This big loss to the church is just so sad (From York Press)
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This big loss to the church is just so sad
9:47am Friday 23rd November 2012 in Letters By Readers' letters
SOMEWHERE in the aftermath of the General Synod vote on women in the Episcopate, I came across an unexpected scene.
Unseen by the reporters and television cameras waiting outside Church House in Westminster, a crying man was being comforted by a female priest.
I wasn’t close enough to hear what she said, but I imagine it was something like, “Don’t worry, it’ll be fine; we’ll get there in the end.”
The Church of England has already expressed its commitment to appointing women as bishops and thus receiving the ministry and leadership of women in every area and level of church life.
York Minster’s new Dean is a woman, as is the new acting Archdeacon and many of the York clergy. Christian women and men “from the pews” work together without discrimination in many ministries.
Yes, these legal delays are hugely frustrating. It will take several more years before this change can happen, mainly because it requires a new Parliamentary law and a change in the written beliefs of the church. Sadly, this delay will affect a few senior women clergy who would have become bishops in the next few years. I know some of these women and it is our loss. For now, I will remind our church this Sunday that we remain committed to training, encouraging, releasing and benefiting from the ministry of women without partiality in local church life across the diocese.
The Rev Christian Selvaratnam, Member of the General Synod of the Church of England, Assistant Curate, St Michael-le-Belfrey Church, York.
• ROWAN WILLIAMS finds the decision not to accept women bishops as “unintelligible” and “wilfully blind”. He decided exactly the same throughout his tenure as Archbishop of Canterbury, by knowingly and wilfully supporting misuses of power.
The established Church is required by secular law to allow anyone, including Jews and Muslims, to be buried in Church of England burial grounds, where grave spaces still exist.
However, he remained content to force those of other religions to exercise their legal rights, only on the strict and presumably unlawful condition, that they accept that their names be recorded as Christian names.
If he had agreed to allow in such circumstances, the neutral recording of “full name”, he would have eliminated hypocrisy at the stroke of a pen and demonstrated true respect and dignity for all faiths.
Representatives of the established church, be they female or male, should prove that at the very least, they have the intelligence to practise what they preach, even if as quasi public servants, some conceal a preference for hypocrisy and a misuse of powers.
Andro Joiner, Knox Road, Harrogate.
Comments(12)
Zetkin
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12:25pm Fri 23 Nov 12
*Other sexist religions are available
ColdAsChristmas
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3:08pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Former MP Miss Ann Widecombe left the C Of E to become a Catholic following the ordination of women.
Now turn your attack on Islam where women do get a raw deal. (If you dare)
Sillybillies
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4:48pm Fri 23 Nov 12
PinzaC55
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5:06pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Sillybillies wrote:Or better still look forward to the end of religion and the royal family, two albatrosses round the neck of Britain.
Now would be a good time to disestablish the Church of England so it can carry on with its discrimination against women without the apparent support of the Monarch and the State.
last of the mandms
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6:50pm Fri 23 Nov 12
Sillybillies wrote:Quite right the Anglican Church exercises an influence grossly disproportionate to it's membership.
Now would be a good time to disestablish the Church of England so it can carry on with its discrimination against women without the apparent support of the Monarch and the State.
ColdAsChristmas
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5:13pm Sat 24 Nov 12
'Now would be a good time to disestablish' them.
Ageing Hippy
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6:39pm Sat 24 Nov 12
PinzaC55 wrote:"Hear Hear" It amazes me that in this day and age people are still being duped into believing in religion of any kind. Parasites, peadophiles and crossdressing masogynists.
Sillybillies wrote:Or better still look forward to the end of religion and the royal family, two albatrosses round the neck of Britain.
Now would be a good time to disestablish the Church of England so it can carry on with its discrimination against women without the apparent support of the Monarch and the State.
inthesticks
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7:30pm Sat 24 Nov 12
Ageing Hippy wrote:Bishops have a heavy burden - they have to sit in The Lords with Baroness Warsi.
PinzaC55 wrote:"Hear Hear" It amazes me that in this day and age people are still being duped into believing in religion of any kind. Parasites, peadophiles and crossdressing masogynists.
Sillybillies wrote:Or better still look forward to the end of religion and the royal family, two albatrosses round the neck of Britain.
Now would be a good time to disestablish the Church of England so it can carry on with its discrimination against women without the apparent support of the Monarch and the State.
PinzaC55
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8:51pm Sat 24 Nov 12
hendom
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10:49am Sun 25 Nov 12
last of the mandms
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11:57am Sun 25 Nov 12
ColdAsChristmas wrote:Mornington Crescent?
So does the Green Party!
'Now would be a good time to disestablish' them.
ColdAsChristmas says...
11:51am Fri 23 Nov 12
Being a Bishop does not make a woman equal to man, it is simply an appointment.
The late Cardinal Basil Hume spoke as to why he was against women priests before he died. He said it was that in the holy sacrament the priest is representative of the body of Christ. I gave this some thought and concluded that he indeed did have a point.
I suspect within the years ahead we will see a demand for a female Arch Bishop of Canterbury and the demise of the Cof E. It appears that from this vote nobody has asked the congregation, the laity are the closest to that.
The Queen is female, so is CoYC chief executive and indeed the Home Secretary. Is nothing sacred?