York stores report rise in festive sales

York Press: Shoppers enjoy the sales in York, where stores have reported a rise in trade Shoppers enjoy the sales in York, where stores have reported a rise in trade

YORK’S retail scene has experienced its best post-recession Christmas, bucking national trends.

Several of York’s leading independent retailers have seen a rise in takings over 2013’s festivities, compared to last year.

The news is backed up by newly released footfall figures for December, which are the highest ever recorded by the camera in Parliament Street, showing a rise of 7.2 per cent from last year.

Nicholas Brown, managing director of Browns in Davygate, said visitor numbers were up and that had been reflected in increased turnover. He said: “The last two years have been difficult, but it’s good to see there is hope in terms of the economy. This has been the best Christmas since the recession as we see more confidence coming back.“People have been very prudent over the last few years, but because they have been sensible looking after their budgets in the past we are now seeing that paying off with growth this Christmas.

“We have seen increased figures across all our departments. Even menswear is up; that is a good indicator of things recovering when menswear picks up.”

Adam Sinclair, managing director of Mulberry Hall, in Stonegate, said: “We have been very pleased with business in store and on line.

“We have seen a particularly strong growth online, but we have also been encouraged by people’s desire for Mulberry Hall’s traditional shopping environment.

“We are slightly ahead of last year, and it’s great to see figures going in the right direction. It is a very challenging time for retail irrelevant of being in a recession or coming out of one, but this certainly has been a very encouraging Christmas.”

City of York Council welcomed the rise in footfall, which has pushed total figures to the highest ever recorded for December since the camera was installed in 2009.

The current figures, taken from December 1 to 22, are recorded from a camera in Parliament Street which was activated 636,625 times over the period.

The figure is an increase from last year when it was activated 593,915 times, and is also higher than 2011 when the figure was 617,871.

Coun Tracey Simpson-Laing, deputy leader of the council said: “These figures demonstrate that the strong retail and cultural offering that the city centre has continues to draw residents and visitors at this time of year.”

York Retail Forum chairman Frank Wood, who also owns Braithwaite Jewellers in Goodramgate, believes trade has been boosted by kinder weather conditions and reported a ten per cent rise in takings.

He said: “I won’t know the full picture for York until the Forum meets in January to discuss Christmas trading but as far as we are concerned we are ten per cent up on last year, which is great news.

“The last two years have been particularly difficult because of the weather, and there is nothing more off-putting to shoppers than bad weather. This year has been much kinder to us, and we are already seeing the benefit of that.”

National reports say three quarters of British retailers discounted their prices ahead of Christmas, by an average of 46 per cent, but shopper numbers were down by 5.7 per cent last week nationally compared to last year.

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10:52am Thu 26 Dec 13

Art Baker says...

Be interesting to hear what the idiot from the perfume shop has to say about this. If his takings are down, it's his business to blame, not Lendal Bridge closure.
Be interesting to hear what the idiot from the perfume shop has to say about this. If his takings are down, it's his business to blame, not Lendal Bridge closure. Art Baker

10:59am Thu 26 Dec 13

Jonthan says...

According to those opposed to the restrictions on Lendal Bridge, shoppers were to have stayed away from York in droves.
They will wriggle of course, and try to make the best of a bad job, - recession is ending, etc. Nevertheless the fact is that the bridge restrictions are in place and the city business are thriving. Exactly the opposite of what the Jeremiah's predicted

There will no doubt be some novel attempts to square the circle
According to those opposed to the restrictions on Lendal Bridge, shoppers were to have stayed away from York in droves. They will wriggle of course, and try to make the best of a bad job, - recession is ending, etc. Nevertheless the fact is that the bridge restrictions are in place and the city business are thriving. Exactly the opposite of what the Jeremiah's predicted There will no doubt be some novel attempts to square the circle Jonthan

11:17am Thu 26 Dec 13

Art Baker says...

Jonthan wrote:
According to those opposed to the restrictions on Lendal Bridge, shoppers were to have stayed away from York in droves.
They will wriggle of course, and try to make the best of a bad job, - recession is ending, etc. Nevertheless the fact is that the bridge restrictions are in place and the city business are thriving. Exactly the opposite of what the Jeremiah's predicted

There will no doubt be some novel attempts to square the circle
Prize for the first 'Yes, but business would have been better if the bridge were not restricted' comment? Of course, that would be speculation as valid as any claim that it is better because of the restriction. Latter would be unthinkable!
[quote][p][bold]Jonthan[/bold] wrote: According to those opposed to the restrictions on Lendal Bridge, shoppers were to have stayed away from York in droves. They will wriggle of course, and try to make the best of a bad job, - recession is ending, etc. Nevertheless the fact is that the bridge restrictions are in place and the city business are thriving. Exactly the opposite of what the Jeremiah's predicted There will no doubt be some novel attempts to square the circle[/p][/quote]Prize for the first 'Yes, but business would have been better if the bridge were not restricted' comment? Of course, that would be speculation as valid as any claim that it is better because of the restriction. Latter would be unthinkable! Art Baker

12:03pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Oaklands Resident says...

Would have been surprising, given the mild weather and improving economy, if City centre trade hadn't increased over recent weeks.

I don't understand why the article doesn't include trading figures for the Designer Centre and Monks Cross? That would provide a better point of comparison than, unspecific, national retail trends

As has already been pointed out, the footfall figures have been influenced by the siting of the stalls in Parliament Street.

Numbers were down by 18% up to the time that the St Nicholas Fayre started.

The January/February figures will be very interesting.
Would have been surprising, given the mild weather and improving economy, if City centre trade hadn't increased over recent weeks. I don't understand why the article doesn't include trading figures for the Designer Centre and Monks Cross? That would provide a better point of comparison than, unspecific, national retail trends As has already been pointed out, the footfall figures have been influenced by the siting of the stalls in Parliament Street. Numbers were down by 18% up to the time that the St Nicholas Fayre started. The January/February figures will be very interesting. Oaklands Resident

12:45pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Digeorge says...

Wonder how many people will be unable to 'afford' the credit card payments when due in March and then find there is an increase in interest rates?

No doubt some of it will be paid from Wonga.com (not me).
Wonder how many people will be unable to 'afford' the credit card payments when due in March and then find there is an increase in interest rates? No doubt some of it will be paid from Wonga.com (not me). Digeorge

12:52pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Lunatic says...

So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy... Lunatic

1:42pm Thu 26 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. eeoodares

1:58pm Thu 26 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

Art Baker wrote:
Be interesting to hear what the idiot from the perfume shop has to say about this. If his takings are down, it's his business to blame, not Lendal Bridge closure.
What a charming statement, you really must be a pleasure to be around.
[quote][p][bold]Art Baker[/bold] wrote: Be interesting to hear what the idiot from the perfume shop has to say about this. If his takings are down, it's his business to blame, not Lendal Bridge closure.[/p][/quote]What a charming statement, you really must be a pleasure to be around. eeoodares

1:59pm Thu 26 Dec 13

GooseTrackLane says...

This just cannot be true. You can't drive over Lendal Bridge during the day, so it is physically impossible to access any of the shops in the city centre.

Must must must be lies. This is more clear evidence of a huge CONSPIRACY. The figures are invented. York has become a ghost town.
This just cannot be true. You can't drive over Lendal Bridge during the day, so it is physically impossible to access any of the shops in the city centre. Must must must be lies. This is more clear evidence of a huge CONSPIRACY. The figures are invented. York has become a ghost town. GooseTrackLane

2:16pm Thu 26 Dec 13

mmarshal says...

eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Have to agree and also with the comment regarding the recent mild weather and traveling conditions. Having seen the scores of visitors breach the Lendal Bridge 'restricted access' I have to wonder how the high number of fines will be reflected in the loss of returning visitors and tourists.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]Have to agree and also with the comment regarding the recent mild weather and traveling conditions. Having seen the scores of visitors breach the Lendal Bridge 'restricted access' I have to wonder how the high number of fines will be reflected in the loss of returning visitors and tourists. mmarshal

2:16pm Thu 26 Dec 13

mmarshal says...

eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Have to agree and also with the comment regarding the recent mild weather and traveling conditions. Having seen the scores of visitors breach the Lendal Bridge 'restricted access' I have to wonder how the high number of fines will be reflected in the loss of returning visitors and tourists.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]Have to agree and also with the comment regarding the recent mild weather and traveling conditions. Having seen the scores of visitors breach the Lendal Bridge 'restricted access' I have to wonder how the high number of fines will be reflected in the loss of returning visitors and tourists. mmarshal

4:07pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Caecilius says...

eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge. Caecilius

4:09pm Thu 26 Dec 13

bloodaxe says...

Takings up ? Bucking the national trend ? I blame the Council, Lendal Bridge closure, the last Labour government, the weather, Europe, immigrants oh, anybody.
Takings up ? Bucking the national trend ? I blame the Council, Lendal Bridge closure, the last Labour government, the weather, Europe, immigrants oh, anybody. bloodaxe

4:12pm Thu 26 Dec 13

bloodaxe says...

Caecilius wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.[/p][/quote]Well said. bloodaxe

4:16pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Digeorge says...

I guess it is a case of factitiously creating the figures on the counters today rather like this Government!

And a case of 'spend till you drop'….

Ssh, you have the bill to pay some day!
I guess it is a case of factitiously creating the figures on the counters today rather like this Government! And a case of 'spend till you drop'…. Ssh, you have the bill to pay some day! Digeorge

6:11pm Thu 26 Dec 13

Mulgrave says...

Caecilius wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.
Do you mean "more pleasant" access across Lendal Bridge?, I don't see how the restriction makes any difference to how the bridge is crossed on foot, stepping off the pavement onto the roadway without the usual precautions or walking along it is ill advised at any time, and could mean the pedestrian is liable for injury or damage caused if a collision occurs involving a cyclist or one of the many authorised motor vehicles.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.[/p][/quote]Do you mean "more pleasant" access across Lendal Bridge?, I don't see how the restriction makes any difference to how the bridge is crossed on foot, stepping off the pavement onto the roadway without the usual precautions or walking along it is ill advised at any time, and could mean the pedestrian is liable for injury or damage caused if a collision occurs involving a cyclist or one of the many authorised motor vehicles. Mulgrave

6:21pm Thu 26 Dec 13

bloodaxe says...

Digeorge wrote:
I guess it is a case of factitiously creating the figures on the counters today rather like this Government!

And a case of 'spend till you drop'….

Ssh, you have the bill to pay some day!
None of this negates the statistical fact that trading in York is up, while nationally it is down. Morality isn't an issue here.
[quote][p][bold]Digeorge[/bold] wrote: I guess it is a case of factitiously creating the figures on the counters today rather like this Government! And a case of 'spend till you drop'…. Ssh, you have the bill to pay some day![/p][/quote]None of this negates the statistical fact that trading in York is up, while nationally it is down. Morality isn't an issue here. bloodaxe

6:29pm Thu 26 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

Caecilius wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.
If you run a business as I do, you work 7 days a week and often over 12 hours a day. Time is precious, why attend a meeting when your thoughts and opinions will be ignored?
From what you said, the vast majority that turned up suggested the bridge closure was negative, what will be done? NOTHING!
Incidentally the local elections in York, less than half the populous turned out so if almost 25% turned up to a meeting that was not going to make a difference, I would say that was an astonishing result!

Next election...vote them out and keep them out for at least a generation.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.[/p][/quote]If you run a business as I do, you work 7 days a week and often over 12 hours a day. Time is precious, why attend a meeting when your thoughts and opinions will be ignored? From what you said, the vast majority that turned up suggested the bridge closure was negative, what will be done? NOTHING! Incidentally the local elections in York, less than half the populous turned out so if almost 25% turned up to a meeting that was not going to make a difference, I would say that was an astonishing result! Next election...vote them out and keep them out for at least a generation. eeoodares

8:07pm Thu 26 Dec 13

ouseswimmer says...

People are borrowing more to have a Wonga Christmas nothing more. As for Lendal Bridge many people thought the restrictions were lifted for Christmas day. How wrong they were sadly.
People are borrowing more to have a Wonga Christmas nothing more. As for Lendal Bridge many people thought the restrictions were lifted for Christmas day. How wrong they were sadly. ouseswimmer

8:23pm Thu 26 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago.
Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street.
But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday.

York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%).

The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/business-25499
711

This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013.

So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.
Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago. Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street. But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday. York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%). The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33. Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-25499 711 This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013. So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst. YOUWILLDOASISAY

8:52pm Thu 26 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago.
Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street.
But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday.

York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%).

The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/business-25499

711

This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013.

So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.
Go on keep marking it down, it doesn't change the facts, the evening press article is a mirror of the BBC's report.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago. Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street. But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday. York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%). The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33. Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-25499 711 This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013. So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.[/p][/quote]Go on keep marking it down, it doesn't change the facts, the evening press article is a mirror of the BBC's report. YOUWILLDOASISAY

9:09pm Thu 26 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago.
Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street.
But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday.

York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%).

The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/business-25499

711

This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013.

So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.
Wow, must have hit a nerve, -6 in less than 5 minutes.

Have a jolly time because I see every -ve as a success.

How's the blood pressure doing….?
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago. Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street. But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday. York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%). The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33. Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-25499 711 This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013. So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.[/p][/quote]Wow, must have hit a nerve, -6 in less than 5 minutes. Have a jolly time because I see every -ve as a success. How's the blood pressure doing….? YOUWILLDOASISAY

9:45pm Thu 26 Dec 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago.
Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street.
But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday.

York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%).

The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk


/news/business-25499


711

This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013.

So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.
Wow, must have hit a nerve, -6 in less than 5 minutes.

Have a jolly time because I see every -ve as a success.

How's the blood pressure doing….?
Nothing like a bit of help in drawing attention to the message.


Cheers.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Footfall figures from research company Springboard show shopper numbers were down 5.7% last week compared with a year ago. Analysts said the bad weather made shopping centres more popular with shoppers than the High Street. But shoppers flocked to indoor shopping centres, which saw a 7.2% jump in numbers for Monday. York experienced almost exactly the same increase as shopping centres against last years footfall figures (2012 = 593,915, 2013 = 636,625 plus 7.19%). The article published by the BBC 23 December 2013 Last updated at 18:33. Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/business-25499 711 This article published 10:34am Thursday 26th December 2013. So York performed as well as a shopping centre, but other reports say NE England, NI & Scotland all experienced increased footfall with decreases seen in areas where the weather was worst.[/p][/quote]Wow, must have hit a nerve, -6 in less than 5 minutes. Have a jolly time because I see every -ve as a success. How's the blood pressure doing….?[/p][/quote]Nothing like a bit of help in drawing attention to the message. Cheers. YOUWILLDOASISAY

2:50am Fri 27 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

GooseTrackLane wrote:
This just cannot be true. You can't drive over Lendal Bridge during the day, so it is physically impossible to access any of the shops in the city centre.

Must must must be lies. This is more clear evidence of a huge CONSPIRACY. The figures are invented. York has become a ghost town.
"This just cannot be true. You can't drive over Lendal Bridge during the day, so it is physically impossible to access any of the shops in the city centre." - Please tell me this statement is tongue in cheek... because if it is not then seriously do not breed!
Just because you cannot drive over ONE of the THREE bridges in the city centre does not mean you cannot access the shops... You could, for example, drive over one of the other two bridges which are still open; or use one of those big vehicles with lots of windows called a BUS, or maybe even walk - although given your post makes a link of "cannot drive = no access" it leads me to believe you likely haven't used your legs properly for some considerable length of time.
[quote][p][bold]GooseTrackLane[/bold] wrote: This just cannot be true. You can't drive over Lendal Bridge during the day, so it is physically impossible to access any of the shops in the city centre. Must must must be lies. This is more clear evidence of a huge CONSPIRACY. The figures are invented. York has become a ghost town.[/p][/quote]"This just cannot be true. You can't drive over Lendal Bridge during the day, so it is physically impossible to access any of the shops in the city centre." - Please tell me this statement is tongue in cheek... because if it is not then seriously do not breed! Just because you cannot drive over ONE of the THREE bridges in the city centre does not mean you cannot access the shops... You could, for example, drive over one of the other two bridges which are still open; or use one of those big vehicles with lots of windows called a BUS, or maybe even walk - although given your post makes a link of "cannot drive = no access" it leads me to believe you likely haven't used your legs properly for some considerable length of time. Magicman!

2:53am Fri 27 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

Caecilius wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.
And this is the thing... you stand around the rail station when one of the East Coast silver bullets rolls in, and a few minutes later there is a big crowd of people wandering towards Lendal Bridge (must be between 100-300 people per train), and a similar story for the Transpennine trains.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]14 city centre traders, out of 18 present at the October meeting of York Retail Forum, demanded that the bridge closure be discontinued immediately because they claimed it was "the major cause" of declining business. As there are "about 80" members, more than three quarters of them were not sufficiently concerned about it even to turn up. When the complainants were given a platform on 'Look North' recently, the chief spokesman for city centre businesses candidly admitted that he was doing as well as ever and had no evidence that it had damaged his trade. Nor, for that matter, had the gentleman who alleged that it was responsible for his shop's poor showing. The city centre is alive with people, many of whom can be seen flocking into York on foot from the railway station: they probably appreciate the easier access across Lendal Bridge.[/p][/quote]And this is the thing... you stand around the rail station when one of the East Coast silver bullets rolls in, and a few minutes later there is a big crowd of people wandering towards Lendal Bridge (must be between 100-300 people per train), and a similar story for the Transpennine trains. Magicman!

8:29am Fri 27 Dec 13

ReginaldBiscuit says...

This is a meaningless story. Footfall is up and by word of 'mouth', so are sales. So what? It's Christmas. Not a word about sales in the other 11 months of the year.

Retailers and Estate Agents desperately try to make things look bright. It's yet another example of distorted statistics and deliberate subterfuge avoiding the real picture. The British government owes a shed load of money - 3rd world division. The British people owe a shed load of money - worst personal debt in the world leading to trillions. Britain is financed on debt. Tax the rich and wealthy companies properly and stop penalising and picking on the poor.
This is a meaningless story. Footfall is up and by word of 'mouth', so are sales. So what? It's Christmas. Not a word about sales in the other 11 months of the year. Retailers and Estate Agents desperately try to make things look bright. It's yet another example of distorted statistics and deliberate subterfuge avoiding the real picture. The British government owes a shed load of money - 3rd world division. The British people owe a shed load of money - worst personal debt in the world leading to trillions. Britain is financed on debt. Tax the rich and wealthy companies properly and stop penalising and picking on the poor. ReginaldBiscuit

9:42am Fri 27 Dec 13

again says...

No doubt huge numbers of drivers who used Lendal Bridge weren't planning to stop in York and only did so in the traffic jams they created.
No doubt huge numbers of drivers who used Lendal Bridge weren't planning to stop in York and only did so in the traffic jams they created. again

12:15pm Fri 27 Dec 13

Lunatic says...

eeoodares wrote:
Lunatic wrote:
So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...
I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Maybe not here. But I follow a couple of York's "business leaders" on Twitter, and the rhetoric from them has been that the closure is damaging and destroying the local economy.

But, they do wax lyrical.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lunatic[/bold] wrote: So much for Lendal Bridge destroying York's economy...[/p][/quote]I do not think that anybody has suggested that the bridge closure has DESTROYED the economy, I think that the argument has been that it is a counter-productive exercise that has alienated our elected representatives, costs thousands of pounds and has been an abject failure in every measure taken. The people who run businesses in the City centre believed that it has DAMAGED the economy, being that it is their business I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.[/p][/quote]Maybe not here. But I follow a couple of York's "business leaders" on Twitter, and the rhetoric from them has been that the closure is damaging and destroying the local economy. But, they do wax lyrical. Lunatic

9:44pm Fri 27 Dec 13

CaroleBaines says...

Proof again that a small group of determined 'anti-democracy' types on these forums are totally unrepresentative of the views of York residents. Lendal Bridge closure is right for York, even if it has not been handled well (fines fiasco).
Sort out the block-commentators, Press. Making a mockery of your website.
Proof again that a small group of determined 'anti-democracy' types on these forums are totally unrepresentative of the views of York residents. Lendal Bridge closure is right for York, even if it has not been handled well (fines fiasco). Sort out the block-commentators, Press. Making a mockery of your website. CaroleBaines

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