Crying shame

Crying shame

Crying shame

First published in Letters by

IN THE Letters page of January 15, Christian Vassie asks for us all to “cool the rhetoric”, and he mentioned among other things “our housing shortage… which has much to do about failure to build more houses”.

Recently we drove down Tang Hall Lane and I counted 23 houses with to-let signs in their gardens.

Looking down the sidestreets, there were many more, and this is because they are in close proximity to the university and are lettings only for students.

These houses were built as social housing to meet the needs of families on the council housing list.

Sadly, they have been sold off at a discount price to the occupiers and have now become second homes.

What a crying shame that these lovely family homes are not available for families for whom they were intended, and as such contributes to the shortage of homes for families.

S Brown, Dunnington, York.

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11:26am Sat 18 Jan 14

George Appleby says...

The large Tang Hall estate was built to house a large influx of poor people. My dad lost his railway job in Northallerton, having served 5years in the navy as a 15 year old volunteer in 1915, straight from Grammar School. Walmgate was full of Irish immigrants. We had two rented houses and rented rooms before moving and growing up there. Things are much the same now and the need is there again.

Option one: move out the students, reopen the workhouse buildings (still standing) to feed and house them!
Option two: make the bloated, top 1 per cent cough up and pay for building all the desperately needed number 2 Tang Hall estate. QUICK!!!
The large Tang Hall estate was built to house a large influx of poor people. My dad lost his railway job in Northallerton, having served 5years in the navy as a 15 year old volunteer in 1915, straight from Grammar School. Walmgate was full of Irish immigrants. We had two rented houses and rented rooms before moving and growing up there. Things are much the same now and the need is there again. Option one: move out the students, reopen the workhouse buildings (still standing) to feed and house them! Option two: make the bloated, top 1 per cent cough up and pay for building all the desperately needed number 2 Tang Hall estate. QUICK!!! George Appleby
  • Score: 3

11:55am Sat 18 Jan 14

wallman says...

why not tell the uni that if they want students they should provide accommodation on campus
why not tell the uni that if they want students they should provide accommodation on campus wallman
  • Score: -32

1:56pm Sat 18 Jan 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing.

Option three, George: Free condoms.....
The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms..... ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -44

2:12pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing.

Option three, George: Free condoms.....
Contraception is already free.
Education, social reform.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....[/p][/quote]Contraception is already free. Education, social reform. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 47

4:28pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....
Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.
How does this address the housing shortage ?

As usual you go off plot.

Now waiting for you acerbic rant.......
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....[/p][/quote]Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.[/p][/quote]How does this address the housing shortage ? As usual you go off plot. Now waiting for you acerbic rant....... Rocking Horse
  • Score: -44

4:29pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

and a massive negative score !!!
and a massive negative score !!! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -43

5:05pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Buzzz Light-year wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....
Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.
How does this address the housing shortage ?

As usual you go off plot.

Now waiting for you acerbic rant.......
Pardon me but I was responding to a point raised by another poster, that of ColdAsChristmas.
It was he that raised the pertinent issue of population control and I responded accordingly, completely on plot.

Like asthma medication there's short term relief and there's long term prevention. Throwing up shoe boxes is your blue inhaler, population control could be the brown inhaler.

Not everything will be solved by bringing down The Big Marxist Conspiracy and I don't do acerbic rants.
Try to be a bit more polite when you're butting in, dude.
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....[/p][/quote]Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.[/p][/quote]How does this address the housing shortage ? As usual you go off plot. Now waiting for you acerbic rant.......[/p][/quote]Pardon me but I was responding to a point raised by another poster, that of ColdAsChristmas. It was he that raised the pertinent issue of population control and I responded accordingly, completely on plot. Like asthma medication there's short term relief and there's long term prevention. Throwing up shoe boxes is your blue inhaler, population control could be the brown inhaler. Not everything will be solved by bringing down The Big Marxist Conspiracy and I don't do acerbic rants. Try to be a bit more polite when you're butting in, dude. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 43

5:39pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Sillybillies says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote:
The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing.

Option three, George: Free condoms.....
Contraception is already free.
Education, social reform.
As usual a smart @rsed but utterly stupid comment. Explain how contraception is free.
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....[/p][/quote]Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.[/p][/quote]As usual a smart @rsed but utterly stupid comment. Explain how contraception is free. Sillybillies
  • Score: -38

6:30pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Sillybillies wrote:
Buzzz Light-year wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote:
The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing.

Option three, George: Free condoms.....
Contraception is already free.
Education, social reform.
As usual a smart @rsed but utterly stupid comment. Explain how contraception is free.
http://www.nhs.uk/Co
nditions/contracepti
on-guide/Pages/where
-can-i-get-contracep
tion.aspx

As usual insults from you.
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....[/p][/quote]Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.[/p][/quote]As usual a smart @rsed but utterly stupid comment. Explain how contraception is free.[/p][/quote]http://www.nhs.uk/Co nditions/contracepti on-guide/Pages/where -can-i-get-contracep tion.aspx As usual insults from you. Buzzz Light-year
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12:37am Sun 19 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
Buzzz Light-year wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....
Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.
How does this address the housing shortage ? As usual you go off plot. Now waiting for you acerbic rant.......
Pardon me but I was responding to a point raised by another poster, that of ColdAsChristmas. It was he that raised the pertinent issue of population control and I responded accordingly, completely on plot. Like asthma medication there's short term relief and there's long term prevention. Throwing up shoe boxes is your blue inhaler, population control could be the brown inhaler. Not everything will be solved by bringing down The Big Marxist Conspiracy and I don't do acerbic rants. Try to be a bit more polite when you're butting in, dude.
The immediate problem is a lack of housing, and you suggested education and social reform, not birth control.

The priority is to build the houses required, whilst simultaneously controlling the population/immigrati
on to prevent growing homelessness.

York's marxists/subversives are as way off as you with their Local Plan solution - more land is no use without more builders, and you won't get the latter until viability is restored for SME's. The council's plan to drop the affordable housing threshold to a blanket two dwellings is counter-productive. York's target of 1,080 dwellings p.a. is impossible for a decade, by which time we will have an epidemic of Dale Farms, squatting, and people living in tents !

The Council and Alexander are clueless !
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: The problem is too many people in York. 200,000 now and growing. Option three, George: Free condoms.....[/p][/quote]Contraception is already free. Education, social reform.[/p][/quote]How does this address the housing shortage ? As usual you go off plot. Now waiting for you acerbic rant.......[/p][/quote]Pardon me but I was responding to a point raised by another poster, that of ColdAsChristmas. It was he that raised the pertinent issue of population control and I responded accordingly, completely on plot. Like asthma medication there's short term relief and there's long term prevention. Throwing up shoe boxes is your blue inhaler, population control could be the brown inhaler. Not everything will be solved by bringing down The Big Marxist Conspiracy and I don't do acerbic rants. Try to be a bit more polite when you're butting in, dude.[/p][/quote]The immediate problem is a lack of housing, and you suggested education and social reform, not birth control. The priority is to build the houses required, whilst simultaneously controlling the population/immigrati on to prevent growing homelessness. York's marxists/subversives are as way off as you with their Local Plan solution - more land is no use without more builders, and you won't get the latter until viability is restored for SME's. The council's plan to drop the affordable housing threshold to a blanket two dwellings is counter-productive. York's target of 1,080 dwellings p.a. is impossible for a decade, by which time we will have an epidemic of Dale Farms, squatting, and people living in tents ! The Council and Alexander are clueless ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: -51

2:57am Sun 19 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

Looking back in hindsight, perhaps when the council sold off the Tang Hall houses, there should have been a clause put on the building that it must be lived in by its owners or direct descendants - and not occupied by a 3rd party in order to make profit from.
Looking back in hindsight, perhaps when the council sold off the Tang Hall houses, there should have been a clause put on the building that it must be lived in by its owners or direct descendants - and not occupied by a 3rd party in order to make profit from. Magicman!
  • Score: -109

10:45am Mon 20 Jan 14

York Fox says...

In many ways the students are doing you a favour, living 4, 5, or 6 to a house. Pretty sure that student housing has a higher average population density than regular families with 1.9 children (2.3 in if born outside UK).
In many ways the students are doing you a favour, living 4, 5, or 6 to a house. Pretty sure that student housing has a higher average population density than regular families with 1.9 children (2.3 in if born outside UK). York Fox
  • Score: -1

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