UKIP is a protest vote? So what?

UKIP is a protest vote? So what?

UKIP is a protest vote? So what?

First published in Letters by

I WOULD like to add my two penn’orth to the correspondence about UKIP.

My first vote was in 1945 when I was living in a tent in Gaza with the Paras. We had lived in Africa, Italy, France, Greece and Palestine and saw how other people lived.

I talked over the issues with my troop of 30 men and all wanted a fairer society, Harold Wilson’s Labour government was elected.

It started the National Health Service, built hundreds of thousands of council houses, nationalised the coal, power and railway industries, but continued food rationing for far too long and was eventually brought down by greedy trade union leaders.

The Edward Heath government took us into a European Common Market, not the monster that the EU has become. Mrs Thatcher’s government privatised the power companies, telephone and water supplies which are now largely foreign owned. I did not expect to be overcharged for my electricity by a German company.

John Major made a pig’s ear of privatising the railways. The current lot put up the price of postage stamps and then sold off Royal Mail at a knock-down price to their hedge fund supporters who proceeded to make a killing, aided and abetted by Vince Cable, whose Lib-Dem party I consider irrelevant.

I am a socialist by birth and instinct, but who in their right mind would vote Labour if Ed Balls had anything to do with the finances?

The Blair/Brown governments invaded Iraq on a tissue of lies and left that country in ruins; their financial incompetence and failure to monitor the banks left our country in ruins also. UKIP is a protest vote? So what? We are protesting against the established parties and the EU.

G A W Heppell, Riseborough House, Rawcliffe Lane, York.

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1:28pm Sat 31 May 14

Badgers Drift says...

Good letter Mr Heppell!
Good letter Mr Heppell! Badgers Drift
  • Score: -24

2:41pm Sat 31 May 14

A.P.Feeders says...

Badgers Drift wrote:
Good letter Mr Heppell!
I second that
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: Good letter Mr Heppell![/p][/quote]I second that A.P.Feeders
  • Score: -14

3:14pm Sat 31 May 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Vote Carried.

Mr Heppell told it as it is. I doubt the GreenLibLabCon will be seriously reviewing their lack of understanding of the issues facing us until after the next general election. Rather like the warming belief will continue until the next ice age if left to what we call the current main stream. Why we need change, and fast!
Vote Carried. Mr Heppell told it as it is. I doubt the GreenLibLabCon will be seriously reviewing their lack of understanding of the issues facing us until after the next general election. Rather like the warming belief will continue until the next ice age if left to what we call the current main stream. Why we need change, and fast! ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -28

4:17pm Sat 31 May 14

bolero says...

One or two facts need correcting I think. Harold Wilson did not come to power as PM until 1964. In 1945 Clement Atlee was elected PM and it was under his government that the NHS came into being as a result of the Beveridge report. Whilst privatisation of the railways was enacted in 1993 during tory rule under John Major the process was started by Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s.
One or two facts need correcting I think. Harold Wilson did not come to power as PM until 1964. In 1945 Clement Atlee was elected PM and it was under his government that the NHS came into being as a result of the Beveridge report. Whilst privatisation of the railways was enacted in 1993 during tory rule under John Major the process was started by Margaret Thatcher during the 1980s. bolero
  • Score: 12

4:18pm Sat 31 May 14

Get-a-grip2 says...

My first vote was in 1945 when I was living in a tent in Gaza with the Paras. We had lived in Africa, Italy, France, Greece and Palestine and saw how other people lived.
I talked over the issues with my troop of 30 men and all wanted a fairer society, Harold Wilson’s Labour government was elected.

Wrong leader, is the rest a load of tosh as well?
[quote]My first vote was in 1945 when I was living in a tent in Gaza with the Paras. We had lived in Africa, Italy, France, Greece and Palestine and saw how other people lived. I talked over the issues with my troop of 30 men and all wanted a fairer society, Harold Wilson’s Labour government was elected.[/quote] Wrong leader, is the rest a load of tosh as well? Get-a-grip2
  • Score: 12

4:33pm Sat 31 May 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

I should have spotted that, yes Wilson twice elected in 1964. The big changes for the better and deserving of a victorious nation (if not financially)
were indeed made under the Atlee government.
Even Norman Tebbitt admired these measures and that speaks volumes.
I should have spotted that, yes Wilson twice elected in 1964. The big changes for the better and deserving of a victorious nation (if not financially) were indeed made under the Atlee government. Even Norman Tebbitt admired these measures and that speaks volumes. ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -22

4:55pm Sat 31 May 14

notpedallingpaul says...

A.P.Feeders wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
Good letter Mr Heppell!
I second that
I third it.
[quote][p][bold]A.P.Feeders[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: Good letter Mr Heppell![/p][/quote]I second that[/p][/quote]I third it. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -20

9:01pm Sat 31 May 14

Dave Ruddock says...

I think all parties need to be aware its the voters, Im just fed up with the (we will) then when what ever party is it suddenly changes to "I will" and for their own benefit and NOT the voters. Is there a MythBusters party ??
I think all parties need to be aware its the voters, Im just fed up with the (we will) then when what ever party is it suddenly changes to "I will" and for their own benefit and NOT the voters. Is there a MythBusters party ?? Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 3

11:12pm Sat 31 May 14

Jonothon says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
I should have spotted that, yes Wilson twice elected in 1964. The big changes for the better and deserving of a victorious nation (if not financially)
were indeed made under the Atlee government.
Even Norman Tebbitt admired these measures and that speaks volumes.
Yeah Norman Tebbitt was the one who said "when my dad was unemployed he didn't moan, he got on his bike and found a job" Now when immigrants take his advice and do the same, he becomes a UKIP style whinger.

Tory and UKIP hypocrites.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: I should have spotted that, yes Wilson twice elected in 1964. The big changes for the better and deserving of a victorious nation (if not financially) were indeed made under the Atlee government. Even Norman Tebbitt admired these measures and that speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]Yeah Norman Tebbitt was the one who said "when my dad was unemployed he didn't moan, he got on his bike and found a job" Now when immigrants take his advice and do the same, he becomes a UKIP style whinger. Tory and UKIP hypocrites. Jonothon
  • Score: 13

1:41am Sun 1 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**?
Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:-

Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die.
Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would.
LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election.

... so who do you want to vote for??
The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**? Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:- Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die. Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would. LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election. ... so who do you want to vote for?? Magicman!
  • Score: 6

2:52am Sun 1 Jun 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Nice one Magicman, that just leaves Nigel like more York folks did last time over any other single party. I expect to hear that the non voters are non UKIP before long.
And Jonothon, I wasn't aware that Tebbitt had anything to do with UKIP, did you just make that up? I do agree with his Cricket test though. It is a test of loyalty to one's nation. Plenty of immigrants are loyal to the UK and no issue with that. I can think of plenty who are not loyal and live here though. I dare say you don't have a problem with that?
Nice one Magicman, that just leaves Nigel like more York folks did last time over any other single party. I expect to hear that the non voters are non UKIP before long. And Jonothon, I wasn't aware that Tebbitt had anything to do with UKIP, did you just make that up? I do agree with his Cricket test though. It is a test of loyalty to one's nation. Plenty of immigrants are loyal to the UK and no issue with that. I can think of plenty who are not loyal and live here though. I dare say you don't have a problem with that? ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -47

9:35am Sun 1 Jun 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Get-a-grip2 wrote:
My first vote was in 1945 when I was living in a tent in Gaza with the Paras. We had lived in Africa, Italy, France, Greece and Palestine and saw how other people lived.
I talked over the issues with my troop of 30 men and all wanted a fairer society, Harold Wilson’s Labour government was elected.

Wrong leader, is the rest a load of tosh as well?
grow up! typical intolerant lefty bigot reply!
Mr Heppell served our country and probably forgot more than you will ever know!
[quote][p][bold]Get-a-grip2[/bold] wrote: [quote]My first vote was in 1945 when I was living in a tent in Gaza with the Paras. We had lived in Africa, Italy, France, Greece and Palestine and saw how other people lived. I talked over the issues with my troop of 30 men and all wanted a fairer society, Harold Wilson’s Labour government was elected.[/quote] Wrong leader, is the rest a load of tosh as well?[/p][/quote]grow up! typical intolerant lefty bigot reply! Mr Heppell served our country and probably forgot more than you will ever know! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -46

11:17am Sun 1 Jun 14

Jonothon says...

Magicman! wrote:
The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**?
Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:-

Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die.
Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would.
LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election.

... so who do you want to vote for??
"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced

Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**? Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:- Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die. Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would. LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election. ... so who do you want to vote for??[/p][/quote]"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at. Jonothon
  • Score: 33

3:36pm Sun 1 Jun 14

bolero says...

I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.
I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for. bolero
  • Score: -9

7:42pm Sun 1 Jun 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Jonothon wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**?
Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:-

Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die.
Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would.
LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election.

... so who do you want to vote for??
"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced

Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.
I am curious Jonothon , although CaC's post is essentially ad hom attacks it is fairly accurate.
Do you think Cameron amounts to more than what the late Christopher Hitchens called a "content free zone" and said of him "People say what do you think of him? And I reply 'there's nothing there to think about"
And is Miliband not a "bag carrier" with no experience of the world beyond University and so is Clegg.
If you disagree , can you tell me why?
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**? Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:- Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die. Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would. LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election. ... so who do you want to vote for??[/p][/quote]"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.[/p][/quote]I am curious Jonothon , although CaC's post is essentially ad hom attacks it is fairly accurate. Do you think Cameron amounts to more than what the late Christopher Hitchens called a "content free zone" and said of him "People say what do you think of him? And I reply 'there's nothing there to think about" And is Miliband not a "bag carrier" with no experience of the world beyond University and so is Clegg. If you disagree , can you tell me why? Pinza-C55
  • Score: 10

8:14pm Sun 1 Jun 14

bolero says...

I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.
I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election. bolero
  • Score: 7

10:31pm Sun 1 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

bolero wrote:
I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.
So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.[/p][/quote]So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -12

10:44pm Sun 1 Jun 14

bolero says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
bolero wrote:
I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.
So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.
A political party with a track record, be it good or bad not a party without roots or policies and just hoping to grab a few seats on the backs of disillusioned voters. They will take over from the Lib Dems, scooping up some useless votes but never in a position to form a government of their own.
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.[/p][/quote]So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.[/p][/quote]A political party with a track record, be it good or bad not a party without roots or policies and just hoping to grab a few seats on the backs of disillusioned voters. They will take over from the Lib Dems, scooping up some useless votes but never in a position to form a government of their own. bolero
  • Score: 25

4:21am Mon 2 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

bolero wrote:
I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.
The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.[/p][/quote]The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you. Magicman!
  • Score: 2

4:28am Mon 2 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

Jonothon wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**?
Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:-

Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die.
Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would.
LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election.

... so who do you want to vote for??
"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced

Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.
Oh what's the matter? have I said some nasty things about somebody you vote for? I haven't insulted you, so get over it and move on. If my post says anything about me, it says that I have lost faith in the current political elite being able to perfom some of even the simplest tasks let alone running a country successfully. And if you go out there and ask younger people what they think of the current political establishment, if they do have views you will find their views are remarkably similar.... politicians can continue to ignore this viewpoint, and see ever-decreasing turnouts for elections showing people have lost faith in them, of they can accept such feedback and try to work on ways to improve their appeal to a broader range of people. Just trying to flame down comments from people who have the balls to write their uninhibited views of the political establishment does nothing. Think about that next time.
[quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**? Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:- Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die. Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would. LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election. ... so who do you want to vote for??[/p][/quote]"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.[/p][/quote]Oh what's the matter? have I said some nasty things about somebody you vote for? I haven't insulted you, so get over it and move on. If my post says anything about me, it says that I have lost faith in the current political elite being able to perfom some of even the simplest tasks let alone running a country successfully. And if you go out there and ask younger people what they think of the current political establishment, if they do have views you will find their views are remarkably similar.... politicians can continue to ignore this viewpoint, and see ever-decreasing turnouts for elections showing people have lost faith in them, of they can accept such feedback and try to work on ways to improve their appeal to a broader range of people. Just trying to flame down comments from people who have the balls to write their uninhibited views of the political establishment does nothing. Think about that next time. Magicman!
  • Score: 0

4:31am Mon 2 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
bolero wrote:
I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.
So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.
Exactly... but those who still want to retain the current political setup don't want to hear it. Their repelling comments are the online equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and going "LALALALALALALALAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!"
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.[/p][/quote]So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.[/p][/quote]Exactly... but those who still want to retain the current political setup don't want to hear it. Their repelling comments are the online equivalent of putting their fingers in their ears and going "LALALALALALALALAAA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!" Magicman!
  • Score: 3

4:38am Mon 2 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

bolero wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
bolero wrote:
I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.
So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.
A political party with a track record, be it good or bad not a party without roots or policies and just hoping to grab a few seats on the backs of disillusioned voters. They will take over from the Lib Dems, scooping up some useless votes but never in a position to form a government of their own.
How does a political party get a track record then? can you answer that?
Is it perhaps by getting the chance to have control over a local council or some element of parliament?

It is a glorified position that a lot of young jobseekers find themselves in: they apply for jobs, but are declined as they don't have "experience in the role" - but how does a person get experience in said role unless they get employed in a similar role? a role which they can't get employment into because they don't have the experience.

Everybody has to start somewhere. Back when they first started out, this new-fangled political party which was born in Doncaster called Labour had no track record, and I will hazard a guess to state there were people at that time who tried to suggest they had no hope of ever runilg the country (especially as they represented the working class at that time). A person or a political party can only get a track record by being given a chance to show off what they can do.... if you cannot work that one out then perhaps you should refrain from all the jibes against those who have a viewpoint different from your own.

... and since you didn't understand it that last time I wrote it down, I will repeat what I said earlier:
Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains

I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM

There you go, and that includes UKIP. Clear as day.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I thought Farage might have appeared on `Britain's Got Talent`; juggling with a glass of beer as that seems to be the extent of his talents. I think the thought of this one tracked mind, out of Europe, beer swigging no-hoper will be enough to persuade the electorate to vote for a proper party ,whoever they might choose, at the general election.[/p][/quote]So who do you call a 'proper party', you might think 'Magicman!' comments extreme, but he is only reiterating how we the 'hoi polloi' talk about our leading politicians.[/p][/quote]A political party with a track record, be it good or bad not a party without roots or policies and just hoping to grab a few seats on the backs of disillusioned voters. They will take over from the Lib Dems, scooping up some useless votes but never in a position to form a government of their own.[/p][/quote]How does a political party get a track record then? can you answer that? Is it perhaps by getting the chance to have control over a local council or some element of parliament? It is a glorified position that a lot of young jobseekers find themselves in: they apply for jobs, but are declined as they don't have "experience in the role" - but how does a person get experience in said role unless they get employed in a similar role? a role which they can't get employment into because they don't have the experience. Everybody has to start somewhere. Back when they first started out, this new-fangled political party which was born in Doncaster called Labour had no track record, and I will hazard a guess to state there were people at that time who tried to suggest they had no hope of ever runilg the country (especially as they represented the working class at that time). A person or a political party can only get a track record by being given a chance to show off what they can do.... if you cannot work that one out then perhaps you should refrain from all the jibes against those who have a viewpoint different from your own. ... and since you didn't understand it that last time I wrote it down, I will repeat what I said earlier: [quote]Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains[/quote] I DON'T WANT TO VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM There you go, and that includes UKIP. Clear as day. Magicman!
  • Score: 1

9:34am Mon 2 Jun 14

Jonothon says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Jonothon wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**?
Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:-

Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die.
Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would.
LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election.

... so who do you want to vote for??
"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced

Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.
I am curious Jonothon , although CaC's post is essentially ad hom attacks it is fairly accurate.
Do you think Cameron amounts to more than what the late Christopher Hitchens called a "content free zone" and said of him "People say what do you think of him? And I reply 'there's nothing there to think about"
And is Miliband not a "bag carrier" with no experience of the world beyond University and so is Clegg.
If you disagree , can you tell me why?
Personal abuse is distasteful and inconsequential. The main parties all have appalling records of incompetence and even betrayal of their duties, and focusing on irrelevancies such as appearance, dress codes, mannerisms is not only unpleasant, worse still it lets them off the hook. The Hitchens quote you mention about a content free zone is about substance not style and Hitchens barbs were always in a political context. The trash in this thread, is shallow personal abuse posing as political comment. Sneering at peoples appearance is only a step away at sneering at the colour of their skin.

If you want to destroy the credibility of our politicians, focus on their role in issues like the criminality of the Iraq war, the banking scandal, corruption poverty and the economy ,and leave personal abuse out of it
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jonothon[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: The letter raises fair points... the current situation when it comes to casting a vote next year is too hard to call. When you go into that voting booth, do you vote for a d***, a t*** or a t**? Frankly, I don't want to vote for any of them - because all of them let power go to their head and use it for their own personal gains.... but here's the current run-down:- Tory - the smug-faced Cameron, possibly some form of android built by a hedge fund company to do their bidding and get them tax breaks at the cost of welfare and healtcare for the poor, whilst at the same time setting up the foundations so that the next time they gain power they can sell off the NHS to such companies to make personal monetary gains - whilst those who then cannot afford private healthcare then cannot work and so cannot eat and then die. Labour - the wierd-faced Milliband, most likely a chinese-built android which hasn't had the firmware upgrade to make the personality more lifelike; the lisping face of a party that has lost its core values of standing up for the common man; the party that sent us into 2 phoney baloney wars at great human cost whilst setting the money markets up for a colossal failure; the party that if re-elected will just carry out a lot of the same policies the Tories would. LibDem - the whispers of Nick Clegg, the guy who has done more U-turns than a lost driver in an unfamiliar city; the guy who sold his own party out for a small sniff at a hint of power, power that is then grabbed back by bullyboy Cameron who only used the weak-minded Clegg in order to get a majority of seats in the last election. ... so who do you want to vote for??[/p][/quote]"Weird faced," "bulllyboy," "weak minded" "lisping" "smug-faced Magicman, your catalogue of unpleasant personal abuse says more about you than it does about the people whose mannerisms and facial characteristics you sneer at.[/p][/quote]I am curious Jonothon , although CaC's post is essentially ad hom attacks it is fairly accurate. Do you think Cameron amounts to more than what the late Christopher Hitchens called a "content free zone" and said of him "People say what do you think of him? And I reply 'there's nothing there to think about" And is Miliband not a "bag carrier" with no experience of the world beyond University and so is Clegg. If you disagree , can you tell me why?[/p][/quote]Personal abuse is distasteful and inconsequential. The main parties all have appalling records of incompetence and even betrayal of their duties, and focusing on irrelevancies such as appearance, dress codes, mannerisms is not only unpleasant, worse still it lets them off the hook. The Hitchens quote you mention about a content free zone is about substance not style and Hitchens barbs were always in a political context. The trash in this thread, is shallow personal abuse posing as political comment. Sneering at peoples appearance is only a step away at sneering at the colour of their skin. If you want to destroy the credibility of our politicians, focus on their role in issues like the criminality of the Iraq war, the banking scandal, corruption poverty and the economy ,and leave personal abuse out of it Jonothon
  • Score: 37

12:58pm Mon 2 Jun 14

/kev/null says...

I'm struggling to understand why a self-confessed socialist, despairing at Labour moving to the right, wouldn't instead vote for the Greens? Perhaps the correspondent simply didn't read their manifesto.
I'm struggling to understand why a self-confessed socialist, despairing at Labour moving to the right, wouldn't instead vote for the Greens? Perhaps the correspondent simply didn't read their manifesto. /kev/null
  • Score: 36

1:02pm Mon 2 Jun 14

bolero says...

Magicman! wrote:
bolero wrote:
I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.
The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.
Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.[/p][/quote]The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.[/p][/quote]Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work. bolero
  • Score: 54

3:50am Tue 3 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

bolero wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
bolero wrote:
I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.
The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.
Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.
There's a lot of misguided people who read these pages. You only have to look at comments and votes on other articles to find that out. I wouldn't dillude yourself into thinking all the 'likes' are genuinely for the content of the post, as opposed to whether the post is simply 'for' or 'against' a certain point.

If you want 'likes' then you can do the following:
make anti-cyclist comments,
make anti-UKIP comments,
make anti-council comments (up until 8pm on the day of the article being posted, when the vote rigger comes on)

I don't post comments for 'likes', frankly I could not give any less hoots about what people thought of my posts than a mute owl. I post my thoughts, uncensored, undiluted, and without a care of whether somebody agress with it or not. And my above jibes about certain politicians is by no means unique... you only have to watch an episode of 'Have I Got News For You' or 'Mock The Week' to see other people have very similar thoughts. I would hazard a guess that posters above who think making jibes at people for their appearance is something despicable must not watch any form of comedy programs on the TV - because eventually every form of comedy works its way to a cheap laugh at somebody's appearance in one way or another.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.[/p][/quote]The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.[/p][/quote]Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.[/p][/quote]There's a lot of misguided people who read these pages. You only have to look at comments and votes on other articles to find that out. I wouldn't dillude yourself into thinking all the 'likes' are genuinely for the content of the post, as opposed to whether the post is simply 'for' or 'against' a certain point. If you want 'likes' then you can do the following: make anti-cyclist comments, make anti-UKIP comments, make anti-council comments (up until 8pm on the day of the article being posted, when the vote rigger comes on) I don't post comments for 'likes', frankly I could not give any less hoots about what people thought of my posts than a mute owl. I post my thoughts, uncensored, undiluted, and without a care of whether somebody agress with it or not. And my above jibes about certain politicians is by no means unique... you only have to watch an episode of 'Have I Got News For You' or 'Mock The Week' to see other people have very similar thoughts. I would hazard a guess that posters above who think making jibes at people for their appearance is something despicable must not watch any form of comedy programs on the TV - because eventually every form of comedy works its way to a cheap laugh at somebody's appearance in one way or another. Magicman!
  • Score: 2

10:52am Tue 3 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

bolero wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
bolero wrote: I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.
The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.
Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.
Dont you believe it, it affects you as well as others, just depends how the council infiltrator the press has allowed access to these pages feels whether a comment is contentious enough and then marks it accordingly to make it look as it is supported or un-supported - you are deluding yourelf if you think otherwise.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.[/p][/quote]The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.[/p][/quote]Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.[/p][/quote]Dont you believe it, it affects you as well as others, just depends how the council infiltrator the press has allowed access to these pages feels whether a comment is contentious enough and then marks it accordingly to make it look as it is supported or un-supported - you are deluding yourelf if you think otherwise. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -28

1:06pm Tue 3 Jun 14

bolero says...

Magicman! wrote:
bolero wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
bolero wrote:
I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.
The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.
Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.
There's a lot of misguided people who read these pages. You only have to look at comments and votes on other articles to find that out. I wouldn't dillude yourself into thinking all the 'likes' are genuinely for the content of the post, as opposed to whether the post is simply 'for' or 'against' a certain point.

If you want 'likes' then you can do the following:
make anti-cyclist comments,
make anti-UKIP comments,
make anti-council comments (up until 8pm on the day of the article being posted, when the vote rigger comes on)

I don't post comments for 'likes', frankly I could not give any less hoots about what people thought of my posts than a mute owl. I post my thoughts, uncensored, undiluted, and without a care of whether somebody agress with it or not. And my above jibes about certain politicians is by no means unique... you only have to watch an episode of 'Have I Got News For You' or 'Mock The Week' to see other people have very similar thoughts. I would hazard a guess that posters above who think making jibes at people for their appearance is something despicable must not watch any form of comedy programs on the TV - because eventually every form of comedy works its way to a cheap laugh at somebody's appearance in one way or another.
See what I mean about brevity. What's all this about for goodness sake? I suppose in the middle of the night one might write anything. Alright you may have a good reason for that but we don't need another diatribe on that. Sweet dreams.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: I agree with you on this occasion Jonothon. Indicates a lack of intelligence, literacy and common sense. I can imagine who he votes for.[/p][/quote]The difference here is that my insults are directed at politicians who through their actions DESERVE the jibes they receive - you on the other hand have directed a personal attack on somebody of whom you do not know and have just tried to get a cheap shot in. If you have read ANY of my other posts properly, you will see I am the exact opposite of your insults and highly literate. The fact you can only write a small post suggests a closed mind. And for your information I do not vote - I thought that was clearly obvious in the very first comment I made in my post, but perhaps your small mind was devoting all its limited runtime into finding a way of insulting me so as not to actually understand the first sentance. shame on you.[/p][/quote]Sometimes brevity says a lot and judging by the voting my postings seem to be meeting with approval by many. And I don't think the vote wrecker is at work.[/p][/quote]There's a lot of misguided people who read these pages. You only have to look at comments and votes on other articles to find that out. I wouldn't dillude yourself into thinking all the 'likes' are genuinely for the content of the post, as opposed to whether the post is simply 'for' or 'against' a certain point. If you want 'likes' then you can do the following: make anti-cyclist comments, make anti-UKIP comments, make anti-council comments (up until 8pm on the day of the article being posted, when the vote rigger comes on) I don't post comments for 'likes', frankly I could not give any less hoots about what people thought of my posts than a mute owl. I post my thoughts, uncensored, undiluted, and without a care of whether somebody agress with it or not. And my above jibes about certain politicians is by no means unique... you only have to watch an episode of 'Have I Got News For You' or 'Mock The Week' to see other people have very similar thoughts. I would hazard a guess that posters above who think making jibes at people for their appearance is something despicable must not watch any form of comedy programs on the TV - because eventually every form of comedy works its way to a cheap laugh at somebody's appearance in one way or another.[/p][/quote]See what I mean about brevity. What's all this about for goodness sake? I suppose in the middle of the night one might write anything. Alright you may have a good reason for that but we don't need another diatribe on that. Sweet dreams. bolero
  • Score: 25

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