Chance not taken

Chance not taken

Chance not taken

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SOME two-and-a-half weeks ago, I wrote to Councillor James Alexander, the leader of the council, with the suggestion that following the relocation of the Askham Bar park and ride, a golden opportunity had arisen for the council to facilitate the building of social/affordable housing on the redundant car park.

I am still awaiting his reply.

I asked that discussions be undertaken with a local housing association, who I am quite sure would grasp the opportunity to develop this site with both hands.

All members of council agree that this type of housing is desperately needed in the city.

This opportunity must not be lost: it is a golden opportunity to show that our Labour council does care about affordable housing.

So come on Cllr Alexander – take some positive steps to help in some small way to alleviate the situation and get talking to a housing association.

Cllr John Galvin, Bishopthorpe ward, City of York Council.

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9:33am Sat 19 Jul 14

Jack Ham says...

Labour in York only care about playing politics. They want to build on green spaces to punish those who live there for not being Labour voters.
Labour in York only care about playing politics. They want to build on green spaces to punish those who live there for not being Labour voters. Jack Ham
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5:35pm Sat 19 Jul 14

gmsgop says...

What are the management & cabinet doing? It has been known for a long time that this site would be available. Why hasn't the council completed the sale by now? We could have had works started on social housing already if they had planned ahead properly.
As usual, too little, too late #tut tut

Gwen swinburn
What are the management & cabinet doing? It has been known for a long time that this site would be available. Why hasn't the council completed the sale by now? We could have had works started on social housing already if they had planned ahead properly. As usual, too little, too late #tut tut Gwen swinburn gmsgop
  • Score: -14

6:32pm Sat 19 Jul 14

courier46 says...

Tell you what Cllr Galvin you have the social housing near you,is that where you live Bish?.We have enough with the old college site and the un desirables that seem to think they can cause misery for there neighbours.
Tell you what Cllr Galvin you have the social housing near you,is that where you live Bish?.We have enough with the old college site and the un desirables that seem to think they can cause misery for there neighbours. courier46
  • Score: -1

9:15am Sun 20 Jul 14

julia brica says...

Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site.
You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.
Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site. You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad. julia brica
  • Score: -12

10:43am Sun 20 Jul 14

courier46 says...

julia brica wrote:
Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site.
You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.
That is what i have with social housing Julia,it`s not the decent people it`s the few that spoil it but that few make a huge difference to an area.
My problem is not just the scum that dont have respect for anyone but the council who take so long to evict them up to 4 years,4 years of hell for there neighbours,4 years of making diaries and intimidation.
The council should have a 2 strikes and your out rule.
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site. You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.[/p][/quote]That is what i have with social housing Julia,it`s not the decent people it`s the few that spoil it but that few make a huge difference to an area. My problem is not just the scum that dont have respect for anyone but the council who take so long to evict them up to 4 years,4 years of hell for there neighbours,4 years of making diaries and intimidation. The council should have a 2 strikes and your out rule. courier46
  • Score: -4

7:47pm Sun 20 Jul 14

julia brica says...

courier46 wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site.
You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.
That is what i have with social housing Julia,it`s not the decent people it`s the few that spoil it but that few make a huge difference to an area.
My problem is not just the scum that dont have respect for anyone but the council who take so long to evict them up to 4 years,4 years of hell for there neighbours,4 years of making diaries and intimidation.
The council should have a 2 strikes and your out rule.
Rather they shouldn't be pepper potted around good quality housing in the first place.
[quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site. You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.[/p][/quote]That is what i have with social housing Julia,it`s not the decent people it`s the few that spoil it but that few make a huge difference to an area. My problem is not just the scum that dont have respect for anyone but the council who take so long to evict them up to 4 years,4 years of hell for there neighbours,4 years of making diaries and intimidation. The council should have a 2 strikes and your out rule.[/p][/quote]Rather they shouldn't be pepper potted around good quality housing in the first place. julia brica
  • Score: -11

8:21pm Sun 20 Jul 14

courier46 says...

julia brica wrote:
courier46 wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site.
You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.
That is what i have with social housing Julia,it`s not the decent people it`s the few that spoil it but that few make a huge difference to an area.
My problem is not just the scum that dont have respect for anyone but the council who take so long to evict them up to 4 years,4 years of hell for there neighbours,4 years of making diaries and intimidation.
The council should have a 2 strikes and your out rule.
Rather they shouldn't be pepper potted around good quality housing in the first place.
Yes true,that`s why i am so against the council and there mass house building putting affordable in with them.
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Sadly courier I have first hand knowledge of what you say about the old college site. You are quite correct, the instance of unreasonable behaviour here is really bad.[/p][/quote]That is what i have with social housing Julia,it`s not the decent people it`s the few that spoil it but that few make a huge difference to an area. My problem is not just the scum that dont have respect for anyone but the council who take so long to evict them up to 4 years,4 years of hell for there neighbours,4 years of making diaries and intimidation. The council should have a 2 strikes and your out rule.[/p][/quote]Rather they shouldn't be pepper potted around good quality housing in the first place.[/p][/quote]Yes true,that`s why i am so against the council and there mass house building putting affordable in with them. courier46
  • Score: 1

12:57pm Tue 22 Jul 14

MarkyMarkMark says...

It's worth saying that many people who live in social housing are quite respectable, decent human beings and good neighbours,

A small proportion of people are those you wouldn't want to live next door to, and it doesn't take too much imagination to realise there's a kind of critical mass thing going on.

Historically, there were always good and less good estates, and if you don't spread social housing around, there's a danger you end up with a ghetto or "sink" estate.

Surely, the correct answer is to ensure that there isn't too much social housing forced into the mix in any one area? I suspect there may also be something about population and building density that doesn't help either - the old college site feels amazing over-built to me.

And the old P&R at Askham Bar - if it has to be built on, can we ask for a less dense development, with far fewer over size (3 & 4 storey) properties?
It's worth saying that many people who live in social housing are quite respectable, decent human beings and good neighbours, A small proportion of people are those you wouldn't want to live next door to, and it doesn't take too much imagination to realise there's a kind of critical mass thing going on. Historically, there were always good and less good estates, and if you don't spread social housing around, there's a danger you end up with a ghetto or "sink" estate. Surely, the correct answer is to ensure that there isn't too much social housing forced into the mix in any one area? I suspect there may also be something about population and building density that doesn't help either - the old college site feels amazing over-built to me. And the old P&R at Askham Bar - if it has to be built on, can we ask for a less dense development, with far fewer over size (3 & 4 storey) properties? MarkyMarkMark
  • Score: 0

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