The long way round

I READ the letter from Barry Rennison (Letters December 1) where he asks why “are there no local tradesmen in York?”, referring to City of York Council.

It was not too long ago that late one evening, three concrete lamp posts mysteriously, and suddenly fell down in our street, and the council were informed, but to our surprise the repair men came from Newcastle.

They came in the middle of the night to remove the old lampposts, and then came a few days later to fit new metal ones.

What a journey they must have had in their van, 100 miles from Newcastle to York, then 100 miles back again. What a waste of time. These guys must have been driving five hours to work for one hour. Where have all the local workmen gone, I wonder?

Stuart Wilson, Vesper Drive, Acomb, York.

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7:20pm Tue 4 Dec 12

roadwars says...

And our council tax pays for their transport, wages, tools, spares, their bosses bonus, shareholders dividends, christmas night out......
But, if it wasn't like that then the council would have to employ more people and nobody likes a drain on resources such as a public sector worker.
And our council tax pays for their transport, wages, tools, spares, their bosses bonus, shareholders dividends, christmas night out...... But, if it wasn't like that then the council would have to employ more people and nobody likes a drain on resources such as a public sector worker. roadwars
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11:30pm Wed 5 Dec 12

PKH says...

Councils have to tender for work, and if a firm from miles away puts in the lowest bid and meets all the contract requirements then they have little alternative but to go with that firm
Councils have to tender for work, and if a firm from miles away puts in the lowest bid and meets all the contract requirements then they have little alternative but to go with that firm PKH
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9:17am Thu 6 Dec 12

Burkett swish pack says...

The chap who came from Newcastle works for N.E.D.L they are this areas' power supplier and only their workforce can work on their equipment.
The replacement lam posts would have erected by CYC' s contractor Amey who at that time had their depot In Poppleton, ( those lads could have walked and brought the columns on their shoulders !)

A little bit of misguided information can be dangerous.

Another point, lots of people moaned about the removal of unsafe lamppost, has there been any positives comments about the way the replacement programme has been carried out?
From what I've seen they have done a good job.

Just a thought
The chap who came from Newcastle works for N.E.D.L they are this areas' power supplier and only their workforce can work on their equipment. The replacement lam posts would have erected by CYC' s contractor Amey who at that time had their depot In Poppleton, ( those lads could have walked and brought the columns on their shoulders !) A little bit of misguided information can be dangerous. Another point, lots of people moaned about the removal of unsafe lamppost, has there been any positives comments about the way the replacement programme has been carried out? From what I've seen they have done a good job. Just a thought Burkett swish pack
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3:43am Fri 7 Dec 12

Magicman! says...

^ you beat me to it. Amey does not have a depot in Newcastle. When there is a bulk load of work required (such as the recent concrete column replacements around the city) extra crews are drafted in from Wakefield who are used to PFI work and so can sweep an area with some speed. At one point during the works there was two HIAB cranes in Haxby pulling out old columns and another one over in Elvington area planting new ones, in addition to two vans putting lanterns on the new columns.

The job described in the letter will have required the supply to be isolated, and because it is unswitched only qualified jointers such as those NEDL use (or another company, NDS, which is part of Amey and was used during the bulk works) are legally allowed to even touch these live cables, and so if there are no qualified persons locally who can attend an emergency callout, then somebody will have to be called in from where ever possible. If the old columns either fail above or can be cut above the access door section, Amey can do this and leave the stumps until a new column is connected.... if the base section is badly damaged the work has to be outsourced, I believe, from what I have seen.

I think the new lighting that has gone up over the past year or so is doing the job well. My only thought is that on some roads such as Stonebow where a new column has gone up, the new lantern runs a sodium light whilst the others were converted to white light, and so we get a nice white road with a random orange patch.
^ you beat me to it. Amey does not have a depot in Newcastle. When there is a bulk load of work required (such as the recent concrete column replacements around the city) extra crews are drafted in from Wakefield who are used to PFI work and so can sweep an area with some speed. At one point during the works there was two HIAB cranes in Haxby pulling out old columns and another one over in Elvington area planting new ones, in addition to two vans putting lanterns on the new columns. The job described in the letter will have required the supply to be isolated, and because it is unswitched only qualified jointers such as those NEDL use (or another company, NDS, which is part of Amey and was used during the bulk works) are legally allowed to even touch these live cables, and so if there are no qualified persons locally who can attend an emergency callout, then somebody will have to be called in from where ever possible. If the old columns either fail above or can be cut above the access door section, Amey can do this and leave the stumps until a new column is connected.... if the base section is badly damaged the work has to be outsourced, I believe, from what I have seen. I think the new lighting that has gone up over the past year or so is doing the job well. My only thought is that on some roads such as Stonebow where a new column has gone up, the new lantern runs a sodium light whilst the others were converted to white light, and so we get a nice white road with a random orange patch. Magicman!
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