Master and slave

York Press: Master and slave Master and slave

FOR some militant union leaders it would appear there is no better time to call a strike than in a time of recession, especially when lounging in your deckchair sunning oneself with all expenses paid through union contributions.

With few exceptions, bully-boy tactics achieve nothing. Only negotiation, without resorting to blackmail, by an informed responsible leader elected by an open ballot and not a block vote, will once again bring credibility to any union. Victorian working conditions no longer apply.

However, recent years have seen union leaders take over the mantle of master and slave with the cry of: “Don’t do as I do, do as I say – otherwise you will be ostracised.”

A 48-hour protest achieves nothing. Time would be better spent working alongside your fellow workers on the front line, collating facts – and not spouting fiction at a round table.

Kenneth Bowker, Vesper Walk, Huntington, York.

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12:34pm Mon 10 Feb 14

The Great Buda says...

The Unions are not perfect, but at least they have enough backbone to stand up to the lying politicians. The strike was called because Boris went back on an election pledge.

Where they go on Holiday has nothing to do with anything.
The Unions are not perfect, but at least they have enough backbone to stand up to the lying politicians. The strike was called because Boris went back on an election pledge. Where they go on Holiday has nothing to do with anything. The Great Buda

12:47pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Mulgrave says...

The Great Buda wrote:
The Unions are not perfect, but at least they have enough backbone to stand up to the lying politicians. The strike was called because Boris went back on an election pledge.

Where they go on Holiday has nothing to do with anything.
Yes, the holiday is neither here nor there, of more interest is his Housing Association home which is 50% of open market rent despite Mr Crow earning a six figure salary.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: The Unions are not perfect, but at least they have enough backbone to stand up to the lying politicians. The strike was called because Boris went back on an election pledge. Where they go on Holiday has nothing to do with anything.[/p][/quote]Yes, the holiday is neither here nor there, of more interest is his Housing Association home which is 50% of open market rent despite Mr Crow earning a six figure salary. Mulgrave

2:24pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Jonthan says...

I am very sceptical about the "facts" quoted by Mr Bowker, particularly when he states that a union leader was "sunning oneself with all expenses paid through union contributions"

I would be interested in seeing a source for that allegation. I am no lawyer but I suspect that using union subscriptions to pay for holiday expenses would amount to misappropriation of funds.

However if someone uses their holiday entitlement to takes a winter break at their own expense, then I can't see that it is any business of Mr. Bowker or anyone else.
I am very sceptical about the "facts" quoted by Mr Bowker, particularly when he states that a union leader was "sunning oneself with all expenses paid through union contributions" I would be interested in seeing a source for that allegation. I am no lawyer but I suspect that using union subscriptions to pay for holiday expenses would amount to misappropriation of funds. However if someone uses their holiday entitlement to takes a winter break at their own expense, then I can't see that it is any business of Mr. Bowker or anyone else. Jonthan

4:10pm Mon 10 Feb 14

pedalling paul says...

Bob Crow was as red as a lobster on holiday, according to the media.
Bob Crow was as red as a lobster on holiday, according to the media. pedalling paul

5:06pm Mon 10 Feb 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

I'll give you some facts, Jonthan. Be in denial if you wish.
Where Bob Crow goes on holiday is of significance. About a year ago on BBC Question Time, it was Bob Crow who said that he didn’t want his grandchildren choking on CO2. Let me remind you that CO2 is a trace gas, measured in parts per million. Man made CO2 is a tiny trace of a trace but Mr Crow, like other Union Leaders and the establishment have been taken in by carbon phobia and propaganda. It looks like this carbon footprint business is for other people!
In the Question Time from Portsmouth, it was GMB leader, Paul Kenny that spoke of Oceans becoming acidic! But at 7.9-8.3 Ph, they need to go through neutral before they can become acidic. More brainwashed scare hype.
As a firm supporter of the Union movement, I have my doubts about the integrity of Union leadership, especially with regard to the £100K + Salaries.
They are not in a position to talk about fat cats when they are themselves the fat cats.
As for the right to strike, absolutely. And the strike dates need to have maximum impact in order to end the dispute soonest. The other party most nearly concerned had a part to play, it appears they failed too.
I'll give you some facts, Jonthan. Be in denial if you wish. Where Bob Crow goes on holiday is of significance. About a year ago on BBC Question Time, it was Bob Crow who said that he didn’t want his grandchildren choking on CO2. Let me remind you that CO2 is a trace gas, measured in parts per million. Man made CO2 is a tiny trace of a trace but Mr Crow, like other Union Leaders and the establishment have been taken in by carbon phobia and propaganda. It looks like this carbon footprint business is for other people! In the Question Time from Portsmouth, it was GMB leader, Paul Kenny that spoke of Oceans becoming acidic! But at 7.9-8.3 Ph, they need to go through neutral before they can become acidic. More brainwashed scare hype. As a firm supporter of the Union movement, I have my doubts about the integrity of Union leadership, especially with regard to the £100K + Salaries. They are not in a position to talk about fat cats when they are themselves the fat cats. As for the right to strike, absolutely. And the strike dates need to have maximum impact in order to end the dispute soonest. The other party most nearly concerned had a part to play, it appears they failed too. ColdAsChristmas

6:16pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Red Star says...

I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony etc. etc...
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony etc. etc... Red Star

7:03pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Pinza-C55 says...

So much stupidity in one letter. It's as though Thatcher had been reincarnated.
So much stupidity in one letter. It's as though Thatcher had been reincarnated. Pinza-C55

7:10pm Mon 10 Feb 14

Jonthan says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
I'll give you some facts, Jonthan. Be in denial if you wish.
Where Bob Crow goes on holiday is of significance. About a year ago on BBC Question Time, it was Bob Crow who said that he didn’t want his grandchildren choking on CO2. Let me remind you that CO2 is a trace gas, measured in parts per million. Man made CO2 is a tiny trace of a trace but Mr Crow, like other Union Leaders and the establishment have been taken in by carbon phobia and propaganda. It looks like this carbon footprint business is for other people!
In the Question Time from Portsmouth, it was GMB leader, Paul Kenny that spoke of Oceans becoming acidic! But at 7.9-8.3 Ph, they need to go through neutral before they can become acidic. More brainwashed scare hype.
As a firm supporter of the Union movement, I have my doubts about the integrity of Union leadership, especially with regard to the £100K + Salaries.
They are not in a position to talk about fat cats when they are themselves the fat cats.
As for the right to strike, absolutely. And the strike dates need to have maximum impact in order to end the dispute soonest. The other party most nearly concerned had a part to play, it appears they failed too.
You are obsessed. Take up origami
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: I'll give you some facts, Jonthan. Be in denial if you wish. Where Bob Crow goes on holiday is of significance. About a year ago on BBC Question Time, it was Bob Crow who said that he didn’t want his grandchildren choking on CO2. Let me remind you that CO2 is a trace gas, measured in parts per million. Man made CO2 is a tiny trace of a trace but Mr Crow, like other Union Leaders and the establishment have been taken in by carbon phobia and propaganda. It looks like this carbon footprint business is for other people! In the Question Time from Portsmouth, it was GMB leader, Paul Kenny that spoke of Oceans becoming acidic! But at 7.9-8.3 Ph, they need to go through neutral before they can become acidic. More brainwashed scare hype. As a firm supporter of the Union movement, I have my doubts about the integrity of Union leadership, especially with regard to the £100K + Salaries. They are not in a position to talk about fat cats when they are themselves the fat cats. As for the right to strike, absolutely. And the strike dates need to have maximum impact in order to end the dispute soonest. The other party most nearly concerned had a part to play, it appears they failed too.[/p][/quote]You are obsessed. Take up origami Jonthan

10:30pm Mon 10 Feb 14

PKH says...

Kenneth Bowker' is banging on about the RMT what he has omitted from his letter is that the moderate union the TSSA was also striking as well, so his militant argument falls flat on it's face. Boris trying to close all ticket offices was the cause of the strike. London Uderground passengers are also against the ticket office closure.
Kenneth Bowker' is banging on about the RMT what he has omitted from his letter is that the moderate union the TSSA was also striking as well, so his militant argument falls flat on it's face. Boris trying to close all ticket offices was the cause of the strike. London Uderground passengers are also against the ticket office closure. PKH

11:03am Tue 11 Feb 14

tommytman says...

I think Mr Bowker should should start collating a few facts himself, once again the media have tried to brainwash the public regarding working class people fighting for jobs and conditions demonizing bob Crow for taking a holiday a holiday that according mr Bowker was payed out of union funds in his letter he mentioned victorian workng conditions and masters and slaves reading between the lines i think mr Bowker will be happy when there are no holidays ,employment rights living wage NHS etc. whatever background you are from Mr bowker i hope it,s not working class that would really worry me a future of masters and slaves
I think Mr Bowker should should start collating a few facts himself, once again the media have tried to brainwash the public regarding working class people fighting for jobs and conditions demonizing bob Crow for taking a holiday a holiday that according mr Bowker was payed out of union funds in his letter he mentioned victorian workng conditions and masters and slaves reading between the lines i think mr Bowker will be happy when there are no holidays ,employment rights living wage NHS etc. whatever background you are from Mr bowker i hope it,s not working class that would really worry me a future of masters and slaves tommytman

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