Views on poverty

Views on poverty

Views on poverty

First published in Letters by

RICHARD BRIDGE answers on behalf of Coun Simpson-Laing whether or not a lack of cigarettes, alcohol and other non-essential items constitutes a state of poverty. (Letters, January 25).

In his cost analysis of commodities, the hopeful Labour candidate failed to include satellite TV, tattoos and body piercings as part of the “ordinary living patterns” that he says must be included in any assessment of “multiple levels of deprivation”. Although avoiding a straight yes or no answer, Mr Bridge indicates a lack of sufficient tobacco and booze, etc, must constitute an impoverished state because anyone without them might feel socially excluded.

I disagree with this opinion and I am entitled to do so without a barrage of hate-mail from intolerant anonymous commentators. I do not disparage anyone who consumes these products. This is supposed to be a free country and I support the right of individuals to live as they wish. I simply do not accept that a lack of these items is a genuine example of impoverishment.

“Relative poverty” to me is poverty in relation to the genuine deprivation that some of my generation suffered in post-war years; the far worse hardship that my parents went through and, more importantly, the real poverty that afflicts so many millions in the third world today.

Matthew Laverack, Lord Mayor’s Walk, York.

 

• THE Joseph Rowntree Foundation highlight inadequate disposable income yet politicians do absolutely nothing. Politicians ought to shape up to their responsibility of eradicating poverty from Britain.

They should introduce payments to all British adult citizens, graduated taxation and a national non-for profit bank offering cheap inheritance-mortgages for first-time British buyers and affordable rent.

Citizens’ payments of £150 per week could replace most benefits and state pensions for British people. Young British people would receive this payment in return for their employment with small and medium enterprises.

Citizens’ payments would provide a sustainable substantial lift to all adults, massively boosting the economy and successful self-employment and along with affordable rent negate excessive benefits payments.

Banishing poverty is easy. What are politicians waiting for or do they sadistically relish that people struggle to make ends meet facing eviction if not for housing benefits and not having two pennies to rub together in disposable income?

Tom Scaife, Manor Drive, York.

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11:33am Wed 29 Jan 14

The Great Buda says...

"a barrage of hate-mail from intolerant anonymous commentators."

Again with the "woe is me" style Mr Laverick?

You're becoming more of a bore than Paul Hepworth.
"a barrage of hate-mail from intolerant anonymous commentators." Again with the "woe is me" style Mr Laverick? You're becoming more of a bore than Paul Hepworth. The Great Buda
  • Score: 40

1:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

RICHARD BRIDGE answers on behalf of Coun Simpson-Laing

Aw, sounds quite disappointed that he didn't get a response from TSL, doesn't he? Hmmmmm....

failed to include satellite TV, tattoos and body piercings as part of the “ordinary living patterns”

Maybe because he realised that tattoos and piercings last for a lifetime and may be acquired before falling into poverty? Maybe it's just a little bit prejudiced to assume that all these body adornments are fresh.

I disagree with this opinion and I am entitled to do so without a barrage of hate-mail from intolerant anonymous commentators.

Where's the "barrage of hate-mail?"
Again, criticism of opinion is not criticism of the person. What's so hard to understand about that?
We too are entitled to comment anonymously without named correspondents of this parish writing letters packed full of nasty lies, abuse and false accusations about us.
As in -
http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/features/read
ersletters/10738721.
The_Buzz_queue/

"Vitriol" "venom" "crawls out from under a stone" "cowardly"
That's hate-mail.

I simply do not accept that a lack of these items is a genuine example of impoverishment.

Well there's only you banging on and on and on about them. Everyone else has the understanding to see that it's not such a childishly simplistic issue as the prejudiced like to make out.

With each successive letter on this subject the poor victimised Mr Laverack shows us more and more what he really thinks.
[quote]RICHARD BRIDGE answers on behalf of Coun Simpson-Laing [/quote] Aw, sounds quite disappointed that he didn't get a response from TSL, doesn't he? Hmmmmm.... [quote]failed to include satellite TV, tattoos and body piercings as part of the “ordinary living patterns” [/quote] Maybe because he realised that tattoos and piercings last for a lifetime and may be acquired before falling into poverty? Maybe it's just a little bit prejudiced to assume that all these body adornments are fresh. [quote]I disagree with this opinion and I am entitled to do so without a barrage of hate-mail from intolerant anonymous commentators.[/quote] Where's the "barrage of hate-mail?" Again, criticism of opinion is not criticism of the person. What's so hard to understand about that? We too are entitled to comment anonymously without named correspondents of this parish writing letters packed full of nasty lies, abuse and false accusations about us. As in - [quote]http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/features/read ersletters/10738721. The_Buzz_queue/[/quote] "Vitriol" "venom" "crawls out from under a stone" "cowardly" That's hate-mail. [quote] I simply do not accept that a lack of these items is a genuine example of impoverishment.[/quote] Well there's only you banging on and on and on about them. Everyone else has the understanding to see that it's not such a childishly simplistic issue as the prejudiced like to make out. With each successive letter on this subject the poor victimised Mr Laverack shows us more and more what he really thinks. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -2

10:32pm Wed 29 Jan 14

tonyfromitaly says...

Nasty lies ? surely not . Perhaps you could clarify and elaborate this point .
Nasty lies ? surely not . Perhaps you could clarify and elaborate this point . tonyfromitaly
  • Score: -10

7:56am Thu 30 Jan 14

George Appleby says...

I like what Tom Scaife had to say! Had a head master by that name at Tang Hall Avenue school before the war. Was caned by him a couple of times, but he did a good job. Miss Richardson (with a hairy face) took us for swimming at St George's baths. Walked there and back and she dried our backs for us. Miss Masterman was a favorite. Went on to Nunthorpe during the war years.
I like what Tom Scaife had to say! Had a head master by that name at Tang Hall Avenue school before the war. Was caned by him a couple of times, but he did a good job. Miss Richardson (with a hairy face) took us for swimming at St George's baths. Walked there and back and she dried our backs for us. Miss Masterman was a favorite. Went on to Nunthorpe during the war years. George Appleby
  • Score: 2

8:35am Thu 30 Jan 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

tonyfromitaly wrote:
Nasty lies ? surely not . Perhaps you could clarify and elaborate this point .
Reading not your thing, then?
[quote][p][bold]tonyfromitaly[/bold] wrote: Nasty lies ? surely not . Perhaps you could clarify and elaborate this point .[/p][/quote]Reading not your thing, then? Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -2

4:31pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Jonthan says...

Where is Rocking Horse ?
Where is Rocking Horse ? Jonthan
  • Score: 10

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