Millions needed to upgrade York's flood defences

Flooding in Fulford Road in 2012

Flooding in Fulford Road in 2012

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MILLIONS of pounds need to be spent on bolstering York's flood defences, a new report has revealed.

A long-awaited draft Flood Risk Management strategy has finally been produced by City of York Council, in conjunction with key partners including the Environment Agency and Yorkshire Water.

It proposes a list of measures including schemes to improve defences along the River Ouse and River Foss, such as upgrades to the Foss Barrier pumps, the renovation of flood gates and improvements to existing flood banks.

It also suggests measures to help prevent surface water flooding, including ensuring that planning decisions properly address all aspects of flood risk and that surface water flows are managed and controlled in a sustainable manner.

The strategy, which will be taken to a Cabinet meeting next week for approval to take to consultation, follows the severe floods in 2007 across the UK, including York, which affected over 55,000 homes and businesses causing over £3billion worth of damage nationwide.

The Flood and Water Management Act of 2010 gave the council major new responsibilities and local flood risk management duties.

Cabinet member Cllr Dave Merrett said the strategy was an important next step in planning how flood risk in York could be addressed, adding:"It highlights the challenge we face but also the need for significantly more investment at a national level to help tackle this issue.”

Proposed spending includes an estimated £2 million on an upgrade of the Foss Barrier and pumping station, which protects thousands of properties alongside the River Foss by preventing floodwaters from backing up the river from the Ouse.

Another £3.5 million is needed for an appraisal and replacement of the Burdyke and Holgate pumping station, £1.5 million for the restoration of the Clifton Ings barrier bank and £5 million on developing and delivering a range of measures to reduce the impact of flooding in unprotected areas of York, such as Bishopthorpe, Acaster Malbis, Fulford, Clementhorpe, Naburn, Kings Staith and Tower Street and Nether Poppleton.

The report says close working and coordination is required between the council and the Environment Agency, and there needs to be work with residents and businesses to deliver "collectively funded protection measures."

Almost half a million pounds a year also needs to be spent on a maintenance programme for existing defences and upstream management.

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10:54am Tue 2 Sep 14

York2000 says...

'A long-awaited draft Flood Risk Management strategy has finally been produced by City of York Council,'

Nicely worded to wind you all up. Here we go!
'A long-awaited draft Flood Risk Management strategy has finally been produced by City of York Council,' Nicely worded to wind you all up. Here we go! York2000
  • Score: 27

11:11am Tue 2 Sep 14

Ichabod76 says...

it was commissioned in 2010 I would call that "long awaited"
Are you not throwing personal insults around today ? Or do you just save them for tory councillors ?
it was commissioned in 2010 I would call that "long awaited" Are you not throwing personal insults around today ? Or do you just save them for tory councillors ? Ichabod76
  • Score: -44

11:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

York2000 says...

Like I said last week - We all need to grow up a little on here. So no insults.

Will you lot be able to not personally insult the current council leader? Probably not.
Like I said last week - We all need to grow up a little on here. So no insults. Will you lot be able to not personally insult the current council leader? Probably not. York2000
  • Score: 37

11:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

AGuyFromStresall says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
it was commissioned in 2010 I would call that "long awaited"
Are you not throwing personal insults around today ? Or do you just save them for tory councillors ?
Nah he just likes to jump in first moaning about people moaning (without a hint of irony...)
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: it was commissioned in 2010 I would call that "long awaited" Are you not throwing personal insults around today ? Or do you just save them for tory councillors ?[/p][/quote]Nah he just likes to jump in first moaning about people moaning (without a hint of irony...) AGuyFromStresall
  • Score: -38

11:43am Tue 2 Sep 14

York2000 says...

I am trying to help you all. You'll thank me one day.
I am trying to help you all. You'll thank me one day. York2000
  • Score: 42

12:28pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Mullarkian says...

Where does all this diverted flood water go? I mean the same amount comes down every year, are we just creating a problem for someone else?
Where does all this diverted flood water go? I mean the same amount comes down every year, are we just creating a problem for someone else? Mullarkian
  • Score: 23

4:56pm Tue 2 Sep 14

TheTruthHurts says...

York2000 wrote:
Like I said last week - We all need to grow up a little on here. So no insults.

Will you lot be able to not personally insult the current council leader? Probably not.
Surely its impossible not to insult him?

For example, he is not very good at his job, he is not very good looking, he has a poor dress sense, His personal finances are a mess, he isnt married.

These are all pretty honest facts yet for him, he would consider some of them insulting. Someone else might not etc :-)
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: Like I said last week - We all need to grow up a little on here. So no insults. Will you lot be able to not personally insult the current council leader? Probably not.[/p][/quote]Surely its impossible not to insult him? For example, he is not very good at his job, he is not very good looking, he has a poor dress sense, His personal finances are a mess, he isnt married. These are all pretty honest facts yet for him, he would consider some of them insulting. Someone else might not etc :-) TheTruthHurts
  • Score: -11

6:11pm Tue 2 Sep 14

nottoooldtocare says...

Mullarkian wrote:
Where does all this diverted flood water go? I mean the same amount comes down every year, are we just creating a problem for someone else?
Well once all the floodbanks fall down the flood water will go where it likes. why will they fall down? because the environment agency have decided they don't do any good so will not be doing any maintaining of them in the years to come.
Germany Beck building proposal would take the Fulford road out of the flood, but nobody wants it so they will flood for many more years. The Poppleton area only has the road flooded and the odd house so nothing too big there. As for Kings Staith and Tower Street, they looked at these a few years ago and the pub didn't want protecting and there is too much architectural interest, so megga bucks if they find something. so a lot of fuss about nothing really.
[quote][p][bold]Mullarkian[/bold] wrote: Where does all this diverted flood water go? I mean the same amount comes down every year, are we just creating a problem for someone else?[/p][/quote]Well once all the floodbanks fall down the flood water will go where it likes. why will they fall down? because the environment agency have decided they don't do any good so will not be doing any maintaining of them in the years to come. Germany Beck building proposal would take the Fulford road out of the flood, but nobody wants it so they will flood for many more years. The Poppleton area only has the road flooded and the odd house so nothing too big there. As for Kings Staith and Tower Street, they looked at these a few years ago and the pub didn't want protecting and there is too much architectural interest, so megga bucks if they find something. so a lot of fuss about nothing really. nottoooldtocare
  • Score: 13

7:13pm Tue 2 Sep 14

York2000 says...

TheTruthHurts - Meany! ;-)
TheTruthHurts - Meany! ;-) York2000
  • Score: 4

7:29pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Dave Ruddock says...

the environment agency just finished the Clifton area defenses and now this. Both rivers are in deed of deep cleaning, dredging. The 2000 flooding showed what happens when little work was done the the Foss Gates and the flood defenses , Its Implementation not strategy... Is that True "nottoooldtocare" if so 2 years on defenses for Fourth Street area then leave it for ever .
the environment agency just finished the Clifton area defenses and now this. Both rivers are in deed of deep cleaning, dredging. The 2000 flooding showed what happens when little work was done the the Foss Gates and the flood defenses , Its Implementation not strategy... Is that True "nottoooldtocare" if so 2 years on defenses for Fourth Street area then leave it for ever . Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 9

8:06pm Tue 2 Sep 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Stick a few more short set traffic lights up Mr Merrett that will solve our problems. Think I am joking?

A programme on BBC2 a few weeks ago - Cloud Lab - says this could be true. Having sent scientists up in and airship which a shed load of instruments to measure the effect clouds have on our weather the conclusion, using simple easily understood science and terms, was clean clouds let more heat through to the earth than dirty polluted ones and hence we get warm wet weather. This was backed up by overlaying a weather chart on a pollution chart which shows when we have pollution we have less extreme wet weather. So the more we clean up the worse it will get. Loved the look on the scientist face when she had to say this and could see her career going down the pan and being labelled a loony.

So back to my original statement. As Mr Merrett has proved with his anti car measures he has managed to increase pollution in York by as much as 48% thus helping to save us from the worst of the wet weather.

By the way has Mr Merrett resigned yet? I am guessing no.
Stick a few more short set traffic lights up Mr Merrett that will solve our problems. Think I am joking? A programme on BBC2 a few weeks ago - Cloud Lab - says this could be true. Having sent scientists up in and airship which a shed load of instruments to measure the effect clouds have on our weather the conclusion, using simple easily understood science and terms, was clean clouds let more heat through to the earth than dirty polluted ones and hence we get warm wet weather. This was backed up by overlaying a weather chart on a pollution chart which shows when we have pollution we have less extreme wet weather. So the more we clean up the worse it will get. Loved the look on the scientist face when she had to say this and could see her career going down the pan and being labelled a loony. So back to my original statement. As Mr Merrett has proved with his anti car measures he has managed to increase pollution in York by as much as 48% thus helping to save us from the worst of the wet weather. By the way has Mr Merrett resigned yet? I am guessing no. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -11

11:16pm Tue 2 Sep 14

strangebuttrue? says...

I must admit I am feeling quite special by the attention I am getting from the score adjusting thing. My ego is growing by the minute must comment more.
I must admit I am feeling quite special by the attention I am getting from the score adjusting thing. My ego is growing by the minute must comment more. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -18

12:55am Wed 3 Sep 14

strangebuttrue? says...

What's this then the score adjusting thing getting clever by changing my score from a huge negative to a positive after I comment on it's work or is it that a very large number agree with what I said?? Must try this elsewhere then.
What's this then the score adjusting thing getting clever by changing my score from a huge negative to a positive after I comment on it's work or is it that a very large number agree with what I said?? Must try this elsewhere then. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -22

6:58am Wed 3 Sep 14

eeoodares says...

York2000 wrote:
'A long-awaited draft Flood Risk Management strategy has finally been produced by City of York Council,'

Nicely worded to wind you all up. Here we go!
You seem to be the one that gets 'wound up' whenever the paper prints anything about the Council? In fact you seem to get 'wound up' when anybody mentions the Council. Why do you react so badly when people mention the Council???
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: 'A long-awaited draft Flood Risk Management strategy has finally been produced by City of York Council,' Nicely worded to wind you all up. Here we go![/p][/quote]You seem to be the one that gets 'wound up' whenever the paper prints anything about the Council? In fact you seem to get 'wound up' when anybody mentions the Council. Why do you react so badly when people mention the Council??? eeoodares
  • Score: -19

7:28am Wed 3 Sep 14

notpedallingpaul says...

York2000 wrote:
Like I said last week - We all need to grow up a little on here. So no insults.

Will you lot be able to not personally insult the current council leader? Probably not.
I believe it's you that needs to grow up, you were the one that posted the comment about pigs feeding in a trough - or words to that effect - a thoroughly disgraceful comment by any standards.
I don't believe you are a true representative of the many loyal labour supporters, who are fighting a loosing battle with the incompetent leadership of this encumbent council.
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: Like I said last week - We all need to grow up a little on here. So no insults. Will you lot be able to not personally insult the current council leader? Probably not.[/p][/quote]I believe it's you that needs to grow up, you were the one that posted the comment about pigs feeding in a trough - or words to that effect - a thoroughly disgraceful comment by any standards. I don't believe you are a true representative of the many loyal labour supporters, who are fighting a loosing battle with the incompetent leadership of this encumbent council. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -34

7:50am Wed 3 Sep 14

munstombo says...

This is relatively low cost work.

Is enough been done in upland areas to hold back water before slow release?
This is relatively low cost work. Is enough been done in upland areas to hold back water before slow release? munstombo
  • Score: 0

8:08am Wed 3 Sep 14

BertieBrompton says...

Madness! Why are they still building on Germany Beck then?!
Madness! Why are they still building on Germany Beck then?! BertieBrompton
  • Score: 1

8:16am Wed 3 Sep 14

BertieBrompton says...

Council Plan
11. Through the safeguarding of existing and protection of future communities, the strategy supports the following priorities:
Create jobs and grow the economy Build strong communities
Get York Moving
Protect the environment

http://democracy.yor
k.gov.uk/documents/s
91501/Local%20Flood%
20Risk%20Management%
20Strategy%20Cabinet
%20Report%20090914.p
df

"Protect the environment"........
.. they are having a laugh!
Council Plan 11. Through the safeguarding of existing and protection of future communities, the strategy supports the following priorities: Create jobs and grow the economy Build strong communities Get York Moving Protect the environment http://democracy.yor k.gov.uk/documents/s 91501/Local%20Flood% 20Risk%20Management% 20Strategy%20Cabinet %20Report%20090914.p df "Protect the environment"........ .. they are having a laugh! BertieBrompton
  • Score: 2

8:39am Wed 3 Sep 14

BertieBrompton says...

http://democracy.yor
k.gov.uk/documents/s
91502/Annex%201%20-%
20Local%20Flood%20Ri
sk%20Management%20St
rategy.pdf

6.7.2

The role of the planning authority in flood risk management is:
To avoid inappropriate development in areas at risk of flooding

!!!!!!!!!
http://democracy.yor k.gov.uk/documents/s 91502/Annex%201%20-% 20Local%20Flood%20Ri sk%20Management%20St rategy.pdf 6.7.2 The role of the planning authority in flood risk management is: To avoid inappropriate development in areas at risk of flooding !!!!!!!!! BertieBrompton
  • Score: 3

6:29pm Wed 3 Sep 14

nottoooldtocare says...

BertieBrompton wrote:
Madness! Why are they still building on Germany Beck then?!
Because Bertie the development area itself doesn't flood and you know it. Building or development on that site would have provided money for the A19 to be raised and protected keeping it open during the larger floods. The consultants acting for the developer worked with the COY planners, the drainage board and environment agency to look at drainage from the site, what areas were at risk to flooding and what could be done to offset this. The fact that people in the area don't want this area developing is one thing, but the evidence says it the new devlopment is not at risk. Allow the development and you can keep the road open.
[quote][p][bold]BertieBrompton[/bold] wrote: Madness! Why are they still building on Germany Beck then?![/p][/quote]Because Bertie the development area itself doesn't flood and you know it. Building or development on that site would have provided money for the A19 to be raised and protected keeping it open during the larger floods. The consultants acting for the developer worked with the COY planners, the drainage board and environment agency to look at drainage from the site, what areas were at risk to flooding and what could be done to offset this. The fact that people in the area don't want this area developing is one thing, but the evidence says it the new devlopment is not at risk. Allow the development and you can keep the road open. nottoooldtocare
  • Score: -1

12:26am Thu 4 Sep 14

strangebuttrue? says...

nottoooldtocare wrote:
BertieBrompton wrote:
Madness! Why are they still building on Germany Beck then?!
Because Bertie the development area itself doesn't flood and you know it. Building or development on that site would have provided money for the A19 to be raised and protected keeping it open during the larger floods. The consultants acting for the developer worked with the COY planners, the drainage board and environment agency to look at drainage from the site, what areas were at risk to flooding and what could be done to offset this. The fact that people in the area don't want this area developing is one thing, but the evidence says it the new devlopment is not at risk. Allow the development and you can keep the road open.
The road is already being dealt with through funding from the pinch point fund. This funding which was initially denied was later approved. trouble is it is another Mr Merrett anti car scheme which involves narrowing the road putting in bus lanes and more traffic lights. The bid clearly states that traffic will be held just before the P&R site thus creating a pinch point.

As is characteristic of all schemes which Mr Merrett has a hand in, by the time they have finished, what he calls improvements, the road may as well be flooded all the time. Wait and see.
[quote][p][bold]nottoooldtocare[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BertieBrompton[/bold] wrote: Madness! Why are they still building on Germany Beck then?![/p][/quote]Because Bertie the development area itself doesn't flood and you know it. Building or development on that site would have provided money for the A19 to be raised and protected keeping it open during the larger floods. The consultants acting for the developer worked with the COY planners, the drainage board and environment agency to look at drainage from the site, what areas were at risk to flooding and what could be done to offset this. The fact that people in the area don't want this area developing is one thing, but the evidence says it the new devlopment is not at risk. Allow the development and you can keep the road open.[/p][/quote]The road is already being dealt with through funding from the pinch point fund. This funding which was initially denied was later approved. trouble is it is another Mr Merrett anti car scheme which involves narrowing the road putting in bus lanes and more traffic lights. The bid clearly states that traffic will be held just before the P&R site thus creating a pinch point. As is characteristic of all schemes which Mr Merrett has a hand in, by the time they have finished, what he calls improvements, the road may as well be flooded all the time. Wait and see. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -24

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