20mph rule won’t be enforced

10:32am Thursday 20th December 2012 in Letters By Reader's letter

LOOKING at the controversy regarding the proposal to cover a larger area of the city with a 20mph speed limit, the fact that there is no way that this law will be enforced must be considered.

During the recent heavy congestion in the centre, there was no visible sign of any uniformed officer to deter the misuse of the present rules or deal with the obstruction caused by inconsiderate parking.

Coppergate is probably the most obvious example of the blatant unwillingness of some motorists to comply with the restrictions.

Peter Hawley, Almond Grove, New Earswick, York.

Comments(8)

ColdAsChristmas says...
2:05pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Peter, I'll say it again, there is NO fixed penalty for 20mph and a prosecution would involve Police presenting evidence in court. I would rather Police spent that time protecting our people and property from violence and burglary for example.
Besides, paying up to a Million quid for these signs while putting up the Council tax and putting people out of work is totally mad.
In much of York you are lucky if you can get to 20mph during the day anyway.

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Anthony Smith says...
5:36pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Same applies for a 30mph speed limit.

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Buzz Light-year says...
8:48pm Thu 20 Dec 12

Oh look a 20s Plenty letter.
Two innocuous comments.

Wonder why the last one was comment-free?

No councillors are named here... coincidence?

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capt spaulding says...
10:32pm Thu 20 Dec 12

There are an alarming number of topics that we are not able to comment on. Mainly though matters appertaining to council business.

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ColdAsChristmas says...
3:47am Fri 21 Dec 12

Anthony, there is a fixed penalty for breaking the 30mph limit, a fast track through the system and not available for 20 mph.

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Anthony Smith says...
9:53am Fri 21 Dec 12

ColdAsChristmas - I've had a quick search, and I can't find that distinction between 20mph/30mph for fixed penalties. Could you provide a link?

Here's one saying that fixed penalties are appropriate in a 20mph area for speeds between 24 and 35mph, above which a summons would be issued:

http://www.cps.gov.u
k/legal/p_to_r/road_
traffic_offences_gui
dance_on_fixed_penal
ty_notices/

Search for "20 30 mph fixed penalty" and you'll find plenty more like that.

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last of the mandms says...
4:45pm Fri 21 Dec 12

How long has the criteria for lawmaking been how difficult it is to enforce? Complex financial frauds are difficult to enforce for example, but surely you can't seriously believe that the answer is to make them legal?

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ColdAsChristmas says...
2:40am Mon 24 Dec 12

Anthony, I checked into this around 8 years ago when a local road acquired 20 mph status without wider consensus.
At that time there was no 20 mph fixed penalty. If the law has changed (By stealth) then I of course stand corrected.
It would appear that the rules have changed, though I have yet to see a speed camera in a 20mph zone.
Merry Christmas.

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