Selfish way to cycle

York Press: . .

NO ONE likes too much regulation or legislation; we have quite enough already, except for one area – crazy cyclists almost everyday travelling around York.

Selfish cyclists can be seen transporting young children on their two-wheeled steeds. In a classic case the other day, a woman was riding a gents-type crossbar cycle with a very young girl minus any helmet doing her best to sit on the front of the cross bar in heavy traffic.

The little girl would have not have had a chance in the event of an accident.

If adults want to kill themselves with their crazy antics, that is up to them. Urgent legislation is needed to make helmets compulsory for all young children. I am amazed these death wish adults have got away with treating their kids in this way.

Stuart Sykes, Huntington Road, York.

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9:08pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Buzzz Light-year says...

Spoof!
Spoof! Buzzz Light-year

10:32pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Igiveinthen says...

If you want an example of selfish cycling, on Christmas Eve morning about 09.30 on Hull Road, two post men riding two abreast with loaded panniers and bags chatting to each other and totally oblivious to the traffic piling up behind them, we're they bothered, not one bit, I was walking towards town but if I had been behind them in my car they would have had a good blast on the horn and a few choice words to boot!
If you want an example of selfish cycling, on Christmas Eve morning about 09.30 on Hull Road, two post men riding two abreast with loaded panniers and bags chatting to each other and totally oblivious to the traffic piling up behind them, we're they bothered, not one bit, I was walking towards town but if I had been behind them in my car they would have had a good blast on the horn and a few choice words to boot! Igiveinthen

12:46am Sat 28 Dec 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down.
Light up and live!
Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down. Light up and live! ColdAsChristmas

1:22am Sat 28 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down.
Light up and live!
My bike lights up like a christmas tree, and yet still I have drivers cutting me up... had one the other day at the Fossway/Hayleys Terrace junction - I was going at a good 20-25mph heading to Huntington with a galeforce wind behind me and a green light; a cyclist from the opposite direction turned right into Hayleys Terrace (just about had enough time), but then a white Toyota Prius then followed suit - if I had been using my other bike which doesn't have disc brakes then that ecomentalistmobile would have a bike-shaped dent on the nearside now. And I had every single light on, including a headlight which is the same brightness as a 50w halogen spotlight you use in the kitchen. So that driver could not possibly use the "I didn't see you" line, he was simply driving dangerously in a manner I see all too often - and this is not affected by whether a cyclist is lit up or not.
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down. Light up and live![/p][/quote]My bike lights up like a christmas tree, and yet still I have drivers cutting me up... had one the other day at the Fossway/Hayleys Terrace junction - I was going at a good 20-25mph heading to Huntington with a galeforce wind behind me and a green light; a cyclist from the opposite direction turned right into Hayleys Terrace (just about had enough time), but then a white Toyota Prius then followed suit - if I had been using my other bike which doesn't have disc brakes then that ecomentalistmobile would have a bike-shaped dent on the nearside now. And I had every single light on, including a headlight which is the same brightness as a 50w halogen spotlight you use in the kitchen. So that driver could not possibly use the "I didn't see you" line, he was simply driving dangerously in a manner I see all too often - and this is not affected by whether a cyclist is lit up or not. Magicman!

9:47am Sat 28 Dec 13

Mulgrave says...

Magicman! wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down.
Light up and live!
My bike lights up like a christmas tree, and yet still I have drivers cutting me up... had one the other day at the Fossway/Hayleys Terrace junction - I was going at a good 20-25mph heading to Huntington with a galeforce wind behind me and a green light; a cyclist from the opposite direction turned right into Hayleys Terrace (just about had enough time), but then a white Toyota Prius then followed suit - if I had been using my other bike which doesn't have disc brakes then that ecomentalistmobile would have a bike-shaped dent on the nearside now. And I had every single light on, including a headlight which is the same brightness as a 50w halogen spotlight you use in the kitchen. So that driver could not possibly use the "I didn't see you" line, he was simply driving dangerously in a manner I see all too often - and this is not affected by whether a cyclist is lit up or not.
....he could use the "I was blinded" argument. The reason it is illegal to use the front fog lights on a car unless visibility is below 100 meters is because the beam blinds oncoming traffic, the water vapour which is the fog is the "diffuser". I often use the argument that a cyclist will be hidden in the glare caused by the idiots who use fog lights as fashion accessories. Car headlights are strictly regulated by construction and use regulations and alignment is checked at each MOT test.

I do think cycle lighting in general needs bringing up to date, including daytime "running" lights, but a lot of what I see is not legal, especially flashing high intensity bike "headlights",- some people are affected by this type of thing, hence warnings of flash photography on the news.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down. Light up and live![/p][/quote]My bike lights up like a christmas tree, and yet still I have drivers cutting me up... had one the other day at the Fossway/Hayleys Terrace junction - I was going at a good 20-25mph heading to Huntington with a galeforce wind behind me and a green light; a cyclist from the opposite direction turned right into Hayleys Terrace (just about had enough time), but then a white Toyota Prius then followed suit - if I had been using my other bike which doesn't have disc brakes then that ecomentalistmobile would have a bike-shaped dent on the nearside now. And I had every single light on, including a headlight which is the same brightness as a 50w halogen spotlight you use in the kitchen. So that driver could not possibly use the "I didn't see you" line, he was simply driving dangerously in a manner I see all too often - and this is not affected by whether a cyclist is lit up or not.[/p][/quote]....he could use the "I was blinded" argument. The reason it is illegal to use the front fog lights on a car unless visibility is below 100 meters is because the beam blinds oncoming traffic, the water vapour which is the fog is the "diffuser". I often use the argument that a cyclist will be hidden in the glare caused by the idiots who use fog lights as fashion accessories. Car headlights are strictly regulated by construction and use regulations and alignment is checked at each MOT test. I do think cycle lighting in general needs bringing up to date, including daytime "running" lights, but a lot of what I see is not legal, especially flashing high intensity bike "headlights",- some people are affected by this type of thing, hence warnings of flash photography on the news. Mulgrave

5:37pm Sat 28 Dec 13

Igiveinthen says...

Mulgrave wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down.
Light up and live!
My bike lights up like a christmas tree, and yet still I have drivers cutting me up... had one the other day at the Fossway/Hayleys Terrace junction - I was going at a good 20-25mph heading to Huntington with a galeforce wind behind me and a green light; a cyclist from the opposite direction turned right into Hayleys Terrace (just about had enough time), but then a white Toyota Prius then followed suit - if I had been using my other bike which doesn't have disc brakes then that ecomentalistmobile would have a bike-shaped dent on the nearside now. And I had every single light on, including a headlight which is the same brightness as a 50w halogen spotlight you use in the kitchen. So that driver could not possibly use the "I didn't see you" line, he was simply driving dangerously in a manner I see all too often - and this is not affected by whether a cyclist is lit up or not.
....he could use the "I was blinded" argument. The reason it is illegal to use the front fog lights on a car unless visibility is below 100 meters is because the beam blinds oncoming traffic, the water vapour which is the fog is the "diffuser". I often use the argument that a cyclist will be hidden in the glare caused by the idiots who use fog lights as fashion accessories. Car headlights are strictly regulated by construction and use regulations and alignment is checked at each MOT test.

I do think cycle lighting in general needs bringing up to date, including daytime "running" lights, but a lot of what I see is not legal, especially flashing high intensity bike "headlights",- some people are affected by this type of thing, hence warnings of flash photography on the news.
Ladies/Gentlemen, we seem to have lost the thread of the letter writers original complaint i.e. 'selfish cycling' and gone off at tangent about cycle lighting, I commented about two post men riding two abreast, but nobody seams to think its wrong, I was taught on my cycling proficiency test to only cycle two abreast when conditions allow, I have to say it was many, many years ago, but with all the traffic on the roads today I think it's even more relevant.
[quote][p][bold]Mulgrave[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Had a couple of near miss incidents thanks to unlit cyclists in the dark. For me this is the main issue, I don't think the numbers are going down. Light up and live![/p][/quote]My bike lights up like a christmas tree, and yet still I have drivers cutting me up... had one the other day at the Fossway/Hayleys Terrace junction - I was going at a good 20-25mph heading to Huntington with a galeforce wind behind me and a green light; a cyclist from the opposite direction turned right into Hayleys Terrace (just about had enough time), but then a white Toyota Prius then followed suit - if I had been using my other bike which doesn't have disc brakes then that ecomentalistmobile would have a bike-shaped dent on the nearside now. And I had every single light on, including a headlight which is the same brightness as a 50w halogen spotlight you use in the kitchen. So that driver could not possibly use the "I didn't see you" line, he was simply driving dangerously in a manner I see all too often - and this is not affected by whether a cyclist is lit up or not.[/p][/quote]....he could use the "I was blinded" argument. The reason it is illegal to use the front fog lights on a car unless visibility is below 100 meters is because the beam blinds oncoming traffic, the water vapour which is the fog is the "diffuser". I often use the argument that a cyclist will be hidden in the glare caused by the idiots who use fog lights as fashion accessories. Car headlights are strictly regulated by construction and use regulations and alignment is checked at each MOT test. I do think cycle lighting in general needs bringing up to date, including daytime "running" lights, but a lot of what I see is not legal, especially flashing high intensity bike "headlights",- some people are affected by this type of thing, hence warnings of flash photography on the news.[/p][/quote]Ladies/Gentlemen, we seem to have lost the thread of the letter writers original complaint i.e. 'selfish cycling' and gone off at tangent about cycle lighting, I commented about two post men riding two abreast, but nobody seams to think its wrong, I was taught on my cycling proficiency test to only cycle two abreast when conditions allow, I have to say it was many, many years ago, but with all the traffic on the roads today I think it's even more relevant. Igiveinthen

7:00am Sun 29 Dec 13

pedalling paul says...

In the past, I have been castigated for riding two abreast in situations where there is plenty of space for safe overtaking. I am usually on a social/leisure ride with friends, and enjoy chatting as we pedal along. But as a group, we single out when circumstances dictate. Equally we may have to ride defensively to deter overtaking at eg the approach to a blind corner.
One overtaking driver stopped to have words with me. I asked him why his female front seat passemger was not riding in the back. .......
In the past, I have been castigated for riding two abreast in situations where there is plenty of space for safe overtaking. I am usually on a social/leisure ride with friends, and enjoy chatting as we pedal along. But as a group, we single out when circumstances dictate. Equally we may have to ride defensively to deter overtaking at eg the approach to a blind corner. One overtaking driver stopped to have words with me. I asked him why his female front seat passemger was not riding in the back. ....... pedalling paul

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