litter around with me for ages sometimes in the city centre before coming across a bin. Not Justifying the people that do litter but it should be easier to get rid of. Most of the bins that are about look like they are a biohazard aswell, its amazing what a clean and a lick of paint will do. I eat a few bananas (Insert Monkey/Ape joke here :-) and would never put the peel in the bin I will always find a hedge to chuck it under as they decompose very quickly and are not bad for the environment. Same for apple cores, orange peel etc TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 1

9:21am Wed 23 Jul 14

The Great Buda says...

inthesticks wrote:
How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free!
Slavery was abolished in this country a long time ago. Long may that continue.
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free![/p][/quote]Slavery was abolished in this country a long time ago. Long may that continue. The Great Buda
  • Score: 1

9:21am Wed 23 Jul 14

The Great Buda says...

inthesticks wrote:
How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free!
Slavery was abolished in this country a long time ago. Long may that continue.
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free![/p][/quote]Slavery was abolished in this country a long time ago. Long may that continue. The Great Buda
  • Score: 2

10:55am Wed 23 Jul 14

Big Bad Wolf says...

The Great Buda wrote:
inthesticks wrote:
How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free!
Slavery was abolished in this country a long time ago. Long may that continue.
Along with common sense I fear......

I would be happy to see offenders helping the street team, and I am sure most of the city residents would be too.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: How about people on community service going out to help the team? I bet getting up before 5 won`t be something the little scroats will be used to. The team could be doubled I bet - for free![/p][/quote]Slavery was abolished in this country a long time ago. Long may that continue.[/p][/quote]Along with common sense I fear...... I would be happy to see offenders helping the street team, and I am sure most of the city residents would be too. Big Bad Wolf
  • Score: 6

11:25am Wed 23 Jul 14

York2000 says...

PR Willey - You and the team do a great job. York looks fantastic, never better. People who moan should look at the state of other towns and realise York is a paradise.

The Press have a Conservative agenda and have realised that filling the website with anti-council articles means more 'clicks' to the articles because a small group of people have hijacked the comments threads to argue and at times abuse each other. So the Press printed that letter just to satisfy that group. Whatever you think of the council, it's a shame this has happened to the city's main news website. But, the Press want it to happen because like I said, it means more visits to the articles, even if it is the same people commenting all day long.

I do not support the council on various issues that have come up, but I don't think the way the Press encourages the vitriol is good for the city.
PR Willey - You and the team do a great job. York looks fantastic, never better. People who moan should look at the state of other towns and realise York is a paradise. The Press have a Conservative agenda and have realised that filling the website with anti-council articles means more 'clicks' to the articles because a small group of people have hijacked the comments threads to argue and at times abuse each other. So the Press printed that letter just to satisfy that group. Whatever you think of the council, it's a shame this has happened to the city's main news website. But, the Press want it to happen because like I said, it means more visits to the articles, even if it is the same people commenting all day long. I do not support the council on various issues that have come up, but I don't think the way the Press encourages the vitriol is good for the city. York2000
  • Score: 5

1:40pm Wed 23 Jul 14

the original Homer says...

TheTruthHurts wrote:
Older Sometimes Wiser wrote:
There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ).
I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by.
Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful.
Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.
This is correct, I have carried litter around with me for ages sometimes in the city centre before coming across a bin. Not Justifying the people that do litter but it should be easier to get rid of. Most of the bins that are about look like they are a biohazard aswell, its amazing what a clean and a lick of paint will do.

I eat a few bananas (Insert Monkey/Ape joke here :-) and would never put the peel in the bin I will always find a hedge to chuck it under as they decompose very quickly and are not bad for the environment. Same for apple cores, orange peel etc
I understand your reasons for putting peel and cores under hedges but I would still consider that littering if the hedge was in a pubic place.

They should be put in the bin with everything else.
[quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Older Sometimes Wiser[/bold] wrote: There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ). I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by. Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful. Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.[/p][/quote]This is correct, I have carried litter around with me for ages sometimes in the city centre before coming across a bin. Not Justifying the people that do litter but it should be easier to get rid of. Most of the bins that are about look like they are a biohazard aswell, its amazing what a clean and a lick of paint will do. I eat a few bananas (Insert Monkey/Ape joke here :-) and would never put the peel in the bin I will always find a hedge to chuck it under as they decompose very quickly and are not bad for the environment. Same for apple cores, orange peel etc[/p][/quote]I understand your reasons for putting peel and cores under hedges but I would still consider that littering if the hedge was in a pubic place. They should be put in the bin with everything else. the original Homer
  • Score: -2

3:13pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

the original Homer wrote:
TheTruthHurts wrote:
Older Sometimes Wiser wrote:
There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ).
I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by.
Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful.
Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.
This is correct, I have carried litter around with me for ages sometimes in the city centre before coming across a bin. Not Justifying the people that do litter but it should be easier to get rid of. Most of the bins that are about look like they are a biohazard aswell, its amazing what a clean and a lick of paint will do.

I eat a few bananas (Insert Monkey/Ape joke here :-) and would never put the peel in the bin I will always find a hedge to chuck it under as they decompose very quickly and are not bad for the environment. Same for apple cores, orange peel etc
I understand your reasons for putting peel and cores under hedges but I would still consider that littering if the hedge was in a pubic place.

They should be put in the bin with everything else.
If it's in a "pubic place" any overgrowth should be trimmed regularly and the surrounding area cleaned every day. Dumping banana skins there would be a health hazard to yourself and everyone else.
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Older Sometimes Wiser[/bold] wrote: There are too few rubbish bins in the tourist center of York , and the existing ones need to be far more conspicuous , perhaps painted fluorescent orange or yellow ( which ever is more visible under variable lighting ). I doubt too whether the so called high tech bins are even recognized as such by visitors, and am always surprised that locations which " generate litter" like bus hubs and fast food areas ,seldom if ever have a bin close by. Why not encourage retail outlets and transport taxi & bus services to sponsor ( pay for) more waste bins together with appropriate advertising? This would answer the usual response of CYC that we cannot afford it! A bit of lateral thinking would be helpful. Sadly I am not optimistic as "listening and learning" are not common on the CYC agenda.[/p][/quote]This is correct, I have carried litter around with me for ages sometimes in the city centre before coming across a bin. Not Justifying the people that do litter but it should be easier to get rid of. Most of the bins that are about look like they are a biohazard aswell, its amazing what a clean and a lick of paint will do. I eat a few bananas (Insert Monkey/Ape joke here :-) and would never put the peel in the bin I will always find a hedge to chuck it under as they decompose very quickly and are not bad for the environment. Same for apple cores, orange peel etc[/p][/quote]I understand your reasons for putting peel and cores under hedges but I would still consider that littering if the hedge was in a pubic place. They should be put in the bin with everything else.[/p][/quote]If it's in a "pubic place" any overgrowth should be trimmed regularly and the surrounding area cleaned every day. Dumping banana skins there would be a health hazard to yourself and everyone else. Pinza-C55
  • Score: -2

4:26pm Wed 23 Jul 14

PlanetTea says...

Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-) PlanetTea
  • Score: 3

4:58pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Maquis says...

PlanetTea wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
Well I cant help being irresistible :)
[quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-)[/p][/quote]Well I cant help being irresistible :) Maquis
  • Score: 0

5:09pm Wed 23 Jul 14

PR Willey says...

Hello everybody, I just want to thank people who have put some positive comments forward regarding my team, myself and my lads are far from perfect and we cannot possibly have the city as clean as a pin 24/7, however, we will do the best we can with the resources that we have. I get as frustrated as much as everybody else when the city is a mess, I hate to "look down" at the state of the pavements, stains galore, it absolutely infuriates me!
There is so much that I want to say to you all but I would probably get into trouble if I did!
I am a York resident and I want the city to look good for York residents first and foremost, we/you are the people who live/work here 365 days a year, I also want it to look good for the visitors/tourists who keep lots of us in work.
If something is bothering you or there is an issue you want sorting/think I can sort or just want a face to face moan at me, please contact me at paul.willey@york.gov
.uk and I will do my level best to sort it out.
Thanks.
Hello everybody, I just want to thank people who have put some positive comments forward regarding my team, myself and my lads are far from perfect and we cannot possibly have the city as clean as a pin 24/7, however, we will do the best we can with the resources that we have. I get as frustrated as much as everybody else when the city is a mess, I hate to "look down" at the state of the pavements, stains galore, it absolutely infuriates me! There is so much that I want to say to you all but I would probably get into trouble if I did! I am a York resident and I want the city to look good for York residents first and foremost, we/you are the people who live/work here 365 days a year, I also want it to look good for the visitors/tourists who keep lots of us in work. If something is bothering you or there is an issue you want sorting/think I can sort or just want a face to face moan at me, please contact me at paul.willey@york.gov .uk and I will do my level best to sort it out. Thanks. PR Willey
  • Score: 4

5:10pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

PlanetTea wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.
[quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-)[/p][/quote]Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

5:57pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Maquis says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
PlanetTea wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.
Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-)[/p][/quote]Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.[/p][/quote]Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves. Maquis
  • Score: 0

7:09pm Wed 23 Jul 14

the original Homer says...

PR Willey wrote:
Hello everybody, I just want to thank people who have put some positive comments forward regarding my team, myself and my lads are far from perfect and we cannot possibly have the city as clean as a pin 24/7, however, we will do the best we can with the resources that we have. I get as frustrated as much as everybody else when the city is a mess, I hate to "look down" at the state of the pavements, stains galore, it absolutely infuriates me!
There is so much that I want to say to you all but I would probably get into trouble if I did!
I am a York resident and I want the city to look good for York residents first and foremost, we/you are the people who live/work here 365 days a year, I also want it to look good for the visitors/tourists who keep lots of us in work.
If something is bothering you or there is an issue you want sorting/think I can sort or just want a face to face moan at me, please contact me at paul.willey@york.gov

.uk and I will do my level best to sort it out.
Thanks.
You Sir stand head and shoulders above any other spokesperson I've heard (read) who has a '...@york.gov.uk' address.

You are exactly the kind of person we need working for the Council.

It's a shame some of the more senior staff aren't as genuine as you obviously are.
[quote][p][bold]PR Willey[/bold] wrote: Hello everybody, I just want to thank people who have put some positive comments forward regarding my team, myself and my lads are far from perfect and we cannot possibly have the city as clean as a pin 24/7, however, we will do the best we can with the resources that we have. I get as frustrated as much as everybody else when the city is a mess, I hate to "look down" at the state of the pavements, stains galore, it absolutely infuriates me! There is so much that I want to say to you all but I would probably get into trouble if I did! I am a York resident and I want the city to look good for York residents first and foremost, we/you are the people who live/work here 365 days a year, I also want it to look good for the visitors/tourists who keep lots of us in work. If something is bothering you or there is an issue you want sorting/think I can sort or just want a face to face moan at me, please contact me at paul.willey@york.gov .uk and I will do my level best to sort it out. Thanks.[/p][/quote]You Sir stand head and shoulders above any other spokesperson I've heard (read) who has a '...@york.gov.uk' address. You are exactly the kind of person we need working for the Council. It's a shame some of the more senior staff aren't as genuine as you obviously are. the original Homer
  • Score: 3

8:04pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
PlanetTea wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.
Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.
"Its not my kind of venue "

Oh never mind. Maybe they will have male lap dancers there in future.
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-)[/p][/quote]Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.[/p][/quote]Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.[/p][/quote]"Its not my kind of venue " Oh never mind. Maybe they will have male lap dancers there in future. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

8:19pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Maquis says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
PlanetTea wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.
Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.
"Its not my kind of venue "

Oh never mind. Maybe they will have male lap dancers there in future.
Will you be dancing?
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-)[/p][/quote]Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.[/p][/quote]Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.[/p][/quote]"Its not my kind of venue " Oh never mind. Maybe they will have male lap dancers there in future.[/p][/quote]Will you be dancing? Maquis
  • Score: -1

8:51pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
PlanetTea wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
jay, york wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Maquis wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.
A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.
You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.
If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...
Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???
Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?
EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.
I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one!
Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is.

As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it.

As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot!
Am I sensing some sexual tension guys?

Haha :-)
Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.
Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.
"Its not my kind of venue "

Oh never mind. Maybe they will have male lap dancers there in future.
Will you be dancing?
Not for you. You may have a dodgy ticker and I wouldn't want to get you too excited.
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: Oh dear you are back to bore me. How predictable.[/p][/quote]A great well thought out response from a bigot who I'm sure spent his/her whole youth sitting looking at a wall.[/p][/quote]You are such an evil queen. Must be the heat.[/p][/quote]If you can't take the heat, keep out of the kitchen. Bitterness is not becoming...[/p][/quote]Seems that the only one that is bitter is you - appears you may have got too close to bloodaxe again...... Who else uses abusive language like this???[/p][/quote]Please enlighten me as to the abusive language you refer? Also who is Bloodaxe?[/p][/quote]EVERYONE knows who bloodaxe is councillor - the rest of youir post does not even deserve a comment. Why would you call someone a bigot when you do not even know who they are. And I do NOT want an answer.[/p][/quote]I do not care if you do not want an answer, I'm giving you one! Everyone does not know who Bloodaxe is. I have seen the name on here, but I have no idea who he is. As for calling Pinza a bigot, I do not have to know who someone is to call them a bigot. His first comment was a bigoted one. A bigot is not an offensive term unless you choose it to be, and therefore is your problem not mine. A Bigot is someone who is intolerant. His comment was one of intolerance, so he is bigoted. If the proper use of the English language offends you, then its probably best that you stop reading and listening to it. As is happens, the fact that you are intolerant of my post also makes you a bigot![/p][/quote]Am I sensing some sexual tension guys? Haha :-)[/p][/quote]Maybe on his part. As soon as the lap dancing club opens he should be able to get that sorted and fade into obscurity.[/p][/quote]Its not my kind of venue (however I don't object to it in any way) but I may visit the place at some point, and I expect I will have to work my way past you and your like minded bigots with placards out the front chanting about others enjoying themselves.[/p][/quote]"Its not my kind of venue " Oh never mind. Maybe they will have male lap dancers there in future.[/p][/quote]Will you be dancing?[/p][/quote]Not for you. You may have a dodgy ticker and I wouldn't want to get you too excited. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 1

10:19pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Maquis says...

That's a shame, I was looking forward to it.....
That's a shame, I was looking forward to it..... Maquis
  • Score: -1

10:52pm Wed 23 Jul 14

rking1977 says...

PR Willey wrote:
Hello everybody, I just want to thank people who have put some positive comments forward regarding my team, myself and my lads are far from perfect and we cannot possibly have the city as clean as a pin 24/7, however, we will do the best we can with the resources that we have. I get as frustrated as much as everybody else when the city is a mess, I hate to "look down" at the state of the pavements, stains galore, it absolutely infuriates me!
There is so much that I want to say to you all but I would probably get into trouble if I did!
I am a York resident and I want the city to look good for York residents first and foremost, we/you are the people who live/work here 365 days a year, I also want it to look good for the visitors/tourists who keep lots of us in work.
If something is bothering you or there is an issue you want sorting/think I can sort or just want a face to face moan at me, please contact me at paul.willey@york.gov

.uk and I will do my level best to sort it out.
Thanks.
Paul - great to hear from a 'real person' at the council and hats off to you for sharing your thoughts. I think people really appreciate the efforts of you and your team and think you do a great job with the resources you have.

I also think people are frustrated that the council in general is clearly asking staff to do more with less while ignoring the things that are causing litter and not working out any solutions.

They need to look at the bigger picture - make it known York has a zero-tolerance approach to litter. Get high-profile litter wardens out there fining people so they think twice about littering in the first place (including at night when all the groups of morons trash the town).

Set fines as high as legally possible, and give offenders the chance to 'waive' the fine if they do some community payback - a few hours of litter-picking in a bright orange vest.

Make businesses more accountable and force them to tidy up after their customers (takeaways and pavement cafes are worst). They should be doing this anyway as a term of their licence but clearly don't bother.

Impose a £1 per night tourist tax via hotels and use the money to keep the streets clean.

Provide more bins (or at least bring back the ones that were removed a couple of years ago) and make sure they're in the right places so people have no excuse.

None of this is rocket science, so come on CYC - don't leave it all up to the hardworking guys on the front line. Prevention is better than cure.
[quote][p][bold]PR Willey[/bold] wrote: Hello everybody, I just want to thank people who have put some positive comments forward regarding my team, myself and my lads are far from perfect and we cannot possibly have the city as clean as a pin 24/7, however, we will do the best we can with the resources that we have. I get as frustrated as much as everybody else when the city is a mess, I hate to "look down" at the state of the pavements, stains galore, it absolutely infuriates me! There is so much that I want to say to you all but I would probably get into trouble if I did! I am a York resident and I want the city to look good for York residents first and foremost, we/you are the people who live/work here 365 days a year, I also want it to look good for the visitors/tourists who keep lots of us in work. If something is bothering you or there is an issue you want sorting/think I can sort or just want a face to face moan at me, please contact me at paul.willey@york.gov .uk and I will do my level best to sort it out. Thanks.[/p][/quote]Paul - great to hear from a 'real person' at the council and hats off to you for sharing your thoughts. I think people really appreciate the efforts of you and your team and think you do a great job with the resources you have. I also think people are frustrated that the council in general is clearly asking staff to do more with less while ignoring the things that are causing litter and not working out any solutions. They need to look at the bigger picture - make it known York has a zero-tolerance approach to litter. Get high-profile litter wardens out there fining people so they think twice about littering in the first place (including at night when all the groups of morons trash the town). Set fines as high as legally possible, and give offenders the chance to 'waive' the fine if they do some community payback - a few hours of litter-picking in a bright orange vest. Make businesses more accountable and force them to tidy up after their customers (takeaways and pavement cafes are worst). They should be doing this anyway as a term of their licence but clearly don't bother. Impose a £1 per night tourist tax via hotels and use the money to keep the streets clean. Provide more bins (or at least bring back the ones that were removed a couple of years ago) and make sure they're in the right places so people have no excuse. None of this is rocket science, so come on CYC - don't leave it all up to the hardworking guys on the front line. Prevention is better than cure. rking1977
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